Hey Tom, I am going to have to see if it works with my H-D Livewire. If it does I could theoretically pull into the charge parking spot with 52% left on the range and fill up to 100% in one charge for free. How awesome is that!
@@LudicrousFeed Definitely, I’ve heard councils are also starting to put EV chargers built into street light posts as well! Great way to brighten up the future of EV’s! Pun intended.
Interesting post on the TMC forum re the charging rates. "Model 3s will heat their battery pack for DC fast charging, even if the station isn’t particularly fast. This pack heating consumes 3.5 to 7 kW (depending on the vehicle) for the first 20-30 minutes of charging, leaving you with ~16-19 kW going into the battery (the display shows what’s going into the battery, not what the charger is providing" So if you've had a long drive to get there you may get higher rates, otherwise battery heating will impact you.. not sure if the same will apply to other vehicles. From notes on Plugshare they've realised the issue with cars with front (eg. Kona) or right (eg e-tron) and will look to instal longer cables. There is a photo of an e-tron working but basically parked in the spot behind.
Thanks Mark, that’s interesting - so what I’m seeing on the screen is the net balance of what is entering the car. But what’s interesting is that both Keith and I drove a similar distance to that charger - maybe the later models with the heat pumps make them more efficient. - Yes they need a slightly longer cable for the front end chargers like the MG ZS EV
I was incredibly disappointed with that charger this morning. But between its 16kW and the council’s 1 hour parking limit there, and the fault at Evie Mosman, I gave it 50 minutes but then switched to three phase at a council car park instead. 12kW isn’t that much slower, and fatigue management is important.
I suppose if you have a 3 phase AC charger with better facilities or if you need more time for shopping or dining then that may be the way to go. This one in Mona Vale is really just for a very quick charge when you’re getting coffee or takeaway food. Nevertheless good to have more options 👍
Can you do an explanation video of what the stealth of car involves, we own an SR+ and we are getting another one but we are toosing up between the LR or the M3P
The ‘stealth’ part refers to our particular car which was a 2019 Performance that was sold without the upgrade package (brake callipers, spoiler, bigger wheels, sport pedals). Nowadays the Performance comes with all the bells and whistles
You can't get "Stealth" anymore so don't worry about it. It was a Performance model that wasn't quite a full performance. I really wish he would stop saying it as though it is something special.
Hi, if we want to use chademo one on tesla 3 how to use ? i can not found the adaptor for chademo to tesla DC charge . please could you let me know where i can buy from . thanks
Thanks Tom! FYI, this would never work in the streets of Hong Kong because street parking spaces are coveted and monopolised either by business owners (who take the public parking space outside their shops as their own) or by triad gangs; usually both! 😈
@@PCLoadLetter Good question. Also: Measured by the charger at its input from the grid or output to the car? What ends up in the battery depends on the car, of course. If for example battery conditioning and cabin heating / cooling is running you have to subtract a few kW, but you cannot blame the charger.
@@LudicrousFeed Received by the battery to be precise. The difference of delivered energy from the charger and received by the car is cable and connector losses which can be neglected at low power levels. You also have to remember that the car's BMS constantly sends charge rate requests to the DC charger and it could be a very cold or almost full battery limiting that charge rate. Scan My Tesla or the equivalent apps for other EV (Leaf Spy, for example) show you that BMS charge rate. On my high mileage Model S I had once 18kW BMS only at a fast charger on a very cold morning, it was a very long coffee stop 😃.
Tom any idea why that charge was so different between your cars? age of batteries surely couldnt be the issue. It is new battery mangement on the updated M3 possibly with no tesla chargers? surely not.
I'm still trying to work it out ... as Keith mentioned, he has a heat pump in his later model car. But then again, it wasn't too cold about 20 deg C and both of us had driven a similar distance to arrive at the charger. I will have to test another Jolt charger when I get a chance. Also, if anyone else has a 2019 Model 3 in the area and would like to test that charger, please let me know
@@LudicrousFeed yeah seems weird. But even if it was a heat pump difference, there is no way that your car wouldn't charge faster than 14kw due to the heat management. That wouldn't make sense then with a supercharger or a NRMA charger. Something is off..I think it's the software on the chargers might not be reading something correctly. It would be good to see another 2019 model 3 to test if it's pre update models that it's affecting. Love the vids...also Tom do you actually have the 10k autopilot option?
I live on the coast four hours north of Brisbane (on the main highway to Cairns). Any plans to put these in either suburban Brisbane, or in regional Qld?
No I don’t think so. The vast majority of DC chargers are equipped with either both CCS2 AND ChaDeMo; or just CCS2 only. Either way your Tesla Model 3 should be fine. Even if you drive S/X, I would preferentially buy a CCS2 adaptor over a ChaDeMo
Interesting to see 25 kW DC becoming more of a thing. Power supply wise it's not that different to 22 kW AC, with the difference that almost all EVs can make full use of that speed. DC is usually equated with "fast charging", whereas these I expect will be used more like a destination charger. Many cars only get max 7 kW via AC so the 20-25 kW via DC will definitely be welcomed. Even more so for owners of old Leafs which were max 3.6 kW AC. 20+ kW via Chademo is a hell of a lot better!
Agreed Charles, 25kW is still handy to have given Model 3 can only max 11kW AC and many other current generation EVs can only achieve 7kW AC. 25kW is still handy for a quick trip to the coffee shop or to get takeaway!
It’s a big ugly box on the streetscape. I would think if they start to pop up a lot the reaction by the public might not be so good. We’re those street electrical boxes pre-existing Tom?
what's the real reason for your ugly box thing? maybe you should watch the video before commenting. ludicrous feed showed a picture with before and afterwards.
@@LudicrousFeed That was my impression too. I was in the Alexandria delivery centre a couple of weeks ago picking up my Model 3 a week after I saw your video doing the same with someone. I felt like I'd already been there, thanks for that.
@@LudicrousFeed Yes but somebody approved it and any subsequent development around it. I saw a story on Jolt a few weeks ago and think it's a great idea but some of the location of those power boxes is questionable.
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Did you see that the referral program is no longer as of today?
@@mark123655 On the plus side, there’s enough demand without the need for a referral program
Great review Tom! Looks like you had a great experience using this charger. Will look forward to a few more in the network soon 👍
Thanks Andrew! Can’t wait to review more of these
Thanks Tom that was a great video. Hopefully they will set up some Jolt chargers on the Central Coast you never know. Long way to Mona Vale. LOL.
Thanks! Hopefully you’ll see some up your way soon 🙏🙂
Great vid Tom.
Looking forward to when they hit the streets of Melbourne.
They will be rolling out over time 👍🙂
it is only one power company doing that jolt thing
Thanks Tom, I just downloaded the app. Currently that is the only charger listed. I look forward to more soon
I believe there will be a few more popping up soon in Sydney
there are a few in adelaide
Glad to see Tesla owners using a non Tesla charger.
This helps to encourage other charging providers to add more chargers.
👍
i am not quite sure i agree with you.
some tesla drivers often occupy "free" dc charger right next to tesla chargers.
Hey Tom, I am going to have to see if it works with my H-D Livewire. If it does I could theoretically pull into the charge parking spot with 52% left on the range and fill up to 100% in one charge for free. How awesome is that!
Hey Mark! Yes that would be very handy for you 🙂
That is a big box for a relatively slow charge, great concept though!
Might as well make use of those green boxes
@@LudicrousFeed Definitely, I’ve heard councils are also starting to put EV chargers built into street light posts as well! Great way to brighten up the future of EV’s! Pun intended.
Hi TT Jolt will love you You would need bigger bollards on the road than they have is my wife was driving Enjoy your video's Cheers mate
Thanks Allan, happy to review products that help EV drivers
Interesting post on the TMC forum re the charging rates.
"Model 3s will heat their battery pack for DC fast charging, even if the station isn’t particularly fast. This pack heating consumes 3.5 to 7 kW (depending on the vehicle) for the first 20-30 minutes of charging, leaving you with ~16-19 kW going into the battery (the display shows what’s going into the battery, not what the charger is providing"
So if you've had a long drive to get there you may get higher rates, otherwise battery heating will impact you.. not sure if the same will apply to other vehicles.
From notes on Plugshare they've realised the issue with cars with front (eg. Kona) or right (eg e-tron) and will look to instal longer cables.
There is a photo of an e-tron working but basically parked in the spot behind.
Thanks Mark, that’s interesting - so what I’m seeing on the screen is the net balance of what is entering the car. But what’s interesting is that both Keith and I drove a similar distance to that charger - maybe the later models with the heat pumps make them more efficient.
- Yes they need a slightly longer cable for the front end chargers like the MG ZS EV
I was incredibly disappointed with that charger this morning. But between its 16kW and the council’s 1 hour parking limit there, and the fault at Evie Mosman, I gave it 50 minutes but then switched to three phase at a council car park instead. 12kW isn’t that much slower, and fatigue management is important.
I suppose if you have a 3 phase AC charger with better facilities or if you need more time for shopping or dining then that may be the way to go. This one in Mona Vale is really just for a very quick charge when you’re getting coffee or takeaway food. Nevertheless good to have more options 👍
Can you do an explanation video of what the stealth of car involves, we own an SR+ and we are getting another one but we are toosing up between the LR or the M3P
The ‘stealth’ part refers to our particular car which was a 2019 Performance that was sold without the upgrade package (brake callipers, spoiler, bigger wheels, sport pedals). Nowadays the Performance comes with all the bells and whistles
You can't get "Stealth" anymore so don't worry about it. It was a Performance model that wasn't quite a full performance. I really wish he would stop saying it as though it is something special.
Hi, if we want to use chademo one on tesla 3 how to use ? i can not found the adaptor for chademo to tesla DC charge . please could you let me know where i can buy from . thanks
The Tesla ChaDeMo adaptor is not compatible with Model 3/Y in Australia
Hey mate I got an electric motorbike I can use those charger stations? Here some especifications : 10000w motor and battery 72v 120ah.
If your bike has either a CCS2 or ChaDeMo port then you’re good to go
Thanks Tom! FYI, this would never work in the streets of Hong Kong because street parking spaces are coveted and monopolised either by business owners (who take the public parking space outside their shops as their own) or by triad gangs; usually both! 😈
Thanks Toofless, street parking is scarce in parts of Sydney too 🙂
@@LudicrousFeed Street parking exploited by gangs? Lol!
You've got 7kWh in 20 mins ? That's a charge rate of 21kW which is sort of expected on a 25kW nominal DC charger.
True that’s not bad when you put it that way
7kWh delivered by the charger or 7kWh added into the battery pack?
@@PCLoadLetter Good question. Also: Measured by the charger at its input from the grid or output to the car? What ends up in the battery depends on the car, of course. If for example battery conditioning and cabin heating / cooling is running you have to subtract a few kW, but you cannot blame the charger.
I’d say it’s 7kWh delivered from the charger rather than received by the car
@@LudicrousFeed Received by the battery to be precise. The difference of delivered energy from the charger and received by the car is cable and connector losses which can be neglected at low power levels. You also have to remember that the car's BMS constantly sends charge rate requests to the DC charger and it could be a very cold or almost full battery limiting that charge rate. Scan My Tesla or the equivalent apps for other EV (Leaf Spy, for example) show you that BMS charge rate. On my high mileage Model S I had once 18kW BMS only at a fast charger on a very cold morning, it was a very long coffee stop 😃.
Tom any idea why that charge was so different between your cars? age of batteries surely couldnt be the issue. It is new battery mangement on the updated M3 possibly with no tesla chargers? surely not.
I'm still trying to work it out ... as Keith mentioned, he has a heat pump in his later model car. But then again, it wasn't too cold about 20 deg C and both of us had driven a similar distance to arrive at the charger. I will have to test another Jolt charger when I get a chance. Also, if anyone else has a 2019 Model 3 in the area and would like to test that charger, please let me know
@Sɛnˈseɪ Sīfù Shreder Mona Vale is the first location. I’ll try to review them as they pop up
@@LudicrousFeed yeah seems weird. But even if it was a heat pump difference, there is no way that your car wouldn't charge faster than 14kw due to the heat management. That wouldn't make sense then with a supercharger or a NRMA charger. Something is off..I think it's the software on the chargers might not be reading something correctly. It would be good to see another 2019 model 3 to test if it's pre update models that it's affecting. Love the vids...also Tom do you actually have the 10k autopilot option?
@@racecrashrepeat Thank you 🙏 yes we have the FSD package which we paid $8500 back in the day
I live on the coast four hours north of Brisbane (on the main highway to Cairns). Any plans to put these in either suburban Brisbane, or in regional Qld?
If I find a Jolt ‘coming soon’ detailed map, I’ll discuss it in on my Thursday live stream
@@LudicrousFeed many thanks Tom. Phil
Location: Zetland and East Gardens
great video. Is it worth getting a chademo to CCS2 adapter for NSW?
No I don’t think so. The vast majority of DC chargers are equipped with either both CCS2 AND ChaDeMo; or just CCS2 only. Either way your Tesla Model 3 should be fine. Even if you drive S/X, I would preferentially buy a CCS2 adaptor over a ChaDeMo
Such an adaptor doesn't exist.
Interesting to see 25 kW DC becoming more of a thing. Power supply wise it's not that different to 22 kW AC, with the difference that almost all EVs can make full use of that speed. DC is usually equated with "fast charging", whereas these I expect will be used more like a destination charger. Many cars only get max 7 kW via AC so the 20-25 kW via DC will definitely be welcomed. Even more so for owners of old Leafs which were max 3.6 kW AC. 20+ kW via Chademo is a hell of a lot better!
Agreed Charles, 25kW is still handy to have given Model 3 can only max 11kW AC and many other current generation EVs can only achieve 7kW AC. 25kW is still handy for a quick trip to the coffee shop or to get takeaway!
Bet it took a few attempts to get the mask recording levels right ? Sounds great.
Things we have to do right? 😉 Thanks for watching 🙏🙂
It’s a big ugly box on the streetscape. I would think if they start to pop up a lot the reaction by the public might not be so good. We’re those street electrical boxes pre-existing Tom?
As I mentioned at 5:16 there’s always been a big ugly box at this location
what's the real reason for your ugly box thing? maybe you should watch the video before commenting. ludicrous feed showed a picture with before and afterwards.
Nice info...
🙏🙂
Was your mate saying that the Chinese made Model 3s don't have a heat pump?
I’m quite sure they all come standard with heat pumps now, Shanghai GF included
@@LudicrousFeed That was my impression too. I was in the Alexandria delivery centre a couple of weeks ago picking up my Model 3 a week after I saw your video doing the same with someone. I felt like I'd already been there, thanks for that.
How do you check if your Tesla is made in China or USA? Also I get my Tesla Thursday! 😀
Awesome! Take a look at the VIN
LRW3… China
@@LudicrousFeed is there much difference between them, is one better than the other?
Have a look at some of my vids. The quality of the GF Shanghai Model 3 is very good
Its Payer Funded not Free.
Perhaps Freemium is a better term
so if there's an accident and a car hits that box they're as good as dead.. Genius by the local council there.
As I mentioned at 5:16 there’s always been a big green box at this location
@@LudicrousFeed Yes but somebody approved it and any subsequent development around it. I saw a story on Jolt a few weeks ago and think it's a great idea but some of the location of those power boxes is questionable.
@@darren4635
i implore you to drive civilly and not hooning around were those jolt boxes are.
@@ursodermatt8809 never mind the rest of the population, you just focus on me and my driving.
Why you wasting petrol driving all the way to the charger, you can charge for free at home.
Petrol?