We been coming for long time and even brought our friends who took their shahada with Shamsi because he brings Quran and Sunnah first, while this uncle Omar goes around insulting strangers speakers mothers and throws tantrums at his big age. Even his bald friend May Allah guide him is embarrassed by him (just look at his facial expressions of embarrassment and guilt) every-time he’s with him recording. This is a weekly occurrence of harassment and insults to not only speakers but the youth, females and public that are there trying to seek the truth.
If you have even a small beard in Egypt they will look upon you as being ''ikhwani''. So no Shamsi, you made a mistake. And where in the Quran does it say ''you cant emigrate to a non believing country and having not your own opinion?'' Its freedom of speech mate.
pfff what is this, study your deen brother stop speaking from your own opinion Allah will hold you accountable. There are multiple proofs for both, because we know the religion is from Allah not from us, so Allah chooses what we can and can't, if you don't like it you can choose another religion what i very much not advise. Proof non believing country : In the Quran, Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell - what an evil destination!” [al-Nisa’ 4:97] In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. PROOF NOT SAYING WHAY YOU WANT: وَلَا تَقُولُواْ لِمَا تَصِفُ أَلۡسِنَتُڪُمُ ٱلۡكَذِبَ هَـٰذَا حَلَـٰلٌ۬ وَهَـٰذَا حَرَامٌ۬ لِّتَفۡتَرُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡكَذِبَۚ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَفۡتَرُونَ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡكَذِبَ لَا يُفۡلِحُونَ “And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: This is lawful and this is forbidden, so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.” [Surah Nahl: 116] AND MUCH MORE so fear Allah
As per shamsi everyone is salafi 😂😂😂 by keeping name lion a hyena does not become lion 😂😂😂 it is such a big disrespectful against the actual Salaf.... We are nowhere near them...
This is good proof that a man can be very learned and still be a "jaahil" ! Brothers, both of you , this is everything but constructive and beneficial for the Ummah !!!! Please refrain from these sessions , one of you needs to be the bigger man and walk away !!!!
Salaf means predecessor, we all have a salaf, those LGBT their salaf is the qaum of luth, those who seek wealth their salaf is Qarun, etc. فَجَعَلْنَٰهُمْ سَلَفًا وَمَثَلًا لِّلْءَاخِرِينَ (Az-Zukhruf : 56)
This omar should be in jail or psychiatric! You guy all defend omar but his behaviour and what he say about islam and Muslims, he shouldn't be free to spread anything
Tbh people posing as scholars giving a false narrative is the cause of this. The truth is there was disputes between the salaf us saliheen and there were didfference of opinions. What we did bring down was a structure / guideline to follow the works of the scholars. So there are 4 schools of fiqh and 3 madhabs u can say of aqeeda. But when it came to the aqeeda it was more or less the same. What you have now is a state in arabia that through political means has made several smear campaigns to tarnish the reputation of the scholars who brought us islam just to highlight their points to create this facade that the salafi movement is the correct islam. People study at madina university and get indoctrinated and thinks only they have the right islam. Once they leave madina U they are opened to the reality of the truth. There are many examples, Yasir Q/ Bro Hajji / mufti menk. Madina university the city of the Prophet PBUH shouldnt be used as a political game. There is great resoect in that city because of the prophet. Not because of this pseudo-salafi movement. These guys like murtaza, imran, abdur rahman hassan. They need to kearn their place and stop spreading propoganda and misguidance. When you're giving out fatwas that the saudi scholars do not agree with, youre taking the deen into your hands as if you're someone eho has a roght to do that. I dont want to spread misinformation but for authenticity ill give you one exmaple. The example of eatching or playing football being haram. This is abdur rahman hassand fatwa not the fatwa of the salafis. So this divide and hate caused by these salafis shamsi included needs to stop. It needs to be put into the debate world and focus on the facts and not create these political agendas against opposition parties. Because the truth is these groups are the closest in differing groups out of any other division. The same quran, the same hadith books, the same or similar aqidah, very similar fiqh. When the difference is so minute the enemy enlarges it to cause chaos. So we need unity rather than disunity. Because the second Imam mahdi makes the call for war, we will be standing side by side.
Allaahul Musta'aan, you really tried to use Menk, Hajji, Yasir Qadhi as examples of people who discover the truth?? They are blinded! What truth did they discover? Also, stop with your falsafah, there is only one truth, one saved sect.... but you have been affected by the ikhwaanis (Menk, Qadhi, etc.) into thinking that the others are also upon the truth because........... they claim so? Also the division has always been caused by those who left the Manhaj of the Prophet and the Companions, and it is not Shamsi who did so but Menk and Qadhi whether it be in da'wah or in their statements of misguidance related to 'Aqeedah or even doubts brought by Qadhi few years ago regarding Tawheed. Cut that useless speech of Ikhwaani, we don't want division in a general way, we want to divide ourselves from the people of falsehood.
@joshrentos216 he lies and acts like he knows all about Islam. The rest have to listen to him by force. Another thing Islam does not encourage Muslims to debate Islam. As Muslims we must follow the commands of Allah
@@joshrentos216 you tube quraan . Who does not know of quraan . Only lazy Muslim who listen to any nonsense without understanding just except all that you hear. Shams don't teach quraan .let's get it right. What verse in quraan did he teach you today. His not my teacher .
Sad state of affairs, whilst our brothers, sisters and elders are dying, we are debating each other for brownie points.
Madkhali’s can’t criticise their leaders even if they oppress and back stab Muslims.
The old man has a very dirty mouth. sooo dirty that he shouldn't even be allowed to say ALLAH SWT or any holy prophets name from the same mouth
Are you stupid? You think Shamsi doesn't accuse people. LOL@mo-nf4cr
@mo-nf4cr I know akhi. All he does is swear at people. No REAL advice to help guide anyone. Just seems like he gets off from belittling others
We been coming for long time and even brought our friends who took their shahada with Shamsi because he brings Quran and Sunnah first, while this uncle Omar goes around insulting strangers speakers mothers and throws tantrums at his big age. Even his bald friend
May Allah guide him is embarrassed by him (just look at his facial expressions of embarrassment and guilt) every-time he’s with him recording. This is a weekly occurrence of harassment and insults to not only speakers but the youth, females and public that are there trying to seek the truth.
If you have even a small beard in Egypt they will look upon you as being ''ikhwani''. So no Shamsi, you made a mistake. And where in the Quran does it say ''you cant emigrate to a non believing country and having not your own opinion?'' Its freedom of speech mate.
pfff what is this, study your deen brother stop speaking from your own opinion Allah will hold you accountable. There are multiple proofs for both, because we know the religion is from Allah not from us, so Allah chooses what we can and can't, if you don't like it you can choose another religion what i very much not advise. Proof non believing country : In the Quran, Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they are wronging themselves (as they stayed among the disbelievers even though emigration was obligatory for them), they (angels) say (to them): “In what (condition) were you?” They reply: “We were weak and oppressed on the earth.” They (angels) say: “Was not the earth of Allah spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?” Such men will find their abode in Hell - what an evil destination!”
[al-Nisa’ 4:97]
In the Sunnah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen.” Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2645; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
PROOF NOT SAYING WHAY YOU WANT: وَلَا تَقُولُواْ لِمَا تَصِفُ أَلۡسِنَتُڪُمُ ٱلۡكَذِبَ هَـٰذَا حَلَـٰلٌ۬ وَهَـٰذَا حَرَامٌ۬ لِّتَفۡتَرُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡكَذِبَۚ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَفۡتَرُونَ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلۡكَذِبَ لَا يُفۡلِحُونَ
“And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: This is lawful and this is forbidden, so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.” [Surah Nahl: 116]
AND MUCH MORE so fear Allah
Shamsi the SHOW taan...
@@MohammedzubayrKhan you can talk with a profile pic like that
As per shamsi everyone is salafi 😂😂😂 by keeping name lion a hyena does not become lion 😂😂😂 it is such a big disrespectful against the actual Salaf.... We are nowhere near them...
Why do shamsi have to talk to this person? Thr was no need
Br shamsi it is irritating to see this man talking. Plz leave him alone. You have talked once and he doesn’t change.
This is good proof that a man can be very learned and still be a "jaahil" ! Brothers, both of you , this is everything but constructive and beneficial for the Ummah !!!! Please refrain from these sessions , one of you needs to be the bigger man and walk away !!!!
This Omar guy is crazy there is no way someone defend or support this guy
I am,not interested all he does is.curse.and.bring bad.image @Soldiers-of-Allah
@Soldiers-of-Allah listen child in quran it tells us to behave well and don't curse and be nice and omar does exactly the opposite
@Soldiers-of-Allah barking takfeeri
@Soldiers-of-Allah Did Mbs make istihlal with alcohol ? Bring the evidence that he said its allowed to sell or drink alcohol.
He might be mouthy. This just aint about adab its about hakkimiyah
May Allah bless this white beard guy,other wise he is extra load on earth
Brother Shamsi is from Ahlu Sunnah and this other guy even if je is 100 years old , he is from
ahlu bidah and doesnt deserve a single respect
Sad debate 0 wisdom or benefit nonsense
How does this topics of debate take any of them closer to Jannah?
It’s the answer is none… then they are a waste of time
3:58
Nice
YESHUA AKHBAR
What's going on here this is madness
Salaf means predecessor, we all have a salaf, those LGBT their salaf is the qaum of luth, those who seek wealth their salaf is Qarun, etc.
فَجَعَلْنَٰهُمْ سَلَفًا وَمَثَلًا لِّلْءَاخِرِينَ
(Az-Zukhruf : 56)
Thanks for this valuable information
Shamsi the foul mouth. Disrespecting his elders.
@@aminamohmood4810 fear Allah , the old guy was calling him son of fornication 1000 times
This omar should be in jail or psychiatric! You guy all defend omar but his behaviour and what he say about islam and Muslims, he shouldn't be free to spread anything
Tbh people posing as scholars giving a false narrative is the cause of this.
The truth is there was disputes between the salaf us saliheen and there were didfference of opinions. What we did bring down was a structure / guideline to follow the works of the scholars. So there are 4 schools of fiqh and 3 madhabs u can say of aqeeda. But when it came to the aqeeda it was more or less the same.
What you have now is a state in arabia that through political means has made several smear campaigns to tarnish the reputation of the scholars who brought us islam just to highlight their points to create this facade that the salafi movement is the correct islam.
People study at madina university and get indoctrinated and thinks only they have the right islam.
Once they leave madina U they are opened to the reality of the truth.
There are many examples, Yasir Q/ Bro Hajji / mufti menk.
Madina university the city of the Prophet PBUH shouldnt be used as a political game. There is great resoect in that city because of the prophet. Not because of this pseudo-salafi movement.
These guys like murtaza, imran, abdur rahman hassan. They need to kearn their place and stop spreading propoganda and misguidance.
When you're giving out fatwas that the saudi scholars do not agree with, youre taking the deen into your hands as if you're someone eho has a roght to do that. I dont want to spread misinformation but for authenticity ill give you one exmaple. The example of eatching or playing football being haram. This is abdur rahman hassand fatwa not the fatwa of the salafis.
So this divide and hate caused by these salafis shamsi included needs to stop. It needs to be put into the debate world and focus on the facts and not create these political agendas against opposition parties.
Because the truth is these groups are the closest in differing groups out of any other division. The same quran, the same hadith books, the same or similar aqidah, very similar fiqh. When the difference is so minute the enemy enlarges it to cause chaos. So we need unity rather than disunity.
Because the second Imam mahdi makes the call for war, we will be standing side by side.
Allaahul Musta'aan, you really tried to use Menk, Hajji, Yasir Qadhi as examples of people who discover the truth?? They are blinded! What truth did they discover?
Also, stop with your falsafah, there is only one truth, one saved sect.... but you have been affected by the ikhwaanis (Menk, Qadhi, etc.) into thinking that the others are also upon the truth because........... they claim so?
Also the division has always been caused by those who left the Manhaj of the Prophet and the Companions, and it is not Shamsi who did so but Menk and Qadhi whether it be in da'wah or in their statements of misguidance related to 'Aqeedah or even doubts brought by Qadhi few years ago regarding Tawheed.
Cut that useless speech of Ikhwaani, we don't want division in a general way, we want to divide ourselves from the people of falsehood.
مضحكه الطعمية المشكله واقف امام شسمي لا يضاهي علم شمسي
These guys make islam look bad most useless debates
These are money mongers . Shouting at each other . Shamsi cant even fight but goes on with his mouth. The same mouth got the teeth and lips in trouble
In trouble how? He doesn’t say fighting words so he doesn’t need to know how to fight
@joshrentos216 he lies and acts like he knows all about Islam. The rest have to listen to him by force. Another thing Islam does not encourage Muslims to debate Islam. As Muslims we must follow the commands of Allah
@@reynoldfranks4332 have you heard of Abu Mussab? Any opinion on him?
@@reynoldfranks4332 he’s live on his UA-cam channel teaching Quran. He does this frequently. Talking about Shamsi. Why back bite him ?
@@joshrentos216 you tube quraan . Who does not know of quraan . Only lazy Muslim who listen to any nonsense without understanding just except all that you hear. Shams don't teach quraan .let's get it right. What verse in quraan did he teach you today. His not my teacher .
What’s wrong with this man
لله درك يا شمسي
b
you Madkhly and his is Khuorage puls none wisdom nor knowlage
What is the usūl of "Madkhalis"
the fight of the idiots 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Subhanallah what is this this is not Islam