Solar is the obvious next step after getting an EV. Tesla is smart for pushing solar now that there are hundreds of thousands of Tesla owners who are ready for the next thing.
The next thing is solar on the roof of the Tesla to act as a range extender or even to power the car as SunPowers outdoor roof 5' X 3.5' panles are 400 watts.
I would like to express a word of caution on the Tesla brand of solar, there systems are what we call a tier 3 system, it’s going to end up costing more in the long run then just buying a tier 1 solar system, due to 10/12 year warranty’s on very expensive parts.
About 12 years ago my husband installed solar panels on our house. We live in Hawaii, electricity is very expensive, we used to pay $600.00 to $650.00 a month. We also have net metering. We make more power than we use. So our electric bill is about $19.00 a month, that is the minimum to be connected to the net. I bought a model 3 almost 2 years ago and only charge it at home. So far we are still paying the minimum. my old car used premium fuel, and my monthly gas bill used to be about $350.00. I don't understand all the tech, but I think it's been the best investment we made.Love your videos i'm still not used to auto pilot, but your videos help.Thank You
@@DirtyTesla I was really on the fence about getting them because they really kill the ROI long term... But after days of number crunching, I talked myself into it because my loan payment with Powerwalls would only be about $30 more than my average electric bill has been for the last year.
@@DirtyTesla Yep that was another reason I wanted to just pull the trigger now. Talked to a rep and when purchased with solar, Tesla drops the price a bit directly, and they also qualify for the tax credit. Purchasing later on without solar means they don't qualify and you pay Tesla the full price instead of the bundle discount. Ends up being ~$6k now vs ~$11k after.
Wow! Through my installer it's more expensive, but the same either buying during install or after. And they will still qualify for the credit... Somehow 😂
You're energy company has a really cool app. I always thought that was your inverters app or something. But didn't know solar edge to look like that. FPLs is trash lol.
In SD our EV Time Of Use plan makes it beneficial to send the energy back during day and charge M3 at night. It also gives some ROI to the power walls as we run off the batteries during the peak rates. It sounds like your electricity is much cheaper than ours.
We've had solar since last July, although DTE wouldn't let us activate it until late September after their "blessing." It's been awesome. We used to have electric bills consistently between $250-300/month, and even topped $300 on a number of occasions. Our last few bills have been between $40 and $55. My Model 3 is set up on a dedicated meter so it technically can't pull from the solar system (directly) but since my panels often push power out to the grid, the Tesla is likely consuming those sun-fired amperes.
Could you expand on the "dedicated meter" for your Tesla?? I have an EV myself, but I don't think I have any space in my breaker box for a 240v install of a charger...Thanks!
@@douglashall3227 You will have to get a sub panel installed for the EV plug. We just got one installed for our EV. Thank got we didn't have to upgrade our main panel as that would have cost a lot. One thing I tell everyone is before you go buy a EV, get a 240 installed 1st at home, know what's it going to cost.
I got solar a little over a month ago...it. is. awesome!!!!!! I charge mid day now just so I can drive on sunshine. We have net metering in Illinois so it doesn't matter financially when you charge, but I want my own solar going in the battery and not grid power over night.
Well done video demonstration. Wish I had your App. Installing a solar system is a good move for most homeowners. Our solar was installed one year ago (northern Illinois). It's half the size of yours (6.825 kW), but produces all the energy we need (note: we use natural gas for heating). With net metering I export as much energy as I can to the grid during the day when demand and wholesale electric rates are high, and pull energy from the grid at night when demand and rates are low (to charge my Model 3 and air condition the house). BTW, last year's 30% federal tax credit was reduced to 26% this year, and will drop to 22% in 2021. Anyone contemplating doing solar should do so while federal and possible state incentives are still in place.
That's great. Yeah our rates are more expensive 11am-7pm M-F and cheaper all other times. I'm thinking the tax credit will be extended... But we will see.
We charge our car completely off grid, no power line coming in. We wait around 8:00am on a sunny day for the battery voltage to increase a bit and start charging our model 3. Around 9:30 am the panels get full sun and the battery voltage on my house bank increases then I'll set the car to 12-14 amps taking about 3kW from my inverter and leaving some for the well pump etc.. on a good day we can charge about 140km of range ... we don't want to draw off our batteries without the sun on the panels.. this way we can go from 93% SOC to 100%SOC daily. All "free" Our system is saddly not Tesla's. 20x 270watt panels = 5400w 24x 2v1450amp/hr @ 20hrs = 69.600kWh of capacity. Definitely want powerwalls instead. But they are too costly if you only look at capacity.
I live off-grid in a solar powered house I built myself singlehandedly. Finally figured out how to charge my model 3 long range from the sun. I have four 300 watt solar panel gets full sun all day. I have a Growatt inverter which has an 80 amp MPPT charge controller built-in. I Have configured panels serial/parallel for 24 volt output. Growatt is split phase so it provides 240 volt output.Then I have four BattleBorn batteries. Get 28 miles per hour. $1250 for panels, $750 for Growatt inverter, $3000 for batteries, misc cables fuses $250, total $5,250. Actually anticipating charging my cybertruk next year.
This is very good information. Taking notes on doing a solar setup in the future. I live in Texas and with the recent power outages after the polar vortex, not relying on electric companies is crucial.
Another great video. Solar FTW! #1 thing to do before solar is reduce your energy consumption. Water heater and HVAC are almost always the biggest consumers, they can be upgraded to hybrid/heat pump water heater and Geo for HVAC. Use LED lights.
@@DirtyTesla Smart. I have Geo and solar as well. I have noticed my electric water heater is the hog. I will get a heat pump based unit next year, they pay for themselves pretty quickly when you do the math. 1.5kw vs 5-6kw!
Can you tell us how many solar panels you needed just for the Model 3 and what kind of battery bank you got? Maybe some kind of spec of your system would be helpful.
Here is how I charge my Tesla I live off-grid in a solar powered house I built myself singlehandedly. Finally figured out how to charge my model 3 long range from the sun. I have four 300 watt solar panel gets full sun all day. I have a Growatt inverter which has an 80 amp MPPT charge controller built-in. I Have configured panels serial/parallel for 24 volt output. Growatt is split phase so it provides 240 volt output.Then I have four BattleBorn batteries. Get 28 miles per hour. $1250 for panels, $750 for Growatt inverter, $3000 for batteries, misc cables fuses $250, total $5,250. Actually anticipating charging my cybertruk next year.
wow you can even see the transient inrush spike of the dryer motor before it levels off. I wonder why the power company wants such high temporal resolution and consequent data bulk.
The app is a free download, but to get this level of detail you get another piece of equipment that pairs wirelessly and you pay $1/month after a 6 month free trial
Awesome Chris! Looks like a solid system and will serve you and the family extremely well over its lifetime! Great that your Model 3 is charging free from the sun. Out of curiosity, are you on a single rate plan or does it change based on the time of day? What is your feed in rate compared to your consumption rate? Loved the video as always :)
Enjoyed your video. I love charging from solar. We have a 15.4 kW system with microinverters and a Tesla Powerwall 2. We have a 5-bedroom house, a plug in hybrid (BMW330e) and Model 3 Performance. We have had the system for 6 months and have net exported 2 MWh. I usually try to charge when it is sunny, but there are always times when a cloud passes over and it will be then charging from the filthy grid here in Victoria, Australia (mostly brown coal). I am about to get a Zappi 2 3-phase charger delivered. You can set this to different modes, including eco+ which will only charge from solar, adjustingt the charge rate according to the amount of solar power available.
Hi Michael, hope all's going well. We've recently ordered a model y in Victoria, Australia. How are you finding the Zappi? We only have a 4.5kw solar system, all north facing, I'm wondering if we'll need something like the Zappa as I'm only wanting to charge the model y with our solar, if possible.
Hi, if you are keen to maximise charging from solar, you will need a smart charger (saves you running out to switch off the charger every time a cloud passes across the sun). I have been very happy with the Zappi and leave on eco+, which maximises charging from solar, over the sunnier months. This time of year, I just fast charge because there is not enough left over to charge the car after using solar for the house + Powerwall battery.
I like that your in a northern state and you can get something; but that is mid July; can you do something like this report each quarter and see how this solar generation does in mid fall, spring and winter? If you are getting 28 mile per hour; then what does that mean on a sunny day? 100 miles? 120? so In winter with clouds is it more like 10 or 20 or 30? Would a typical day with your system over the year be 30 or 50 or 60 miles in a days charging? This is what I'd like to know to understand more about the potential where I am.
There is of you live in the UK. The Zappi chargers are linked into your solar system and you can set it to only charge the car at the amount of energy being produced from the solar system. ua-cam.com/video/0EtegQfZQRw/v-deo.html
@@DirtyTesla I think the Growatt Thor charger can provide automatic control so that any excess solar is used to charge an EV. And if no sun, the charger knows if to use the grid or battery. or not. And maybe one day Telsa will allow this via their charger!
Michiganders... today I learned that's what people from Michigan are called. I'm from the west coast so anything not west coast I've never really heard, except New Yorkers.
We have been waiting 2 years for a smart meter we are paying 16 pence kwh to charge car ,a 14 kw solar would cost£36,000 and no insensitive help from government .
I’m getting my solar installed next Tuesday! We are going to start seeing a lot more solar videos with the new Tesla Solar referral program. 10 referrals gets you a free power wall!
I gonna setup high efficient solar panel about 3 kWh s total. To charge my Kona Ev for about 2kwh from standard plug while i m doing my job. 8*2 = 16 kw a is enough for my daily drive Man it’s just little bit crazy to me. I can’t imagine ten years ago. Dude you have your personal gas station or something like that. Great video great job thanks.
got quoted a system in my area for $72k after incentive $42k average electric bill is $400 a month , the company wants to install 51 panels, Want to know what you think, im new to the solar panel stuff , want more info before making purchase. Also went on tesla with your referral and the solar they offer me is $17k for the whole thing. Why such a big gap in price? Just a bit confuse, hopefully you can steer me in the right direction
I'd love to help you out. Can you send me an email at dirtyteslayt@gmail.com with all the specs? It'll be easier to have a conversation this way. In short, best way to compare systems is price per watt (total price divided by wattage of system). Tesla is usually the best price.
Is there any ideas you have for me in a situation where I rent my home and cannot install solar? I only use a 120 volt NEMA 5-20 at 16 amps to charge normally. I want something I can set outside on a nice day and slow charge my model 3 instead of using the grid, and not provide power for my whole home.
You can definitely rig up a small solar system that's dedicated just to your car. I don't know all the details, but you'd want a system that can do about 2kW or so. Then you need all the stuff to connect the panels to the car like an inverter, mppt, and at least some small battery.
Use 4 24 volt 250 watt panels in parallel to a 60 amp MPPT charge controller to charge two 12 volt batteries (Use Battle Borne) and from the battery a 3000 watt inverter. Use correct wire and fuses.
Question: Michigan resident here. Would a Tesla Powerwall (if available) have made financial sense in any realistic scenario? Of course you get backup capability, but with that aside, it seems like net metering makes the Powerwall not make much financial sense. Where I live in MI heat and most appliances are gas, so there's less advantage from solar unless you spend upfront to convert everything to electric.
Because dte pays less for your solar generation than you pay them to use the grid, the powerwall does have a small financial benefit... But I would never buy it with finances being the goal like I did the solar. I'd buy it for when the power goes out. We almost lost power in this storm today!
Make sure you understand your local utility policies on net metering. Some places are required to buy all you make, so your system can be a money maker. Some only give you a credit for what you give them over what you use. So, if every day your make/use chart shows you send back 1 kw over what you use you are selling or giving them electricity. They give you a 1 kw per day credit. If the credit is not used in one year you gave them free power.
I'm in Michigan, have 7.5kw of solar on my roof and a 2500 sqft home and two plug-in vehicles (Pacifica hybrid and model 3) and my electric bill was zero for three months this year. I also have a half dozen computers that are always on. Assertions that you can't get enough from solar is kinda silly. BTW, is that your solar? You should reach out to me - there are some problems that you should know about.
Very cool! I love videos on solar systems and such. Question: have you looked into getting a smart EV charger? That way you could automatically have the system charge the Tesla when there is excess production. Also, have you considered adding a battery to the system? I know it is still a somewhat new install, but I see batteries as being "the next step" after solar.
For me the smart EV charger is not something I'm considering. I guess i could check the price but eh I'm happy with this set up. And yes I definitely want a battery! Hopefully we'll have a Tesla powerwall eventually but they're expensive. Although if I get 10 Tesla solar referrals we'll get a powerwall free
Financially a powerwall or most solar batteries are not worth it. But we lose power pretty often so from that perspective I'd love it. Solar was definitely a smart financial decision. Powerwall would be more for convenience/luxury
Nice video. Illinois completely sucks with practically zero incentives from a state perspectice for EVs and solar. Did you consider a battery for storing energy? Or is your electric company giving you comparable rates between consuming from/to the grid?
I'd love a battery, but they're a bit expensive. We only have to pay transfer fees for electricity coming in, so it works out to about 6 cents per kwh for electricity we use that's not from solar.
Is it possible for your solar panels to “charge a power wall” so that you can charge your car off of it overnight? Say like maybe just once or twice a week?
Glad to see your net metering rates are so good. Do you have AC and use it...we are down south and that's our offset during the day with our Solar Setup. We only generate 8.5kW therefore I charge the car in the morning(10ish) before the AC begins to cool down again. We pretty much will burn through 30-35 kWh during non-sun times just for the AC(and other things the wife runs) :( But our daytime is basically free if not negative. I like your setup and envious of your buyback...thanks for the video.
We have geothermal heating and cooling which is on a seperate meter. We could run it on solar, but the rate is so cheap solar doesn't financially make sense. It usually costs ~$90/month in the summer to cool the house.
I’m confused why you got a 11kw inverter, does that mean that you’re essentially losing out on 3kw of power just because the inverter isn’t powerful enough!
Kinda. But being at the peak does not last very long. The cost of a bigger inverter was not worth it basically. And by having a 14kw system instead of an 11kw system, I still produce more energy throughout the day
@@DirtyTesla I think this is managed by the company that managed your solar installation. For me it's Power Home Solar. If you set up your own system, you have access to the full suite of what SolarEdge offers (I've seen screen shots online). I wanted to get the companion app for my Apple Watch, but since the companion app wasn't an official SolarEdge app, I had to get a SolarEdge API key. I called SolarEdge, and they said I had to contact Power Home Solar. I did, and they hooked me up with the API key. They also unlocked a few additional functions for me.
@@msawyer91 I'll have to ask my installer. I did have them enable the per panel view for me which was really nice. I'll try to find all the features online and request everything I want in 1 email. Thanks.
What type of setup would you recommend for charging your car if you were out camping for 2-3 days and wanted to charge your car to get some extra miles?
Dirty Tesla .. That’s a Monster System. That’s more than twice the size of mime. A PowerWall or two will be a great add on in the future. See if they will redeem your referrals toward them.
Always enjoy and learn from your videos. I have had my Model Y for a month. I need to build up some history for my electrical use, and then I will investigate adding solar. I have an unrelated question, I got a software update for the car today, and it is the third update with the exact change release notes. Is this typical? I assume it means there were only minor updates to improve existing features, but no new noteworthy features. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed. The Model 3 definitely pushed us to solar. Yep, that's pretty normal for your updates. It means Tesla just did some bug fixes or minot changes usually.
Curious to know if your electric rate is on time of use (or TOU) and if so, what rate and time. My electric provider is SCE (Southern California Edison) and I currently have Time of use EV prime, which means that super off-peak happens between 8 am to 4 pm, exactly when the sun is shining and on-peak happens between 4 pm to 9 pm, which is mostly at night. Because they credit you based off from the time of use, it makes no sense to back feed to the grid during the cheap off-peak hour and then consumes when on-peak start and sun is not shining. Imagine back-feeding 3 hours worth of energy for the equivalent of 1 hour of on-peak hour use, so I'm looking into getting the Powerwall so that I can back feed during on-peak. Do you have Powerwall for your home?
It's called time of day here and for us it's about 9 cents more per kWh 11am-7pm and cheaper 7pm-11am, so perfect for solar! No powerwall yet. They are a bit expensive. But we hope to have one soon.
What power company do you have and what price per kwh do they pay you back? I have WEEnergies and am grandfathered in until 2024 , I'm on Time of Use Approx 19 cents per kwh from 8 am to 8 pm and .08868 cents per kwh from 8 pm to 8 am also on weekends . I belive that will drop to somewhere around 3 or 4 cents per kwh when my grandfathered in ends. The power company also raised the monthly fee ( Facilities charge) for being hooked up and made me put on a second meter for the solar that they charge me monthly for also. I'm also leaning toward getting a powerwall . Right now in Wisconsin you can't even get one yet.
Will do! In curious as well. This last winter was pretty sunny. But even on the grey days I expect our base load to be covered during the day. We'll see!
Nicely detailed video. So can you charge your car when the utility provider is down (aka net metering not in play)? Bonus question - are you getting SRECS while diverting to charge your car and if the utility is down.
At first, "...charge your Tesla for free after accounting for the cost of the solar panels..." didn't make sense. Then I realized it's just a different way of wording it than how I likely would. I'd still recognize it as charging for free using solar and that over time it will actually pay for itself.
Definitely. But if you don't say that disclaimer, people think you forgot the solar panels cost money 😂 I am paying for solar panels. And I am charging for free.
Fo' sho', yo! Some might even think there's no out-of-pocket cost at all and that the extra power generated pays for it. This would be nice as an option, but it also makes sense that it can't be done. There's still something to pay for!
My biggest worry with getting solar in my future home is how much I love to use air conditioning. Do you have AC and what type of impact do you see in your energy consumption?
Solar is the perfect pairing with AC. When it's hot and sunny, your ac can be powered by the sun :) Our hvac is on a different panel, but solar has no problem at all powering ac. My car charging uses far more energy than a normal ac unit.
It depends on your solar system. If you have 1:1 net metering, it doesn't matter at all. Because I have to pay more for my electricity than the energy company will pay me, it's technically better for me to do it during the day. But I mostly did it during the day for this video and showing the power changing. Normally I just charge whenever is convenient.
Is your bill itemized by electricity used and delivery costs (transmission costs)? Assume the net when you 'give back' to the grid that the credit is adjusted for delivery costs. Also have you opted for renewable energy from the power company (e.g., wind and solar farms)?
Yes there is just electric costs and then transmission costs. So when the sun's power my home, there is no transmission thst I need to pay for. And you can select renewable on your energy bill but it increases the cost 🙄
Nice info, thank you for this video. You mentioned beign in Michigan, how do solar panels work in the winter? Do you have to get up there to remove snow? And since the Earth is further from the Sun during those months, I’m assuming you are seeing a decrease in energy production, am I right? If so how many kw less during winter?
Thanks! Yep, winter simply generates less energy. The snow isn't much of a problem, it doesn't snow that much and when it does, it just slides off within a day or so unless it's below maybe 5F, then it can stick around. The bigger problem in winter is simply less time with the sun being up, and WAY more cloud cover. Like it's been clouds for 4 days straight this week. While a good summer day can get 70-80kWh, a good winter day will be 30-40kWh Here is a solar snow video ua-cam.com/video/TK1PYz-gIQk/v-deo.html
No need for powerwall, but it can completely cover the low energy use at night (we idle around 200-350 watts all night). 7kW will get you ~10% an hour, and I use ~30% for my commute in a day.
Is there a way you can set your tesla (or any other EV) to charge at a slower rate. Electricity here in the UK costs around £450 per months without owning an EV. Therefore, we would want to make sure it only charges using solar energy.
So if you’re at work are you able to store an amount of energy and then when you come back to your house are you able to use that stored energy to charge you tesla? Or are you not able to do that
Well, you can have a battery (Tesla powerwall) which I'd like eventually. But for now you can think of the grid as my battery. I send energy to the grid, get paid for it, and then take the energy back when I need it at night or during a storm.
Dirty Tesla ooooh ok thank you so much!! Also, I still don’t fully understand how well the Tesla solar roof works like, is it really as good as your regular solar panels or does it not get as much energy from the sun? Could you possibly make a video diving in more depth on the whole concept and the ups and downs of the solar roof? It would be very much appreciated luv ur vids!!! 💕
I recently had an entire solar energy system installed and my panels are producing right around my electricity use per day on sunny days. I usually bank kW with the electric company on days that I do not charge my Tesla. I am wondering if I can buy a few panels just to charge my Tesla and arrange it to where it is DC current going straight into the Tesla from the panels. This would minimize power loss from the panels as there is not a conversation to AC and then back to DC to while charging the battery. The loss is probably negligible with DC to AC to DC conversion but if I had dedicated panels for charging my Tesla I would prefer a DC to DC flow of power to my car.
@@Dannyfr33sh I have 30 kWh of battery storage. Now that it is sunny I am getting close to 120 kWh of electricity every day and have plenty of excess to power my house, charge my batteries and my Tesla. Good times right now. The Winter wasn't bad because although my production was much less than it is now I wasn't using as much electricity either. All things considered I believe that I nailed the sizing of my solar electricity system. I could use another 15-30 kWh of battery storage though.
hello, where does the electricity come during the night from your provider? is it renewable energy too or is it some gas/coal backup? i like the idea that the excess energy you send to grid might be used to charge someone elses EV while he's at work or so but with this net metering credits i wonder if they come from renewable too as you send your energy company renewable energy so it should be traded renewable for renewable to be "net" metering... sorry if this sounds confusing, i'm not native english speaker
I don't drive very much, what I was looking at was a solar charging system that was only running the charger for charging a electric car, not the house. The car is home most of the time and I drive short distances, so was thinking park the car, let it charge until I need to go some place. ( the car I have now I gassed it up in mid September and still have half a tank of gas now in mid March. Seems if I kept the EV on the charger, run from only solar panels on my roof of the house, it would be ready to go, running off free solar energy . all the time. , also here where I live they will soon be charging electric cars 8 cents a mile, sense they don't pay gas tax.
Hi, appreciated that you made this video. Do you think a 7.2 kW tesla solar system can charge a tesla model 3/Y on a sunny day? Based on your video, I think it's safe to assume that it's not enough since you demonstrated it's barely enough to charge with a 14 kW system.
I just had a Tesla 7.2kW and single power wall installed mid-Oct 2022. I’m in the Calif Bay Area. I have gas heat and electric AC. Hot days are over, so, I haven’t seen how AC use affects everything. I own a Model 3 LR. PTO is not enabled yet. It’s able to provide electrical power to the house off solar and power wall. The power wall kicks in about an hour before sun down. Solar generally starts charging the power wall and provides full power to the house about an hour after sunrise. My panels are on a South facing roof This works even on cloudy days I draw about 60% of the power wall overnight. Usually, the solar panels completely recharge the panels as well as provide full power to the house in 3-4 hours. By noon or 1pm, they just provide power to the house. It can’t push to the grid until PTO is approved On most days, I can add 20-30% to my Model 3 LR. I do set the amps to 17-18 and wait until the power wall is completely charged. This is enough range for me most days.
Michigan has some cold, harsh winters. Do you clear your solar panels off when you get 3 feet of snow? I always thought it’d be challenging to have solar panels in a place that gets A LOT of snow every winter.
It depends, if the roof is low you can go to a building supply store and get a roof rake. Even if you pull the snow off, you are only saving about a day. The snow will slide off by itself. For safety concerns it's not worth it. Plus, I can assure you global warming is real. I live on the other side of Lake Michigan from him. Last winter I used my snow blower twice and the winter before that.. once. Winter is not like it once was 50 years ago.
As Raphael said, the last few winters haven't had much snow... But for those days, yes you can simply push it off or the snow falls off when the sun comes out
I know folks on other side of Lake Michigan...Go Pack!!! I unfortunately have to disagree with Raphael’s statement about harsh winters (or lack there of). At least where I’m from, winters are still harsh. Not only would I worry about snow buildup, but ice buildup as well - you can’t just rake off ice buildup on the panels. Would love to invest in a Tesla powerall/solar roof but fear it’s not feasible in the upper Midwest. I would think it’s just about nearly impossible for our fellow Canadian friends.
Hey which wall connector do you have.? My solar company is trying to give me the one.that connects direct to the Inverter but I will have a tesla and wanted their wall connector. Any disadvantage, features that don't work with the solar edge one if you have that one
Overall it shouldn't matter much, get the one from solar edge connected to the inverter may have more features :) I use the Tesla movie connector that comes with the car
YOou have an electric car it has say 300KW of battery power lets say it has been on a trip and only has 10KW hours left well with your solar panels at home now what i mean without using grid power or power credits how long would it take to fully charge your electric car
The answer is for Tesla to allow bi-directional charging. Where in your Tesla IS the battery. The problem with that is then nobody would buy a Powerwall anymore.
I'm wondering if your solar installer provided any estimates of how the energy production might change during a Michigan winter. How will you get snow off the panels?
In Michigan, the system is set up in a way so throughout the year, you generate more than you use. So in the summer, we do a lot of over production to cover the grey winters. As far as snow goes, you can push it off (there are really long tools you can buy for this). It also slides off very easily, and once even a bit of sun can hit the panels, they warm quick and snow will melt/slide that way. But I will make videos about this as well!
@@DirtyTesla Delivery was last night. You should see it soon. I appreciate your videos. Looking into solar as well because of your in depth explanation.
Great video, very helpful. Plan to get Tesla panels (we had panels by Pure Energy) as we just purchased the 2021 TM3. You mentioned a referral? Can you send/post that?
The rate of the solar panels would give around 40 miles. But my car is charging a bit slower than that, so closer to 30 miles with that charging equipment.
Either the snow falls off because the panels are steep and slick, or you push it off. Also once the sun comes out it can quickly melt the snow as the tiles absorb heat
@@DirtyTesla I don't live in America so im sorry im not really sure what this means. is your sunny weather not very consistent so you couldn't dry clothes in it? or like a humidity thing or something?
Solar is the obvious next step after getting an EV. Tesla is smart for pushing solar now that there are hundreds of thousands of Tesla owners who are ready for the next thing.
The next thing is solar on the roof of the Tesla to act as a range extender or even to power the car as SunPowers outdoor roof 5' X 3.5' panles are 400 watts.
I would like to express a word of caution on the Tesla brand of solar, there systems are what we call a tier 3 system, it’s going to end up costing more in the long run then just buying a tier 1 solar system, due to 10/12 year warranty’s on very expensive parts.
no doubt, i just bought te new leaf facelift, im allready looking to slap 18 panels on my house aswell as 10 on my garage
About 12 years ago my husband installed solar panels on our house. We live in Hawaii, electricity is very expensive, we used to pay $600.00 to $650.00 a month. We also have net metering. We make more power than we use. So our electric bill is about $19.00 a month, that is the minimum to be connected to the net. I bought a model 3 almost 2 years ago and only charge it at home. So far we are still paying the minimum. my old car used premium fuel, and my monthly gas bill used to be about $350.00. I don't understand all the tech, but I think it's been the best investment we made.Love your videos i'm still not used to auto pilot, but your videos help.Thank You
That is great to hear! Hawaii sounds like the perfect place for solar.
And keep practicing with AP! It's weird but you'll get there :)
Just ordered a 12kw solar system and 2 Powerwalls a few days ago! Can't wait for the install.
Awesome!! I want a powerwall!
@@DirtyTesla I was really on the fence about getting them because they really kill the ROI long term... But after days of number crunching, I talked myself into it because my loan payment with Powerwalls would only be about $30 more than my average electric bill has been for the last year.
Yep. That's why we don't have them yet. But they do also benefit from the tax credit so there's that.
@@DirtyTesla Yep that was another reason I wanted to just pull the trigger now. Talked to a rep and when purchased with solar, Tesla drops the price a bit directly, and they also qualify for the tax credit. Purchasing later on without solar means they don't qualify and you pay Tesla the full price instead of the bundle discount. Ends up being ~$6k now vs ~$11k after.
Wow! Through my installer it's more expensive, but the same either buying during install or after. And they will still qualify for the credit... Somehow 😂
You're energy company has a really cool app. I always thought that was your inverters app or something. But didn't know solar edge to look like that. FPLs is trash lol.
Solar edge is cool too I just wish it uprated live. I want a powerwall tho so I can just use that Tesla app 😈
In SD our EV Time Of Use plan makes it beneficial to send the energy back during day and charge M3 at night. It also gives some ROI to the power walls as we run off the batteries during the peak rates. It sounds like your electricity is much cheaper than ours.
We've had solar since last July, although DTE wouldn't let us activate it until late September after their "blessing." It's been awesome. We used to have electric bills consistently between $250-300/month, and even topped $300 on a number of occasions. Our last few bills have been between $40 and $55. My Model 3 is set up on a dedicated meter so it technically can't pull from the solar system (directly) but since my panels often push power out to the grid, the Tesla is likely consuming those sun-fired amperes.
Could you expand on the "dedicated meter" for your Tesla?? I have an EV myself, but I don't think I have any space in my breaker box for a 240v install of a charger...Thanks!
@@douglashall3227 You will have to get a sub panel installed for the EV plug. We just got one installed for our EV. Thank got we didn't have to upgrade our main panel as that would have cost a lot.
One thing I tell everyone is before you go buy a EV, get a 240 installed 1st at home, know what's it going to cost.
@@henrybrar Thank you for the information!
I got solar a little over a month ago...it. is. awesome!!!!!! I charge mid day now just so I can drive on sunshine. We have net metering in Illinois so it doesn't matter financially when you charge, but I want my own solar going in the battery and not grid power over night.
Yeaaaah battery is the next step! I think we'll have one next year
Well done video demonstration. Wish I had your App. Installing a solar system is a good move for most homeowners. Our solar was installed one year ago (northern Illinois). It's half the size of yours (6.825 kW), but produces all the energy we need (note: we use natural gas for heating). With net metering I export as much energy as I can to the grid during the day when demand and wholesale electric rates are high, and pull energy from the grid at night when demand and rates are low (to charge my Model 3 and air condition the house).
BTW, last year's 30% federal tax credit was reduced to 26% this year, and will drop to 22% in 2021. Anyone contemplating doing solar should do so while federal and possible state incentives are still in place.
That's great. Yeah our rates are more expensive 11am-7pm M-F and cheaper all other times.
I'm thinking the tax credit will be extended... But we will see.
Great video, man. Next year we are building our house and want solar. It's great seeing how other people did it!
you have a good mic. 6:20 it captured the fly
We charge our car completely off grid, no power line coming in. We wait around 8:00am on a sunny day for the battery voltage to increase a bit and start charging our model 3. Around 9:30 am the panels get full sun and the battery voltage on my house bank increases then I'll set the car to 12-14 amps taking about 3kW from my inverter and leaving some for the well pump etc.. on a good day we can charge about 140km of range
... we don't want to draw off our batteries without the sun on the panels.. this way we can go from 93% SOC to 100%SOC daily. All "free"
Our system is saddly not Tesla's.
20x 270watt panels = 5400w
24x 2v1450amp/hr @ 20hrs = 69.600kWh of capacity.
Definitely want powerwalls instead. But they are too costly if you only look at capacity.
I live off-grid in a solar powered house I built myself singlehandedly. Finally figured out how to charge my model 3 long range from the sun. I have four 300 watt solar panel gets full sun all day. I have a Growatt inverter which has an 80 amp MPPT charge controller built-in. I Have configured panels serial/parallel for 24 volt output. Growatt is split phase so it provides 240 volt output.Then I have four BattleBorn batteries. Get 28 miles per hour. $1250 for panels, $750 for Growatt inverter, $3000 for batteries, misc cables fuses $250, total $5,250. Actually anticipating charging my cybertruk next year.
This is very good information. Taking notes on doing a solar setup in the future. I live in Texas and with the recent power outages after the polar vortex, not relying on electric companies is crucial.
Another great video. Solar FTW! #1 thing to do before solar is reduce your energy consumption. Water heater and HVAC are almost always the biggest consumers, they can be upgraded to hybrid/heat pump water heater and Geo for HVAC. Use LED lights.
Yes definitely. You save double that way as you won't need as big of a system! Our house is new, well insulated, and we do use geothermal 😉
@@DirtyTesla Smart. I have Geo and solar as well. I have noticed my electric water heater is the hog. I will get a heat pump based unit next year, they pay for themselves pretty quickly when you do the math. 1.5kw vs 5-6kw!
Thanks! Again, thanks for the Michigan-specific story!
i live downtown in a city in argentina if i was living in a rural area i would have solar + EV. Great to see real time data. keep up the good work
Perfect apocalypse setup. My electric bill is 300 month
Worth getting a quote. That's around what ours was... Lmk if you need any help!
Lucky you - I live in a condo complex, so no roof solar (I buy it through the utility).
Well done video. Especially nice to see it done in the Midwest, instead of sunny California etc.
Can you tell us how many solar panels you needed just for the Model 3 and what kind of battery bank you got? Maybe some kind of spec of your system would be helpful.
Here is how I charge my Tesla
I live off-grid in a solar powered house I built myself singlehandedly. Finally figured out how to charge my model 3 long range from the sun. I have four 300 watt solar panel gets full sun all day. I have a Growatt inverter which has an 80 amp MPPT charge controller built-in. I Have configured panels serial/parallel for 24 volt output. Growatt is split phase so it provides 240 volt output.Then I have four BattleBorn batteries. Get 28 miles per hour. $1250 for panels, $750 for Growatt inverter, $3000 for batteries, misc cables fuses $250, total $5,250. Actually anticipating charging my cybertruk next year.
Amazing!
wow you can even see the transient inrush spike of the dryer motor before it levels off. I wonder why the power company wants such high temporal resolution and consequent data bulk.
The app is a free download, but to get this level of detail you get another piece of equipment that pairs wirelessly and you pay $1/month after a 6 month free trial
Awesome Chris! Looks like a solid system and will serve you and the family extremely well over its lifetime! Great that your Model 3 is charging free from the sun. Out of curiosity, are you on a single rate plan or does it change based on the time of day? What is your feed in rate compared to your consumption rate? Loved the video as always :)
11am-7pm M-F is more expensive... Off peak is about 9 cents cheaper per kWh :)
Enjoyed your video. I love charging from solar. We have a 15.4 kW system with microinverters and a Tesla Powerwall 2. We have a 5-bedroom house, a plug in hybrid (BMW330e) and Model 3 Performance. We have had the system for 6 months and have net exported 2 MWh. I usually try to charge when it is sunny, but there are always times when a cloud passes over and it will be then charging from the filthy grid here in Victoria, Australia (mostly brown coal). I am about to get a Zappi 2 3-phase charger delivered. You can set this to different modes, including eco+ which will only charge from solar, adjustingt the charge rate according to the amount of solar power available.
I may look into something like that... Do you have to wire it or can you plug it into the wall?
Needs to be wired. Available from Myenergy. Made in UK.
Hi Michael, hope all's going well. We've recently ordered a model y in Victoria, Australia. How are you finding the Zappi? We only have a 4.5kw solar system, all north facing, I'm wondering if we'll need something like the Zappa as I'm only wanting to charge the model y with our solar, if possible.
Hi, if you are keen to maximise charging from solar, you will need a smart charger (saves you running out to switch off the charger every time a cloud passes across the sun). I have been very happy with the Zappi and leave on eco+, which maximises charging from solar, over the sunnier months. This time of year, I just fast charge because there is not enough left over to charge the car after using solar for the house + Powerwall battery.
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What happened to the autopilot and I were driving along outro? 😢
😂 Since there was no driving I felt I needed different music
I like that your in a northern state and you can get something; but that is mid July; can you do something like this report each quarter and see how this solar generation does in mid fall, spring and winter? If you are getting 28 mile per hour; then what does that mean on a sunny day? 100 miles? 120? so In winter with clouds is it more like 10 or 20 or 30? Would a typical day with your system over the year be 30 or 50 or 60 miles in a days charging? This is what I'd like to know to understand more about the potential where I am.
Great video DT!
is there some way you can have the tesla auto-start charging when solar is available?
Not one that I've found. I can't really find any solar related home automation options. I'd love that.
IFTTT?
@@chrischlebek almost no solar available there besides some "let me know when I make more than X" and even those you need some special equipment
There is of you live in the UK. The Zappi chargers are linked into your solar system and you can set it to only charge the car at the amount of energy being produced from the solar system.
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@@DirtyTesla I think the Growatt Thor charger can provide automatic control so that any excess solar is used to charge an EV. And if no sun, the charger knows if to use the grid or battery. or not. And maybe one day Telsa will allow this via their charger!
Michiganders... today I learned that's what people from Michigan are called. I'm from the west coast so anything not west coast I've never really heard, except New Yorkers.
How often do you clean the solar panels? Do you need to clean it every day if it snows?
They always stay about 2 degrees above freezing so, it slides off
Thank you, that was a great video , very informative!
We have been waiting 2 years for a smart meter we are paying 16 pence kwh to charge car ,a 14 kw solar would cost£36,000 and no insensitive help from government .
I’m getting my solar installed next Tuesday!
We are going to start seeing a lot more solar videos with the new Tesla Solar referral program. 10 referrals gets you a free power wall!
That'd be amazing 🤩 here's hoping. Over 150 car referrals, I can sell 10 roofs... Right? 😂
Dirty Tesla Best of luck!
I gonna setup high efficient solar panel about 3 kWh s total. To charge my Kona Ev for about 2kwh from standard plug while i m doing my job.
8*2 = 16 kw a is enough for my daily drive
Man it’s just little bit crazy to me. I can’t imagine ten years ago. Dude you have your personal gas station or something like that.
Great video great job thanks.
got quoted a system in my area for $72k after incentive $42k average electric bill is $400 a month , the company wants to install 51 panels, Want to know what you think, im new to the solar panel stuff , want more info before making purchase. Also went on tesla with your referral and the solar they offer me is $17k for the whole thing. Why such a big gap in price? Just a bit confuse, hopefully you can steer me in the right direction
I'd love to help you out. Can you send me an email at dirtyteslayt@gmail.com with all the specs? It'll be easier to have a conversation this way. In short, best way to compare systems is price per watt (total price divided by wattage of system). Tesla is usually the best price.
@@DirtyTesla i sent you the email that the agent quoted me on
Is there any ideas you have for me in a situation where I rent my home and cannot install solar? I only use a 120 volt NEMA 5-20 at 16 amps to charge normally. I want something I can set outside on a nice day and slow charge my model 3 instead of using the grid, and not provide power for my whole home.
You can definitely rig up a small solar system that's dedicated just to your car. I don't know all the details, but you'd want a system that can do about 2kW or so. Then you need all the stuff to connect the panels to the car like an inverter, mppt, and at least some small battery.
Use 4 24 volt 250 watt panels in parallel to a 60 amp MPPT charge controller to charge two 12 volt batteries (Use Battle Borne) and from the battery a 3000 watt inverter. Use correct wire and fuses.
Question: Michigan resident here. Would a Tesla Powerwall (if available) have made financial sense in any realistic scenario? Of course you get backup capability, but with that aside, it seems like net metering makes the Powerwall not make much financial sense. Where I live in MI heat and most appliances are gas, so there's less advantage from solar unless you spend upfront to convert everything to electric.
Because dte pays less for your solar generation than you pay them to use the grid, the powerwall does have a small financial benefit... But I would never buy it with finances being the goal like I did the solar. I'd buy it for when the power goes out. We almost lost power in this storm today!
Make sure you understand your local utility policies on net metering.
Some places are required to buy all you make, so your system can be a money maker.
Some only give you a credit for what you give them over what you use. So, if every day your make/use chart shows you send back 1 kw over what you use you are selling or giving them electricity. They give you a 1 kw per day credit. If the credit is not used in one year you gave them free power.
Nice video. Good to see solar charging.
I'm in Michigan, have 7.5kw of solar on my roof and a 2500 sqft home and two plug-in vehicles (Pacifica hybrid and model 3) and my electric bill was zero for three months this year. I also have a half dozen computers that are always on.
Assertions that you can't get enough from solar is kinda silly.
BTW, is that your solar? You should reach out to me - there are some problems that you should know about.
Very cool! I love videos on solar systems and such. Question: have you looked into getting a smart EV charger? That way you could automatically have the system charge the Tesla when there is excess production. Also, have you considered adding a battery to the system? I know it is still a somewhat new install, but I see batteries as being "the next step" after solar.
For me the smart EV charger is not something I'm considering. I guess i could check the price but eh I'm happy with this set up.
And yes I definitely want a battery! Hopefully we'll have a Tesla powerwall eventually but they're expensive. Although if I get 10 Tesla solar referrals we'll get a powerwall free
Dirty Tesla but will a powerwall be worth it if your electricity is so cheap?
Financially a powerwall or most solar batteries are not worth it. But we lose power pretty often so from that perspective I'd love it. Solar was definitely a smart financial decision. Powerwall would be more for convenience/luxury
@@DirtyTesla can you set the tesla app to only charge your car at 4KW (or 100% of whats not being used) so it never goes above zero?
@@derrickmcfall8702 Yes
Nice video. Illinois completely sucks with practically zero incentives from a state perspectice for EVs and solar. Did you consider a battery for storing energy? Or is your electric company giving you comparable rates between consuming from/to the grid?
I'd love a battery, but they're a bit expensive. We only have to pay transfer fees for electricity coming in, so it works out to about 6 cents per kwh for electricity we use that's not from solar.
Is it possible for your solar panels to “charge a power wall” so that you can charge your car off of it overnight? Say like maybe just once or twice a week?
Great video! Signed up for solar today and highly motivated to get a Tesla next!!!
Glad to see your net metering rates are so good. Do you have AC and use it...we are down south and that's our offset during the day with our Solar Setup. We only generate 8.5kW therefore I charge the car in the morning(10ish) before the AC begins to cool down again. We pretty much will burn through 30-35 kWh during non-sun times just for the AC(and other things the wife runs) :( But our daytime is basically free if not negative. I like your setup and envious of your buyback...thanks for the video.
We have geothermal heating and cooling which is on a seperate meter. We could run it on solar, but the rate is so cheap solar doesn't financially make sense. It usually costs ~$90/month in the summer to cool the house.
very encouraging video, can't wait to get a similiar system set up one day!
I’m confused why you got a 11kw inverter, does that mean that you’re essentially losing out on 3kw of power just because the inverter isn’t powerful enough!
Kinda. But being at the peak does not last very long. The cost of a bigger inverter was not worth it basically. And by having a 14kw system instead of an 11kw system, I still produce more energy throughout the day
Dirty Tesla fair enough, will you upgrade that once you get a powerwall?
@@harsimranbansal5355 na. Really no need. Even my max peak now of 11.4kW I've only seen once for a few minutes
Weird, my SolarEdge app updates about every 2 seconds.
Yeah I feel like it should update faster but I don't know how to change it 🤷♂️
@@DirtyTesla I think this is managed by the company that managed your solar installation. For me it's Power Home Solar. If you set up your own system, you have access to the full suite of what SolarEdge offers (I've seen screen shots online). I wanted to get the companion app for my Apple Watch, but since the companion app wasn't an official SolarEdge app, I had to get a SolarEdge API key. I called SolarEdge, and they said I had to contact Power Home Solar. I did, and they hooked me up with the API key. They also unlocked a few additional functions for me.
@@msawyer91 I'll have to ask my installer. I did have them enable the per panel view for me which was really nice. I'll try to find all the features online and request everything I want in 1 email. Thanks.
What company you use? Hiw many panels you have and did you go with a backup battery?
ua-cam.com/video/rHNIxFT5R94/v-deo.html 37 panels
What type of setup would you recommend for charging your car if you were out camping for 2-3 days and wanted to charge your car to get some extra miles?
so how much did it cost you to install this solar thing? How long would it take for the benefit to equal out to the total $ you spent? Thanks!
All the details are here ua-cam.com/video/rHNIxFT5R94/v-deo.html but payback is around 8 years
use indoor and outdoor clothes lines, summer winter, basement furnace room clothes line
Great Video. Do you have any passive storage on site? Also for just for reference where are you located?
So your system is much larger than what you are showing with 12 panels. How many panels total is in your system?.
37 panels
Dirty Tesla .. That’s a Monster System. That’s more than twice the size of mime. A PowerWall or two will be a great add on in the future. See if they will redeem your referrals toward them.
Always enjoy and learn from your videos. I have had my Model Y for a month. I need to build up some history for my electrical use, and then I will investigate adding solar. I have an unrelated question, I got a software update for the car today, and it is the third update with the exact change release notes. Is this typical? I assume it means there were only minor updates to improve existing features, but no new noteworthy features. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed. The Model 3 definitely pushed us to solar.
Yep, that's pretty normal for your updates. It means Tesla just did some bug fixes or minot changes usually.
How long does it take to pay off the loan, so you can start making money?
More info here ua-cam.com/video/rHNIxFT5R94/v-deo.html but we have a 15 year loan. The payments are about the same as our electrical bill used to be.
Curious to know if your electric rate is on time of use (or TOU) and if so, what rate and time. My electric provider is SCE (Southern California Edison) and I currently have Time of use EV prime, which means that super off-peak happens between 8 am to 4 pm, exactly when the sun is shining and on-peak happens between 4 pm to 9 pm, which is mostly at night. Because they credit you based off from the time of use, it makes no sense to back feed to the grid during the cheap off-peak hour and then consumes when on-peak start and sun is not shining. Imagine back-feeding 3 hours worth of energy for the equivalent of 1 hour of on-peak hour use, so I'm looking into getting the Powerwall so that I can back feed during on-peak. Do you have Powerwall for your home?
It's called time of day here and for us it's about 9 cents more per kWh 11am-7pm and cheaper 7pm-11am, so perfect for solar!
No powerwall yet. They are a bit expensive. But we hope to have one soon.
What power company do you have and what price per kwh do they pay you back? I have WEEnergies and am grandfathered in until 2024 , I'm on Time of Use Approx 19 cents per kwh from 8 am to 8 pm and .08868 cents per kwh from 8 pm to 8 am also on weekends . I belive that will drop to somewhere around 3 or 4 cents per kwh when my grandfathered in ends. The power company also raised the monthly fee ( Facilities charge) for being hooked up and made me put on a second meter for the solar that they charge me monthly for also. I'm also leaning toward getting a powerwall . Right now in Wisconsin you can't even get one yet.
Great video! Please do an update video in the winter. I’m also a Michigander and curious what your numbers will look like during our winters.
Will do! In curious as well. This last winter was pretty sunny. But even on the grey days I expect our base load to be covered during the day. We'll see!
Good video…thanks. It answered a lot of questions I had on doability.
Nicely detailed video. So can you charge your car when the utility provider is down (aka net metering not in play)? Bonus question - are you getting SRECS while diverting to charge your car and if the utility is down.
At first, "...charge your Tesla for free after accounting for the cost of the solar panels..." didn't make sense. Then I realized it's just a different way of wording it than how I likely would. I'd still recognize it as charging for free using solar and that over time it will actually pay for itself.
Definitely. But if you don't say that disclaimer, people think you forgot the solar panels cost money 😂 I am paying for solar panels. And I am charging for free.
Fo' sho', yo!
Some might even think there's no out-of-pocket cost at all and that the extra power generated pays for it.
This would be nice as an option, but it also makes sense that it can't be done. There's still something to pay for!
28 miles an hour? If you had 24 panels, that would be 56 miles per hour or a 1 hr charge for ally daily driving?
My biggest worry with getting solar in my future home is how much I love to use air conditioning. Do you have AC and what type of impact do you see in your energy consumption?
Solar is the perfect pairing with AC. When it's hot and sunny, your ac can be powered by the sun :)
Our hvac is on a different panel, but solar has no problem at all powering ac. My car charging uses far more energy than a normal ac unit.
@@DirtyTesla Oh, AC usage is that low? I had no idea. We’re still 2-3 years from buying, but definitely very good to know. Thanks for responding!
@@AndrewGeleff it's not that ac usage is low, but solar is very powerful :)
question, it is better charge the car in the morning rather nigh time
It depends on your solar system. If you have 1:1 net metering, it doesn't matter at all. Because I have to pay more for my electricity than the energy company will pay me, it's technically better for me to do it during the day.
But I mostly did it during the day for this video and showing the power changing. Normally I just charge whenever is convenient.
Is your bill itemized by electricity used and delivery costs (transmission costs)? Assume the net when you 'give back' to the grid that the credit is adjusted for delivery costs. Also have you opted for renewable energy from the power company (e.g., wind and solar farms)?
Yes there is just electric costs and then transmission costs. So when the sun's power my home, there is no transmission thst I need to pay for.
And you can select renewable on your energy bill but it increases the cost 🙄
Nice info, thank you for this video. You mentioned beign in Michigan, how do solar panels work in the winter? Do you have to get up there to remove snow? And since the Earth is further from the Sun during those months, I’m assuming you are seeing a decrease in energy production, am I right? If so how many kw less during winter?
Thanks! Yep, winter simply generates less energy. The snow isn't much of a problem, it doesn't snow that much and when it does, it just slides off within a day or so unless it's below maybe 5F, then it can stick around. The bigger problem in winter is simply less time with the sun being up, and WAY more cloud cover. Like it's been clouds for 4 days straight this week.
While a good summer day can get 70-80kWh, a good winter day will be 30-40kWh
Here is a solar snow video ua-cam.com/video/TK1PYz-gIQk/v-deo.html
How long and how much is the loan for your solar roof setup?
I got a 15 year loan. It was 4.5% but tbh I just paid it off with gains from gme lol
So no need for powerwall? And how long does it take to charge your model 3 with 7kw? Thanks
No need for powerwall, but it can completely cover the low energy use at night (we idle around 200-350 watts all night). 7kW will get you ~10% an hour, and I use ~30% for my commute in a day.
Awesome 👏. This is great info. You're just missing powerwalls now :).
A bit expensive but if I can get a few referrals I'll get one 😉
Is there a way you can set your tesla (or any other EV) to charge at a slower rate.
Electricity here in the UK costs around £450 per months without owning an EV. Therefore, we would want to make sure it only charges using solar energy.
So if you’re at work are you able to store an amount of energy and then when you come back to your house are you able to use that stored energy to charge you tesla? Or are you not able to do that
Well, you can have a battery (Tesla powerwall) which I'd like eventually. But for now you can think of the grid as my battery. I send energy to the grid, get paid for it, and then take the energy back when I need it at night or during a storm.
Dirty Tesla ooooh ok thank you so much!! Also, I still don’t fully understand how well the Tesla solar roof works like, is it really as good as your regular solar panels or does it not get as much energy from the sun? Could you possibly make a video diving in more depth on the whole concept and the ups and downs of the solar roof? It would be very much appreciated luv ur vids!!! 💕
@@Boxasaurusbex :) thanks so much. I can work on this!
this dude is already in 2050
Watt - unit of power
Watt hour - unit of energy
Energy divided by time = power
This is basic physics. Wh = J/s * 3600 s = J See how seconds cancels out.
I recently had an entire solar energy system installed and my panels are producing right around my electricity use per day on sunny days. I usually bank kW with the electric company on days that I do not charge my Tesla. I am wondering if I can buy a few panels just to charge my Tesla and arrange it to where it is DC current going straight into the Tesla from the panels. This would minimize power loss from the panels as there is not a conversation to AC and then back to DC to while charging the battery. The loss is probably negligible with DC to AC to DC conversion but if I had dedicated panels for charging my Tesla I would prefer a DC to DC flow of power to my car.
Consider buying batteries to store your own electricity
@@Dannyfr33sh I have 30 kWh of battery storage. Now that it is sunny I am getting close to 120 kWh of electricity every day and have plenty of excess to power my house, charge my batteries and my Tesla. Good times right now. The Winter wasn't bad because although my production was much less than it is now I wasn't using as much electricity either. All things considered I believe that I nailed the sizing of my solar electricity system. I could use another 15-30 kWh of battery storage though.
how much more for a full capacity inverter?
Very good info and nice vid👍👍👍
what method of storage are you useing? other than you tesla.
None yet. I'd love a couple powerwall but they are expensive.
How much was solar kit and installed?
hello, where does the electricity come during the night from your provider? is it renewable energy too or is it some gas/coal backup? i like the idea that the excess energy you send to grid might be used to charge someone elses EV while he's at work or so but with this net metering credits i wonder if they come from renewable too as you send your energy company renewable energy so it should be traded renewable for renewable to be "net" metering... sorry if this sounds confusing, i'm not native english speaker
I don't drive very much, what I was looking at was a solar charging system that was only running the charger for charging a electric car, not the house. The car is home most of the time and I drive short distances, so was thinking park the car, let it charge until I need to go some place. ( the car I have now I gassed it up in mid September and still have half a tank of gas now in mid March. Seems if I kept the EV on the charger, run from only solar panels on my roof of the house, it would be ready to go, running off free solar energy . all the time. , also here where I live they will soon be charging electric cars 8 cents a mile, sense they don't pay gas tax.
Hi, appreciated that you made this video. Do you think a 7.2 kW tesla solar system can charge a tesla model 3/Y on a sunny day? Based on your video, I think it's safe to assume that it's not enough since you demonstrated it's barely enough to charge with a 14 kW system.
Including other power draw it wouldn't be enough. But you can turn down the amps on your car to charge slower :)
I just had a Tesla 7.2kW and single power wall installed mid-Oct 2022. I’m in the Calif Bay Area. I have gas heat and electric AC. Hot days are over, so, I haven’t seen how AC use affects everything. I own a Model 3 LR. PTO is not enabled yet.
It’s able to provide electrical power to the house off solar and power wall. The power wall kicks in about an hour before sun down. Solar generally starts charging the power wall and provides full power to the house about an hour after sunrise. My panels are on a South facing roof
This works even on cloudy days
I draw about 60% of the power wall overnight. Usually, the solar panels completely recharge the panels as well as provide full power to the house in 3-4 hours. By noon or 1pm, they just provide power to the house. It can’t push to the grid until PTO is approved
On most days, I can add 20-30% to my Model 3 LR. I do set the amps to 17-18 and wait until the power wall is completely charged. This is enough range for me most days.
Michigan has some cold, harsh winters. Do you clear your solar panels off when you get 3 feet of snow? I always thought it’d be challenging to have solar panels in a place that gets A LOT of snow every winter.
It depends, if the roof is low you can go to a building supply store and get a roof rake. Even if you pull the snow off, you are only saving about a day. The snow will slide off by itself. For safety concerns it's not worth it. Plus, I can assure you global warming is real. I live on the other side of Lake Michigan from him. Last winter I used my snow blower twice and the winter before that.. once. Winter is not like it once was 50 years ago.
As Raphael said, the last few winters haven't had much snow... But for those days, yes you can simply push it off or the snow falls off when the sun comes out
I know folks on other side of Lake Michigan...Go Pack!!! I unfortunately have to disagree with Raphael’s statement about harsh winters (or lack there of). At least where I’m from, winters are still harsh. Not only would I worry about snow buildup, but ice buildup as well - you can’t just rake off ice buildup on the panels. Would love to invest in a Tesla powerall/solar roof but fear it’s not feasible in the upper Midwest. I would think it’s just about nearly impossible for our fellow Canadian friends.
Hey which wall connector do you have.? My solar company is trying to give me the one.that connects direct to the Inverter but I will have a tesla and wanted their wall connector. Any disadvantage, features that don't work with the solar edge one if you have that one
Overall it shouldn't matter much, get the one from solar edge connected to the inverter may have more features :)
I use the Tesla movie connector that comes with the car
YOou have an electric car it has say 300KW of battery power lets say it has been on a trip and only has 10KW hours left well with your solar panels at home now what i mean without using grid power or power credits how long would it take to fully charge your electric car
At a Supercharger, it's 20% to 80% in about 18 minutes.
The answer is for Tesla to allow bi-directional charging. Where in your Tesla IS the battery. The problem with that is then nobody would buy a Powerwall anymore.
Hi can you send me the name of that app showing how much solar panel goes to grid
Thanks
Hey that's for our energy company so it's specific to DTE energy
I'm wondering if your solar installer provided any estimates of how the energy production might change during a Michigan winter. How will you get snow off the panels?
In Michigan, the system is set up in a way so throughout the year, you generate more than you use. So in the summer, we do a lot of over production to cover the grey winters.
As far as snow goes, you can push it off (there are really long tools you can buy for this). It also slides off very easily, and once even a bit of sun can hit the panels, they warm quick and snow will melt/slide that way.
But I will make videos about this as well!
@@DirtyTesla I see a Powerwall in your future...
Powerwall would be great. It's like 13kwh? I think. We only use maybe 5 or 6 overnight. And then we'd also have power+solar if the grid goes down!
Ceramic coat those panels so the snow slides off!!! JK 😆
I used your referral for my model 3! Thanks!!
Wooo enjoy! Thanks!
@@DirtyTesla Delivery was last night. You should see it soon. I appreciate your videos. Looking into solar as well because of your in depth explanation.
how much did it cost for your system?
Hi, I wonder how much did only this part cost?
Did you get batteries to store energy?
Not yet but hopefully we will!
Anyone know how much money you make selling it back to the grid?
Great video, very helpful. Plan to get Tesla panels (we had panels by Pure Energy) as we just purchased the 2021 TM3. You mentioned a referral? Can you send/post that?
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Are you charging tesla with DC power straight out of solar system, or is it charging with AC power?
AC
So even with the best solar system you still must rely heavily on the grid. Much wow.
So at the charging rate that the solar panels are generating, how far could the Tesla Drive if it was left at that rate for 1 hour?
The rate of the solar panels would give around 40 miles. But my car is charging a bit slower than that, so closer to 30 miles with that charging equipment.
Any plan for the snow when that hits?
Either the snow falls off because the panels are steep and slick, or you push it off. Also once the sun comes out it can quickly melt the snow as the tiles absorb heat
Dirty Tesla that doesn’t sound too bad. I would just hate having to go and clear the roof. Elon needs to make solar panel wiper blades 😂😂
Ha yeah. They're pretty slipper. I think most times I won't need to.
Tesla has solar panels available in Michigan?
if you have sun all day you don't need to use an electric dryer right?
This is America 🇺🇸
@@DirtyTesla I don't live in America so im sorry im not really sure what this means. is your sunny weather not very consistent so you couldn't dry clothes in it? or like a humidity thing or something?