Hungary's Orban Claims This Hungarian Community Is Oppressed in Ukraine

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  • @georgiannallegar5720
    @georgiannallegar5720 10 місяців тому +37

    Go away Victor

    • @peterbalogh8138
      @peterbalogh8138 10 місяців тому +7

      That's decided by the Hungarians, not you.

    • @georgiannallegar5720
      @georgiannallegar5720 10 місяців тому +2

      @@peterbalogh8138 and they will.

    • @peterbalogh8138
      @peterbalogh8138 10 місяців тому +4

      @@georgiannallegar5720 They have already approved Orbán's policies with absolute majority in 2010, 2014, 2018 and 2022, despite EU/US interferences.

    • @georgiannallegar5720
      @georgiannallegar5720 10 місяців тому

      @peterbalogh8138 I don't really care. He is an authoritarian who will eventually cease to exist. And to that, I say it can't happen soon enough. Power to the people.

    • @peterbalogh8138
      @peterbalogh8138 10 місяців тому

      @@georgiannallegar5720 Yeah, some dead boring commonplaces with no meat.

  • @jjekedjrjkdkdkejdjskdnxidj9344
    @jjekedjrjkdkdkejdjskdnxidj9344 10 місяців тому +5

    Hungary should receive from the EU 30 billion Euros ,but this money the EU blocked to Hungary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The question is why must accept Hungary that to giving 55 billion Euro to an other NON EU member country If for Hungary dont give her Own Money? First must give to Hungary her own money

  • @JustARandomFio
    @JustARandomFio 10 місяців тому +34

    We have such communities of large minorities everywhere in Europe. All works well until radical nationalists or separatists start causing havoc which in some cases results in the radicalization of both parties and governmental interventions. Orban shall let these people alone and stop sowing hate and divisions. Especially considering that he's the last one respecting the rights of minorities.

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому +2

      Try to ask how the homosexuals feel in Hungary.

    • @madmax6827
      @madmax6827 10 місяців тому +6

      @@nataliiateteruk585 How do they feel? Who cares? They have the same rights as any other citizen.

    • @ZoltGz
      @ZoltGz 10 місяців тому

      Well when you take into account that Hungary was the first country to implement rights for minorities in all Europe and then see what was done to us in the treaty of trianon... Or when Hungarians helped America in the civil war to free slaves... You know maybe our people should of not done what they did ... In 1241 500.000 Hungarians in the countryside exterminated, then the Ottoman empire raided and burn entire villages... Maybe we truly are cursed. 1848 against two empires... What did we do to deserve this...my family conscripted for the Romanian army in 1941 now Ukranians conscript the most Hungarians their rights taken away untill two weeks ago... a soft ethnic cleansing that has been going on since a long time , maybe our people should of blocked all access to the people entering Hungary...

    • @belaadorian3370
      @belaadorian3370 10 місяців тому

      ​@@nataliiateteruk585You like them,? You can have them.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +3

      @@nataliiateteruk585They have all the rights,pride twirking parade gay bars what ever.
      They are safer in Hungary than in the US.

  • @Culturesocialism-cz7jx
    @Culturesocialism-cz7jx 10 місяців тому +5

    The problem that the new Ukrainian parliaments and the new governments created laws against national minorities since 2014.
    ..
    The essence of the new policy of Ukraine - forcing Ukrainisation.
    It is forbidden to speak in Hungarian in a buro.
    ..
    Ukraine became not more Euoeopen but less European.
    ..
    Even important politicians (like A. Arestovich) recognize the problem of unequality of nations in Ukraine.
    ..
    The existence of Russian minority is not recognised at all in Ukraine.
    ..
    ua-cam.com/video/YG6Txc6U_O4/v-deo.htmlsi=KVMjfBARwIotni13

  • @lunkis3233
    @lunkis3233 10 місяців тому +34

    Of course the dictator Orban says that.

    • @tokajileo5928
      @tokajileo5928 10 місяців тому +11

      my friend was beaten till he bled because he dared to speak Hungarian in Karpatalja. I live 50 miles form the border. The oppression of minorities in Ukraine is unprecedented .

    • @セ千尺丂セ
      @セ千尺丂セ 10 місяців тому +12

      ​@@tokajileo5928Used to live in Hungary. Orban completely destroyed the country.

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому

      Orban is a dictator AND a fascist.

    • @madmax6827
      @madmax6827 10 місяців тому

      @@セ千尺丂セ Good that you moved, one less loser to support.

    • @adamus1342
      @adamus1342 10 місяців тому +5

      @@セ千尺丂セ You are out of touch with reality.

  • @endres5628
    @endres5628 10 місяців тому +25

    I am hungarian. I totally support Ukraine since the beginning of the war. And I am sure the opposition of the hungarian government thinks the same. So my first thought on this
    EU decision is that hungarian government did a big mistake to not support it. It is a shame for all hungarian people. Secondly, all candidate countries are partly occupied by russia...
    That means the situation is very difficult but we all hope that Ukraine will win this war with the help of all democratic countries.

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому +3

      But you as an 'ordinary' Hungarian citizen need to step up your games of opposition, demonstrations and even strikes so government Hungary can change.

    • @SKalapishev
      @SKalapishev 10 місяців тому

      @@nataliiateteruk585 Precisely!

    • @Unfiltered-gb8vh
      @Unfiltered-gb8vh 10 місяців тому +2

      Very thoughtful and brave of you to say this. Thank you for supporting Ukraine. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

    • @marisabenson1222
      @marisabenson1222 10 місяців тому +1

      Is Orban popular in Hungary?

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому +2

      @@marisabenson1222 he is hated but feared.

  • @Culturesocialism-cz7jx
    @Culturesocialism-cz7jx 10 місяців тому +5

    Human rights are hurt in general in Ukraine.
    People are cought on the streets as animals in order to be sent to the war.
    ..
    Ukraine is very similar to Russia or even worse because Russia has also safe regions (with human rights, kept) but Ukraine does not.

  • @gustavalexander8676
    @gustavalexander8676 10 місяців тому +11

    He isn't entirely wrong. To my knowledge the magyar minorities in the provinces have been mobilized disproportionately in comparison to ukrainians living in the larger cities.
    This isn't new of course. The Russians mobilize a lot of yakut people while the americans during vietnam conscripted many unfortunate black youths. Its still vile and should be critisised (but of course some people view any criticism of ukraine as "supporting the enemy").

  • @lornamorgan3575
    @lornamorgan3575 10 місяців тому +23

    People in glass houses. Perhaps Mr Orban can show how well he looks after the ethnic minorities in Hungary. Perhaps he can start with the Roma.

    • @peterbalogh8138
      @peterbalogh8138 10 місяців тому +7

      Really, what about them?

    • @lornamorgan3575
      @lornamorgan3575 10 місяців тому +5

      @peterbalogh8138 There is a lot of racism and social exclusion. About 75% live in rural areas, most in poverty.
      There is bias in education. The conditions that Roma students are forced to study in are very inferior to their ethnic Hungarian countrymen.

    • @peterbalogh8138
      @peterbalogh8138 10 місяців тому +7

      @@lornamorgan3575 I am Hungarian, I live in Hungary, so I don't need telling by someone informed by biased articles. from abroad. The Roma community has received an enormous amount of support and assistance by the Orban governments. The majority of Roma can NOT be forced to move their children to urban areas, or to prevent their social customs of early marriage. Short of forced resettlement and Chinese-style reeducation, the government can not do more. Besides - during the previous social-liberal government a crime wave swept through murdering and attacking Gypsies. And guess what - it was during the Orban government that the perpetrators hwere arrested and trialed.

    • @lornamorgan3575
      @lornamorgan3575 10 місяців тому +2

      @peterbalogh8138 I'm glad you feel that life has improved for them, so much.

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому

      Romanian people are sick about fascist and dictatorial Orban.
      Sad to see the minorities like Romanis are too unorganized to pull off a coup.

  • @Patendyck76
    @Patendyck76 10 місяців тому +1

    Freedom & Liberty are strange titles for a channel that represents neither. It’s just a mouthpiece for the neocon warmongers in NATO.

  • @sophiemariekung5086
    @sophiemariekung5086 10 місяців тому +5

    Discovering the contradictions in political reality, Hungary has taken the role of deterrence against World War III in Europe, acting on the basis of intellect and conscience of a Christian nation.

  • @everTriumph
    @everTriumph 10 місяців тому +4

    So a large number speak Hungarian. Is that their only language, or do they speak Ukrainian or Russian as well? So is Orban going to do a Putin and invade Ukraine? Or force them to move to Hungary?

    • @marisabenson1222
      @marisabenson1222 10 місяців тому

      Yes they said "almost" half so less than 50% . What does that mean? Are they the largest non Ukrainian speaking group? What do the other more than 50% speak? What significance is the language they speak?
      There are many languages spoken in my country but it has no bearing on anything. We have independent media and private schools that can do mostly what they like but it is in the interests of everyone to learn the common language as well and most do.

    • @belaadorian3370
      @belaadorian3370 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marisabenson1222Yes another 50% are on the front line.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому

      Respecting minority rights is a fundamental requirement to join the EU.
      The hungarian minority have been under attack,intimidation,harrassment by ukrainian nationalists,
      cultural establishments monuments have been vandalized constantly.
      They replaced the hungarian principals with ukrainians in every shool,there is new
      bill in parliament that would criminalize the use of hungarian between a doctor and patient.
      How insane is that?Imagine in the USA a doctor not allowed to speak spanish with a patient.
      Besides this minority had lived there before the ukrainian state was established.

    • @soulkrsxxx
      @soulkrsxxx 10 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@marisabenson1222The exact number is 156.000 Hungarian live there.
      The story behind that region being very populated by Hungarians has to to with Treaty of Trianon.
      Where Czechoslovakia revived a chunk of Hungarian land.
      Later own when Czechoslovakia dismembered the land that was cut of Hungary got into USSR hand.
      Than when USSR dismembered back in 1991 that land got into Ukrainian hand.
      Still Hungarian live there and the Hungarian memorials , statues are there. That’s why you can see the city and other things written in Hungarian too.
      Hungary has monuments there that is part of Hungarian history.
      Back in 2012 Ukraine took away its minorities rights one of them was the language. And Hungary didn’t like that.
      They took off Hungarian statues and destroyed memorials.
      And they mistreated Hungarians.
      The bad relationship between Hungary and Ukraine goes as far back as 1956 when Hungary had a revolution against the USSR(first country to have a revolution against USSR) and Ukraine troops took care of the revolution and killed thousands of Hungarians in Budapest.
      Than the most recent ones were the rights of Hungarians.
      Like it’s well known that Hungary and Romania relationship isn’t the greatest since ww1.
      But even they respect Hungarians who live there and memorials till today unlike Ukraine did so far.
      Sure Hungary took an L in ww1 and ww2 but that land was Hungarian for more than 1000 years. So you can imagine the history and memorials, statues, people that is there and they all being discriminated.
      Sure I agree on Orbans points they should make more effort to change they laws to become more a democratic country but I feel like it’s more about how Ukrainian treated Hungary and Hungarians, statues, memorials in the recent years. Than the actual reason what Orban says. Because those reasons can be said for Georgia and Moldova too but you don’t hear him ramping about those two countries only Ukraine.
      Perhaps Orban wants to get those land back in a political way. I’m sure I’m gonna sound nationalist but even in the contract of treaty of Trianon that land supposed to go back to Hungary after 100 years and that treaty was signed 103 years ago. If that would happen Orban and Hungarian would shut up they would be happy. Ukraine wouldn’t for sure but that peace of land never meant to be with Ukraine nor forever being apart of another country.

    • @msmajmia7896
      @msmajmia7896 10 місяців тому

      @@marisabenson1222
      WHAT is your mother language ??? what would you do if one day lets say China would occupy your country and you were forced to speak chinese??? publicly, everywhere...? no matter, right?
      "What significance is the language they speak? "
      it IS HUMAN RIGHT number ONE that you may use the language you were socialized with and by, in your family and surroundings ... NOBODY can deprive you this right!!! for the language you speak determines and shapes your mindset, ANY psychologist may tell you, it is fact.
      The one-of-a-kind Hungarian language is essential to preserve the Hungarian culture that is capable to develop astonishing talents who, by their different approach heavily contribute to entire mankinds progress!!
      just recently 2 Nobel prize winners in one week ... Karikó Katalin and Krausz Ferenc, two ordinary Hungarian scientiscs from plain countryside Hungary...
      it is NOT BY CHANCE, mate
      it is called the highly priced socalled DIVERSITY .... the liberals allegedly fight for ....

  • @gr83172
    @gr83172 10 місяців тому +12

    Orban is simply an instrument in Putler’s hands. All other is mere (lame) excuses.

    • @madmax6827
      @madmax6827 10 місяців тому +1

      You are an instrument in leftist fake news hands. Sad.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +3

      You are blind,the problem is precisely the opposite,that they can’t order Orban around.
      He is pretty independent and hard headed. He said it years ago that it is not a good thing
      to be russia’s neighbor,doesn’t sound like an instrument to me,unlike the propaganda.

    • @gr83172
      @gr83172 10 місяців тому

      @@stogies3 Why isn’t it a good thing to be russia’s neighbour?

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +1

      @@gr83172 Ask them,ask the baltic states,Finland etc.

    • @gr83172
      @gr83172 10 місяців тому

      @@stogies3 because russia is a terrorist state, that is why. It has dangerous imperialistic ambitions.

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 10 місяців тому +5

    Orban, proving that he’s a peasant.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +2

      Well,you are so intellectual

  • @madmax6827
    @madmax6827 10 місяців тому +11

    Transkarpatia was NEVER Ukrainian. It was annexed from Hungary by the USSR after WWII and attached to the Ukrainian SSR administratively. That's why they have so many Hungarians living there, most of whom would rather live in a peaceful Hungary than in a nation at war. It must be returned to Hungary so all can live in peace. They have NO future in Ukraine.

    • @cgallegos2106
      @cgallegos2106 10 місяців тому +2

      Wow…is this the new Sudentanland now? Just forget that it was run as a Czechoslovak state before that, an Austrian Province before that, and a territory of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth before that?
      Hungry controlled it for what? About a sixty years (from the creation of the Dual Monarchy till 1918).

    • @ZoltGz
      @ZoltGz 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rosarosa6353same as in Ukraine my grand grand father was conscripted for the romanian army in 1941 to fight for the German side, a soft ethnic cleansing that goes on since long, but anyway belive whatever you want.

    • @marisabenson1222
      @marisabenson1222 10 місяців тому

      You'll have to go to war with Russia then if Russia wins. Sheez you trolls don't know which horse to back. Or do you think putin will gift it to you for your support? That is amusing.

    • @ZoltGz
      @ZoltGz 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@rosarosa6353against the mongol empire we lost 500.000 people in the countryside in 1241 then the ottoman empire raids and kills entire villages with Hungarians then we are Absorbed into the Habsburg empire wich they of course took advantage of the fall of Hungary, then the revolution in 1848 we won against the Habsburg empire but lost against the Russian empire, Hungary was the first country in Europe that implemented rights for minorities in 1849 , Hungarians also helped end slavery in the civil war of America later on, and guess what our struggles were ignored and 1920 trianon happened in a war we were dragged by the Austrians in wich Hungarians werent even invited to the peace talks, i shouldnt be explaining anything but here you go

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows 10 місяців тому +2

      @@cgallegos2106 It's not Ukrainian. The whole war is about land.

  • @tokajileo5928
    @tokajileo5928 10 місяців тому +5

    it is not a claim. It is a fact. And I live 50 miles form the border with friends and relatives living there.

  • @Ukie88
    @Ukie88 10 місяців тому +1

    Orban is a stooge. Hungarians in Ukraine contradict Orban.

    • @msmajmia7896
      @msmajmia7896 10 місяців тому

      because they have no choice, mate .... WHY do they speak u-krajinian in this report ...?

  • @remember9152
    @remember9152 10 місяців тому +3

    The wokeists, the representants of the darkness are crying. 😁😁😁

  • @theskilllessgamer5795
    @theskilllessgamer5795 10 місяців тому +1

    When Ukraine is in the EU, but Hungary got kicked ut, there wont be open borders, either...

  • @marisabenson1222
    @marisabenson1222 10 місяців тому

    ' almost half speak the language [Hungarian]" so....less than 50%.....so...the majority soeak another language. What other languages are spoken and what is the percentage? Are you saying that of the more than 50% who don't speak Hungarian there are smaller groups that speaknother languages?

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 10 місяців тому

    2:30 - that girl is the future we all want.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 10 місяців тому +5

    "Help! Help! I'm being repressed."
    "No you're not."
    "Oh, what a give away. Did you hear that, did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you?"

    • @nataliiateteruk585
      @nataliiateteruk585 10 місяців тому

      This is how every dictator treats its own. Putin, Trump and Orban comes out of the same wood. Wood in their brains.

    • @gustavalexander8676
      @gustavalexander8676 10 місяців тому

      Right, so forcing poor people to fight because they cannot critisise your government is just awesome to you? You remind me of the kind of unintelligent black/white good/evil type believer who need a simple narrative to believe in. Unfortunatly war was never as simple

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +6

      That is pretty stupid when the facts are that the hungarian minority have been harrassed,intimidated,
      threatened,cultural establishments monuments burned vandalized,try to do any of those in the USA
      or western Europe.

  • @louisesmith4251
    @louisesmith4251 10 місяців тому +5

    Victor, maybe fled to Ukraine to get away from your oppression.

    • @Mrac-zz8vh
      @Mrac-zz8vh 10 місяців тому +1

      Or maybe native to the land but 'territorial integrity' is not a thing for Ukraine when they hold parts of other countries. Just maybe..

  • @6killer426
    @6killer426 10 місяців тому

    Awesome

  • @Reaper9-4
    @Reaper9-4 10 місяців тому +2

    Orban needs to chill tf down and let aid go to ukraine .

    • @madmax6827
      @madmax6827 10 місяців тому +3

      Why? It does not meet the requirements!

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +2

      It should be up to individual countries if they want to chip in,and by the way how much have you donated
      to Ukraine?

    • @theuralictribes5689
      @theuralictribes5689 9 місяців тому

      People like you need to stop being racist Hugnarianophobes and look at the 8 years of persecution of ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine. So giving money to Ukraine is an equivalent of sending money to Hitler and his Nazi Party.

  • @natalieturko4808
    @natalieturko4808 10 місяців тому +2

    Mr Orban, you demand that Hungarians be allowed to attend Hungarian schools in Ukraine. So tell us, when will you open up Ukrainian schools in Hungary so that Ukrainians can study in Ukrainian schools, in Hungary? Is that a problem for you?

    • @belaadorian3370
      @belaadorian3370 10 місяців тому +6

      I realized you have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +6

      There is no ukrainian minority in Hungary,there are thousand of refugees though from
      Ukraine costing the government billions,like free education,housing health care.
      Get your facts straight.

    • @Mrac-zz8vh
      @Mrac-zz8vh 10 місяців тому +2

      This is the EU. Every single ethnic minority that reaches a certain percentage, has an option to study on their mothertong.

    • @msmajmia7896
      @msmajmia7896 10 місяців тому

      Hungary pays u-krajinian teachers for those refugees who decided to stay ...

  • @az55544
    @az55544 10 місяців тому

    it would seem that the wise thing to do, if you are A Large Ethnic Minority, is to go home to where you can be in the Majority. just make it simple for everyone.

    • @gustavalexander8676
      @gustavalexander8676 10 місяців тому

      ethnic cleansing? Classy, pal. I thought all you ukroid supporters had the moral high ground?

    • @belaadorian3370
      @belaadorian3370 10 місяців тому +2

      Transkarpatia is their home.You need to learn history and after that give your opinion.

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +2

      They are at home,they had lived there long before Ukraine became a state.

    • @Mrac-zz8vh
      @Mrac-zz8vh 10 місяців тому +2

      They are at home. The territory was taken away from Hungary by the Soviet union and given to Ukraine. People did not move only borders.

  • @Sajuuk
    @Sajuuk 10 місяців тому +1

    It's interesting to note politicians tend to make rules whereby a single corrupt nation or politician can veto moves made to help tens or even hundreds of millions of people:
    The UN "security Council" which allows Russia and China to veto any decision.
    NATO, same situation.
    European Union, same situation.
    It's almost as if they're incompetent and/or very low IQ...

    • @TheGreenReaper
      @TheGreenReaper 10 місяців тому +2

      Usually the alternative is not having that group exist or be effective in the first place. The nuclear powers have an implicit veto in that if someone does something they don't like, they can nuke it. In the case of NATO, member states want to be sure about not being unilaterally dragged into a war.
      As for the EU, countries subordinate their sovereignty to the extent of EU laws; so if you were one of those, wouldn't you want control over that in the most important areas, like taxes, [foreign] workers' rights and freedom of expression - as well as special cases not provided for under the treaties, like giving a bunch of money to Ukraine? (Articles 19, 113, 115, 153(1)(c), (d), (f) and (g), and 352 TFEU.) In other cases it takes four EU council members to object, or 35% + 1 participating; it doesn't impact everything.

    • @madmax6827
      @madmax6827 10 місяців тому +1

      These are RULES established by the majority. You can't break them just because you disagree.

    • @msmajmia7896
      @msmajmia7896 10 місяців тому

      @@madmax6827 the EU is not a souvereign nation ... it is an institution, paid by souvereign nations to SERVE, rather than rule over them!!!!

  • @undertamssubjective
    @undertamssubjective 10 місяців тому +1

    Ya worring about Russia expansion
    Ukraine may just attempt some kind of land's dispute in these territory! It wouldn't surprise me, because then he could ask for money to retreat... 💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸👤👤👤👤👤💸💸💸💸👤👤👤💸👤👤👤👤👤💸💸👤👤👤👤💸👤👤💸

    • @wanderer2246
      @wanderer2246 10 місяців тому

      AI should try harder, the brainless potatoes like you are not even funny

    • @PanzerFaustFurious
      @PanzerFaustFurious 10 місяців тому

      ?

    • @MP-tz2yn
      @MP-tz2yn 10 місяців тому

      congrats on falling for his troll, how long did it take you to type that, Phil? @@phild3936

    • @stogies3
      @stogies3 10 місяців тому +3

      @@phild3936Your are astonishingly ill informed or just lying,even the Venice Commission agreed
      with Hungary that Ukraine violates minority rights,besides Ukraine has revoked ESTABLISHED RIGHTS.
      Get your facts straight.