Mounting A Motorcycle Tire With Zip Ties! No More Pinched Tubes!
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- How to mount a motorcycle tire using zip ties! Thats right this is a very simple process that makes diy tire mounting much easier as well as preventing pinched tubes while spooning your tires on.
What you need:
- Tire and tube
- Clean rim
- Silicone spray
- Big friggin zip ties (amazon link) - amzn.to/3WT1PTD
- Tire Spoons
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I hope you liked this short video on this trick as it's super helpful! Also, guys I know you can unlock the zip ties but I've found that the amount of tension I you put these under makes releasing them risky as the lock gets deformed. It's a time saver so use it to get the job done.
Risky how?
@@BasicPoke lots of pressure on a small plastic lock. Picking at it is like a 30% success rate for not ruining the lock. Adds like 30 minutes to the job. I don't care about reusing them that bad
Awesome video, do you think velcro straps would work so that you can re-use instead of using up zip ties?
With a very small flat screw driver you can pop open the tang on the zip tie and use it again in the future..
Please see pinned comment
@@BrickHouseBuilds
@o0Hotiron0o
2 days ago
A tire install performed like a gentleman. FYI, we use a very durable releasable cable tie for a number of uses on the railroad from Panduit (Pan-Ty PRT6EH-Q0 Releasable Cable Tie, Black, UV PA6.6, 250lb
Hi Brick House Builds. Great video. I will be trying out this method soon on my GT250. HOWEVER, I'm not so sure about using silicone spray as a lubricant, especially on a rear wheel. My fear is that on a hard acceleration the tyre could slip on the rim and rip out the valve stem. I think I will stick to using tyre mounting paste. Would be interesting to know your thoughts please. Best wishes from the UK !
I've done this many times and have never give it a second thought nor have I had and negative effects. See if anyone exists who has actually had a problem or it's just rumors from those who haven't tried
Oh Yeah!?
Let me see you do that with a Metzler 240/50-16 tire. Hydraulic tire changing machine can BEARLY do the job! It still needs tire irons to help remove and to mount them.
Get a Metzler 888 for the Triumph Rocket 3, and try that, I really wanna see you try.
This video is to help many people in various situations. Sorry your Metzler is a pain in the butt
@BrickHouseBuilds
I hear You!!!
I meant no disrespect, I would just Love to see someone try it. I tried the first time I had to change the rear tire on my Rocket. Over 200 heavy duty zip ties, and a lot of lubricant. Me & My Friends didn't even come close to mounting the tire.🥲
To easy🍻
This time it was!
use a lec screwdriver to open zip ties you dont have to break zipties ttfn&ty
Please see my pinned comment
In over 50 yrs of riding I have only ever had one can of silicone spray ,which I was given. I keep it in a plastic bag way down my backyard and never let it get anywhere near my workshop.I am sure there is a reason it was invented but I havent discovered that yet. You want grip once that tyre is inflated onto rim not a permanent layer of super slippery oil/wax.
I always use dishwashing liquid thinned with water , when it dries it disappears and allows rubber to grip the rim.And I have never used rim locks on road or trail bikes.Also, after using silicone you will never get an emergency patch to stick to it.Ever.
So far so good.
Been doing this for years and no slip. Thanks for watching
Silicone is certainly not "permanent," and you're the only person alive who is so afraid of it that you keep it locked away in a vault far from your house behind layers of earth and lead like it's some kind of radioactive byproduct that will mutate your family... That being said, I also just use dish detergent or Windex because it's cheap, readily available, and gets the job done.
Never to old for an old man of 71 to learn a new trick.!! Thanks for the video. SUPER.
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All these years of tire mounting and I learn from you how simple this could have been….I am blown away…thank you !
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Amazing
Brilliant!
Nothing worse than changing a flat tyre on the road only to discover that I nicked the tube in the process, and have to start again...
This definitely helps avoid that!
What an eye opener! I can't believe it was that easy. All those years of struggling have now come to an end! Thanks man.
It's not normally this easy but it's still drastically better than without zip ties
A tire install performed like a gentleman. FYI, we use a very durable releasable cable tie for a number of uses on the railroad from Panduit (Pan-Ty PRT6EH-Q0 Releasable Cable Tie, Black, UV PA6.6, 250lb
I remember as a kid my neighbor doing this for one of his friends chopper. That was like 45 years ago. Still old techniques save the day.
That's awesome
Pro tip- use honda spray cleaner polish, its not as slippery as silicone. And after your done mounting the tire wipe the rim clean w a microfiber and its nice and polished up. 2 birds w 1 stone 👍
I’ve done that with reusable zip ties. It’s so much easier than just using the spoons.
All zipties are reusable. Just use a knife to pry the locking tab up.
Been doing this even on tires as big as the Hayabusa’s, works effortlessly, love it
The look on your face when the tyre just fell on, PRICELESS 🤣🤣🤣
It went better than normal lol
Old Triumph guy introduced me to P80 rubber assembly lube. Mix 50-50 with water in a spray bottle and use it on beads. Slick as snot but dries out and won't remain slippery. Game changer for tire mounting. Gonna try that zip tie thing.
I should probably grab some of that
DIXON CPLG (DCL20) Lubricant does the same thing.
I have been using zip ties to help change bicycle tires for years now.
you can actually "pick" zip ties to open them without cutting them
Thanks for watching
Making it look easy since 1999!! hehe.
Definitely doing this!
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The other pro-tip in this video is have an old blanket or something to kneel on instead of grinding gravel or dirt into your kneecaps.
Finally somebody on the internet started showing people to use silicone spray to put their tires on been doing this for many decades and have left comments for people to try silicone spray for placing tires on and I always put both sides on at once specially when it has a tube I use a rope or a strap and a stick or a screwdriver to twist them up tight to push them together just like what you're doing with zip ties tried to explain it to people but they just didn't understand but this is a good example on how it works good job maybe now they'll understand
Well it seems like an uphill battle on the silicone. Everyone thinks the world will explode with using to mount a tire
So no tire talc with this method ? I don't like the idea of sillacone on the bead cuz it might make the tire spin on the rim and tear the valve stem
@jacobclark89 I've done this for years with no tire spin. I'm not saying it's never a possibility but it's worked for me and I'll keep doing it that way
@@BrickHouseBuilds do you spray the bead or just the tube
@jacobclark89 bead so it can get onto the rim
They make temporary zip ties with a release button on the latch
Sei que é barato as abracadeiras, mas tem um jeito de soltar e reaproveitar em outras coisas sem precisar cortar.
Abraço
Please see my pinned comment
Awesome bud, in all my years I never thought of this one! 👍
Thank ya!
Okay, I'm impressed.
When you put the tire on all you have to do is slide long sockets down in between the bead and the rim and that'll push the tire down to the center enough for every time that you pull the tire with a spoon the socket makes the tire go down into the center 5 sockets and you can put the last part of the tire on with one finger and a spoon
Like this
Buy removable zip-ties or learn how to pick the locking clip with small screwdriver or blade to reuse the whole zip-tie for future use. Cheers
Please check my pinned comment. The zip ties release became the singular focus of every single viewer unfortunately
@@BrickHouseBuilds LoL. Maybe it was that obvious or everyone is that cheap. :0
Hadn't gone through the comments yet.
But since you mentioned which zips to buy, the releasing type are the ones to get.
Thanks
I can't say anymore than what's already been said below - awesome! Thank you!!!
99% Zip ties can be released 😉
Geez! You make it look so easy! Love how you save on the zip ties, & giving Craig all the credit!
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Good post ! Practical application of simple principals , ' equalizing force ' , uniformity 👍 .
1. Cary a hand towel to remove silicon from the gloves . More controlled spray to the contact areas .
( I know , it's a demonstration .Just to mention for improved technique . / Worse with the wind .
2. Zip tie ' shorts ' can be joined for extended lengths in a need - for - need , right ?
CraZy glue in the hollowed - out boot - heel 🎯
Good health !
Don't you just hate it when some young whippersnapper shows you how to do something that you should have worked out by yourself many years ago? Still, better late than never, Have a subscription for your time and trouble.
Lol never stop learning!
Good tip. I had the biggest trouble removing a tire last time i tried .
Removing them is definitely tough
Boiling water in a thermos softens up everything. Heat up both tire and rim. Also handy for seating the bead. Water is exponentially more heat conductive than hot air. Heat guns can melt your sidewalls but water is harmless.
@@BrickHouseBuilds You can use the zip tie method to remove the tire also. Break the bead, slide the zip ties in.
Auugh flashbacks to those tires. Continental Twins, or "Conti Twins" they were called back in my day, those were the very first tires I replaced on my 1980 CB400T Hawk! Super ironically, the tires I have been using for the past 12 years on my NC700XA, are still kinda "Conti Twins"- Continental TKC80 Twinduros, lol. I had no idea they still made those street tires. Excellent video as always!
This one is a duro brand but yeah pretty timeless tread pattern
@@BrickHouseBuilds The Duros are fine. Have some original Contis from the eighties if anyone wants a display only setup.
This is bloody brilliant. thank you from an Aussie. More how to videos please.
Just check out the playlist!
@@BrickHouseBuilds will do
Worked great! I only need 1/4" ties(much cheaper), and used windex for lube.
The zip ties can be released with small screwdriver and re used! Also china makes re-useable zip ties!!! No way - my tires way tighter to get on than that! i use baby powder and dawn dish soap on the rim..
This has to be tried,- and hopefully no more bruised knuckles...😎
Great method also for the bicycles tires. A remark, never use oil based products for easy install. Use neutral soap, better for the rubber tube on a long term.
A great tip, thanks !
One thing - I would recommend to use a lubricant that breaks down or dries instead. I worry about tire slip ripping the valve out under acceleration or braking.
Been doing this for years and have never had slipping
You are correct. Silicone is inappropriate for tire lube. Who wants the slipperiest substance known to Man on tires. Tire shops have the right stuff for this. Excellent idea though. Thanks for sharing.
I bet this would also work with twine, like jute or hemp, for the cinch straps instead of plastic zip ties
I use pull-type straps instead of zip-ties, there're thinner, wider & reusable
Love the CB750,. I bought one the 2nd year they came out in 1970. Had a blast on that bike for many years. Didn't ride for many years then got a 2008 Yamaha FZ1 and it was the greatest motorcycle I ever rode. Put over 30k miles on it and it was pure joy all over again like the CB 750 was 40 years earlier. Kool video on changing tires with zip ties, first time ever saw this.
One of my 12 is a bought new FZ6. Runs with the litre bikes and still is the horsepower king of all middleweights made then and now, within financial reason. Slightly better looking than the FZ1 but I'm biased for sure.
And, this size zip tie is available with reusable tie points, no need to cut them off !
Great tip bj works great 👍👌🔧🔧🔧❤️
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Doesn't Silicone spray cause wheel slip⁉🤔🤔🤔
Only ever keep hearing that as people asking if it happens. Haven't heard from anyone with actual experience. I've done this for years with no issue
@@BrickHouseBuilds Cool just wondering.👍
You can use a small flat head to push the tab in the lock of the zip tie down and reuse it.
Yup
@@BrickHouseBuilds Also, that was incredibly smooth. I've been gouging my rims for no reason all this time.....
Buy you a bag of the reusable zip ties and you're golden
Oh God; NO!. Silicone lube on the beads is a BAD IDEA. It's waterproof and won't wash off. Breaking forces can rotate the tyre and rip the valve: causing a blowout. Use dish soap or tyre fitters' soap.
Been doing this for years and have never had any slip
BJ rescuing backyard DIY'rs from ourselves 1 video at a time. Thanks bud!
Quick question: I was given a tubeless replacement tire for my bike, but the current tire is running a tube: how hard is it to mount a valve for a tubeless tires and/or should I just put the extra tube I already have inside the new tire and use it like a tubeless tire?
This really depends on your wheel and if it's for tubeless or not. Mags are typically tubeless where spokes always have tubes
If you'd use a wee bit longer ties, you could wrap them twice around and use them again on another tire, just don't cut the head though.
Or a shorter, one might be less expensive ? And I bet you can find something that is reusable, like lashing strap or utility strap, which you'll find on Amazon, etc...
@TruthWielders It's $3 for a pack of these. That will do at least 3 tires. That saves about an hour total which saves about $100 in labor. Using these makes money.
Hi Brick House
Your technique worked well and I barely needed my spoons. Thank you for your excellent suggestion
Glad you found it helpful!
How many bikes uses tube tires today? I guess in off-road, where you might need to deflate a tire for grip, but tube tires, on a road bike, are something I'd avoid like the plague, having felt the difference between a flat at 70 mph/110 kph, with a tube rear tire, literally throwing me off the bike, vs. a feeling of "sloppiness" in the back, with time to realize the problem, and get off the road!!
But, even at that, maybe this technique could be an energy saver in either case.
I'm not sure how the question is relevant actually. There are many tube fitted bikes from the last 100 years that people could use this method on AS WELL AS tubeless. Not about which you prefer as it applies to both
ThanX for the tip. You can make a zip tie release tool by tapping the end of a paper clip or tie wire to flat and running it into the zip tie block, between the locking lug and the zip tie holding end, and push them apart.
Then can reuse the ties.
please see my pinned comment
Don't cut the zip ties😮. Usw, a small screw Driever to unlock the zip ties by pushing the little nose away. This way use the zip ties 10 Times or more
Please see my pinned comment
This has been my go-to method for a while. However, I save and re-use most or all of the zipties. You can use a knife tip or small flathead to pry the little locking tab up and undo zipties.
@@agentelvis81 I know you can do that. It's not worth the time it takes to undo them without damage to me. This method is about saving time
@@BrickHouseBuilds Big zipties got expensive, man! Maybe I'm just a cheapskate heh.
Just used this method on my big 17" cruiser rear wheel/tire. Worked slick! Thanks.
@@LeeKobe1 Awesome 🤘
You don’t have to cut the zip ties. You can release them with a small pic or pocket screw driver.
This is true but for time savings I did it this way
@@BrickHouseBuilds
All good stuff brother. I really enjoyed your channel, keep up the good work 👍🏻
There is no need to cut the ties. Use a small flat head screwdriver and push it between the locking tooth and zip, pulling it away from the locking position. I have been doing that for years. Or alternatively use reusable ties.
Please see my pinned comment
Great trick, thanks! Note: Zip-ties can often be fully salvaged by slipping the tip of a knife between the locking mechanism and the ties - UA-cam it.
Check my pinned comment
I just tried it yesterday and it didn’t work for me. Maybe with deep well rims but definitely not on old Honda’s. With the rear thick tire I couldn’t get it past half way. With the front it got 3/4s the way but the tube kept poking out and getting pinched.
In the amount of time I tried with the zip ties I still got the tires on with the spoons, in the same amount of time with success.
I show it again here on my stock 750 wheel.
ua-cam.com/video/h4AdaL5iTto/v-deo.html
Tip...Zip ties are reusable for the next time if you insert a small flat bladed screwdriver. Use an old zip tie and practice unlocking it advance.
Definitely check out my pinned comment
Thanks for your video. very interesting and helpful. Do you just go with the wheel balance lead that was on it with the previous tyre?
I normally don't balance as these bikes rarely get over 70. Just how I do it on my bikes not saying you should
I used to work on a lot of BMX bikes at some point (my own bikes), I would manhandle the tire and tube onto the rims, I can admit that most of the tubes I put in were not aligned properly. Lol
Of course, all the rims I ever had were far from true, every single one had a little bit of wobble. Lol
(I'd probably die if I let those things slide on a real motorcycle 💀)
The ziptie method works great!, but DON'T USE SILICONESPRAY! that stuff will be in there and especially with an innertube, you take a big risk of both sliding on the rim, while driving! This is simply dangerous in my opinion! Siliconespray takes a long time to evaporate, especially in a closed environment!(if it even does!) Use DISHSOAP WITH WATER INSTEAD! Slides great and dries sticky/hard.
Thanks for watching
Been using silicone spray for 20 years to mount tyres...
Never an issue.
Soapy water corrodes the rims...
You don’t have to sacrifice the zip ties. You get a small flat bladed screw driver and lift up the ratchet lock in the head of the zip tie. We’ve changed tyres like this for years. When airing up, take it halfway to pressure, stand the wheel up and give it a small bounce or two on the floor to seat everything and then blow it up the rest of the way. You can use the same method in reverse to remove the tyre too. Which is why we reuse the zip ties.
Please check my pinned comment
Great method. Thanks for sharing. Is it safe to used silicone on the bead? I was always told to use something water soluble because you don't want a lubricant between the bead and the rim. It may cause the tire to slip against the rim, causing an unsafe condition while braking.
I've been doing this for a long time and have not noticed anything like that
I hate it when non-professionals try to make instructional videos. You put one side of the tire all the way on the rim your stuff your tube in the tire then you put the other half of the tire on the rim 3 Tire irons and some air never waste your zip ties oh yeah I'm 61 been doing my own tires forever and I've never heard of this dumbass stunt it's funny to watch novice and beginners trying to invent their own ways of doing something instead of just doing it the way professionals do it
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for the kind words! 😂
Any experience with a tire slipping on the rim while braking hard because you use silocon spray on the tires?
If the tire will move on the rim only a fraction while braking, the valve of the tube will be torn out immediately. I wouldn't take a chance and have a serious accident just to have less efforts with mounting the tires.
No, been doing this for years and have never had slip. I have got so many comments on this aspect but nobody seems to have actual experience with it
Interesting .. !
Zip ties can be released with a small screwdriver, then you can reuse them.
Check my pinned comment
Don't cut your zip ties. Put a small screwdriver in the back and release the cam that holds the ratchet and they will slide back and you can reuse them. Great if you are on a trail and may need them again.
The tension these have on the tire ruins the lock most of the time. I just clip and move on as it's a time saver
Ok now you showing off, that was way too easy :)
I didn't see him align the valve opposite the (marked) heavy point of the tyre...
There is no marked point on this tire
If you don't have silicone Windex has always worked well for me.
Windex works good!
Scratched knuckles the easy way.
There´s a trick to unlock the zip ties, the small ones are really cheap but lurge ones are worth the time.
@@fernandosibecas3492 please see my pinned comment
Tip: With zip ties that large it's easy to use a pick to release the locking tab to undue and save the entire zip tie for reuse.
see my pinned comment
I wished I would have known that trick yrs ago. Try dry Teflon spray instead of silicone.
Hopefully it works well for you
That worked great
My luck would be the zip tie cutting the tube as I pulled it out
The zip tie shouldn't even be making contact with the tube as you remove them. The tube should be further up in the tire
Use velcro strips and reuse
The viewers should be reminded not to get the silicone anywhere near the brake rotor
Normally you know to wipe things off
Most zip ties can be released if you push down on the lock tab.
Please see my pinned comment
You can save the whole zip tie if you use a small pointed tool to release the cog in the zip ties.
Please see my pinned comment 🙏 thanks for watching
When that tire popped onto the rim without using spoons you should have looked straight into the camera and said, "I'M BATMAN."
I would have believed you.
🤣🤣 that was a missed opportunity for sure
Its easy to unlock zip ties with a pic so you don't have to cut them.
See my pinned comment
Very small flathead, you can unlock ties to re-use.
Please see my pinned comment 😅
You can take a pick tool and pull down on the zip tie flap and pull out the zip tie in tact and reuse them over and over.
Please see my pinned comment
This is great, thank you! Wouldn't the silicone cause the beads to slip around the rim after the tire is mounted? I've had trouble with my front tire ripping the valve stem out of my tires. Does the silicone dry to help it stick?
I keep hearing this in rumor form, yet nobody has said they have actual experience with it. I've done this for years with no issue so I will continue to do it this way with silicone
@@BrickHouseBuilds I'll give it a try and see what happens. About due for some new tires. Thanks.
Will this work on the more modern tires like the Shinko 712's?
Of course
Done that to a few Times 👌🌹
Does all that silicone promote slipping of the tire on the rim.. the opposite of bead locks
I’d imagine it stays in the tire forever.. I’d suggest good old water and a bit of soap… water eventually dries and disappears
Everyone keeps bringing this up but have not has anyone say they have direct experience with that happening. I've done this for years with no issue.
Thanks
Really enjoy your channel!
Thanks a lot!
By the way, is it a Heidenau tire and tube?
@@carlnapp4412 It's a Dunlop front and Avon rear
True magic, I like this a lot. I'll try this once I've got a new tube after pinching one today. So it's beer in the garden today looking at a bike with no front wheel. Bugger.
Motocross tires and beadlocks.
Maybe...no zips near the lock?
Get the lock first, then the rest inane shot? 🤔
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@@BrickHouseBuilds
Oops...
The rim locks on motocross wheels.
The zips would probably be a problem.
Zip ties can be easily released without cutting
Please see the pinned comment
Is there any risk of the tires slipping on the rim? Also what brand of tires are those? They look good.
@wayne3340 Well 10,000 people have said it's a bad idea for silicone in the comments but I've yet to have any issues in the years I've been doing it. 🤷♂️. These are duros
@@BrickHouseBuilds Good to hear. Thanks for the answer.
BJ, I hate to keep asking this question but I still cannot find the gas tank petcock plug for my 750 Honda or my Kawasaki Z1. Can you tell me the exact name of the plug from Amazon? Very good info about the tires.
What do you mean by plug?
@@BrickHouseBuilds The cap that you used for the tank where the petcock goes when you have to clean it out
I'm not what thread you have but you could Google what you have and search for that thread as a cap
I'll just throw those zip tie pieces in the, "Never going to use again hardware drawer."