It seems that news have come out that a debris field has been discovered with the landing frame and rear cover being discovered at the Ocean floor which implies an Implosion indeed happened.. Was it because the frame was not tested enough times, some stress fracture that got worse over time.. it remains to be seen what exactly happened, they should have video feed from inside the sub recorded, hopefully that will give some answers.
James Cameron talks at length about the likelihood that it imploded at about 3,000 feet and called in some confidential sources to back that up. If that's true, then the coast guard knew that on Monday. He's quite certain of that, but doesn't understand the whole song and dance of keeping up false hopes, or why they didn't announce that immediately. Easy to find here on YT. He speaks about it on a few channels but chose not to talk about it until now.
@@transientdreams I think until visually confirming debris they cant stop the search. Still the noise could have been anything.. but the more I look into this the more Im starting to wonder if they heard some cracking sounds and the vessel stayed intact for a bit of time and they tried to come up. Just cause Cameron himself stated that the bang was heard some time AFTER the communication was lost. Hopefully investigators can uncover if they had released weights.. if they did.. it would mean they knew they were almost certainly about to die
@@TheTanelChannel I agree. But, thinking about what you just said, It trips a sudden thought that if they had the time and enough warning to release the ballast, then that alone might have been shock enough to the sub that caused it all to fall in. He (Stockton)was an arrogant idiot who didn't listen to many warnings, just like the Captain of the Titanic. I'm just sorry he wasn't alone when it happened.
@@TheTanelChannel The "noise'" could easily have been them if they survived long enough. It's a HUGE question at this point. Something made that noise at half-hour intervals on the half hour and the hour. I am utterly perplexed and have no answers. But the fact that either is possible means only one can be exclusionary. Pictures tell the story. But considering they were still almost a mile above the wreck, it makes no sense the debris field would be so conveniently near the Titanic wreck. So much here makes no sense. I respect you opinion, to say the least. Here is a link that another likelihood of this scenario.. ua-cam.com/video/X5CldZRSgIc/v-deo.html
Turns out there were warnings by experts about the safety of the vessel back in 2018 that were ignored. A lawsuit came about involving a former OceanGate Employee, David Lochridge who flagged several safety concerns about the hull. He said that it was "experimental and there wasn't enough testing and that flammable materials were being used inside the hull." He also said that "the carbon fiber tube was at risk of imploding especially after repeated use!" He was fired by Ocean Gate for refusing to send maned trips to the Titanic without more testing. In addition, the Marine Technology Society (MTS) expressed concern about the Titan submersible and planned trips to the Titanic, stating that the "experimental" approach by OceanGate could result in negative outcomes (from minor to Catastrophic)".
This needs to be looked into, im praying that the noises heard by Sonar is actually them still alive because there are a couple of ships on the way that are very close to the site now which have multiple ROV-s that can operate at that depth, including ROV-s putting down cables on the ocean floors.. these may be able to grab hold of the vessel or put a cable trough some opening to bring it back up.
Wow. I also believe carbon fibre itself is conductive electrically. Someone speculated that it must be an electrical problem if the sub didn't auto surface. I guess they use power to release weights... like an air balloon I suppose.
@@Olena.P. that what gets people in those situations. Oh its certified. Certified or not. Such things have a high risk-error margin. Just takes one thing. Yo lights..heating...power...pressure. certified just means more experts and testing followed on it. Prior testing itself could be the stressing matter on a next dive in these situations
In my opinion, as a structural engineer, certified SCUBA diver and private pilot, I'd suggest a failure of the observation window with the body of the frame. The pressure is 380 atmospheric pressures, and any seal failure would result in an intrusion of high pressure water into the sub, and in a fraction of a second it would implode. I think it would effectively shoot the capsule forward violently. If that were the case, it will be difficult to find the remaining parts. This theory was address by a friend of the captain in an interview on BBC, and in fact the captain himself acknowledged that it was a possibility. Entanglement due to seabed currents would also be an option. The fact that it had no hooks for emergency retrieval and it had no transponder in my opinion is inexcusable. Structurally, the interface between the cylinder shape and the spherical ends might pose a metal fatigue failure. This was an experimental sub and it seems to me to be ludicrous to put humans in such a joy ride.
As a former astronaut and former rocket scientist/ nuclear physicist & a bouncer at various strips clubs around the WORLD,it's my opinion that the CATASTROPHIC-IMPLOSION of the titanic submersible was unfortunately, CATASTROPHIC!!! GOD SPEED!!
Just curious if you know the reasoning for the odd shape of the vessel? In my limited knowledge of submarines I always understood a cylinder shape withstood pressure evenly so it was the safest design….also, do you know hoe it was designed to surface?
@@lisanmc4536 actually a sphere is the most stable geometric structure. @clarkscarborough959 isnt it a really bad idea to bolt a metal part onto a carbon structure? i just did a little carbon work and always read you should glue and not bolt, since you destroy structure where you put the bolts in. and isnt a carbon structure a terrible choice of material for a submarine since carbons strenght is traction (pull) and the force applied to a submarine is pressure. so in order to make use of the strenght of carbon the submarine actually needs to compress/deform to make use of the strenght of the material?! while compressing and deformation would probably lead to delamination or weak spots? i mean carbon is great for planes boats, spacecrafts, etc,... but for submarines?
I have been fascinated with Titanic since I was a small boy in the '70's. Naturally, I started to have OceanGate videos in my UA-cam feed. I took one look at the observation window and sensed peril. Though I am not an engineer, and whether the window actually caused this, the danger I perceived has come true. Greetings from Perth, Western Australia.
Great analysis! Also I'm not sure how much a difference it would make but I feel like these types of recreational subs should be bright yellow or orange so it's easier to spot them. The white just blends in so much with the water.
Yeah could be easier to spot but im just shocked this sub has not one single transponder to locate it.. like.. seriously? Makes me very angry. There is about 40hours of air left and banging is heard from the sub...
@@TheTanelChannel Yeah and considering they're paying 250k for it you'd think the safety measures would be better. Can't imagine what they are going through I just hope they are at least at the top of the ocean and not the bottom.
@@jaycarver4886 I know but if they're at the surface their chances of being found/rescued are better. Also if it comes to it I think it'd be better to die with some light rather than in total darkness. Both are horrible scenarios but dying at the bottom of the ocean would be so terrifying.
@@justanaussieguy What's really terrifying is the apparent lack of safety protocols and testing. I would have asked so many unwanted questions that I'm sure they would have banned me from going. Vet everything thoroughly...trust no one implicitly. It's worked pretty well for me so far.
An exploration submarine named Titan has been lost due to not having proper safety because its makers thought it to be unsinkable and nothing could go wrong, the rich men and child in there are dying right next to the sunken ship Titanic, a ship that had thousands die due to not having the proper number of life boats because its makers thought it to be unsinkable, how poetic
Also, their sub is named Titan, a novel that tells the story of the world's largest passenger ship, the Titan, and how it sank after hitting an iceberg. A novel published 14 years before the Titanic sank.
In fairness to the Titanic and the White Star Line the ship did carry the required amount of lifeboats as in 1912 the lifeboat count was determined by gross tonnage of the ship, not the number of people actually on board.
Even if the Titanic had enough lifeboats to accommodate all the passengers and crew they wouldn't have had time enough time to get everyone off the ship so a great deal of people would still die. That's what I think.
I am leaning towards the implosion possibility. Such events have happened before like with the USS Thresher. Based on all the concerns about the hull design, hull testing, hull durability, and viewport strength I think it’s likely, particularly as both forms of communication were cut off together and with no evidence that it has resurfaced like it would normally (unless destroyed or snagged). People are fixated on the undersea noises, but this too has been a distraction in other search missions. Sound carries very well underwater plus there is a lot of metal debris in the area just from the Titanic wreckage. The deep sea is also much noisier than most people realize.
Unless I have misinterpreted articles I have read, an implosion would be instantaneous resulting in death instantly (without warning). in other words, no time to panic, perhaps pain-free. The bottom line is five people entered Titan thinking only of the opportunity to see the Titanic. Now they are deceased.
What I have heard from the navy guys who work on nuclear subs is that they train to go to sleep in situations like this and take turns on banging on the hull. It seems that in a sleeping state you are the most calm and use less oxygen. So at this point im hoping they can extend the oxygen supply past the 96hour mark, enough to get them recovered.
A navigational error may have led to an incident with the wreckage, I am just a layman but having watched James Cameron down there with the Mir submersibles it is clear that knowing where you are in relation to the wreck is crucial. My heart goes out to these men and their loved ones, it is a fate I would wish on nobody.
I gotta watch that documentary now. I searched a little bit and found that Cameron also solo dived at the lowest point on Earth in the Marenas Trench. He seriously should have been consulted, that's a pro.
No. It imploded. Before they even reached Titanic. This reckless and pathologically irresponsible CEO was hell bent on using two different materials to construct the vessel: Something NEVER DONE BEFORE. For a reason. Titanium and carbon fiber…? Dude was an idiot.
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May be it is just me, but I am a pensioner and have done a lot of adventures in my life. I have climbed in the Alps, (Europe), Southern Alps (New Zealand), have climbed all the Munros in Scotland. always ridden powerful motorbikes, have visited over 30 countries in the world, have toured over 20 states in the western US, and worked as a missionary assistant in Papua New Guinea for 6 months, in addition to working once as a caving instructor. But to spend quarter a million pounds to visit a wreck, albeit a legendary wreck, 2 miles down , where over 1000 people died, just does not appeal. My one regret is never to have stood on top of Mount Everest, but I could never have afforded that. But to visit a wreck with over the enormous 6000 psi around you (and I speak as an ex scuba diver), just does not appeal, but then everyone to their own. May God bless their souls.
As an ex scuba diver have you been in the caves? If so I think that's the most frightening thing I've ever seen! So many people have lost their lives by going into the caves! ✌🏼
@@winrosI once worked as a caving instructor taking parties down caves (not show caves). I also have done scuba diving. But never would do cave diving, for me too dangerous. Indeed the caving team, in the outdoor pursuits centre where I worked, none would do cave diving.
Standing on Everest is just as daft as what these idiots are doing. When there are no real challenges or risk from everyday life, we crave it in stupid ways
@@JackHoff-cz3eq They can be gotten around if gross negligence is involved. Reckless disregard for safety. Might be other things as well. And I believe that state laws can influence how much teeth these waivers have. Maybe someone with legal expertise in this area will weigh in?!
What they signed was written by a good lawyer in the case of deaths like here. They knew exactly what they were getting into so if the families try something they shouldn’t have a case. Still. This company may die anyway.
There is no way to bond the carbon fiber external hull to the titanium inner hull in a way that is meaningful at the extreme pressures at the bottom. If a tiny bit of water gets between the outer and inner hull, the ENTIRE pressure bears down upon the inner shell which was not thick enough to withstand the total pressure, more water came in, it gave in, collapsed and imploded. Although I am not an expert in the field, that is my (very sad) opinion, based on physics. Sad.
Absolutely! It is interesting to listen to James Cameron. He knows all about engineering and he has been to the Titanic 30 times. Unfortunately there were so many red flags with this Titan. The carbon fiber, the fact that you are locked in from the outside, and you can't get out. It runs with a video game controller. It was never tested for safety. So tragic!
Hubris, on the part White Star Lines, lead to the tragedy of the "unsinkable" Titanic. The same kind of hubris put the crew of the Titan submersible in extreme danger.
They cheapened everything up. They did not have a submersible robot following the sub. They hired kids out of college instead of experienced submariners who can ask the "what if" questions during the design and construction.
This is first time i have heard of a distress signal!!! Not mentioned anywhere else i have seen . I believe it could have easily become oxygen rich and set off an explosion. This vessel is gone and was gone on day 1. Very foolish trip. Sketchy on so many levels. No transponders reaching surface??? That should not be possible.
OceanGate should have a disaster recovery strategy in place and have rehearsed it based on some common scenarios. I pray they are all found safe and well. 🙏🏻
Yes. Things should always have a plan B. However, seems to be the norm,, they wait for when it’s too late to react! But, I’d like To see them save all the refugees that come from Cuba, etc… let’s rescue those too. Not these Billionaires who are going to see a gravesite they have no business seeing!
The people who made Titanic thought it was unsinkable the best thing in the world and super advanced would never sink kind of seems like this guy thought his submarine was the best in the world he didn't need extra safety features similar to the Titanic not putting on enough lifeboats history repeats itself
@@Syclone90 It's not so much about superstition (so to speak,) as the name is an indication that one could be so arrogant to think he can more or less swim in gasoline, set himself on fire, and *"NOT* be burned."
@@jessicadavis3989 Easily.. god knows how far the current could move it.. but again, some sources say the noises are coming from the vicinity of the wreck site.
Your fat bank account can relatively kill you since you can afford just every entertaining thing including this one.A poor man will never die in this manner.
Even if I had $250k, I’m sorry but ,I’m not going below 🌊 sea level disturbing those lost souls near the titanic. That’s a whole different type of territory down there! 😮
@@freespiritableWhen the rich man SHOULD have asked his housekeeper or yardman or limo driver if they would go. But we know what he probably thinks of those folks. Missed opportunity that he's paying for now. 😊
Exactly what I have been asking.why is there no emergency transponders or beacons..some kind of way to send a signal.I know it's harder underwater but the money involved could surely afford something like that..I pray for these people and hope they are rescued in time.
What i heard their last message was we r going down too fast, we need to slow down. After 8 hours they been reported missing. RIP Prayers to family and to everyone 🙏
A fantastic and informative video. I'm guessing that the vessel is stuck in a net or perhaps in the Titanic wreck, or perhaps a strong current sent it miles away. The fact that is has not ascended shows that there is a serious problem. I agree with the guy speaking in the video in that it is amazing that the vessel doesn't have any backup system or hooks so that it could be pulled up.
One thing that was mentioned earlier on another POD CAST is that they only took one canteen each of water, and what about the need to relieve yourself? What a nightmare. Gives me the chills to this k about it.
Early on in this tragic incident I read that there is a small portable toilet that passengers can use and they put up a privacy curtain for this purpose but apparently passengers are told they must restrict their diets several days in advance of launching in order to decrease the chances of needing to relieve themselves of solid waste which would be a pretty noxious thing to have to deal with in such a small confined area with no air circulation.
You can drink your own urine if needed, it should be enough for the time period. Poop wherever you want, nobody cares at that point, its just how you make it out alive.
Thats all fine mate having these safety measures in place however if youre using a new material in these depths and you are going down 4000 metres, then testing that material at 1300 metres and no further is a recipe for disaster! They keep saying how intelligent these guys are, obviously they couldnt have been that bright when you consider their complete lack of regard for safety.
Literally....they have a robot with arms they are sending down there to look for it? Why not equip a hook to it incase they do get found to pull them back up?
Didn’t seem to be prepared for emergency, like he/they wasn’t expecting anything to go wrong, and that’s mind boggling. Could they have been brave enough to land on the ship?
To answer some of your questions, evidence as of right now is pointing to catastrophic implosion. This was actually one of the most likely outcomes. One must keep in mind that the pressure per square inch acting on the crewed compartment, which is pressurized to sea level, is roughly 6,000 pounds per square inch (or 4.1369e+7 Pascal). The slightest failure of any part of the pressure hull will result in a catastrophic implosive event that would take less than 2 milliseconds to kill everyone inside that pressure hull. The reason that it is difficult to capture location in the deep ocean is that water is a tremendously good barrier to radiation. When you have thousands of feet of water above you, it is impossible to send radio signals through the water, let alone utilize signals being sent from a global positioning satellite. All communication must be done with sound--including data transmissions--unless a submersible is attached to a mothership by tether.
At 8:09 I mentioned the implosion.. and how I think it went. Eighter way though.. I am kinda shocked that these submerisbles that go so deep dont have any sort of cable attatched to them for recovery. What are they afraid a whale or some nets float over Titanic and can jank the cable hard?
@@TheTanelChannel having a tethered submersible is absolutely something that could happen; however, the issue with diving on a large wreck site with a tethered submersible is the tether itself. To get anywhere worthwhile on the wreck you have to get close to a huge underwater steel structure and its corresponding debris... any part of which could snag a large tether and cause damage to the tether, the submersible, or the wreck (which in this case is an UNESCO site).
@@Revolutionarythought I doubt we will see anymore dives to the Titanic if they cant recover the 5 victims.. I hope they wont give up in finding them but it might be way too expensive to start searching for them with the currents maybe playing a part in making it even more difficult to find everyone. In the end I think this is just pure neglect on OceanGate side.. not enough testing. The parts might have been fine for a few dives but I think micro tears might have appeared on vital parts of the craft that finally gave way on this dive.
@@TheTanelChannel I have no doubt that dives to Titanic will continue, especially for archeological and monitoring purposes. We really need to contextualize this incident. OceanGate was operating an experimental submersible that was not certified by any agency or organization as safe to dive at the depth of Titanic (12,500 feet or 3,800 meters), let alone to take passengers to that depth. OceanGate was doing this because it was a for profit company that was trying to make money off of "deep sea tourism," and in an effort to make as much money as possible OceanGate cut many corners. Compare this to the historians, titanic experts, deep sea explorers, and oceanographers who have been taking highly engineered and extremely safe research submersibles to Titanic's wreck for almost 40 years with no fatalities or serious accidents. Hindsight is 20/20 as the saying goes, but I think it is also important to remember that at least two people left OceanGate because they had a problem with the testing and safety of OceanGate's Titan submersible, and in 2018 the Marine Technology Society (a society that represents the established deep diving marine research community), wrote a letter to letter to Stockton Rush and OceanGate expressing serious safety concerns with the OceanGate's submersibles. So the problem was not, and is not, deep sea exploration or diving on Titanic's wreck. Instead the problem was with OceanGate who built a submersible with untested technology as *cheaply* as possible so they could make the most money they could selling their $250,000 tickets to dive on Titanic's wreck.
S.O.S sound at 4km under the sea.. As far I saw, beside cell phones, cams and a video game controller, I dont noticed any hammer to knock on the tinanium fuselage.. I have some doubt. One of the most terrible event I ever seen..seriously I'm stunned..
@@TheTanelChannel they usually drop several and use them in a pattern to triangulate. Even then its not totally exact in 'field conditions'. Its really made to be able to drop depth charges or a torpedo close enough to an enemy submarine to get a kill.
People total lack of science education is the real story here. Any ideas how much 2 miles of cable weighs to hook the sub? It weighs so much the cables own weight, stretch, and wave action can break it. It's way different than a climber's 200ft rope.
in the sea you typically use rope with a natural buoyancy, thus it weights nothing when deployed, also I heard it the original design did have a comms cable attached
In actual fact, a full steel rope/chain isnt necessary, think of it like a ships anchor, the first 0.5%/10 is chain the other 9.5% is rope, the weight of the chain takes if to the bottom of ocean quickly and lays flat along the floor otherwise the rope wont stay down. Likewise. you only need a Hook and small amount of chain to drop into the ocean, the rest can be rope, whether it be a nylon, or other high tensile strength rope. this reduces weight and easily can be tied together to make the length of rope necessary for this rescue operation. again similar to fishing. it only needs to have a small weight to hold the line down in position, the line is a nylon material or something similar, strong enough to hold fish greatly larger than the thickness of the line. so as a conclusion they can easily get 3miles of rope prepared and flown out to that location with a RAF aircraft and dropped into location.
I wouldnt be suprised by this and then they find out oh.. we dont have spares. Still I dont think that happened just because they would have still been able to control the craft via the tablets, specially sending messages back to the surface.
would it be a good idea to have possibly attached a unmanned craft that can be controlled by the submersed vessel that is inoperable? that unmanned craft is then joined together with some sort of wire or cable the purpose of the attached craft is to go up to send a better signal or ping at a more reasonable depth to be located. or even in the event that the sub cannot use or control the unmanned drone it goes into a system protocol to rise itself to a better depth to be found? just thinking of solutions to better help a future problem
Your the best explanation ive see on any u tubes,. I saw one u tube where the person was tightening the bolts on the entrance cover and he was using a very short ratchet wrench with a very large socket. I torque bolts in my profession and my torque wrench is much longer handled
Hey thanks. I dont think anything was wrong with seals because it would have been imploded by this time and they are hearing some bangs coming from somewhere around the wrecksite.. well.. I mean it could have imploded and currents are banging it against the hull of the Titanic I guess.. So scary
May God rest their souls & prayers for the families.. it doesn’t matter how much money they had, who cares if they were “rich & bored” that still doesn’t matter & they didn’t deserve this, although it’s not likely I’m still praying, hoping, & have a little but enough optimism that they still can be rescued.. very sad situation.. again may God bless & rest their souls as well as my aunt who my family & I lost.. very sad sad day 💔
Get this the Navy knew all along there was an ocean anomaly indicating a disaster about the time radio on craft went out but they kept quiet letting all those planes continue continue looking for days
Yes you are right how in 2023 a vessel can lost...it means there is no safety devices installed on it... Company is just earning money by signing the agreement papers
The name of this company should be HEAVEN'S GATE, not OceanGate. Or, maybe WATER GATE. What a joke this company has turned out to be. But, who is laughing now?
No one would even insure this vessel. The CEO was so irresponsible. But it also says a lot about CEO's at a lot of these companies . All they see is their own ideas they are willing to sink the whole company for their own pride. Smh
@@stevesalkas9128 As I like to say; if you cut off enough corners from a square, then keep on going enough, it becomes a circle. And so help you, it's gonna roll over easily.
Stockton was married to the Great great grandaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus. Ida refused to leave her husband, gave her coat to the maid, and died with Isidor.
Plz raise the ticket price for this trip to Titanic Wreck 250 k for the trip plus 750 k as security deposit for rescue and funeral expense if u dont come back..how ever 750k refunded if u come back alive😮
Who would darn get in a sub capsule sitting on a cold floor not to mention all the bad publicity it had for $250,thousand dollars just glad it was quick rip to the sub crew prayers for the families.
Note to self.....learn Jiu-jitsu before going on submarine....if any problems present themselves...everyone except the pilot is getting triangle chokeholds.
I agree that the surface ship should have been in contact with Coast Guard and at least Notify them what’s happening out there. I don’t understand why there were no communication between the sub and the surface ship , I do understand that it is so extremely deep but given today’s technology and it wasn’t even halfway down and communication stopped , I guess they were just thinking that it was something to do with the radio and they were just waiting for it to surface and it still hasn’t. I’m trying to figure out how they can navigate to the shipwreck without gps or something so that they know what the coordinates are up top. I hope they get found very very soon
This Tragic Event Could Have Been Avoided if they got Expert Opinion on the Vessel, They used Carbon Fibre on the Sub, and Carbon Fibre is not strong enough for the pressure of 1400 Feet, This is why in These types of Dives the Vessel are Steel or Titanium because these Metals are strong Enough for the Pressures
My experience with game controllers they can break or wear out if the thing is controlled by that .should had an extra controller we usually do just in case 1 goes down
I think they are hung up on something. Once found O2 hose needs to be taken down by drone to the vessel and put o2 back into it until it can be cut loose. Finding is key. There must be a air connect line on the outside
I fish in no motor lake in a canoe with recreational scuba diving. They r tethered to red floats so u don't set a hook in them! Yes deeper but deployable? Raising a flare?
The last transmission would have been about the time to power up and slow the descent. Then the distress call 15 minutes later if it was one. Probably hit the bottom to hard or there was no power or the currents so strong pushed away.
So what? They wanted to go down, they wanted to take the risk to go in a dangerous environment. Let them. Its up to them. Hope they come up safe again and can be rescued. If not...well, they are not that important.
And 'Hooks" will certainly get u caught on to something buddy..that banging is most likely the popping n cracking of the sub due to the time under extreme pressure
I believe number one thing is they did not conform to regulations and tests that should have been performed for a submersible and that is so tragic because it cost the lives of five😢
The experimental part noone is talking about is that he basically 3D printed the hull out of carbon fiber then glued the titanium hatch to it. This was not your typical all-metal vessel.
Do they have footage of this exact crew of BILLIONAIRES being bolted in??? I see the other trips where you see the crew being bolted in... Is there footage of THESE people in particular being bolted in?
It seems that news have come out that a debris field has been discovered with the landing frame and rear cover being discovered at the Ocean floor which implies an Implosion indeed happened..
Was it because the frame was not tested enough times, some stress fracture that got worse over time.. it remains to be seen what exactly happened, they should have video feed from inside the sub recorded, hopefully that will give some answers.
James Cameron talks at length about the likelihood that it imploded at about 3,000 feet and called in some confidential sources to back that up. If that's true, then the coast guard knew that on Monday. He's quite certain of that, but doesn't understand the whole song and dance of keeping up false hopes, or why they didn't announce that immediately. Easy to find here on YT. He speaks about it on a few channels but chose not to talk about it until now.
@@transientdreams I think until visually confirming debris they cant stop the search. Still the noise could have been anything.. but the more I look into this the more Im starting to wonder if they heard some cracking sounds and the vessel stayed intact for a bit of time and they tried to come up. Just cause Cameron himself stated that the bang was heard some time AFTER the communication was lost. Hopefully investigators can uncover if they had released weights.. if they did.. it would mean they knew they were almost certainly about to die
@@TheTanelChannel I agree. But, thinking about what you just said, It trips a sudden thought that if they had the time and enough warning to release the ballast, then that alone might have been shock enough to the sub that caused it all to fall in. He (Stockton)was an arrogant idiot who didn't listen to many warnings, just like the Captain of the Titanic. I'm just sorry he wasn't alone when it happened.
They knew when it happened! This whole sub thing was/ is a distraction from the real news.
@@TheTanelChannel The "noise'" could easily have been them if they survived long enough. It's a HUGE question at this point. Something made that noise at half-hour intervals on the half hour and the hour. I am utterly perplexed and have no answers. But the fact that either is possible means only one can be exclusionary. Pictures tell the story. But considering they were still almost a mile above the wreck, it makes no sense the debris field would be so conveniently near the Titanic wreck. So much here makes no sense. I respect you opinion, to say the least. Here is a link that another likelihood of this scenario..
ua-cam.com/video/X5CldZRSgIc/v-deo.html
Turns out there were warnings by experts about the safety of the vessel back in 2018 that were ignored. A lawsuit came about involving a former OceanGate Employee, David Lochridge who flagged several safety concerns about the hull. He said that it was "experimental and there wasn't enough testing and that flammable materials were being used inside the hull." He also said that "the carbon fiber tube was at risk of imploding especially after repeated use!" He was fired by Ocean Gate for refusing to send maned trips to the Titanic without more testing. In addition, the Marine Technology Society (MTS) expressed concern about the Titan submersible and planned trips to the Titanic, stating that the "experimental" approach by OceanGate could result in negative outcomes (from minor to Catastrophic)".
This needs to be looked into, im praying that the noises heard by Sonar is actually them still alive because there are a couple of ships on the way that are very close to the site now which have multiple ROV-s that can operate at that depth, including ROV-s putting down cables on the ocean floors.. these may be able to grab hold of the vessel or put a cable trough some opening to bring it back up.
Wow. I also believe carbon fibre itself is conductive electrically. Someone speculated that it must be an electrical problem if the sub didn't auto surface. I guess they use power to release weights... like an air balloon I suppose.
The warnings? There are so few of these subs, aren't they all technically prototypes.
@@deeespinal9666 from what I've heard from interviews, there are some other submersibles able to go that deep, but all are actually certified.
@@Olena.P. that what gets people in those situations. Oh its certified. Certified or not. Such things have a high risk-error margin. Just takes one thing. Yo lights..heating...power...pressure. certified just means more experts and testing followed on it. Prior testing itself could be the stressing matter on a next dive in these situations
In my opinion, as a structural engineer, certified SCUBA diver and private pilot, I'd suggest a failure of the observation window with the body of the frame. The pressure is 380 atmospheric pressures, and any seal failure would result in an intrusion of high pressure water into the sub, and in a fraction of a second it would implode. I think it would effectively shoot the capsule forward violently. If that were the case, it will be difficult to find the remaining parts. This theory was address by a friend of the captain in an interview on BBC, and in fact the captain himself acknowledged that it was a possibility. Entanglement due to seabed currents would also be an option. The fact that it had no hooks for emergency retrieval and it had no transponder in my opinion is inexcusable. Structurally, the interface between the cylinder shape and the spherical ends might pose a metal fatigue failure. This was an experimental sub and it seems to me to be ludicrous to put humans in such a joy ride.
As a former astronaut and former rocket scientist/ nuclear physicist & a bouncer at various strips clubs around the WORLD,it's my opinion that the CATASTROPHIC-IMPLOSION of the titanic submersible was unfortunately, CATASTROPHIC!!! GOD SPEED!!
Just curious if you know the reasoning for the odd shape of the vessel? In my limited knowledge of submarines I always understood a cylinder shape withstood pressure evenly so it was the safest design….also, do you know hoe it was designed to surface?
@@Nick-k4f 😂
@@lisanmc4536 actually a sphere is the most stable geometric structure.
@clarkscarborough959
isnt it a really bad idea to bolt a metal part onto a carbon structure?
i just did a little carbon work and always read you should glue and not bolt, since you destroy structure where you put the bolts in.
and isnt a carbon structure a terrible choice of material for a submarine since carbons strenght is traction (pull) and the force applied to a submarine is pressure.
so in order to make use of the strenght of carbon the submarine actually needs to compress/deform to make use of the strenght of the material?!
while compressing and deformation would probably lead to delamination or weak spots?
i mean carbon is great for planes boats, spacecrafts, etc,... but for submarines?
I have been fascinated with Titanic since I was a small boy in the '70's. Naturally, I started to have OceanGate videos in my UA-cam feed. I took one look at the observation window and sensed peril. Though I am not an engineer, and whether the window actually caused this, the danger I perceived has come true. Greetings from Perth, Western Australia.
Great analysis! Also I'm not sure how much a difference it would make but I feel like these types of recreational subs should be bright yellow or orange so it's easier to spot them. The white just blends in so much with the water.
Yeah could be easier to spot but im just shocked this sub has not one single transponder to locate it.. like.. seriously? Makes me very angry.
There is about 40hours of air left and banging is heard from the sub...
@@TheTanelChannel Yeah and considering they're paying 250k for it you'd think the safety measures would be better. Can't imagine what they are going through I just hope they are at least at the top of the ocean and not the bottom.
@@justanaussieguyWhy? They can't get out on their own.
@@jaycarver4886 I know but if they're at the surface their chances of being found/rescued are better. Also if it comes to it I think it'd be better to die with some light rather than in total darkness. Both are horrible scenarios but dying at the bottom of the ocean would be so terrifying.
@@justanaussieguy What's really terrifying is the apparent lack of safety protocols and testing. I would have asked so many unwanted questions that I'm sure they would have banned me from going. Vet everything thoroughly...trust no one implicitly. It's worked pretty well for me so far.
An exploration submarine named Titan has been lost due to not having proper safety because its makers thought it to be unsinkable and nothing could go wrong, the rich men and child in there are dying right next to the sunken ship Titanic, a ship that had thousands die due to not having the proper number of life boats because its makers thought it to be unsinkable, how poetic
Omg there’s a child on board? 😢😢
@@RaccoonNation a 19 year old boy, compared to everyone else, a child
Also, their sub is named Titan, a novel that tells the story of the world's largest passenger ship, the Titan, and how it sank after hitting an iceberg. A novel published 14 years before the Titanic sank.
In fairness to the Titanic and the White Star Line the ship did carry the required amount of lifeboats as in 1912 the lifeboat count was determined by gross tonnage of the ship, not the number of people actually on board.
Even if the Titanic had enough lifeboats to accommodate all the passengers and crew they wouldn't have had time enough time to get everyone off the ship so a great deal of people would still die.
That's what I think.
I am leaning towards the implosion possibility. Such events have happened before like with the USS Thresher. Based on all the concerns about the hull design, hull testing, hull durability, and viewport strength I think it’s likely, particularly as both forms of communication were cut off together and with no evidence that it has resurfaced like it would normally (unless destroyed or snagged). People are fixated on the undersea noises, but this too has been a distraction in other search missions. Sound carries very well underwater plus there is a lot of metal debris in the area just from the Titanic wreckage. The deep sea is also much noisier than most people realize.
Unless I have misinterpreted articles I have read, an implosion would be instantaneous resulting in death instantly (without warning). in other words, no time to panic, perhaps pain-free. The bottom line is five people entered Titan thinking only of the opportunity to see the Titanic. Now they are deceased.
What I have heard from the navy guys who work on nuclear subs is that they train to go to sleep in situations like this and take turns on banging on the hull.
It seems that in a sleeping state you are the most calm and use less oxygen.
So at this point im hoping they can extend the oxygen supply past the 96hour mark, enough to get them recovered.
yes i do too but i'm afraid it may be another 40 or so ours before the soonest possible effort of rescue...
I saw a story an hour ago that a Canadian Plane detected under water sounds. hmmm...
@@MercedesMan Sounds like the sub floats only the weights holding it down have not released. Piss poor design.
GOOD LUCKY SLEEPING WHEN. YOUR TERRIFIED!
@@jollydata4299Exactly. Drugs
w/b/n.
A navigational error may have led to an incident with the wreckage, I am just a layman but having watched James Cameron down there with the Mir submersibles it is clear that knowing where you are in relation to the wreck is crucial. My heart goes out to these men and their loved ones, it is a fate I would wish on nobody.
I gotta watch that documentary now. I searched a little bit and found that Cameron also solo dived at the lowest point on Earth in the Marenas Trench.
He seriously should have been consulted, that's a pro.
Amen...The Rich think they are invincible!!! Very sad!! RIP. God bless all
I agree amd seeing out one side is a disaster waiting to happen. That billionair should of paid cameron to take him down not this quack.
No. It imploded. Before they even reached Titanic. This reckless and pathologically irresponsible CEO was hell bent on using two different materials to construct the vessel: Something NEVER DONE BEFORE. For a reason. Titanium and carbon fiber…? Dude was an idiot.
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Thank you
I absolutely agree....!!!! With all the technology available on the market.....mind blowing.
I wonder is everyone down there beating the crap out of Stockton Rush
We don´t know what happened yet, lets not jump to conclusions.
@ beewalk- That’s exactly what we were saying!!!!
Crossed my mind... or maybe someone is having a violent panick attack😬
May be it is just me, but I am a pensioner and have done a lot of adventures in my life. I have climbed in the Alps, (Europe), Southern Alps (New Zealand), have climbed all the Munros in Scotland. always ridden powerful motorbikes, have visited over 30 countries in the world, have toured over 20 states in the western US, and worked as a missionary assistant in Papua New Guinea for 6 months, in addition to working once as a caving instructor. But to spend quarter a million pounds to visit a wreck, albeit a legendary wreck, 2 miles down , where over 1000 people died, just does not appeal. My one regret is never to have stood on top of Mount Everest, but I could never have afforded that. But to visit a wreck with over the enormous 6000 psi around you (and I speak as an ex scuba diver), just does not appeal, but then everyone to their own. May God bless their souls.
As an ex scuba diver have you been in the caves? If so I think that's the most frightening thing I've ever seen! So many people have lost their lives by going into the caves! ✌🏼
@@winrosI once worked as a caving instructor taking parties down caves (not show caves). I also have done scuba diving. But never would do cave diving, for me too dangerous. Indeed the caving team, in the outdoor pursuits centre where I worked, none would do cave diving.
Standing on Everest is just as daft as what these idiots are doing. When there are no real challenges or risk from everyday life, we crave it in stupid ways
None of what you boast about appeals to me. Waste of time.
Liability waivers aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Ask any good lawyer.
How is that?
@@JackHoff-cz3eq They can be gotten around if gross negligence is involved. Reckless disregard for safety. Might be other things as well. And I believe that state laws can influence how much teeth these waivers have. Maybe someone with legal expertise in this area will weigh in?!
Especially if your dead!😂
What they signed was written by a good lawyer in the case of deaths like here. They knew exactly what they were getting into so if the families try something they shouldn’t have a case. Still. This company may die anyway.
@jaycarver4886 well that has to be proven. And since it would be impossible too I doubt anything will happen
There is no way to bond the carbon fiber external hull to the titanium inner hull in a way that is meaningful at the extreme pressures at the bottom. If a tiny bit of water gets between the outer and inner hull, the ENTIRE pressure bears down upon the inner shell which was not thick enough to withstand the total pressure, more water came in, it gave in, collapsed and imploded. Although I am not an expert in the field, that is my (very sad) opinion, based on physics. Sad.
Absolutely! It is interesting to listen to James Cameron. He knows all about engineering and he has been to the Titanic 30 times. Unfortunately there were so many red flags with this Titan. The carbon fiber, the fact that you are locked in from the outside, and you can't get out. It runs with a video game controller. It was never tested for safety. So tragic!
Hubris, on the part White Star Lines, lead to the tragedy of the "unsinkable" Titanic. The same kind of hubris put the crew of the Titan submersible in extreme danger.
They cheapened everything up. They did not have a submersible robot following the sub. They hired kids out of college instead of experienced submariners who can ask the "what if" questions during the design and construction.
This is first time i have heard of a distress signal!!! Not mentioned anywhere else i have seen . I believe it could have easily become oxygen rich and set off an explosion. This vessel is gone and was gone on day 1. Very foolish trip. Sketchy on so many levels. No transponders reaching surface??? That should not be possible.
I love the titanic just as much as these people but even if I had the money I would never go down there but I hope they find these people
OceanGate should have a disaster recovery strategy in place and have rehearsed it based on some common scenarios. I pray they are all found safe and well. 🙏🏻
Yes. Things should always have a plan B. However, seems to be the norm,, they wait for when it’s too late to react! But, I’d like
To see them save all the refugees that come from Cuba, etc… let’s rescue those too. Not these Billionaires who are going to see a gravesite they have no business seeing!
Lmao they all died
Another stupid thing was to paint it white in a sea that could potentially be full of white caps.
Why not paint it hunter orange?
Yep this is an odd one
Never thought of that. A great question.
In earlier itterations of the sub, it was orange like a Kubotu tractor. I saw a pic of it earlier, maybe they changed it for asthetics, for marketing.
Glow in Dark would have been better
Thats what i said earlier ina convo with a friend..why not paint it neon orange so its easy to spot...idiot ceo made it white impossible too see....
Seen multiple interviews of the owner Stockton Rush now. Wouldn't allow him to drive me to the store down the street.
The way that the we thing was built looked as dodgy as all get out as well.
The people who made Titanic thought it was unsinkable the best thing in the world and super advanced would never sink kind of seems like this guy thought his submarine was the best in the world he didn't need extra safety features similar to the Titanic not putting on enough lifeboats history repeats itself
Just for superstitions I would not have named the submarine Titan
@@Syclone90 It's like naming a hot air ballon after Lead Zepplin.
@@Syclone90 It's not so much about superstition (so to speak,) as the name is an indication that one could be so arrogant to think he can more or less swim in gasoline, set himself on fire, and *"NOT* be burned."
Not enough discussion about the currents. Good content.
I thought about that too! Could a current pick it!?
@@jessicadavis3989 Easily.. god knows how far the current could move it.. but again, some sources say the noises are coming from the vicinity of the wreck site.
Your fat bank account can relatively kill you since you can afford just every entertaining thing including this one.A poor man will never die in this manner.
Great job, very thorough. Being shot into space and losing communication is no different and very risky business. Praying they are found.
Even if I had $250k, I’m sorry but ,I’m not going below 🌊 sea level disturbing those lost souls near the titanic. That’s a whole different type of territory down there! 😮
Well, they had billions, 250k is like 2.50EUR for them.. it is an interesting adventure.. but you just dont think about the dangers when signing up
@@TheTanelChannel your absolutely right about that! 👍🏽
Amen to that
@@TheTanelChannel why I wait to see photo when they would of got up to show public. Guess billions don't really help
Exploration is exciting. But the risks are terrifying when things go wrong.
This wasn't exploration for the sake of knowledge, this was touristing exploration
@@freespiritableWhen the rich man SHOULD have asked his housekeeper or yardman or limo driver if they would go. But we know what he probably thinks of those folks. Missed opportunity that he's paying for now. 😊
@@freespiritable Death by misadventure.
There is a book that at the time was fiction about an ocean liner sinking. It was titled the Titan.
Interesting 🤔
Titan IS the name of Saturn's greatest moon .
@@chiasanzes9770 and the name of a substandard submersable
It took over 50 years to find the titanic and it had a general ideal where it sunk. Good luck finding this in four days.
No chance unfortunately
Exactly what I have been asking.why is there no emergency transponders or beacons..some kind of way to send a signal.I know it's harder underwater but the money involved could surely afford something like that..I pray for these people and hope they are rescued in time.
Seen on another report they woildnt work in the ocean anyway only acoustic signals not sure on how true that is
What i heard their last message was
we r going down too fast, we need to slow down.
After 8 hours they been reported missing.
RIP
Prayers to family and to everyone 🙏
Where did you hear this?? This would help explain why it imploded..
@@TheTanelChannel i been watching lots of updates i try to get it back. Thanks for reply
A fantastic and informative video. I'm guessing that the vessel is stuck in a net or perhaps in the Titanic wreck, or perhaps a strong current sent it miles away. The fact that is has not ascended shows that there is a serious problem. I agree with the guy speaking in the video in that it is amazing that the vessel doesn't have any backup system or hooks so that it could be pulled up.
One thing that was mentioned earlier on another POD CAST is that they only took one canteen each of water, and what about the need to relieve yourself? What a nightmare. Gives me the chills to this k about it.
Gives sh*tting your pants new meaning.
Early on in this tragic incident I read that there is a small portable toilet that passengers can use and they put up a privacy curtain for this purpose but apparently passengers are told they must restrict their diets several days in advance of launching in order to decrease the chances of needing to relieve themselves of solid waste which would be a pretty noxious thing to have to deal with in such a small confined area with no air circulation.
@@watrgrl2And they play loud music, too. (No additional charge. 😊) Details about the facilities are on the website!
Thanks for the info.
You can drink your own urine if needed, it should be enough for the time period. Poop wherever you want, nobody cares at that point, its just how you make it out alive.
Plus, they have no heat and at that depth it would be quite chilly.
1889 book called The Titan predictions of the Titanic came true I 1912. Then the sub called The Titan
Jesus will save them at the last moment for sure he's there
@george- yes. I did have that thought. I could see Jesus being there and taking them home to their real destination………
Thats all fine mate having these safety measures in place however if youre using a new material in these depths and you are going down 4000 metres, then testing that material at 1300 metres and no further is a recipe for disaster! They keep saying how intelligent these guys are, obviously they couldnt have been that bright when you consider their complete lack of regard for safety.
It’s inconceivable and reckless that there is no beacon or transponder on the sub.
This 100%!!!!
Great presentation.
The hook / cable idea is almost so obvious and so relevant it’s hard to understand why it was not employed.
Literally....they have a robot with arms they are sending down there to look for it? Why not equip a hook to it incase they do get found to pull them back up?
A cable that long would rip under it's own weight because it has no support.
Next time use your hundreds of thousands to feed the hungry, clothe the poor or house the homeless.
You'll live longer
Says a lot about safety when the owner of the company has to drive the submarine and fired employees who questioned safety and construction of it
Yeah cutting corners to say money using 2 dollar parts not 50 dollars 💵
The CEO was interviewed and mentioned things can go wrong but still went ahead with it. When a rich man’s pride gets in the way of common sense.
Didn’t seem to be prepared for emergency, like he/they wasn’t expecting anything to go wrong, and that’s mind boggling. Could they have been brave enough to land on the ship?
To answer some of your questions, evidence as of right now is pointing to catastrophic implosion. This was actually one of the most likely outcomes. One must keep in mind that the pressure per square inch acting on the crewed compartment, which is pressurized to sea level, is roughly 6,000 pounds per square inch (or 4.1369e+7 Pascal). The slightest failure of any part of the pressure hull will result in a catastrophic implosive event that would take less than 2 milliseconds to kill everyone inside that pressure hull.
The reason that it is difficult to capture location in the deep ocean is that water is a tremendously good barrier to radiation. When you have thousands of feet of water above you, it is impossible to send radio signals through the water, let alone utilize signals being sent from a global positioning satellite. All communication must be done with sound--including data transmissions--unless a submersible is attached to a mothership by tether.
At 8:09 I mentioned the implosion.. and how I think it went. Eighter way though.. I am kinda shocked that these submerisbles that go so deep dont have any sort of cable attatched to them for recovery. What are they afraid a whale or some nets float over Titanic and can jank the cable hard?
@@TheTanelChannel having a tethered submersible is absolutely something that could happen; however, the issue with diving on a large wreck site with a tethered submersible is the tether itself.
To get anywhere worthwhile on the wreck you have to get close to a huge underwater steel structure and its corresponding debris... any part of which could snag a large tether and cause damage to the tether, the submersible, or the wreck (which in this case is an UNESCO site).
@@Revolutionarythought I doubt we will see anymore dives to the Titanic if they cant recover the 5 victims.. I hope they wont give up in finding them but it might be way too expensive to start searching for them with the currents maybe playing a part in making it even more difficult to find everyone.
In the end I think this is just pure neglect on OceanGate side.. not enough testing. The parts might have been fine for a few dives but I think micro tears might have appeared on vital parts of the craft that finally gave way on this dive.
@@TheTanelChannel I have no doubt that dives to Titanic will continue, especially for archeological and monitoring purposes.
We really need to contextualize this incident. OceanGate was operating an experimental submersible that was not certified by any agency or organization as safe to dive at the depth of Titanic (12,500 feet or 3,800 meters), let alone to take passengers to that depth. OceanGate was doing this because it was a for profit company that was trying to make money off of "deep sea tourism," and in an effort to make as much money as possible OceanGate cut many corners.
Compare this to the historians, titanic experts, deep sea explorers, and oceanographers who have been taking highly engineered and extremely safe research submersibles to Titanic's wreck for almost 40 years with no fatalities or serious accidents.
Hindsight is 20/20 as the saying goes, but I think it is also important to remember that at least two people left OceanGate because they had a problem with the testing and safety of OceanGate's Titan submersible, and in 2018 the Marine Technology Society (a society that represents the established deep diving marine research community), wrote a letter to letter to Stockton Rush and OceanGate expressing serious safety concerns with the OceanGate's submersibles.
So the problem was not, and is not, deep sea exploration or diving on Titanic's wreck. Instead the problem was with OceanGate who built a submersible with untested technology as *cheaply* as possible so they could make the most money they could selling their $250,000 tickets to dive on Titanic's wreck.
I can’t even go there and try imagining what they are mentally going through……😩😩😩
Yeah its horrible..
S.O.S sound at 4km under the sea.. As far I saw, beside cell phones, cams and a video game controller, I dont noticed any hammer to knock on the tinanium fuselage.. I have some doubt. One of the most terrible event I ever seen..seriously I'm stunned..
It seems to me that they didn't take any precautions at all 😳
Camper's World and GameBoy controls!? Isn't that kind of like going to Yellowstone so you can pet the bears?
nope
terrible analogy
try again
Its not about oxygen, if they don't have enough CO2 scrubbers and it sounds like they don't, they were dead the first day.
I love how to express a backup device. Love your concerns.
THE SOUND WAS NOT RECEIVED BY THE AIRCRAFT ITSELF, BUT THROUGH A TRANSMITTER FLOATING ON THE SURFACE
Yes thats right, sorry im not an expert on sonar. But would they know how deep did that sound come from?
@@TheTanelChannel they usually drop several and use them in a pattern to triangulate. Even then its not totally exact in 'field conditions'. Its really made to be able to drop depth charges or a torpedo close enough to an enemy submarine to get a kill.
People total lack of science education is the real story here. Any ideas how much 2 miles of cable weighs to hook the sub? It weighs so much the cables own weight, stretch, and wave action can break it. It's way different than a climber's 200ft rope.
in the sea you typically use rope with a natural buoyancy, thus it weights nothing when deployed, also I heard it the original design did have a comms cable attached
In actual fact, a full steel rope/chain isnt necessary, think of it like a ships anchor, the first 0.5%/10 is chain the other 9.5% is rope, the weight of the chain takes if to the bottom of ocean quickly and lays flat along the floor otherwise the rope wont stay down. Likewise. you only need a Hook and small amount of chain to drop into the ocean, the rest can be rope, whether it be a nylon, or other high tensile strength rope. this reduces weight and easily can be tied together to make the length of rope necessary for this rescue operation. again similar to fishing. it only needs to have a small weight to hold the line down in position, the line is a nylon material or something similar, strong enough to hold fish greatly larger than the thickness of the line. so as a conclusion they can easily get 3miles of rope prepared and flown out to that location with a RAF aircraft and dropped into location.
@@bornwild5165 old hemp rope was good for a few ton anchor back in the day !
Jeeez. The batteries on the PlayStation controller coulda died even… 🤨
😮😮😂
When you're the one responsible for packing plenty of spare PS controller batteries and you realise 3000 metres below you forgot.
@@nadinewhite993 Sub 2.0 should include a USB charger.
I wouldnt be suprised by this and then they find out oh.. we dont have spares.
Still I dont think that happened just because they would have still been able to control the craft via the tablets, specially sending messages back to the surface.
@@TheTanelChannel well at least there’s one backup. With a system like this redundancy is crucial!
RICH MEN THOUGHT THE TITANIC COULDN'T SINK /NOT ENOUGH LIFEBOATS!! SUBMERSIBLE CUT CORNERS TOO! BOTH ARE TOGETHER!! POETIC ...
would it be a good idea to have possibly attached a unmanned craft that can be controlled by the submersed vessel that is inoperable? that unmanned craft is then joined together with some sort of wire or cable the purpose of the attached craft is to go up to send a better signal or ping at a more reasonable depth to be located. or even in the event that the sub cannot use or control the unmanned drone it goes into a system protocol to rise itself to a better depth to be found? just thinking of solutions to better help a future problem
Your the best explanation ive see on any u tubes,. I saw one u tube where the person was tightening the bolts on the entrance cover and he was using a very short ratchet wrench with a very large socket. I torque bolts in my profession and my torque wrench is much longer handled
Hey thanks. I dont think anything was wrong with seals because it would have been imploded by this time and they are hearing some bangs coming from somewhere around the wrecksite.. well.. I mean it could have imploded and currents are banging it against the hull of the Titanic I guess.. So scary
May God rest their souls & prayers for the families.. it doesn’t matter how much money they had, who cares if they were “rich & bored” that still doesn’t matter & they didn’t deserve this, although it’s not likely I’m still praying, hoping, & have a little but enough optimism that they still can be rescued.. very sad situation.. again may God bless & rest their souls as well as my aunt who my family & I lost.. very sad sad day 💔
Get this the Navy knew all along there was an ocean anomaly indicating a disaster about the time radio on craft went out but they kept quiet letting all those planes continue continue looking for days
Yes you are right how in 2023 a vessel can lost...it means there is no safety devices installed on it... Company is just earning money by signing the agreement papers
The name of this company should be HEAVEN'S GATE, not OceanGate. Or, maybe WATER GATE. What a joke this company has turned out to be. But, who is laughing now?
Thresher was lost april 10 1963. 129 men died. I remember!! RIP
I can't believe they waited so many HOWERS it's notify the Coast guard !
LIFE RISKING COFFIN!!
No one would even insure this vessel. The CEO was so irresponsible. But it also says a lot about CEO's at a lot of these companies . All they see is their own ideas they are willing to sink the whole company for their own pride. Smh
Cutting corners to save few coins
@@stevesalkas9128 As I like to say; if you cut off enough corners from a square, then keep on going enough, it becomes a circle. And so help you, it's gonna roll over easily.
Stockton was married to the Great great grandaughter of Isidor and Ida Straus. Ida refused to leave her husband, gave her coat to the maid, and died with Isidor.
You sign the same release to go parasailing or rent a jetski. Point being the waver is worthless.
the ship imploded on itself due to extreme water pressure .... rumor has it they ben gone since sunday the day they went on there decent
Plz raise the ticket price for this trip to Titanic Wreck
250 k for the trip plus 750 k as security deposit for rescue and funeral expense if u dont come back..how ever 750k refunded if u come back alive😮
Weeeeel so carbon fiber is not predictable material under extremely high pressure? I'd say I'm in shock. But I'm not
Who would darn get in a sub capsule sitting on a cold floor not to mention all the bad publicity it had for $250,thousand dollars just glad it was quick rip to the sub crew prayers for the families.
I heard they cutting money here and there using $2 dollars parts instead of $50 parts is that why the other guy pulled out and wanted his money back
Great video thanks!
Thank you for watching!
How did they become Billionaires I wonder? They put themselves in this position. I hope this ends well but this was a stupid personal choice.
@Luke- Are you saying that rich people are SMART??? 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
All could have been handed to them
Sad!! THEY PAID 250K TO DIE!
Unknowingly
they are probably choking each other down there to conserve air.
Note to self.....learn Jiu-jitsu before going on submarine....if any problems present themselves...everyone except the pilot is getting triangle chokeholds.
Control your risk. Reduce it, preferably.
You would think that this death trap would at the least have a hoist cable connecting it to the surface ship so it could be retrieved ??
A cable 2/12 miles long I don’t think so
yes it should’ve had it
A cable that long would snap under its own weight.
I agree that the surface ship should have been in contact with Coast Guard and at least Notify them what’s happening out there. I don’t understand why there were no communication between the sub and the surface ship , I do understand that it is so extremely deep but given today’s technology and it wasn’t even halfway down and communication stopped , I guess they were just thinking that it was something to do with the radio and they were just waiting for it to surface and it still hasn’t. I’m trying to figure out how they can navigate to the shipwreck without gps or something so that they know what the coordinates are up top. I hope they get found very very soon
Oceangate has added debris now to the wreckage field and 5 lives.
Ironically, the same hubris that told people that the Titanic was unsinkable too yrs ago was the same hubris that built and launched the submersible.
something Suspicious About This Story Another Huge Distraction For The World 🌍🤠🇨🇦
This Tragic Event Could Have Been Avoided if they got Expert Opinion on the Vessel, They used Carbon Fibre on the Sub, and Carbon Fibre is not strong enough for the pressure of 1400 Feet, This is why in These types of Dives the Vessel are Steel or Titanium because these Metals are strong Enough for the Pressures
My experience with game controllers they can break or wear out if the thing is controlled by that .should had an extra controller we usually do just in case 1 goes down
That CEO was an idiot and seemed to cheap it on everything. You couldn't have paid me to get on board that piece of junk.
I think they are hung up on something. Once found O2 hose needs to be taken down by drone to the vessel and put o2 back into it until it can be cut loose. Finding is key. There must be a air connect line on the outside
your video is very well produced
Awesome video mate. Brilliant
I fish in no motor lake in a canoe with recreational scuba diving. They r tethered to red floats so u don't set a hook in them! Yes deeper but deployable? Raising a flare?
@Gary- right?!!! I’m shocked that they didn’t consider this!! Why no gps or sonar???
The last transmission would have been about the time to power up and slow the descent. Then the distress call 15 minutes later if it was one. Probably hit the bottom to hard or there was no power or the currents so strong pushed away.
This whole thing leaves me speechless.....
So what? They wanted to go down, they wanted to take the risk to go in a dangerous environment. Let them. Its up to them. Hope they come up safe again and can be rescued. If not...well, they are not that important.
The owner was quite proud of piecing this vessel together with no regulations as well as going woke and refusing to hire experienced people.
To save few bucks
I'm thinking the families could sue the company because I guarantee they didn't sign off their rights sue if their family member was killed.
People should respect the place of the dead why disturb the place you dive just for fun it should serve a lesson let them rest 8n peac
And 'Hooks" will certainly get u caught on to something buddy..that banging is most likely the popping n cracking of the sub due to the time under extreme pressure
I believe number one thing is they did not conform to regulations and tests that should have been performed for a submersible and that is so tragic because it cost the lives of five😢
Would there be a winch powerful enough to pull it up with water pressure of close to 4000 pounds per square inch at that depth?
Im sure there are but can they get to the spot fast enough...
The experimental part noone is talking about is that he basically 3D printed the hull out of carbon fiber then glued the titanium hatch to it.
This was not your typical all-metal vessel.
They are fish food now.
That mini was crushed like a beer can . The noises they heard on sonar was their bones being picked clean
Do they have footage of this exact crew of BILLIONAIRES being bolted in??? I see the other trips where you see the crew being bolted in... Is there footage of THESE people in particular being bolted in?
Pretty sure there is its just not shared with the public yet
@@TheTanelChannel They showed all the other voyages live...hmmm.. ok, ty
@@spencearoo1 Wait, really? Where did they show them live?
Great video 👍🏽 thanks . Im wishing the best for this crew, but realistically it doesn't look good 😕