(219)Classes Of The Kelvin Universe (Part 3- Constitution Mark II and Excelsior Classes)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're continuing our "Kelvin Kristmas Event," by taking a look at the Constitution Mark II and Excelsior Classes of the Kelvin Universe, Enjoy!
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Great lore episode. It’s refreshing to have lore explored that we’ll never see realized, nor adapted in Film, nor on television.
Thank you :) Much obliged~
Very Well said.
I’d love to see the kelvin version of the “well-loved” miranda and oberth classes
Now I have made both actually, but not sure if/ when Ill make the videos for them... This had been a "labor of love" project that I ran with, making wayyyyy too many designs LOL But here you can check out the Oberth Class I made on my "X-Twitter" here twitter.com/TAS_UA-cam/status/1729147677148135450
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComicsthat kelvin oberth looks way better than prime oberth
Absolutely love how you're showing the development of the Kelvin universe, it's really well thought-out. Also, I may prefer your Excelsior design to the prime timeline one.
the kelvin excelsior looks beautiful yet deadly, the connie 2 is great. Thanks for reminding us how good alot of this content is when some actual love is put behind it and made by someone who knows the series. Anyway seeing the romulans basically went silent and came out with a ship on par with the federation in the oringal timeline, it wouldnt surprise me if they started hunting for the borg tech sooner in this timeline, because well the federation ships are the results of late 24th century borg and romulan tech.
Thank you, and I wont spoil it for you, as to where Im going with this ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics ooh your content is too good to ask for the answer now
Great Lore and Cool Ship Designs!
Glad you like them! :)
I like the Kelvin Universe movies. This series is great story telling.
All of your Kelvin time-line ship"s are exceptional, beautiful, and the lore well conceived. WELL DONE👍🖖🙏😇!
Thank you so much :)
I'm stuck and on the edge of my seat at the extremely high-quality content you keep on delivering with this new series. It's amazing how you can deliver such interesting takes on the story!!
Thank you so much, that means a lot :)
Great episode! Always looking forward to see the Enterprise-A!
Thank you! :)
exactly what the Kelvin universe needs and deserves, more love and lore, a great video as always
I couldnt agree more :)
I knew the Repulse Hull would be a good Possibility but I didnt expect it would look THAT good! Outstandingly well done!
Thank you! :)
Loving these episodes,,fresh new takes but in the kelvin timeline. Always liked the kelvin films and especially beyond. That film is a gem,,a fresh story idea that i think worked well. . The excelsior looked real good from side on and underneath,,not sure about from above for some reason. Enterprise always looks dam good. Keep up the awesome work 🖖🖖🖖👌👍
Thank you very much!
Love how you tied i
the alpha canon stuff into this one! Great work!
Thank you very much! :)
Astounded that you somehow made the Kelvin universe more coherent than the prime timeline, especially with Praxis - always felt that the original 'somehow, Praxis exploded' was a bit forced. Please expand more on the Tri-Kelvin timeline!
High praise indeed, thank you :)
As always, much appreciated!
Thank you :)
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed in every detail way shape and form on this format and subject matter provided and very informatively explained on the Constitution Class MK 2 and that of the Newer Excelsior Class starship's indeed guys, A job very nicely well done in every way Sir!,👌.
I love the Excelsior design
Thank you so much :) :)
Your excelsior design looks awesome I noticed that the nacelles look a little bit of the ambassador class at the upper back of the nacelles keep up the good job live long and prosper@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics
I LOVE that Excelsior class ship.
Thank you :)
WOW Awesome! Models of the Constitution Mark II and Excelsior Classes and a Awesome video
Many thanks Dom! :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics No Problem
Your comments mean a lot :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Thank you Friend
If I were Paramount I would hire you immediately as „lore master“! 🤗👍
Very well done. These videos are the defining examples of the Kelvin timeline. As fans we applaud you and your friend for this outstanding presentation.
🖖live long and prosper
Absolutely delighted to see more Kelvin Timeline content ((:
Thank you, that makes me happy :)
I’ve always loved the design of the Constitution Mark II. I want them to make another Kelvin movie, in part, just so we can see more of it, including its new bridge.
Well apparently they're working on one, so we'll see ;)
Its a shame that the Kelvin timeline was cancelled. Some people like me liked it.
Well it wasn't really cancelled, as apparently there is a 4th film STILL in the works... As to if it will ever materialize, well maybe, videos like this will help! :)
I love your kelvin universe Excelsior class. I'd love to see what you could do with a future kelvin universe what would the Galaxy class, Defiant class, intrepid class and sovereign class look like I think not only would it be a fun and interesting challenge it would be a fun video to see I've always wondered what those ships would look like in the Kelvin Universe
It’s a real shame that we can’t get the Kelvin 1701-A for Star Trek Online. She is a very beautiful ship
Still LOTS of time ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Hopefully soon, I really like the kelvin connie mark 2
That Excelsior is frakking BAD ASS!! You guys nailed it! Fantastic Video and most defiantly Nerd Approved!!
Awwwwwww thank you!
I've always loved the Enterprise-A shown at the end of Star Trek Beyond. While I still won't accept the official length but I will admire the beauty. I have a 3D printed model of the Enterprise-A and it's my pride of my models. A much more improvement over the original revamped version.
For the Excelsior I really like your take on it. It's very interesting and fitting for the Kelvin universe. You and your friend did a good job on it. Especially the narrative you created.
LOL whats wrong with its official size?
And Thank you, just wait for the next 2 parts ;) Some of the best writing I've ever done!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics For me personally for the official sizes of the Kelvin Universe ships I just am having a hard time believing that their first Enterprise is bigger than a Galaxy and Sovereign class.
Again that's on me and me alone. As I stated before the original size for the Kelvin Enterprise was originally going to be just a little bit bigger than the original Connie Refit size. But because JJ Abrams wanted that Brewery for part of Engineering and the shuttle bay arrival scene ILM had to upsize the entire ship to the ridiculous size it is.
If you resize the ship to match it to the size of the windows and docking ports for the Connie Refit then you see where I meant that's originally meant to be just a little bigger than the Connie Refit.
Oh I know all about the size discrepancy, however, the official size IS the only size that makes sense... I still dont get though why you have such an issue with it being that big... After all, the technology existed in the 23rd Century to make ships as big as they wanted...
👍🏾👍🏾 for the Excelsior!
Thanks!
I have not admit I was 50/50 on this version of the A, but I think i've come to appreciate it a little more. And your take on the excelsior is definitely interesting though I'd probably extend the first part of the secondary hull more. Either way good work as usual and I look fwd to what's coming next.
I love this series of videos, keep it up!
Thanks, will do! :)
Impressive Excelsior model
Thank you :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics since the timeline is accelerating in terms of shipbuilding, I'm curious to see where it goes. In particular, I hope to see your take on a Kelvin universe Defiant since that is one of my favorite ships.
Brilliant video 👍😊🤩😎
Thanks 😀
Wow the number of phaser emitters on that Excelsior is impressive. I like the design you came up with for the kelvin timeline Excelsior, it's the ship I was most looking forward to
Thank you very much!
I like the version of Excelsior because it looks like a natural progression post-Kelvin universe creation. Like the people who designed it came along with their similar visual aesthetics but then had this other technology to incorporate.
Love the Excelsior!!!!
Thank you so much :)
Imagine getting first contacted by that absolute menacing excelsior class
Awesome the excelsior is always a beauty and im glad you included her in the video can't wait for more
Glad you liked it! And more to come :)
Love the NEW lore here as IMHO The Kelvin reality won't be covered anytime soon from those that decide at paramount!
I like how this saga is going! BUT, other than how the Romulans react... Where is the Borg?
Thank you! And the Borg? Coming... ;)
PERFECT
THANKS
The Kelvin timeline version of the Excelsior-class could be featured in the 4th & final film that is currently in development along with more of the Kelvin Enterprise-A.
Excellent job for both designs! Also, when you're describing the Klingon history part, you seem to be indicating that "NuTrek" is an alternate universe spun off from the "Kelvin Timeline" instead of the "Prime" (Roddenberry/Berman Era) Timeline, which given the NUMEROUS canon inconsistencies that we've seen from "NuTrek", makes PERFECT sense to me. Again, excellent job!
Not at all... We've all been told, time and time again, by the only people who CAN tell us, that all "NuTrek" is Prime Timeline, and so it is... However, if that is what you got out of this video, then Im okay with that ;)
The Enterprise A is my favorite ship from the Kelvin Universe. I’m so sad Eaglemoss didn’t produce it prior to going under.
Being able to play with it for this video, I came to really appreciate it!
I like it as well. The Kelvin Excelsior Class is not bad either. You wonder what a Galaxy and Intetpid class would look like?
Amazing!
Thank you :)
a Klingon federation alliance in the Kelvin timeline would severely hamper any romulan plans far earlier than in the main time line😊
;)
Although I never hated the Kelvin ships, they always felt more 'style over substance' and didn't have the class of the originals. The Excelsior looks nice and fits into that timeline. The Klingon and Romulan lore will be interesting. Nice video.
Thank you :) And to each their own :)
Seriously, if you have the scripts to these you could do them like a set, like Mere Anarchy was done as. The story is amazing and a great what if.
Thank you :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Absolutely!
The Excelsior is one of my favorite ships and this version is just gorgeous, love the rough edges, hope this version have more luck that the original tho
Glad you like it! :)
I think a new, yet familiar enemy should be introduced to the Kelvin Timeline (Universe) to push the Federation, Klingon and Romulan Empires into a treaty to help work together and fight off: the BORG.
Can we have the next one now pls
LOL
really like the lore and ships so far, but wheres the Miranda class lol
LOL where indeed ;) :P
Nice
I’m curious as to how the Cardassians would be in this Kelvin Universe since the specifics of when Starfleet actually made contact with them are rather hazy. Would they meet the Federation early enough for the Enterprise crew to meet them in their primes and their business with Bajor? Have Deep Space Nine be established much earlier than in the Prime Universe under a different group of Starfleet personnel?
Please tell me the Kelvin Ambassador will resemble the Probart version? ;)
Great work Tri. Thanks so much.
I wonder what the Ambassador and Galaxy classes would look like
I love the Kelvin version of the Excelsior class! But not a fan of the mark II constitution class
I'm preparing a odyssey kelvin beam and disco fighter's the new great expermint
I just wish the pylons would be flipped upside down. Doesn't make much sense to me having the engines attached at such a narrow point.
Not a huge fan of the Constitution II, personally think that the first two designs were better. The Excelsior on the other hand is great.
in my head canon, the first Kelvin timeline Excelsior class was built from the remains of the USS Vengeance, and would have shared its over all profile, the major differences being, all the negative spaces being filled in, and most (if not all) of the odd angular hull segments being smoothed out, it would also sport a brighter hull plating (same as the Constitution mk 2) and newer nacelles (cross between classic excelsior style and vengeance's nacelles) it would be captained by Captain Styles, before he became head of the excelsior project, and command of the ship was handed over to recently promoted Captain Sulu. the Excelsior NX-2000 and her sister ships would be instrumental in Starfleets fight against the Borg Collective, which had entered federation space earlier than they would have due to Romulan engineers accidently reactivating dormant Borg technology found in wreckage from the Narada. (note: my fan canon does not align with any beta canon sources like the comics, or Star Trek Fleet Command, which both depict separate renditions of a premature Borg invasion of the 23rd century)
We know that in the Kelvin timeline that Praxis already was damaged or went through a partial explosion as we can see the moon and debrie near the Klingon Homeworld. the fact that Qronos had cities or sections of the planet as uninhabitable does indicate that at the time of Star Trek Into Darkness, they had already suffered the event or a partial event damaging the homeworld, and just continued to push on. Its possible that if they ever do a 4th movie it will deal with the Klingons wanting to work out a peace option with the Federation out of sheer desperation as the resources to save the world just isn't enough and the Empire is under a civil war, that is threatening to spill over into Federation Territory and the Empire is willing to have the Federation either try to help them quell the rebellion peacefully or by force.
We would get a good introduction of Klingon Tech and more importantly maybe introduce one side that we haven't seen in force yet.
The Romulan Star Empire I mean come on, After all the stuff that happened due to a Romulan that went Capt Ahab and destroyed the Vulcan Homeworld you would think the Romulans would have been biting at the bit to get access to Federation Tech and be terrified that the Feds have access to technology they themselves would be woefully behind.
Have them be orchastrating the klingon civil war and hoping it could kill two birds with one stone.
Getting into Discovery era Kelvin, hope to see the Kelvin Crossfield
I have made one actually, but it wont be a part of this series!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Aw
How many Star Trek Universes are there now? Is it just the original one with Shatner, Nimoy and so on, with the other having Chris Pine, or is there a third? I kinda lost track.
The Kelvin Universe is the one with the Chris Pine movies, correct?
Well the Multiverse has an infinite amount of universes :P And yes, the Kelvin Universe is the Chris Pine movies!~
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Ahhh ok, got it. Thanks for answering!
The Kelvin timeline Enterprise-A still has the round engines instead of the refit long square nacelles? Just wondering.
Yes, as that is canon, see Star Trek Beyond at the end of the film...
Will you consider doing a Kelvin universe version of the D-7 and maybe what the Romulins were passing off as a Warbird at that time?
Maybe in the future, but not as a part of this series!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics With the Federation significantly upping their game, one would think the Klingons and especially the Talshiar would be gathering intelligence, making counter moves.
Making out the dorsal and warp pylons as "structural weak points" on the Enterprise has always struck me as drastically misunderstanding the technology in that world. It's very well established that the weapons of Star Trek make short work of unshielded starships, regardless of the shape. Because of the firepower the ships in Trek pack, it really makes no difference if a phaser/photon torpedo hits the thinnest section of the ship, or the thickest. In Wrath of Kahn we see the Reliant target the most "protected" part of the unshielded Enterprise, main engineering, and knock it offline with a single phaser volley. In Undiscovered Country we see a torpedo from a tiny Bird of Prey (remember, these ships are miniscule next to a ship the size of the Enterprise) punch a hole directly through the Enterpise A's saucer once the shields are weakened.
The elegant design of the Constitution class is not a "flaw" that needs to be "corrected". It's a feature of the tech level of the setting.
Sorry, you're incorrect... A) Engineering is not any more shielded than any other part of the ship. B) Torpedoes on the bird of prey are the SAME size as Torpedoes on the Enterprise! Both those FACTS make your point moot. You want to like the Enterprises design, despite certain obvious flaws an weaknesses, that's your choice, it's what the rest of us do. but don't make things up to support that personal opinion!
Is there anyway we can get a time skip and get a Kelvin Galaxy Class?
It's coming, be patient!
Really sad that the Kelvin timeline is effectively over with the canning of the 4th movie
I generally really like the MKII redesign, but I think I would love the MKII Constitution more if not for that awkward overhang and lip at the back end of the saucer
The 4th movie hasn't been canned, Paramount is currently working on it... Google Search it!
Don’t forget the Uss aegis
I would love to make a video on the Aegis, however to do that, requires a 3D Model that I don't have... If you'd like to become a Patreon Member of the Channel to contribute to said "missing" models you can do that here; www.patreon.com/TAStudios
I wonder if the Klingons in the Kelvin Timeline even have cloaking devices? The Klingons first acquired cloaking technology from the Romulans after the launch of the Constitution class in the Prime Timeline. But in this Kelvin reality, the Klingons were attacked by the Nirada right before the first Constitution class ship launched. Would this attack greatly add to the Klingon’s mistrust of the Romulans, thus preventing a temporary alliance that would see the Klingons getting cloaking technology? And without simple cloaking, let alone advanced cloaking, could the Klingons ever build a ship capable of disrupting peace talks with the Federation?
A lost opportunity is seeing TLE ships and TNG ships in the Kelvin design... Would Starfleet even go toward the Galaxy Class with their more turbulent timeline? Would it be more of a warship? Kelvin Starfleet is much more militaristic, so how would those ships logocslly be designed? Especially if everything is moving fast enough for a 26 year gap where things happened sooner than the Prime timeline...
Define "more turbulent timeline," as I see it, its no more turbulent then the Prime Timeline...
IMO, far too premature for something like the Excelsior class. The original run of Kelvin Connie's were still capital ships in the mid 23rd century, as they were less than 5 years old in ST:Beyond, let alone an uprated MK2 version.
The Excelsior prototype was billed to be a significant step up from previous ship designs, this would have taken much field experience, time & resource for such a ship to come into fruition.
Well, you cant please everyone, Im just glad the majority disagrees with you ;)
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Hmm I wasn't asking to be pleased, in fact the video was/is enjoyable for the purpose it serves, but you are being a bit salty over a bit of harmless observation.
You say you are glad the 'majority' disagrees with me? The majority of the population are not into Star Trek at all and think it is for nerds ... perhaps you are in the wrong genre if you thrive on popularism ...
Sure you were asking, otherwise why comment at all lol... And being matter of fact is only "salty" to those who have no real defense sich as yourself... Read the room "dude," One person not agreeing, with the rest loving it, IS the majority, whether your ego likes it or not! And also, Star Trek is not considered only for nerds lol that hasn't been the case for a long time now, so get your head out of your a$$, youll be able to see better! Cya!
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It is nice you show theses stars ships but it is only one thing they are not real ships NX-01 or any of Enterprises are not real it's not like we can't not get In to them and fly so way keep on showing anyway pictures of them.
Ohhhhh really, the TV show is NOT real? Oh My God, you have cleared up SOOOOOOOOOOOO much for all of us Star Trek fans... Thank you so much Captain Obvious, for your idiotic comment! LOL Get lost troll! (Banned for Nonsense, no one here is wasting anymore time with you! Cya!)
I'd love the -A so much more if it weren't for those pylons. I just can't take it seriously. Great vid though!