Growing up in Cincinnati the Reds and Pirates played many great games, and they met in the NLCS 5 times. Hopefully both teams can regain their form because the Reds and Pirates would be a great rivalry. God Bless everyone
@@briandehan392 Brantley has a Nuxie feel to him...at least to me. When it was he and Marty, it felt about as close to Marty and Joe without Marty and Joe we could have had.
I was 11 and remember every pkayer on the Reds roster. Our role players like Braggs , Oester , Winningham , and Quinnones would come up clutch when we needed them. Nasty Boys in the bullpen. Great players like Larkin and Davis and all star players like O'Neill and Sabo. Loved this team
Does anybody remember in the this series or the World Series 1990 that in Cincy a guy was shining a flashlight in the pitchers face of the other team? He got it taken away.
@Jim McCracken I am a life long Reds fan. What I meant is the NLCS was more thrilling and nail-biting because the games were closer and the Reds actually lost some games and had to come from behind.
@@BAYAREA-kd1igthe MLB on NBC was as great as the NBA on CBS. But the MLB on CBS tanked, while the NBA on NBC took off. I think one of the reasons was the theme song. NBA on NBC: roundball rockin'. MLB on CBS: requiem. NBC had Michael Jordan and a Bulls dynasty. CBS had a World Series-cancelling lockout.
LOT of good memories at Riverfront Stadium. My first MLB I saw in person was in 1970 Reds vs. Mets. Reds won 6 to 1. I sat in the nose bleed red seats in dead center field but still a GREAT time.
My first mlb game was there as well. Dale Murphy hit 3 homers and a homeless lady outside the park was yelling to everyone and no one to free Pete Rose.
I miss the enclosed ‘cookie cutter’ stadiums. Riverfront, Three Rivers, Fulton County, Busch and the Vet made a ton of noise you just don’t get from today’s smaller opened stadiums.
@@DNSKansas Stop being jealous of the talented world series players and coaches that go to the Yankees. Your coach Aaron Boone is a Red for life dumb dick! Your just salty because the Astros cheated your Yankees out of a World Series chance!
Bad ass Randy Myers #28 motions to a fan @ 2:31:38... get the fuck out of my way. Myers had 347 career saves, and led the league three times including in 1993 when he had 53 saves for the Cubs. In the 1990 postseason, Myers pitched 8 2/3 innings in relief and did not allow a run and had 4 saves. He was the MVP of this 1990 NLCS pitching 5 2/3 innings in 4 games allowing only 2 hits, had 3 saves, 7 K's, and a 0.00 era.
Hate how the announcers kept underrating the Reds. They keep on hyping Zane Smith who was a decent starter in 1990, but the Reds muertalized left handed pitching that year, 7 of the 9 starters had at least a 30 pt higher batting average against lefties and Braggs and Quinones also did from the bench. Only O'niel and Morris had a significantly worse BA against lefties. The Reds were practically begging for Leyland to put Smith in.
This remains, as of 2017, the last time an Ohio team beat a Pittsburgh team in a postseason meeting. There have been seven losses since: 1994 NFL season: Browns against Steelers (AFC Divisional Playoff) 2002 NFL season: Browns against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff) - last playoff game for Browns as of 2017 2005 NFL season: Bengals against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff) 2013 MLB season: Reds against Pirates (NL Wild Card Game) 2013-14 NHL season: Blue Jackets against Penguins (Metropolitan Division Semifinals - first season that teams shared division) 2015 NFL season: Bengals against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff) - closest that Ohio team has come to victory over Pittsburgh team in postseason since 1990, Bengals led 16-15 late, but allowed Steelers to get into FG range due to various fouls and resulting penalty yardage; the way the Bengals lost this game should have resulted in Marvin Lewis getting fired as it dropped him to 0-7 in the playoffs, but somehow he kept his job, keeping my top candidate to replace him, Brian Kelly, as the head coach of Notre Dame football, who went on to follow up a Fiesta Bowl appearance with a 4-8 season (and HE kept HIS job despite that, ND made the same mistake with Kelly that they did with Charlie Weis who had a 3-9 season years before; it's my opinion that ND"s TV partner NBC has been dissatisfied with ND's performance since the network began televising their home games in 1991 as the team hasn't won a national title since 1988, and if no national title is won before the end of the current contract extension in 2025 NBC will bail); while the Bengals went on to their first losing season since 2010 (which still didn't result in Lewis being fired) 2016-17 NHL season: Blue Jackets against Penguins (Metropolitan Division Semifinals)
Bull fucking shit. The Athletics lost to the Reds because they were grossly overconfident. The Pirates showed what a bunch of chokers they were the next two years vs. Atlanta.
Think about this what if Pete Rose never got caught for gambling this is essentially his team that Lou pinella sorry for my spelling took and won the World Series so in all cases it should be Pete Rose with one more ring for his hometown team if he just not gambled on baseball
Dave Stewart was joking about his poor hitting in the World Series up to that point (three of them). He was 0 for 6, with 4 strikeouts and one walk. In the 1990 World Series, he only batted once in Game 1 in Cincinnati, striking out. When his turn came up in the fifth, he was removed for a pinch-hitter. They lost. He pitched Game 4 in Oakland, and they alternated the DH based on home team that year, so he didn't bat. He pitched a complete game 2-1 loss, as the Reds completed the sweep.
Reds were just the better team obviously. Thinking if the NL had the DH that year, would Reds have been even better that year maybe. Imagine if the 1975-1976 Reds had a DH. Talk about dominant and a lineup no one ever from any era would want to face.
Wow I must have forgot or overlooked that Bragg catch in the 9th inning. That was definitely a home run and would of gave the pirates the lead and who knows what would of happened. WOW, what a forgotten play.
Jack Buck was a fucking asshole. He demanded the Cardinals fire Harry Caray after the 1969 season. He demanded his sonny boy get all those high-profile gigs when he was grossly unqualified. Now his sonny boy is showing what an asshole he is by cheating on his wife with a married ex-Broncos cheerleader, then marrying the woman and having kids with her.
The Pirates should have just dissolved after winning Game 7 in Baltimore on 17 October 1979. Would have saved a lot of problems. Since 1980, the Pirates have been a stain on professional sports, period.
The Pirates we're really good during this era. Barry Bonds,Bobby Bonilla,Doug Drabek,Andy Van slyke...etc. The Refs we're an electrifying team that caught lightning in a bottle that 1990 season. I love that Reds team. CBS baseball broadcasts were so so good and that music will always take me back to those days
My Jessica was born 2 months before this, Iraq was sitting in Kuwait and I had just left the Middle East as a military contractor. Krazee stuff, but my Reds got it done!!!
Who was the Pirates' best hitter? ... Bobby Bonilla? ... Andy Van Slyke? ... Barry Bonds? ... No ... Carmelo Martinez ... guy almost singlehandedly forced a Game 7.
Marge Schott was like the female baseball version of Donald Sterling, the deposed owner of the Los Angeles Clippers. What I mean is that they both were known for being notoriously stingy (the key difference however, is that the Reds for the most part, were actually good despite of Schott) and their bull-headed racist tendencies.
@Jim McCracken How are you going to tell me to STFU when all of the stuff that Marge Schott said was true? And if you don't want to believe that, then there was too much smoke for there to not be a fire.
@Jim McCracken Are you real!? ua-cam.com/video/fYrT_Kk_gr0/v-deo.html Watch the video that I linked. Or you could simply check out Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schot. Anybody with any common sense who has heard of Marge Schott should be aware of her history of racist comments.
It's a shame this league ruined this sport. This was the only league where you actually earned a playoff spot by winning. In all the other sports all you had to do was finish at .500 and you're in essentially. In baseball you had to win your division.
CBS totally sucked doing baseball......anybody who grew up in the 70s and 80s...knew ABC and NBC were the best at baseball......just think if CBS...didn't get baseball tv contract....there's no Joe Buck now
CBS fucked up when they fired Musburger, then chose asshole Jack Buck over Dick Stockton or Sean McDonough. Not that ABC did much better with Keith Jackson as its #1 for all those years. Jackson was a living legend doing college football. He was far from it doing baseball.
Psssht back in my day, these clowns wouldn’t have made it… see in my day we had guys like scooter gennett who hit 4 home runs in one game!! Then actually strained his groin the next year and retired. Then a year later had the gall to claim new age players are soft. Pssht these young cats, would never make it in 2023
I was 10 when the Reds won this series and it made me a fan for life
I truly love this intro
Growing up in Cincinnati the Reds and Pirates played many great games, and they met in the NLCS 5 times. Hopefully both teams can regain their form because the Reds and Pirates would be a great rivalry. God Bless everyone
Weird to know pullovers were old school.
1990 Reds were my favorite team. Wish our current Reds played like them.
Mine was the seventies, but I was so happy for them in 1990. Now if the Bengals could win a Super Bowl, that would seal the deal.
You must be young not to mention 1975 or 1976.
Patrick Gray .we got a good team.if they don't trade off our good players.
aintplaying games we aren’t winning a super bowl anytime soon
Hell with a super bowl let’s win a damn playoff game it’s only been 30+ yrs.
I was there. When Carmelo Martinez hit the ball you could have heard a pin drop. When Glen Briggs stole his home run the noise was deafening.
I remember watching it on TV at a party in Clifton. Same thing. That catch saved the game.
I was in college watching this. My heart stopped when Braggs caught it. By the way, MUCH better listening to Marty and Joe call it.
@@stevepipenger4651 Really miss those 2 announcers - as the current crew (outside of Jeff) really lack in personality. It's sad.
@@briandehan392 Brantley has a Nuxie feel to him...at least to me. When it was he and Marty, it felt about as close to Marty and Joe without Marty and Joe we could have had.
When Martinez hit the ball it was the first time I cursed in front of my mom. Lol when Braggs caught it I was happy!!!!
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I was 11 and remember every pkayer on the Reds roster. Our role players like Braggs , Oester , Winningham , and Quinnones would come up clutch when we needed them. Nasty Boys in the bullpen. Great players like Larkin and Davis and all star players like O'Neill and Sabo. Loved this team
Tip of the hat to CBS for the way they utilized the soundtrack to Glory throughout the playoffs.
My Reds...How I miss winning
You shouldn't have fired Dusty Baker. You won with him. Haven't since you got rid of him.
We'll be back starting to play better scored 7 runs to win in Cleveland last night in the 9th.
Does anybody remember in the this series or the World Series 1990 that in Cincy a guy was shining a flashlight in the pitchers face of the other team? He got it taken away.
Reds are 14-12 in their last 26. If our pitching holds up and our rookie CF can hit his way out of a paper bag, we might have a small chance this year
Sharon Hodges this is was a good team
Miss Riverfront Stadium! Three WS winners.
Time for one at GABP
Too bad the Reds never closed out a series at home!
Love how both teams were wearing the pullovers. Last playoff series to feature those kinds of uniforms from both teams
I loved when the pants were semi-transparent and no jock strap.
In many ways this was a more exciting series than the World Series against Oakland.
@Jim McCracken I am a life long Reds fan. What I meant is the NLCS was more thrilling and nail-biting because the games were closer and the Reds actually lost some games and had to come from behind.
Yeah, the reds smashed the a's
Yes I agree I remember watching these games live and aLoT of time it could of went either way
The 1990 World Series was a snooze fest. I liked the 1990 NLCS much better.
Better rivalry than A’s vs Reds. Especially with Drabek, Bonds, and Van style for the Pirates vs the Davis, Larkin, Rijo, Hatcher Reds.
CBS did their baseball broadcasts very well during this era. Too bad they didn't keep the contract.
What planet are you on, they ruined baseball coverage. Before CBS, NBC was and will always be the gold standard on how to broadcast baseball games.
@@BAYAREA-kd1igthe MLB on NBC was as great as the NBA on CBS. But the MLB on CBS tanked, while the NBA on NBC took off. I think one of the reasons was the theme song. NBA on NBC: roundball rockin'. MLB on CBS: requiem. NBC had Michael Jordan and a Bulls dynasty. CBS had a World Series-cancelling lockout.
@@PakRT48 The '94 strike/'95 lockout affected the next TV contract('The Baseball Network', ABC and NBC).
The only time we saw two players sharing NLCS MVP until Jon Lester/Javy Baez last year
Umpires (Game 6)
HP Gerry Davis
1B Harry Wendelstedt (CC)
2B John McSherry
3B Paul Runge
LF Dutch Rennert
RF Jerry Crawford
The team pete built
LOT of good memories at Riverfront Stadium. My first MLB I saw in person was in 1970 Reds vs. Mets. Reds won 6 to 1. I sat in the nose bleed red seats in dead center field but still a GREAT time.
depending on the people in the crowd, sometimes those bleacher seats are the best seats in the ballpark
My first mlb game was there as well. Dale Murphy hit 3 homers and a homeless lady outside the park was yelling to everyone and no one to free Pete Rose.
I'm not a big fan of McCarver as well but he did know what he was talking about. he called exactly how the top half of the 9th was gonna go in game 5
How many Reds fans’ blood pressure skyrocketed and then stabilized around 2:28:35-2:25:41?
Skinny Barry Bonds - dude should beef up a bit!
George Franklin 💉💊💉💊
Steroid City
I miss the enclosed ‘cookie cutter’ stadiums. Riverfront, Three Rivers, Fulton County, Busch and the Vet made a ton of noise you just don’t get from today’s smaller opened stadiums.
True, but these stadiums were worse for the local areas financially speaking I believe.
Amazing game. The crowd made historical noise!
Paul O'Neal will be the next Reds manager. I think he would be an outstanding coach.
First, it's O'NEILL. Second, he's a Yankee for life now. He would never want to go back to that shithole in Cincinnati.
WTF ... shi#hole in Cincy . Yankee fans always the class of the league .
@@DNSKansas
Stop being jealous of the talented world series players and coaches that go to the Yankees. Your coach Aaron Boone is a Red for life dumb dick! Your just salty because the Astros cheated your Yankees out of a World Series chance!
The 1990 Reds beat, back to back, Barry Roids and Mark McCheat’s teams
Yes, now that you mentioned it!!!!!
Bad ass Randy Myers #28 motions to a fan @ 2:31:38... get the fuck out of my way. Myers had 347 career saves, and led the league three times including in 1993 when he had 53 saves for the Cubs. In the 1990 postseason, Myers pitched 8 2/3 innings in relief and did not allow a run and had 4 saves. He was the MVP of this 1990 NLCS pitching 5 2/3 innings in 4 games allowing only 2 hits, had 3 saves, 7 K's, and a 0.00 era.
3:33 Wow a young Jim Brown before the NFL ON CBS Days! Lol
Hate how the announcers kept underrating the Reds. They keep on hyping Zane Smith who was a decent starter in 1990, but the Reds muertalized left handed pitching that year, 7 of the 9 starters had at least a 30 pt higher batting average against lefties and Braggs and Quinones also did from the bench. Only O'niel and Morris had a significantly worse BA against lefties. The Reds were practically begging for Leyland to put Smith in.
Zane pitched well in this game tho, 4 innings and just 1 run
Zane Smith was one of the weirdest looking people I have ever seen with his beaver teeth hanging put
Braggs’ catch at 2:28:30
how did the jack buck apple fall so far from the tree?
I like Joe Buck. I don't understand all the hate for him.
@@danieldougan269 Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that.
This was the year I was born
2:36:43 Marge Schott lol…. i’m surprised she allowed that MC Hammer song to play
This remains, as of 2017, the last time an Ohio team beat a Pittsburgh team in a postseason meeting.
There have been seven losses since:
1994 NFL season: Browns against Steelers (AFC Divisional Playoff)
2002 NFL season: Browns against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff) - last playoff game for Browns as of 2017
2005 NFL season: Bengals against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff)
2013 MLB season: Reds against Pirates (NL Wild Card Game)
2013-14 NHL season: Blue Jackets against Penguins (Metropolitan Division Semifinals - first season that teams shared division)
2015 NFL season: Bengals against Steelers (AFC Wild Card Playoff) - closest that Ohio team has come to victory over Pittsburgh team in postseason since 1990, Bengals led 16-15 late, but allowed Steelers to get into FG range due to various fouls and resulting penalty yardage; the way the Bengals lost this game should have resulted in Marvin Lewis getting fired as it dropped him to 0-7 in the playoffs, but somehow he kept his job, keeping my top candidate to replace him, Brian Kelly, as the head coach of Notre Dame football, who went on to follow up a Fiesta Bowl appearance with a 4-8 season (and HE kept HIS job despite that, ND made the same mistake with Kelly that they did with Charlie Weis who had a 3-9 season years before; it's my opinion that ND"s TV partner NBC has been dissatisfied with ND's performance since the network began televising their home games in 1991 as the team hasn't won a national title since 1988, and if no national title is won before the end of the current contract extension in 2025 NBC will bail); while the Bengals went on to their first losing season since 2010 (which still didn't result in Lewis being fired)
2016-17 NHL season: Blue Jackets against Penguins (Metropolitan Division Semifinals)
The Reds knocked Pittsburgh out of a World Series in 1970.1972,1975 & 1990. I will call this pretty Awesome.
Until 2020 Browns beat Steelers
Pat O'Brien was one underrated sportscaster in my estimation.
I had no clue the Pirates only had one hit this game. Wow what a game
This was the real world series
Bull fucking shit. The Athletics lost to the Reds because they were grossly overconfident. The Pirates showed what a bunch of chokers they were the next two years vs. Atlanta.
@@DNSKansas 🙄 those 7 games were tight. The As got swept. Enough said.
Love the game intro
This was the last time two teams rockin' the pullover jersey and beltless pants uniform combo met in a postseason series.
Days gone by , what a time
Think about this what if Pete Rose never got caught for gambling this is essentially his team that Lou pinella sorry for my spelling took and won the World Series so in all cases it should be Pete Rose with one more ring for his hometown team if he just not gambled on baseball
Would have loved to see Pete in the dugout, but he was in prison
@@briandehan392 Prison For Tax Evasion!!!
@@adamdorgant9454 Off with his head - as Pete will turn 80 years old on April 14, 2021. Even the best of them face the same ultimate fate.
@@briandehan392 You’re right about that!!!
CBS using the music from "Glory" is pretty fricken cool.
Dave Stewart was joking about his poor hitting in the World Series up to that point (three of them). He was 0 for 6, with 4 strikeouts and one walk. In the 1990 World Series, he only batted once in Game 1 in Cincinnati, striking out. When his turn came up in the fifth, he was removed for a pinch-hitter. They lost. He pitched Game 4 in Oakland, and they alternated the DH based on home team that year, so he didn't bat. He pitched a complete game 2-1 loss, as the Reds completed the sweep.
Reds were just the better team obviously. Thinking if the NL had the DH that year, would Reds have been even better that year maybe. Imagine if the 1975-1976 Reds had a DH. Talk about dominant and a lineup no one ever from any era would want to face.
Credit to Myers here. He knew the job was not done yet and celebrated accordingly.
Wow I must have forgot or overlooked that Bragg catch in the 9th inning. That was definitely a home run and would of gave the pirates the lead and who knows what would of happened. WOW, what a forgotten play.
That's off the wall no way that's a homer
Glenn Braggs is huge
That's what she said.
Did you know they had two mounds but 3 pitchers warming up? Showing off your math skills Huh Tim? 😉
Back when the Pirates could make the playoffs. I miss those days.
Jim Leyland using a reliever as starter in a playoff game way before it became a trend 30 years later
2:31:08 what a pop from the crowd on this last pitch
wow I would love to see this game with a pitch clock and replay
We need our Baseball back in 2020.
Riverfront was the greatest of all stadiums
When sports was real
I can't believe how much CBS crapped on jack buck he was such a great play by play guy. he should have done every mlb playoff game till he retired
Jeff Taylor and how did the jack buck apple fall so far from the tree?
Jack Buck was a fucking asshole. He demanded the Cardinals fire Harry Caray after the 1969 season. He demanded his sonny boy get all those high-profile gigs when he was grossly unqualified. Now his sonny boy is showing what an asshole he is by cheating on his wife with a married ex-Broncos cheerleader, then marrying the woman and having kids with her.
It was such a simpler time then!
And Sabo absolutely went around
2:21:14 should be on loudest crowd reactions!
2:31:12
Riverfront ruled!
As a pirate fan watching the top of the 9th of this game makes me sad.
The Pirates should have just dissolved after winning Game 7 in Baltimore on 17 October 1979. Would have saved a lot of problems. Since 1980, the Pirates have been a stain on professional sports, period.
As a Reds fan , i could hear Jack Buck being all for Pittsburgh in this series .
But he did root for the Reds in the WS .
The Pirates we're really good during this era. Barry Bonds,Bobby Bonilla,Doug Drabek,Andy Van slyke...etc. The Refs we're an electrifying team that caught lightning in a bottle that 1990 season. I love that Reds team. CBS baseball broadcasts were so so good and that music will always take me back to those days
The Glory days are coming!
Well yall good this year de la cruz is the truth
Lou Pinella, Pete Rose lite.
No, that ball Braggs caught in the 9th wasn't going out.
2:31:59 on the contrary N.L host the 1st two games of the WS that year
My Jessica was born 2 months before this, Iraq was sitting in Kuwait and I had just left the Middle East as a military contractor. Krazee stuff, but my Reds got it done!!!
After this Barry Bonds began eating right and lifting weights and nothing more.
Supriesed, Jack Buck doesn't have anything at Ohio state named after him ?
Big had 8 hits in the series
Loved Big!!!!
@@patrickgray5633 Big most intense player of all time
2:36:00 - How funny is it that the clubhouse anthem was by MC Hammer - an Oakland guy?
Who was the Pirates' best hitter? ... Bobby Bonilla? ... Andy Van Slyke? ... Barry Bonds? ... No ... Carmelo Martinez ... guy almost singlehandedly forced a Game 7.
I feel so bad...Where are the reds today?
Marge Schott 1 CRAZY old lady
Marge Schott was like the female baseball version of Donald Sterling, the deposed owner of the Los Angeles Clippers. What I mean is that they both were known for being notoriously stingy (the key difference however, is that the Reds for the most part, were actually good despite of Schott) and their bull-headed racist tendencies.
one dumb bitch.
@Jim McCracken So you're totally down with racism then!?
@Jim McCracken How are you going to tell me to STFU when all of the stuff that Marge Schott said was true? And if you don't want to believe that, then there was too much smoke for there to not be a fire.
@Jim McCracken Are you real!? ua-cam.com/video/fYrT_Kk_gr0/v-deo.html Watch the video that I linked. Or you could simply check out Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schot. Anybody with any common sense who has heard of Marge Schott should be aware of her history of racist comments.
Rip Tim McCarver
👍
Back when B. Bonds was skin, bones, and a mustache.
this was the real series of 1990. I don't think Oakland could have beaten either team..That's nothing against the A's.....
those were better logos and unis back then. The current alternate jerseys they wear now are trash
a skinny bonds.
Seriously, it's like hes another person.
Before his head got bigger & something else got smaller.
Before Steroids!!!
I was two
Goddamned Reds🤬
The pirates went ahead in the 9th inning 3 - 2 but the outfielder made a great play but just think if it would have gone to game 7
Davis was safe stealing 2nd base
Jim Leyland...ahead of his time by using Ted Power as the "opener".
Too much Buck...
Buck didn't know when to shut the fuck up. That's why CBS gave Summerall the #! NFL PBP gig when Ray Scott retired.
It's a shame this league ruined this sport. This was the only league where you actually earned a playoff spot by winning. In all the other sports all you had to do was finish at .500 and you're in essentially. In baseball you had to win your division.
CBS totally sucked doing baseball......anybody who grew up in the 70s and 80s...knew ABC and NBC were the best at baseball......just think if CBS...didn't get baseball tv contract....there's no Joe Buck now
How can you say that? Jack Buck is doing the game!! And Sean McDonough was excellent too.
Steve G say what you want about the regular season but cbs was the best with the postseason and it's not even close
@@rchslion Jack Buck couldn't hold his father's jock strap at play-by-play and he'd probably be the first to admit it.
CBS fucked up when they fired Musburger, then chose asshole Jack Buck over Dick Stockton or Sean McDonough.
Not that ABC did much better with Keith Jackson as its #1 for all those years. Jackson was a living legend doing college football. He was far from it doing baseball.
Psssht back in my day, these clowns wouldn’t have made it… see in my day we had guys like scooter gennett who hit 4 home runs in one game!! Then actually strained his groin the next year and retired. Then a year later had the gall to claim new age players are soft. Pssht these young cats, would never make it in 2023
The introduction is pretty lame.
Pirates were robbed