So if 50 goes platinum, and sells every CD for 7 bucks, considering the album costs 9.99 with iTunes' cut, he's going to make 7 million dollars. Holy fuck!
Yeah but today album goes platinum beacuse streams and they get like dollar for every 13000 streams so that’s bullshit they ain’t really sell million recoreds
Even though 50 left Shady/Aftermath/Interscope he still has lots of love, respect, And admiration for Em, Dre, And other artists that are part of those record labels
I think it has rather more to do with the major label Interscope than Aftermath. Interscope didn’t promote his shit and there were issues with dropping his long awaited album: Black Magic/ Street King Immortal. 50 was also pissed off for leaks of several songs such as I’m on It. He blames the label that they did that intentionally.
This artist sells 300,000 units and sells his album for 10 dollars a piece. His record deal gives him 6.6% on an album sale, which is the average percentage most artists make on an album This means that the rapper will make 0.66 dollars for every album sold. In total, he will make 198,000 dollars from his album sales. ***if a top tier artist like 50 Cent makes even 15% (hypothetically) he makes $450,000. INdependently, on the high end, digital distribution through Itunes with them taking 30%, Fifty needs only sell an estimated 64,285 units to make the same amount of money. ****
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! It is a good move for fif now after his brand has been built with the majors behind it. It's always a slower process when you go indie and the time is longer to achieve the goal. The important thing that he forgot to mention was who and how will you be marketed & promoted in order to receive the 80% after Itunes take they're 20..hmm! That takes revenue which majority of the indie artists don't have access to, unless you borrow it from the likes of a "Uncle Phil" or take out a loan which requires great or decent credit. So the reality is make the noise and attract the majors, take the deal, work your ass off sell millions of units, come back and yell NEW DEAL!!!! After it's negotiated repeat the same work ethic and then NEW DEAL AGAIN!!! By the time it's all said and done your brand has been built to go indie with your own movement.
man it ain't hard to say that leaving was bussines move,but it kinda upset me when he signed with other two labels after he left,i thought g-unit will do it on their own and i would like to see that,but fuck it,50 makes decisions,not fans. still can't understand why eminem don't leave aftermath and interscope,i mean he has shady records,yeah he will need do everything by himself ,but at least he will be his own boss,yeah they made him popular,but if you look how much money he made for them,he doesn't own them no more.
Thats straight up disrespect... Em/Dre/Jimmy Ivine MADE HIM SOMEBODY!!! Now he up and leaves, 50 did the same and I know its business but man, that's some cold shit..
sooph1e well from my personal experience. if your friend is your boss he will still get more from you or maybe you split equally from what you earned. you want big money? you have to leave and find way to make your own moves. I believe they all are still friends,it's just em/dre/jimmy don't get money anymore from them and don't have to say them what to do.
50cent had to leave bekuz he wasnt making anymore money for interscope and aftermath, those labels are about the numbers. shady records wouldnt care but he built a brand bigger than shady so he had to bounce, it aint that deep
Stat Quo, a very intelligent man, alright. But don't forget that the labels were kings, back in the days when UA-cam and Facebook were still in their daddy's balls. What I'm saying is, back in the days, one regular rapper on a good label (not saying very good label, like Interscope once was), could easily sell 100k copies, after the label did its job (creating and promoting your video, putting deals out with distributors and publishers etc.). Nowadays, when I last checked recent commercial performances: Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent and other guys like these, barely sold 50k (when back in the days, these big guys were selling million copies worldwide, in just a couple of months). You'd have to have real loyal fans to still buy your albums and come to concerts. Like Eminem. I'm not a fan of him, but this guy, with the help of his label, is still selling big, nowadays. I am very sad that Stat left that label when his big real debut album was almost about to come out, or at least it was pretty much ready. Very curious how that album would have been. Well, he knows what happened, better. Can't judge him. Every man sows what he reaps. Every man stands for his decisions and I respect that. But I still feel that he came and left in the wrong moment. Or something went wrong along the line. He could have been in another place right now, all what I'm saying. Coming back to our story. The publishing and distribution methods and areas have changed, the industry has changed and lastly: people don't buy your album anymore. If you get no tours, you get no bread. Now, how will you go and do many tours, if you don't have time making connections and relations (public relations still is important) by yourself, selling your image right (not perfect, but right), so that people know you better and see you seriously and then call you for concerts? Now maybe you have a good booking agent, but still: agents get their share from your money, they are investing in you. Nor in videos, nor in anything. A manager, pretty much the same. A label can put 500k on the table and will make sure they get that money back, but you will be riding the same wave and getting somewhere further in a very short time, like some here also mentioned. And that is so important to spare time, in this short life. Conclusion: Labels still do good today, and that is until you get famous enough to start as an indie artist or continue staying with it. A full time job is, in many cases, still better than being a freelancer. If it was me, I would go 50's way, climb a little higher (not necessarily to the top), then make my moves when the jungle knows me good enough. But until then, I'd find me a big lion to hunt around and LEARN from him how he does it right. You NEED experience and see how people do it, BEFORE you choose how you will do it yourself. Now, Stat, he's seen people doing it. He can say all that, now. But he wouldn't have said it, if he would have not experienced it. Just my opinion.
In this day and age anyone not following Tech N9ne method is failing. I agree with what he said. Make a following for yourself...then do your own shit. no reason they should be selling a ton of albums and not benefiting much from it. Do your own thing.
thing is with 50 he hasnt been as good musically since he left shady aftermath so may be he isnt so good at managing himself? its not for everyone as an indie eveything comes out your own pocket feature fees, music videos, advertising, etc
i`m from ireland but i know alot about rap and money,look at stat quos videos on youtube and every video has like 10k views,under shady he had 10 to 40 million views.you were getting a dollar under shady but if you add it all up you would o made more than what your getting now.........and that goes for the game and 50 cent,the music and rap is now terrible from them so they are making less
Real HipHop fans?? Sometimes, artist make moves/decisions that DISCONNECT themselves from the culture. Example.. Dougie E. Fresh signing with hammer &.putting out a super wack joint. Some ppl need.to know the difference in fan &.dickrider.
Underrated .. so fckg underrated!!!
Yep smart move!! I hope he still fucking with dre though..Shhiitt Dre be havin them heat beats!! Have yo ass sweatin in yo seat! lol
So if 50 goes platinum, and sells every CD for 7 bucks, considering the album costs 9.99 with iTunes' cut, he's going to make 7 million dollars. Holy fuck!
Peter Skotta plus he's going to make more than that doing shows!it's a win for him all around the board. plus he's selling his own merchandise.
he does not need to go plat even if his next album sells only 100k thats about 700k maybe a mill.
Yeah but today album goes platinum beacuse streams and they get like dollar for every 13000 streams so that’s bullshit they ain’t really sell million recoreds
50 got so much money to invested in other businesses after learning from his mentors (Em & Dre)
And his former management company, Violator Management
Even though 50 left Shady/Aftermath/Interscope he still has lots of love, respect, And admiration for Em, Dre, And other artists that are part of those record labels
Stat Quo looks like that type of smart person who'd be able to give you good life lessons that would help you a lot and shit.
Good interview
Never heard Stat speak a day in my life (but love his music). Dude had all of this figured out early.
Fif always been intelligent, he CANNOT be tamed.... #50Cent #Untamable
Yeah he can but only by certain people
Never really listen to STAT but real talk he is a smart individual
Dude was speaking ahead of his time. Take a look at all of the artists complaining nowadays
The realist music advice u ever heard
I think it has rather more to do with the major label Interscope than Aftermath. Interscope didn’t promote his shit and there were issues with dropping his long awaited album: Black Magic/ Street King Immortal. 50 was also pissed off for leaks of several songs such as I’m on It. He blames the label that they did that intentionally.
Smart guy.
At the time they were holding Fif back it was mostly Jimmy that hmwas pushing Fifs album back
Very smart!
nice breakdown
1:58
That's smart thinking, we all need to think of ways of making our own money. Prince said the same thing before he died.
Stat quote underrated
I Only Knew Stat Quo From Madden 06
Correction Stat Quo is unknown lmfao
This artist sells 300,000 units and sells his album for 10 dollars a piece. His record deal gives him 6.6% on an album sale, which is the average percentage most artists make on an album
This means that the rapper will make 0.66 dollars for every album sold.
In total, he will make 198,000 dollars from his album sales.
***if a top tier artist like 50 Cent makes even 15% (hypothetically) he makes $450,000. INdependently, on the high end, digital distribution through Itunes with them taking 30%, Fifty needs only sell an estimated 64,285 units to make the same amount of money. ****
Real talk props
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! It is a good move for fif now after his brand has been built with the majors behind it. It's always a slower process when you go indie and the time is longer to achieve the goal. The important thing that he forgot to mention was who and how will you be marketed & promoted in order to receive the 80% after Itunes take they're 20..hmm! That takes revenue which majority of the indie artists don't have access to, unless you borrow it from the likes of a "Uncle Phil" or take out a loan which requires great or decent credit. So the reality is make the noise and attract the majors, take the deal, work your ass off sell millions of units, come back and yell NEW DEAL!!!! After it's negotiated repeat the same work ethic and then NEW DEAL AGAIN!!! By the time it's all said and done your brand has been built to go indie with your own movement.
Labels been payin artists 0.99 per album since the 80s- music game is vicious
Stat is a smart dude. College grad son!!
Enlightened
man it ain't hard to say that leaving was bussines move,but it kinda upset me when he signed with other two labels after he left,i thought g-unit will do it on their own and i would like to see that,but fuck it,50 makes decisions,not fans.
still can't understand why eminem don't leave aftermath and interscope,i mean he has shady records,yeah he will need do everything by himself ,but at least he will be his own boss,yeah they made him popular,but if you look how much money he made for them,he doesn't own them no more.
Thats straight up disrespect... Em/Dre/Jimmy Ivine MADE HIM SOMEBODY!!! Now he up and leaves, 50 did the same and I know its business but man, that's some cold shit..
sooph1e well from my personal experience. if your friend is your boss he will still get more from you or maybe you split equally from what you earned. you want big money? you have to leave and find way to make your own moves. I believe they all are still friends,it's just em/dre/jimmy don't get money anymore from them and don't have to say them what to do.
Why lil wayne just know figuring this out..SMH!!
rico p *now
Lil Wayne signed a contact that didn't allow him to quit.
50cent had to leave bekuz he wasnt making anymore money for interscope and aftermath, those labels are about the numbers. shady records wouldnt care but he built a brand bigger than shady so he had to bounce, it aint that deep
Real talk
PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know 50 is one of the smartest business man in the industry.
BloodMoney fam
Stat Quo, a very intelligent man, alright.
But don't forget that the labels were kings, back in the days when UA-cam and Facebook were still in their daddy's balls.
What I'm saying is, back in the days, one regular rapper on a good label (not saying very good label, like Interscope once was), could easily sell 100k copies,
after the label did its job (creating and promoting your video, putting deals out with distributors and publishers etc.).
Nowadays, when I last checked recent commercial performances: Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent and other guys like these, barely sold 50k (when back in the days, these big guys were selling million copies worldwide, in just a couple of months).
You'd have to have real loyal fans to still buy your albums and come to concerts. Like Eminem. I'm not a fan of him, but this guy, with the help of his label, is still selling big, nowadays.
I am very sad that Stat left that label when his big real debut album was almost about to come out, or at least it was pretty much ready. Very curious how that album would have been.
Well, he knows what happened, better. Can't judge him.
Every man sows what he reaps. Every man stands for his decisions and I respect that. But I still feel that he came and left in the wrong moment.
Or something went wrong along the line. He could have been in another place right now, all what I'm saying.
Coming back to our story.
The publishing and distribution methods and areas have changed, the industry has changed and lastly: people don't buy your album anymore.
If you get no tours, you get no bread.
Now, how will you go and do many tours, if you don't have time making connections and relations (public relations still is important) by yourself, selling your image right (not perfect, but right),
so that people know you better and see you seriously and then call you for concerts?
Now maybe you have a good booking agent, but still: agents get their share from your money, they are investing in you. Nor in videos, nor in anything. A manager, pretty much the same.
A label can put 500k on the table and will make sure they get that money back,
but you will be riding the same wave and getting somewhere further in a very short time, like some here also mentioned.
And that is so important to spare time, in this short life.
Conclusion:
Labels still do good today, and that is until you get famous enough to start as an indie artist or continue staying with it.
A full time job is, in many cases, still better than being a freelancer.
If it was me, I would go 50's way, climb a little higher (not necessarily to the top),
then make my moves when the jungle knows me good enough.
But until then, I'd find me a big lion to hunt around and LEARN from him how he does it right.
You NEED experience and see how people do it, BEFORE you choose how you will do it yourself.
Now, Stat, he's seen people doing it. He can say all that, now.
But he wouldn't have said it, if he would have not experienced it.
Just my opinion.
Stat quo damn man he had wayyy to much talent
smart man!!
Cant wait til the next 50 record!
Imma be putting 7 bucks in 50's pocket!
Tony Yayo should keep his mouth tight...50 made him get a couple of dollars....
I like him
In this day and age anyone not following Tech N9ne method is failing. I agree with what he said. Make a following for yourself...then do your own shit. no reason they should be selling a ton of albums and not benefiting much from it. Do your own thing.
Smart
I love when he sayin' like dat bro,
He aint got to read books to make it sounds smart
So Stat Quo wasn't even good at his label cuz I knew he ain't go no where
thing is with 50 he hasnt been as good musically since he left shady aftermath so may be he isnt so good at managing himself? its not for everyone as an indie eveything comes out your own pocket feature fees, music videos, advertising, etc
his rap voice doesn't sound anything like his talking voice
Lewis Jones you can't hear it?
Hiphop 101
Haha ive been saying this for years!!!!
i`m from ireland but i know alot about rap and money,look at stat quos videos on youtube and every video has like 10k views,under shady he had 10 to 40 million views.you were getting a dollar under shady but if you add it all up you would o made more than what your getting now.........and that goes for the game and 50 cent,the music and rap is now terrible from them so they are making less
i just checked youtube and a stat quo video with the most view's was 345 thousand views and it had Eminem 50 cent dr dre and jay z's name on it.
I was thinking the samething man. I'd rather be affiliated with Eminem because you would sell so many more albums and make so much more money
No Body Exactly and that`s capitalism
he sooo smart
......
he ain't made....
1 album yet....
he on a permanent Hiatus. .
broke as
fux.
Good business. However, 50cent can't make a good song to save his.life right.now. All his latest material IS TRASH!!.
Actually hes had a long list of good tunes they just arent connecting to the public.
Haven't you heard his new track The Funeral from his forthcoming album Animal Ambition? That song is connecting with real hip hop fans.
I've heard some stuff, but it was subpar considering his track record. Same subject mattet, bland flow. Disappointed.
Real HipHop fans?? Sometimes, artist make moves/decisions that DISCONNECT themselves from the culture. Example.. Dougie E. Fresh signing with hammer &.putting out a super wack joint. Some ppl need.to know the difference in fan &.dickrider.
haven't you heard The Funeral, Hold On or Pilot??? They're classic 50 shit.
dude get a mic
If it was smart for everybody to leave Shady Aftermath then how come 50, Obie or Stat Quo haven't had a platinum album since??
Animal Ambition went platinum tho & 50 had already left Shady Records