Star Wars: Marvel vs. Dark Horse

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  • @OlafLesniak
    @OlafLesniak 8 років тому +33

    You mentioned how it is hard to get into Dark Horse Star Wars comics because of the extended universe with unknown characters, but aren't comics always like that? Marvel and DC have years of history that are less accessible to the newer reader. That doesn't bother you.

    • @Demarcoa
      @Demarcoa 8 років тому +1

      +Olaf Lesniak I talk a lot about accessibility in the superhero stuff and where that does and doesn't help comics. It doesn't bother me about Dark Horse but it does matter.

    • @LilBitDistributist
      @LilBitDistributist 8 років тому

      It doesn't matter to most of us but it does for the general audiences who want to start.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 4 роки тому +8

    13:00
    gotta give dark horse hundreds of points for being ambitious, pushing the star wars universe to the limits doing more original ideas compared to anything disney has done in all the time they've held star wars

  • @nodtomodley9114
    @nodtomodley9114 7 років тому +42

    It always annoys me that when ever anyone brings up the prequels they always have to make a disclaimer of some kind, cause God forbid anything actually good came out of that time period.

    • @attackofthecopyrightbots
      @attackofthecopyrightbots 7 років тому +3

      Same to you. its okay to hate the prequels.
      I agree with you about the comics the 90s star wars prequel comics are good

    • @maverickay5807
      @maverickay5807 5 років тому +11

      For real! This guy sounds so cringy! Dark Horse's Prequel content is TOP PIER and often beats out their OT stories.
      Meanwhile Marvel is tracing fan ships and character's faces and this guy says it's "on the level of Dark Horse."
      This video wasn't researched before being made, and deserves a big thumbs down.

  • @TheWeepingDalek
    @TheWeepingDalek 8 років тому +48

    yes dark horse for the win.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +2

      Return Star Wars Comics to Dark Horse before Marvel makes Jar Jar Binks more powerful than Master Yoda.

  • @ragingocelot4013
    @ragingocelot4013 8 років тому +55

    Dark Horse is better

    • @jamessoto7652
      @jamessoto7652 3 роки тому

      You said it bro I really need to get more

  • @Demarcoa
    @Demarcoa 8 років тому +24

    For the record, I was aware Marvel used to publish Star Wars comics from 1977-1987. I chose not to include them in the comparison because it makes no sense to me - these were different comics with a different philosophy and creative force behind it. Lumping those comics in with modern Marvel would be silly.
    That being said, I really should have mentioned this at some point in the video. Sorry about that!

    • @jacobprayer8656
      @jacobprayer8656 8 років тому +6

      It's worth mentioning Marvel's 70's run due to the history of Star Wars in comics.
      Dark Horse had great covers, but terrible "art work" and colors in their comics. Don't get me started on the Bobba Fett graphic novel where every page was purple and baby shit green.
      By the way, Disney killed the Extended Universe, not Marvel. Disney owns both companies and decides ultimately what they will do.

    • @zacharysparks7097
      @zacharysparks7097 8 років тому +1

      tats probably the best point he could have made in the video while I do believe that marvel is capable of doing good star wars stories as we have seen with Kannan , and Anakin an obey one I don't think Disney will ever be able to give the required freedom to accomplish as amazing stories as dark horse haze already dun I don't think it maters if marvel had the best team of writers, editors, artist, and creators in the whole world Disney will fuck up every chance to do a good story because they are dedicated to making money not star wars fans.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +1

      Not to mention the first Star Wars Marvel Comics only favored Marvel.
      Try to compare the first Marvel Star Wars Comics with Dark Horse comics. Dark Horse wins surely.

  • @SkyStarNova
    @SkyStarNova 6 років тому +23

    The new Marvel material will never beat the Original Marvel or Dark Horse Comics runs. Never.

    • @jamessoto7652
      @jamessoto7652 3 роки тому +2

      I give you that on classic marvel comics but they were pretty wired

  • @airr2576
    @airr2576 6 років тому +11

    I liked the analysis until he said the prequels are impossible to sit through. The prequels certainly have flaws but to say they’re unwatchable is ridiculous and shows he’s out of touch with the average Star Wars fan. I shut the video off after he made that comment.

    • @eldontyrell4361
      @eldontyrell4361 3 роки тому +1

      IKR. The prequels are very watchable. I initially enjoyed them despite scoffing at them because of the sentiments espoused by some of the very early cinema UA-cam channels I watched as a kid. The Disney situation made it almost painful for me to think about Star Wars so I didn’t even watch the prequels for a while. I decided it’s perfectly valid to only concern myself with the old EU, got back into Star Wars, let go of the emotional shackles of Disney’s failure and betrayal.
      Upon rewatching the prequels I thought they were still very good, it’s maybe 2.5% of the lines max that are a bit cringe or out of place, and certain things like the journey through the planet core that are just wastes of time really, but it’s mostly very good and very fun like the original trilogy, so many iconic scenes and quotable lines. Jar Jar isn’t even that bad, imo
      Boss Nas is the worst character. Disparagers don’t know what they’re talking about.

  • @joe3019772008
    @joe3019772008 8 років тому +28

    you completely left out that marvel owned star wars first when it first came out in 1977 which the original marvel run lasted 107 issues which expanded beyond the movies. you really should have done your research better before saying marvel is new to the star wars franchise when they owned it first before dark horse.

    • @Demarcoa
      @Demarcoa 8 років тому +4

      +Joseph Michaels (THE ADVENTUROUS JOE) i probably could have specified this better, but I was comparing their new line to dark horse's. throwing in those comics, which I know little of and featuring a completely different world and such felt like it would have detracted from the video.

    • @timt6819
      @timt6819 7 років тому +1

      They also wanted to sell the license so badly that they threw it away for next to nothing.

    • @Masterplayer1974
      @Masterplayer1974 6 років тому

      I totally agree, since my mom, n I have been collecting comics since 84. Marvel disband STARWARS in the late 80 early 90's. Due Tue bankruptcy, n dwindling readers. This kid isn't no collector, or just a noob FANBOI. MARVEL V DARK HORSE, I'M MY OPINION.
      Dark Horse has better tech, n artists since the.70's n '015. Marvel had a bigger fan base, n history. Nothing shindy either. But Marvel did have ownership of STARWARS first when they net on a lame movie nobody wanted. Now they are both owned by the very company they loathed. Nothing is coincidental, n by volumes DARK HORSE has more books, but MARVEL still has Disney, n STARWARS.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому

      I refuse to read Star Wars Comics made by Marvel.
      Marvel has no concept, Marvel thinks that the C3PO pilots Milenium Falcon better than Han Solo. Marvel does not understand the Star Wars universe.
      Dark Horse made much better Star Wars Comics.
      Return Star Wars Comics to Dark Horse.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому

      Not to mention the first Star Wars Marvel Comics only favored Marvel.
      Try to compare the first Marvel Star Wars Comics with Dark Horse comics. Dark Horse wins surely.
      The first Marvel Star Wars Comics was a trash.
      But it was an epoch that readers were not demanding.
      There was no other option at that time.

  • @johnnyanonymous4634
    @johnnyanonymous4634 6 років тому +17

    Dark Horse... Hands Down!!
    I'm A Huge Marvel comics fan and I've been A Star Wars Fan Ever since I can remember, that said, I Still Believe that Dark Horse did Such An Amazing job with the Star Wars comics, much much better than Marvel Ever did!!
    ( That includes The Star Wars comics that Marvel did from the 70's & 80's and From The last four years or so.
    My Favorite lines are the Tales of the Jedi stories, which take place in the Old Republic (Which to Me is A Much Cooler Timeline). Dark Horse is Responsible for Creating some of the Most Interesting, Legendary Characters in the Star Wars Universe. I can say without A Doubt that I am Seriously Disappointed with what Marvel has done with the comics (and though I mentioned it already I'll say it again, I Love Marvel comics!). I Knew once I heard that Disney owned Both companies that The True Fans that have Followed the Stories for Years would be the ones to Suffer in the End, Which is Exactly what Happened!!
    Also, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I Really Don't Understand Why people Hate the Prequels So Much. Other than Jar Jar Binks I Don't See what the Problem is, I myself like the Old Republic Timeline Stories than the Original Trilogy Timeline Stories. Characters like Naga Sadow, Luudo Kressh, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel Droma, Nomi Sunrider, Revan and Malak, Bastilla Shan, Darth Nihilus, Traya, Sion, and Bane, Even Kol and Cade Skywalker from the Legacy line, All Are Great Characters!!
    Marvel has Completely Abandoned these Awesome Characters and Decided to Just Completely Focus on the Original Trilogy Timeline, it's A Shame that Such A Sad Ignominious End Should Come to Such Great Comic Book Lines. It's Sad in the Respect that We will Never know How many more Awesome Characters Dark Horse would have made.
    So RIP Star Wars: Dark Horse Style.🗡✝💀☠🔨⚰☯🚫➡♻

  • @ironinquisitor3656
    @ironinquisitor3656 6 років тому +10

    Dark Horse all the way.

  • @zacharysparks7097
    @zacharysparks7097 8 років тому +12

    while I do believe that marvel is capable of doing good star wars stories as we have seen with Kannan , and Anakin an obey one. I don't think Disney will ever be able to give the required freedom to accomplish as amazing stories as dark horse haze already dun. I don't think it maters if marvel had the best team of writers, editors, artist, and creators in the whole world. Disney will fuck up every chance to do a good story because they are dedicated to making money not star wars fans.

  • @timt6819
    @timt6819 8 років тому +5

    As A Long TIme Star Wars fan and since i have almost every dark horse star wars comic i can 100% say that currently Marvel Is NOWHERE near Dark Horse, What i mean is that its too soon to ask this question you are pulling from the 25+ years of dark horses involvement in star wars and Marvels 1+ year. and i would say Marvel is doing a great job currently. Do they stack to marvel NO but are they doing well in star wars yes untill marvel has at least 10 years in their name for modern star wars comics this is not a relevant question.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +2

      Since I bought my first Marvel Star Wars comic and I read a story where the C3PO is a better pilot than Han Solo I refuse to read any Marvel comic.
      I'm sorry but Marvel does not understand the Star Wars universe.
      The universe of Marvel super heroes is radically different from the Star Wars universe.
      Stop this.
      Return Star Wars Comic to Dark Horse.
      Do this before Jar Jar Binks becomes more powerful than Master Yoda.
      Return Star Wars to Dark Horse before Marvel begins to mix his super heroes with Star Wars.
      No one wants to see The Captain America Jedi. No one wants to see the Jedi Spider-Man.
      No one deserves to see Darth Magneto.

    • @eldontyrell4361
      @eldontyrell4361 3 роки тому

      Well they’ve had like 5 years now...you were wrong. The Worst of Dark Horse is superior to Marvels best so far. Compare Dark Horses first 4-5 years with Marvels....yikes. Marvel has failed.

  • @martylynchian8628
    @martylynchian8628 8 років тому +23

    Dark Horse kicks Marvle's ass. You have chosen wisely.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 8 років тому +7

    i prefer the dark horse comics but that's just my opinion

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 роки тому

      @Haljordan4life lol indeed

  • @ACMCUK
    @ACMCUK 7 років тому +3

    The lando comic marvel did was good , but dark horse last series of star wars after episode 4 was really good , better than marvels. Mara jade comic and biggs comic by dark horse was really good

  • @daemonblackfyre3238
    @daemonblackfyre3238 8 років тому +27

    Dark Horse extended universe allow is better then Marvel.

    • @afonsolucas2219
      @afonsolucas2219 8 років тому +4

      To be fair, Marvel only had a couple of years now. DH had 15 years or more. Give them time.

    • @florapolitis7902
      @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +1

      The Star Wars universe does not match with Marvel.
      No character in Star Wars became Jedi after being bitten by a radioactive spider.

  • @themovieguy3642
    @themovieguy3642 6 років тому +2

    Dark horse made the prequel era tolerable because of the creative freedom that they could do with any of the characters, technology, planets, weapons, vehicles and mythology as they please. Marvel, on the other hand is only limiting themselves with constantly trying to make everything connected like forcing stuff from the clone wars TV show into the original trilogy comics.

  • @jillmo6458
    @jillmo6458 6 років тому +2

    I do not think it's quite fair to credit Dark Horse for the success of characters like Mara Jade and Thrawn, as they didn't create the characters but only adapted them from Timothy Zahn's trilogy. Meanwhile, Marvel gave us Doctor Aphra, Triple-Zero and BT-1, who very successful without being in a ground-breaking trilogy first.

    • @juanmanikings
      @juanmanikings 5 років тому

      yes but those character don't add anything to the universe meanwhile dark horse created characters like exar kun and ulic qel droma that expanded the universe

  • @mattatk92
    @mattatk92 8 років тому +4

    u messed up star wars was with marvel first now they have star wars back again so they both have experience

    • @mattatk92
      @mattatk92 8 років тому +2

      but dark horse is better

  • @timsheets209
    @timsheets209 4 роки тому

    Agree with most of what you said. I’m surprised you didn’t have an artwork category to evaluate them both

  • @np02058
    @np02058 8 років тому +3

    You do realise that Marvel made Star Wars comics in the 80s too right?

    • @hoodgrownproductions4018
      @hoodgrownproductions4018 8 років тому

      +np02058 Yeah I was going to point that out. Maybe he's too young to realize that.

  • @CNFunnyJon
    @CNFunnyJon 8 років тому +13

    Disney, horrible on (Ultimate) Spider-Man; good on Star Wars (Rebels). XD

  • @lucasdiego5028
    @lucasdiego5028 4 роки тому +1

    Curious of a 2020 version of the video.

    • @ComicIsland
      @ComicIsland  4 роки тому +3

      Hey that's a pretty cool idea, thanks!

    • @rpcomicfan9371
      @rpcomicfan9371 4 роки тому

      Yes, please do an updated video...lots of Dark Horse and Marvel's are heating up with Disney+ rumors.

  • @florapolitis7902
    @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +6

    Since I bought my first Marvel Star Wars comic and I read a story where the C3PO is a better pilot than Han Solo I refuse to read any Marvel comic.
    I'm sorry but Marvel does not understand the Star Wars universe.
    The universe of Marvel super heroes is radically different from the Star Wars universe.
    Stop this.
    Return Star Wars Comic to Dark Horse.
    Do this before Jar Jar Binks becomes more powerful than Master Yoda.
    Return Star Wars to Dark Horse before Marvel begins to mix his super heroes with Star Wars.
    No one wants to see The Captain America Jedi. No one wants to see the Jedi Spider-Man.
    No one deserves to see Darth Magneto.

  • @goldtiger5372
    @goldtiger5372 7 років тому +6

    I turned it off when I heard him say marvel has better art quality.

  • @Shu_BLN
    @Shu_BLN 8 років тому +1

    This video was amazing!!!

  • @quamby7653
    @quamby7653 6 років тому +5

    Great video although I disagree with some points that favor Marvel over DH.
    I have been a lifelong supporter of SW comics but Marvel has pretty much lost me lately.
    Ridiculous storylines and a major vexation is the artist who has been working on the main title is a photobashing extraordinaire; I refer to Salvador 'The Tracer' Larroca. Originally his artwork was O:k for the Darth Vader series, if not a little sterile and souless, but now it is just too horrible to stomach.
    Compare this joker to the likes of Jan Duursema and Doug Wheatly, real comic artists who worked for DH and had me re-reading each comic again and again just to delight in their talent. And compare current storylines from Marvel to DH's John Ostrander and I think the statement that Marvel has better creatives is unjustified.
    I used to really look forward to each months batch of comics from DH but after trying to support Marvel's SW I have now cancelled my subscriptions.
    When the license was transferred to Marvel it was the end of great SW comics and I personally really miss Dark Horse.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 7 років тому +1

    dark horse for all the originality
    legacy
    the stuff set before kotor
    kotor

  • @StaySqueezy12
    @StaySqueezy12 6 років тому +1

    ESB took itself way more seriously than any prequel film....

  • @nesss.3544
    @nesss.3544 7 років тому +1

    Marvel Canon get their own Universe right or even close to making any sense. Please give back starwar to dark horse or tell me how xmen and ironman are all in the same world as nick Fury. Oh and why Magneto has never crushed iron man and used stark industry weapons to help his cause. Or a Sentinel mistake the Hulk or Spider-Man for their DNA? If there all kicking around at once

  • @boladaleoyedokun9806
    @boladaleoyedokun9806 4 роки тому +1

    dark horses has better story telling over all

  • @TheColorUrple
    @TheColorUrple 5 років тому +1

    6:22 LOL

  • @BlyUehara37
    @BlyUehara37 6 років тому +5

    Dark Horse is much better than Marvel
    The quality of the Dark Horse stories are much better than Marvel Star Wars

  • @realmwalker2404
    @realmwalker2404 8 років тому +2

    premature debate!

  • @ConvoySeibatoron1313
    @ConvoySeibatoron1313 5 років тому +2

    Marvel comics Handling of Star Wars is just now terriblethey have no ideas to make these stories interesting and they just steal from fan ship designs that’s lazy

  • @luckykennedy7364
    @luckykennedy7364 4 роки тому +2

    Marvel traced over models and film stripes

  • @ericw5926
    @ericw5926 5 років тому +1

    Dark horse

  • @jacobprayer8656
    @jacobprayer8656 8 років тому

    Marvel did Star Wars comics in the 70's also.

    • @zacharysparks7097
      @zacharysparks7097 8 років тому

      while I do believe that marvel is capable of doing good star wars stories as we have seen with Kannan , and Anakin an obey one. I don't think Disney will ever be able to give the required freedom to accomplish as amazing stories as dark horse haze already dun. I don't think it maters if marvel had the best team of writers, editors, artist, and creators in the whole world. Disney will fuck up every chance to do a good story because they are dedicated to making money not star wars fans.

  • @vlare3636
    @vlare3636 4 роки тому

    I am so fucking tired of people shitting on the prequels , even though they have produced the most lore and interesting story’s in the entire franchise . That’s why Dark horse wins , also this dude saying that the comics should be so gloom , it’s WAR , not a light show .

  • @florapolitis7902
    @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +2

    The Star Wars universe does not match with Marvel.
    No character in Star Wars became Jedi after being bitten by a radioactive spider.

  • @florapolitis7902
    @florapolitis7902 6 років тому +4

    I refuse to read Star Wars Comics made by Marvel.
    Marvel has no concept, Marvel thinks that the C3PO pilots Milenium Falcon better than Han Solo. Marvel does not understand the Star Wars universe.
    Dark Horse made much better Star Wars Comics.
    Return Star Wars Comics to Dark Horse.

    • @Calmoose415
      @Calmoose415 5 років тому

      Dude, Marvel used to publish Star Wars comics way before Dark Horse did. And there are actually a lot of flaws in your comment. C-3PO never piloted the Millennium Falcon in the comics, the Falcon was set on autopilot and all Threepio had to do was hit the button. Marvel does have a pretty good understanding of Star Wars, and Marvel does have concept. So a lot of the things you just said are completely wrong.
      Also, did you even read any of the Marvel comics?

    • @Yamanosei95
      @Yamanosei95 4 роки тому +1

      @@Calmoose415 I'm sure he didn't and he is just hating blindly

    • @Calmoose415
      @Calmoose415 4 роки тому

      @@Yamanosei95 Typical of most Legends purists.

  • @Calmoose415
    @Calmoose415 5 років тому

    I prefer Marvel. I remember reading a few Dark Horse Star Wars comics, but I never really found them that interesting. I personally don't think the Dark Horse comics are as great we've built them up to be. Now before you come at me with your pitchforks and torches, hear me out. The sequel trilogy sucks, but everything else like the comics and tv shows are actually pretty solid. But your probably just not gonna listen and bitch like pansies about how I'm not a Star Wars fan. Well you know what? I don't care what any of you say! I consider myself a Star Wars fan, and like Marvel more than Dark Horse, and there is nothing any of you can do to change that!

  • @eldontyrell4361
    @eldontyrell4361 3 роки тому

    Dark Horse to the maxxxx!
    Their artwork is iconic for me and many expanded universe fans, and so are the characters like Qel Droma. Didn’t know what the art and stories were from when a was a younger teen but lore vids about them got me into Star Wars big time. Marvel has by in large failed in the current attempts at Star Wars comics - it’s not just Disney’s fault, Marvel can’t do anything right anymore. They suck. Maybe 95% of what they do is trash.
    Marvel ignores multiple settings and eras, even ones that are still “canon” (you can’t undo a canon, not how that works). Dark Horse never stole fan art or recycled the movies and lifted plots and character archetypes from other stories.
    They keep coming up with silly shit, aside from the SJW crap they love, like a lightsaber gun, what the fuck...
    They have a few stories that are okay, no full series or anything but like sub plots, like the one where that admiral guy was going to try and fly the emperor and Vader into a star or something to kill them, but give them more than a few pages and they will invariably make some horrible missteps, can’t keep it together long enough to tell anything half as long or good as Legacy or anything.

  • @Seanmauger
    @Seanmauger 8 років тому

    I want a cookie too

    • @TheLaughingMagician
      @TheLaughingMagician 8 років тому

      same with u i got u a cookie but I eated it

    • @liuwang9899
      @liuwang9899 8 років тому

      +MrShadowfox456 Savage

    • @Demarcoa
      @Demarcoa 8 років тому +1

      +unknown crafter44 damn guys i go through all this work to make a nice star wars video for y'all and all you want are cookies?
      ... *sigh* i'll start baking

    • @TheLaughingMagician
      @TheLaughingMagician 8 років тому

      unknown crafter44 i am sorry but it was worth it

  • @zanel8290
    @zanel8290 6 років тому

    Marvel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @gwenthard3817
    @gwenthard3817 8 років тому

    hey I'm early give me a cookie

    • @TheLaughingMagician
      @TheLaughingMagician 8 років тому

      i got u a cookie but I eated it

    • @gwenthard3817
      @gwenthard3817 8 років тому

      +MrShadowfox456 noooooo you heartless egg.

    • @TheLaughingMagician
      @TheLaughingMagician 8 років тому

      Iam sorry but it was good lol

    • @gwenthard3817
      @gwenthard3817 8 років тому

      +MrShadowfox456 you know what else is good? revenge I will avenge my cookie

  • @ClarenceSkis
    @ClarenceSkis 7 років тому +2

    Marvel sucks I read a lot of there comics and there stories are really bad it's super unoriginal

    • @juanmanikings
      @juanmanikings 5 років тому +1

      @Viridiana Zepeda LOL no there is no single marvel star wars comic than even comes close to dark times or legacy era even darth vader comic that is the best marvel one is not at the same level of dark times

  • @balintboros2446
    @balintboros2446 6 років тому

    The new canon is good