Lithuanian vs Latvian | Can they understand each other? | Episode 2

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  • In this video, we continue exploring similarities and differences between Lithuanian and Latvian, examining the factors that contribute to their mutual intelligibility. Through engaging language challenges, we aim to showcase the linguistic connections and enhance our understanding of these unique languages.
    Latvian and Lithuanian are two remarkable Baltic languages with deep historical roots and unique linguistic features. Latvian is the official language of Latvia, spoken by the majority of the population, while Lithuanian holds the distinction of being one of the oldest Indo-European languages still in use today. Both languages have retained archaic elements from their ancient origins, making them fascinating subjects of linguistic study.
    Mutual intelligibility refers to the ability of speakers of closely related languages to understand each other to varying degrees without prior knowledge or extensive exposure.
    Although Latvian and Lithuanian share some similarities due to their shared ancestry, they are separate languages with their own distinct grammar, vocabulary, and pronunciation. While speakers of one language may recognize certain words in the other, the mutual intelligibility between them is limited, hindering effortless communication.
    Despite their linguistic differences, Latvian and Lithuanian foster a sense of cultural solidarity in the Baltic region, showcasing the diversity and richness of language within the European continent.
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  • @silencestation557
    @silencestation557 Рік тому +281

    Both of the languages are so fascinating. They have a special place in my heart since Latvia and Lithuania are our dear Baltic neighbours and friends 😊. Greetings from 🇪🇪!

    • @EeeEee-bm5gx
      @EeeEee-bm5gx Рік тому +5

      ❤❤❤

    • @valeriademontmartre
      @valeriademontmartre Рік тому +19

      🇪🇪❤🇱🇻❤🇱🇹

    • @Gutukas
      @Gutukas Рік тому +5

      ❤❤❤

    • @ugnikalnis
      @ugnikalnis Рік тому +4

      Elagu Baltimaad 🇪🇪!!! Lithuania 🇱🇹 ♥️ 🇪🇪

    • @ugnikalnis
      @ugnikalnis Рік тому +4

      Actually mutual word 💯
      Kirvis Cervez Kirves

  • @henriksmatiassnilsens
    @henriksmatiassnilsens Рік тому +181

    Thank you Norbert for the great opportunity to participate in this challenge 😄

    • @Ecolinguist
      @Ecolinguist  Рік тому +11

      My pleasure 😊

    • @antrakirsone2992
      @antrakirsone2992 Рік тому +9

      Man ļoti patika tava dalība, jo laba latviešu valoda ❤

    • @povilzem
      @povilzem Рік тому +15

      Regarding the last word.
      I think we don't actually have a word for just "bag".
      "Maišas" is a sack. Like a burlap sack of potatoes or a plastic bag for garbage.
      A leather handbag that ladies would carry is "rankinė".
      A backpack is "kuprinė".
      A suitcase is "lagaminas".
      A basket is "krepšys".
      But a general bag... Google says it translates into "maišas", but no one is going to consider a maišas to be an accessory (unless you're Lady Gaga), no one would put books into a maišas (unless it's for burning), and the teachers would call social services if they saw a kid bring a maišas to school instead of a backpack.

    • @Filantrops
      @Filantrops Рік тому +3

      It is unusual to see a fellow Latvian named same as me. It is a very rare name in Latvia! 😉
      We could have conversation in all three languages that you can and I can speak to Norbert in his native language as well!
      Great content! Keep up the good job!

    • @henriksmatiassnilsens
      @henriksmatiassnilsens Рік тому

      @@Filantrops it is a rare name indeed, do you know Norwegian as well?

  • @KSfreaky
    @KSfreaky Рік тому +133

    i'm a lithuanian and i believe that if we had more exposure to latvian language we could pick it up quite fast, but as things are right now, it's is not that easy. also, i think i did better than justinas, because i could read the subtitles :).

    • @johnsun3854
      @johnsun3854 Рік тому +21

      I'm Latvian and I agree with both of your points.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому +12

      Latvian language lessons in Lithuanian schools and vice versa could be a graet help. At least as a facultative option for willing ones.

    • @KSfreaky
      @KSfreaky Рік тому +7

      @@fidenemini111 at least more tv shows and movies.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому +3

      @@KSfreaky Yes! With original soundtrack and subs.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Рік тому +1

      Can this guy not find any latvian!?!?!?!?!?!?! To try to understand other languages and dialects based on a language you already know you need MASTERY of the language you already know to stand any chances.
      First he finds a russijan who doesnt use latvian enough to be a master of it, then he find an outlander who speaks the language only with his parrents and thus doesnt use it enough to be a master of it!
      I EASILY answered EVERY SINGLE QUESTION hes asked in this series and these 'fake' "latvians" cant, and that is expected for unlike me they are not masters of my language.
      Im gona have to assume you are as unable to find proper speakers of other languages and gona have to unsubscribe because asking learners if they can understand related languages is a WASTE OF TIME.

  • @arnasLT.
    @arnasLT. Рік тому +8

    Lithuanian and Latvian started diverging in the 6th-7th century, up until then we spoke one Baltic language. It has been ~1500 years since the languages separated and are not mutually intelligible. Yet, with practice both Latvians and Lithuanians can learn each others' languages very quickly as the fundaments are very much the same. My grandmother from Biržai who had a physical trauma in her youth and was admitted to a hospital in Riga learned Latvian to a fairly high level in 3 months and could easily converse with Latvians whenever she went to Latvia.
    I do hope there's more interchange between the languages and people of both Balt nations. We used to co-operate much more during the interwar period and I hope that becomes a norm again.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ 10 місяців тому

      it's still wild to me that in Lithuania one can easily watch many Polish channels, but no Latvian ones on TV. I understand that Polish channels are for Polish Lithuanians, but I would still like to see something from Latvia as well.

  • @wavyseahill
    @wavyseahill Рік тому +127

    It would be great to see the discussion between other language speakers from Latvia and Lithuania, for example Latgalians, Livi, Prussians and Samogitians.

    • @jammmy30
      @jammmy30 Рік тому +25

      Prussians? Are there people that still speak the actual Prussian (Baltic) language?

    • @joelthorstensson2772
      @joelthorstensson2772 Рік тому +19

      @@jammmy30 Some people are trying to revive it.

    • @jammmy30
      @jammmy30 Рік тому +1

      @@joelthorstensson2772oh… were? Germany? Lithuania? Interesting

    • @wavyseahill
      @wavyseahill Рік тому +18

      ​@@jammmy30It's very rare I guess, but as far as I have red, there are some Revived Prussian speakers in Lithuania, Poland, Germany and Koenigsberg.
      But this would really be interesting, because as far as I understand, a lot of words have same roots.

    • @kodekadkodekad4380
      @kodekadkodekad4380 Рік тому +8

      @@jammmy30 There are definitely attempts to revive the language, and I know that some children are even taught it, but how fluent these people are I don't know. In any case it would be fantastic if one could join a mutual intelligibility experiment here.

  • @haardkaar
    @haardkaar Рік тому +88

    I'm a native Swedish and Finnish speaker. I've always found that Latvian is sort of a gateway to Lithuanian. As Latvian has a lot of Germanic and Finno-Ugrian influences. I've met a bunch of Latvian and Lithuanian exchange students when I was in the University and they said the languages were close but could not really understand eachother.
    I was quite dumbstruck in a taxi in Latvia when the taxameter read 'maksa', which is fee/fare in both Finnish and Estonian. I noted in this video about the lion (and king-dom) which in finno-ugric has a straight borrowing in the form of Kuningas and Lithuanian has something like Karalis, which cognates with Hungarian Király. Then pleca or something meaning shoulder and in Polish that would be back, hench the guess back pack. Such a clusterfuck, and I love it. =D

    • @ioannakatovskaja9218
      @ioannakatovskaja9218 Рік тому +6

      Tere, mina olen Eestist, aga elan Soomes!
      Moi, minä olen Virosta, mutta asun Suomessa!
      Привет, я из Эстонии, но живу в Финляндии!

    • @NottinghamForest24
      @NottinghamForest24 Рік тому +11

      Pleca in polish mean Back while in Russian mean Shoulders pleci(плечи)

    • @Oberschutzee
      @Oberschutzee Рік тому +1

      has alot of russian and east slavic influeance

    • @Oberschutzee
      @Oberschutzee Рік тому +4

      Lithuanian language has some influence from fino Ugric languages but a lot less than Latvian

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +11

      Fun fact, in Lithuanian "kunigas" means "priest" and "kunigaikštis" means "duke".

  • @tymbark91
    @tymbark91 Рік тому +32

    Basically the main misunderstanding in this case was that fact that word for animal aren't cognates. Both word 'dzīvnieks' and 'gyvunas' are neologisms. Although they has same root "dzīv- / gyv-" (different because of palatalization, however identifiable) each word has its unique suffix (-niek- ; -un-). And that is why thеse words seems to be dissimilar, because of different suffixes. For sure using older word for animal 'zvērs' and 'žvėris' would make conversation more understandable. Obviously these words and their synonyms for domastic animals: 'lops' and 'luopas', 'luobas' are more mutually intelligible, however, their use has become more passive due to neologisms.

    • @masia6255
      @masia6255 Рік тому +3

      Interesting, in Ukrainian "zvir" means "animal"

    • @Robertoslaw.Iksinski
      @Robertoslaw.Iksinski Рік тому +6

      Latvian "zvērs' and Lithuanian 'žvėris' are very old words, which are more understandable not only for Balts, the same as their Slavic equivalents: Polish "zwierzę" and Czech "zvíře". It means that these universal words come from the times of Balto-Slavic community.

    • @daniellin5373
      @daniellin5373 Рік тому +2

      @@Robertoslaw.Iksinski I've learnt some Russian and "zhivotnoye" is quite different, but well the first two consonants are similar. The vowels and the endings should have been changed a lot. I'm not sure if it's related to the verb "to live" - "zhit'"? I'm not very familiar with Slavics and have almost zero understandings on Baltics though.

    • @johnsmith-qc8ud
      @johnsmith-qc8ud Рік тому +4

      @@daniellin5373 "zhivotnoye" is animal in Russian, but there's a word "зверь" - zver' which is totally related to those above and has a meaning close to animal or beast.

    • @Robertoslaw.Iksinski
      @Robertoslaw.Iksinski Рік тому +2

      @@daniellin5373 In Polish "zwierzę" (as official animal) also comes from "zwierz" (as beast). And also exists Polish "żyjątko" and Czech "živočich", which come from verb "żyć" (to live) or noun "život" (life), but in Czech and Polish these synonyms are less official than "zvíře" and "zwierzę".

  • @pavelrumiantsau8891
    @pavelrumiantsau8891 Рік тому +32

    I’m Belarusian, but live in Lithuania. It was really interesting since I understand a lot even without knowing most words. Sometimes text confused me more 😅

    • @helloitsme8265
      @helloitsme8265 Рік тому +3

      Ngl same, I was confused how I got all 4 words, while the guys struggled a lot. Must be the magic of subtitles

  • @purple_purpur7379
    @purple_purpur7379 Рік тому +82

    from these two videos we can conclude that they would be much better at this game if they knew each other's words for animal

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому +1

      To me it was not difficcult to understand that dzīvnieks and gyvūnas are of the same root.

    • @naktisnaktiss9880
      @naktisnaktiss9880 Рік тому +1

      Would be much easier if you could see the subtitles of the other language written.

  • @Suris69xxx
    @Suris69xxx Рік тому +74

    please do a video with latgalian, samogitian, latvian and lithuanian speakers

    • @antrakirsone2992
      @antrakirsone2992 Рік тому +3

      ❤❤❤

    • @divo1876
      @divo1876 Рік тому +5

      Latgalian is more similar to lithuanian, samogitian to Latvian.

    • @mitchellbitzky2799
      @mitchellbitzky2799 Рік тому +5

      @@divo1876Latgalian may be considered a dialect of Latvian, and Samogitian a dialect of Lithuanian, but they are closer to each other than the official languages.

    • @ugnikalnis
      @ugnikalnis Рік тому

      💯 I AGREE pls do it.

    • @ievazvargulis8869
      @ievazvargulis8869 6 місяців тому

      I would find the above suggestion absolutely fascinating. I would be happier if the similar languages(as mentioned) would be considered separate languages instead of dialects. Is there any way to receive a text if the suggestion about latgalian, samogitan, Latvian and Lithuanian as a program is produced and shown.

  • @zuzannatruba
    @zuzannatruba Рік тому +39

    Aww, thanks for this video! It is tricky for me as a Latvian to understand spoken Lithuanian in most cases, because the pronunciation is quite different, but it's easier when I see it written- then I can look at the writing and pronounce it differently in my head (and disregard different word endings). It is a strange feeling, it's hard to explain - I feel like I "understand" them, but not the actual words, if that makes any sense at all - like talking to a relative who's talking incoherently, because they're drunk or have dementia, but you love them anyway, and you understand them in some other way :D

    • @mildapupsyte
      @mildapupsyte Рік тому +5

      Hahah! Lithuanian a drunk relative, sounds about right! Mes uz Lietuva! 🤣💃🏻🍻

    • @justass
      @justass Рік тому +2

      I understand your pain my friend. Lets say when I listen to Tautumeitas - Raganu Nakts (btw beautiful folk songs) it's like I hear some understandable words, but at the end I know that Ligo is "lygiadienis" aka "midsummer"

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому +2

      @@justass, but midsummer is not lygiadienis. It is the longest day / shortest night event (ilgiausia diena / trumpiausia naktis). Līgo (Linguo) is linguoja or linguok. Latvians write o where they say uo. And sulyginti is salīdzināt. So you see that it is easy to learn Latvian, but not THAT easy.

    • @Gutukas
      @Gutukas Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @zuzannatruba
      @zuzannatruba Рік тому +2

      @manometras About the pronunciation of "o" in Latvian: there are several. In old words it will be "uo": like in "ola" (egg), "koks" (a tree), also "Līgo" (the word you sing during the midsummer night, which is "Jāņu nakts" - the night of Johns (plural)). In words that have been taken from other languages, the "o" is pronounced as "oooo" instead: "radio", "robots" (a robot), "borščs" (borshch).

  • @jhargh12234
    @jhargh12234 9 місяців тому +3

    I am native Latvian speaker and I have also learned Lithuanian. I would say that before any preparation it's quite hard for Latvian to understand spoken Lithuanian, but it's easier with written Lithuanian. The reason behind for it is that Lithuanian uses stressed accent where word can be stressed also in middle or end. In Latvian word stress is always on the beginning of word. That really makes more difficult to understand until you have become used to it.
    Learning some basic vowel and consonant shift between Latvia and Lithuanian helps a lot (c->k dz->g uo->an). Also I can suggest for Latvians to read more some older texts in Latvian like folk tales, sometimes they contain more archaic words which help to understand Lithuanian more.
    For those who wonder how close exactly are Latvian and Lithuanian I would say that for comparison they are more distinct than various Slavic languages are between each other, but more similar than English and German which are both from common Germanic language branch.

  • @pauls.s
    @pauls.s Рік тому +103

    As a Latvian, I have to admit that in the last task Henriks really gave hints in such a way that any Lithuanian speaker could really think that it was a "backpack".
    Justinas was thinking in the very right direction, very close.
    I really wanted him to say the right word)
    I would give him half a point for this task)
    It can be seen that in the end the guys got used to each other's languages and began to understand each other better.
    I think this is a really good method if a Lithuanian wants to communicate with a Latvian)
    Not rushing and asking questions.
    Then the general meaning of the sentence can be understood.
    I see in the comments section that some foreigners have the impression that Latvian and Lithuanian are very different.
    Not quite so, guys.
    What is confusing is the different phonetics.
    Therefore, it is not easy to perceive a language when you hear it.
    But if, for example, a Latvian and a Lithuanian send text messages to each other, they will understand each other better.
    Because in this way you can see the common roots of words.
    For example, visually it may seem that the words "Ozols" and "Ąžuolas" are different, but if you take your time and read carefully, you can see a common root, and in both languages this word means "Oak tree".
    Of course,there are words of non-Baltic origin in our languages, just as there are Germanisms and words of Finno-Ugric origin in Latvian.
    But I would not overestimate their influence on the language.
    There are many words with a common root in the Latvian and Lithuanian languages.
    Which only confirms that we were one community in ancient times.
    Novēlu visu to labāko mūsu kaimiņiem lietuviešiem🇱🇻👊🇱🇹

    • @ernisj.8087
      @ernisj.8087 Рік тому +20

      Mes lietuviai taip pat linkim viso gero savo kaimynam latviam!👍

    • @audriusfrankonis6862
      @audriusfrankonis6862 Рік тому +6

      No kidding about the writing - I specifically avoided reading the Latvian subtitles for this one, and it felt so much more difficult than the last time.

    • @povilzem
      @povilzem Рік тому +4

      The problems start when you recognise a word, but it doesn't mean quite exactly what you know it should mean.
      For example, you go to a tourist place, see written "viešu nams". It's supposed to meen "guest house", but in Lithuanian "viešnamis" (literally the same words, only glued together) means BROTHEL.
      And you point, you laugh, and the locals look at you like you're crazy, but you don't care, because Latvian is hilarious.

    • @pauls.s
      @pauls.s Рік тому +9

      @@povilzem
      it's really funny😄
      I will remember this fact))
      It is also interesting with the words “moose “and “deer”)
      Deer in Latvian will be "briedis", in Lithuanian
      “elnias”.
      in Lithuanian moose will be "briedis", but instead in Latvian "alnis".

    • @povilzem
      @povilzem Рік тому +2

      @@pauls.s I see no problem here. Big forest thing with horns is big forest thing with horns.

  • @alfia6690
    @alfia6690 Рік тому +5

    One of the reasons I love this channel is because it is clearly not staged like some other channels in which the players seem to miraculously understand each other. The best!

  • @naurisss
    @naurisss Рік тому +13

    Great video! Just to mention to all the cocky Latvians in the comments saying how could Henriks not guess the words. Guys, you won't believe, but Henriks did not have written text in front of him like you did. Isn't that crazy?
    I'm myself both Latvian and Latgalian speaker, and Latgalian pronunciation is somewhat similar to Lithuanian one, and yet for me it sounds like gibberish most of the time. (If I'm not seeing the text of course.)
    Additionally, languages are "false friends", so quite often you hear a word, that has a completely different meaning, even if you understand It.

  • @stuh9584
    @stuh9584 Рік тому +15

    Really enjoy hearing Latvian and Lithuanian, would love more of this comparison!

  • @milana0710
    @milana0710 Рік тому +60

    Hello 👋🏻 I am Lithuanian and for me it is hard to understand latvian by hearing :3 but written text is easier

    • @jajaja922
      @jajaja922 Рік тому +4

      As Latvian gonna tell you a secret. I can understand Samagotian, its really drunk Lithaunian speaking Latvian. Love braļukas.

    • @milana0710
      @milana0710 Рік тому +2

      @@jajaja922 :3 Mylime broliuką :3

    • @themadmannn
      @themadmannn Рік тому +4

      ​@@jajaja922 Likewise - for me as a Lithuanian it is easier to understand Latgalian rather than regular Latvian. It would be really interesting to see a conversation between Samogitian and Latgalian.

  • @Arissef
    @Arissef Рік тому +12

    As a Lithuanian who never formally studied Latvian, I simply read a bit about Latvian and learned about the specificities of the Latvian phonology and sound changes. And that, for the most part, is enough to understand much more of Latvian. Also, you have to get into the habit of identifying cognates that have come to be used a bit differently and suddenly it all makes much more sense.
    The Latvian "dzivnieks" is made by taking the root "dziv-" (alive, living) and appending the suffix "-nieks" to it, producing the word "animal", literally "a living one, a living thing".
    In Lithuanian, "dziv-" corresponds to "gyv-" and the suffix "-nieks" to "-ininkas". So "dzivnieks" is equivalent to "gyvininkas" but that word is not used in Lithuanian. However, we have this suffix in words like "vaistininkas" (a pharmacist) < "vaistai" (drugs, medicine); "jūrininkas" (a sailor) < "jūra" (a sea) etc.
    In Lithuanian, on the other hand, the word for animal was built by taking "gyv-" and appending "-ūn-" to it, thus "gyvūnas" (an animal). We could also say "gyvis" (a creature, an animal, a being), though used more rarely.
    As for "zvērs", "žvėris" these are ancient words that mean "a (dangerous) beast" and they are not used to mean just any "animal". These words have cognates in Slavic (Russian "zver") and Ancient Greek θήρ, θηρίον (ther, therion) and Latin "ferus" (think "feral").

  • @Omnatten9
    @Omnatten9 Рік тому +21

    The Latvian guy is mainly struggling because of the Lithuanian pronounciation, if he were to read it, he would have understood much more. Great vid!

    • @wavyseahill
      @wavyseahill Рік тому +3

      The same applies to Latvian pronunciation. But to my mind, main problem here was that guys expected more specific words.

    • @Omnatten9
      @Omnatten9 Рік тому +4

      @@wavyseahill yeah and I also think that too much information was provided and it's hard to understand exactly what you need to focus on

    • @wavyseahill
      @wavyseahill Рік тому +7

      ​​@@Omnatten9yes! Actually I would guess the last word as backpack and I am Latvian. I also understand Lithuanian, so it feels like watching this with cheats. 😁

    • @Omnatten9
      @Omnatten9 Рік тому +1

      @@wavyseahill o forši, savējais

    • @wavyseahill
      @wavyseahill Рік тому +1

      ​​​@@Omnatten9piekritīsi ka Henriks, lai arī runā diezgan tīrā un pareizā Latviešu valodā, tomēr tā izruna ir samērā specifiska, tāda kā "slinki neizteiksmīga"? Latvieši saprot protams, bet domāju ka pat daļa vietējo drusku iespringtu, lai visu saprast.

  • @arnoldtuber
    @arnoldtuber Рік тому +7

    Thank you! Respect from Ukraine! I was in Vilnius and Riga at The Prodigy live gigs in 2016

  • @takforalt
    @takforalt Рік тому +29

    Thanks again, Norbert, for doing another challenge on the Baltic languages of Indoeuropean origin. This might be difficult to set up, but a challenge between Lithuanian and Sanskrit might be interesting since Lithuanian has changed the least from its Indo-European roots and has many similarities to Sanskrit.

    • @Vaidelotelis
      @Vaidelotelis Рік тому +3

      No, Lithuanian doesn't have more similarities to Sanskrit than any other Indo-European languages. I have no idea where this myth came from but it's simply wrong. Sanskrit is a dead Indian language just like Latin in Europe. Because they are both Indo-European languages, they have some similarities with all modern Indo-European languages but nowhere near being mutually comprehensible. Lithuanian (and Latvian) objectively is much closer linguistically to all Slavic and Germanic languages than it is to the dead language of Sanskrit. The examples of words that are usually given that are similar in Lithuanian and Sanskrit (Dievas, dūmai) are not unique to Lithuanian. Both words are similar in not only Latvian but also many other Indo-European languages (Dios in Romance languages, dym in Slavic languages) etc etc

    • @Vaidelotelis
      @Vaidelotelis Рік тому +3

      Also, it's wrong that Lithuanian has changed the least. It depends on what you consider as change. A Lithuanian speaker of today would not be able to easily communicate with a Lithuanian speaker from 800 years ago let alone a proto Indo-European or Sanskrit speaker from thousands of years ago. The Lithuanian grammar has some archaic structures and the roots of some words haven't changed greatly since the proto Indo-European times but the pronunciation has changed a lot and it keeps changing., Lithuanian is not an ancient language. It's a modern language just like all modern living languages but it has preserved arguably a little bit more ancient structures and words than others.

    • @takforalt
      @takforalt Рік тому +1

      @@Vaidelotelis I said nothing wrong, also.

    • @takforalt
      @takforalt Рік тому

      However, I should have stipulated the least change of the European side of the Indo-European family.

    • @550077
      @550077 Рік тому +1

      @@Vaidelotelis "It's a modern language just like all modern living languages but it has preserved arguably a little bit more ancient structures and words than others." - this is what "changed the least" actually means.

  • @ColdBeer
    @ColdBeer 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm Lithuanian, but once in Positivus fest in Latvia I was drunk so much that I started to understand Latvian for real. Me and 3 Latvians had no problems conversatng xD Although we used a lot of gestures and pointing as well lol

  • @alexgrigorievs7497
    @alexgrigorievs7497 Рік тому +13

    It was extremely interesting to me. Of course, I understood all Lithuanian words, and knew all Latvian. But then I know Latvian and have, very long time ago and very superficially, studied Lithuanian. The description of the last word was indeed suggestive of a backpack.

  • @manometras
    @manometras Рік тому +13

    I understand both because I am Lithuanian, and I learned Latvian.

  • @victoradam8485
    @victoradam8485 Рік тому +14

    totally fascinating! as a native czech speaker i can pick up an occasional cognate (eg: plece in czech is shoulder, but mostly a butcher's term -- archaically/poetically human shoulder), but on the whole LT an LV are so different... i was fortunate to visit Latvia a couple of times, and i was told of the german and finnic influence, but to actually see how mutually unintelligible LT and LV are is fascinating!

    • @mordegardglezgorv2216
      @mordegardglezgorv2216 Рік тому +1

      Russian is here. I picked up these words ( Russian words in the second place):
      cilveki - chelovek (people)
      parnesatu - perenosit’ (to bring)
      izgatovots - Izgotovliat’ (to produce)
      visos - vse ( everything )
      bega- begat’ ( to run)
      teka- tech ( to flow)
      Lithuanian «zemuma» as «lowland» also cognate (?) with Russian «zemlya» as «ground»

    • @mordegardglezgorv2216
      @mordegardglezgorv2216 Рік тому

      @@leonvotstavke8888 я тоже всю жизнь думал, что балтские языки ближе к немецким. Возможно, этому способствовал культурно-пропагандистский фокус в России, который традиционно причисляет балтов к друзьям немцев. И люди в России заложники этого штампа

    • @KaZiK_LT
      @KaZiK_LT Рік тому

      @@mordegardglezgorv2216 @leonvotstavke8888 вы не представляете сколько общих слов у литовцев и беларусов :) мои русские коллеги были в шоке на курсах по литовскому от этого факта. и почти все признались, что их учили, что беларуская мова(как и украинская) это просто неправильный русский :D а оказалось, что это, мягко говоря, вообще не так :D

    • @mordegardglezgorv2216
      @mordegardglezgorv2216 Рік тому +1

      @@KaZiK_LT я специально пробежался с карандашом и даже из небольшой по объему речи литовца вычленил примерно дюжину общих с русским корней, не считая банальных местоимений, числительных вопросов. Так что ваша национально окрашенная попытка преподнести белорусский как особо славянский язык впротивовес варварско-татарскому русскому обречена на неудачу. Хотя допускаю, что у белорусов чуть больше пересечений с литовским в силу долгого совместного проживания, но не думаю, что это какая-то особо значимая величина

    • @KaZiK_LT
      @KaZiK_LT Рік тому

      @@mordegardglezgorv2216 я нигде не говорил об особо славянском беларуском или, тем более, о вашем варварско-татарском русском. всего-лишь сказал, что есть люди в русских селениях 20-30+ лет которые верят в сказку о неправильном русском на землях беларуси и украины. но как-то странно отрицать факт того, что ваши цари-царицы немецких кровей напихали в язык словей немецких, голандских, французских и прочих да так что остальные славяне перестали его понимать. ну беларусы и правда дольше жили с литовцами и поляками и языки имеют множество схожих, местами до степени смешения, слов. Но вам, видать, все это глаз колет да под короной от этого свербит. Ну бывает...

  • @olgad5928
    @olgad5928 Рік тому +15

    Love seing more Baltic languages! This time I guessed both Lithuanian word correct, which makes me feel I can understand a bit more of Lithuanian. 😂

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому +2

      Such experiments ar really educational for both language speakers.

  • @justrds
    @justrds Рік тому +8

    It's unbelievable how the guys from Latvia can't understand the meaning. I speak latvian and I understood both words in this and previous episode 😮

  • @JYHRO0
    @JYHRO0 Рік тому +12

    Very interesting. I knew nothing of either languages except their existence. Now I see that they obviously have things in common but not to the point of intelligibility. Surprising that they could diverge so much while being neighbours. It’s fascinating.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +4

      the divergence seemed to have historically accelerated during the time when Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Livonian order on current Latvian territory was founded. Basically the border between Lithuania and Latvia remain unchanged for such a long time respective language communities didn't really interact extensively.

    • @MostIntelligentMan
      @MostIntelligentMan Рік тому +1

      doesnt surprise me, cause latvia was under livonian occupation since 13th century, while lithuania preserved its independence till like 18th century

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому

      @@MostIntelligentMan, but most differences in languages came not from that fact, and they came hundreds of years earlier. Latvian was first influenced more by Finno-ugric languages.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому

      @@manometras Yes., keeping in mind that split from the common dialect began in 6-7 century which is almost 1,5 thousand years ago.

  • @B0K1T0
    @B0K1T0 Рік тому +8

    I don't have any knowledge about Baltic languages so it was very interesting for me to learn that these two languages are quite different and to see if I could make some sense of it (unsurprisingly almost none).

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ 10 місяців тому

      I think it's fair to say that Latvian and Lithuanian are as similar as Dutch and English

  • @agnesep331
    @agnesep331 Рік тому +8

    As a Latvian, I tried listening to the Lithuanian, and it was very hard in the beginning to perceive any separate words. Latvians has the stress on the first syllable of every word and I think it makes it easier for anyone to separate the words when hearing them without knowing the language. I think that the Lithuanian free stress on other syllables makes it so hard for Latvians to understand it - we don't know where each word starts or ends :D
    About the last word, from reading the Lithuanian comments it seems that the misunderstanding was actually due to intricacies of this specific word - in Latvian, "soma" is a generic term for any kind of bag, from handbag, purse, to backpack or tote bag. "Maišas" in Lithuanian is equivalent to "Maiss" in Latvian - a tote bag, a sack (for potatoes, sugar etc.), a garbage bag or simply a plastic/paper bag you carry your groceries in. My guess is, Lithuanian doesn't have such a generic word for bag as the Latvian "Soma", that's where the confusion whether it's a backpack or purse came from.

    • @RSkrabiene
      @RSkrabiene Рік тому +2

      Taip, mes neturime bendro žodžio , kaip "soma" . Tai gali būti "krepšys" arba "tašė" , kaip " die Tasche" vokiškai, nors vokiškai tai reiškia "kišenė".

    • @litrabolas11
      @litrabolas11 Рік тому +1

      @@RSkrabiene gal rankine arba rankinukas ne lietuviski zodziai kad jau uzmirsai tokius esant

    • @litrabolas11
      @litrabolas11 Рік тому +1

      Latvian Soma in Lithuanian is rankine or rankinukas- handbag or a purse

    • @ak5659
      @ak5659 Рік тому +1

      Your last sentence.... lack of generic word. I once had a rather confusing (for me) conversation with a native speaker of an obscure (according to native speakers} Italian dialect. It was about whales..... It turned out the dialect has 'balena' and 'orca' but no overarching, generic word for 'whale'.
      On a side note, when I visited that area I was somewhat of a curiosity. I was the first native English speaker they'd encountered who was learning their dialect without any formal study of standard Italian. This was over 30 years ago, but IIRC, the found my accent fascinating and were intrigued by how I used the auxiliary verbs corresponding to 'avere' & 'stare'. They also have nasal vowels which my brain interpreted as Polish 'ą' & 'ę'.

    • @KaZiK_LT
      @KaZiK_LT Рік тому

      oh you are very correct about Lithuanian free stress :D that's a huge pain in the ass for me learning Lithuanian :D And even most of books I have about Lithuanian have no stresses marked. May be some books for preschoolers have... So... If somebody from Lithuania can give some links to resources which can help with checking the stress in Lithuanian words -- I would really appreciate this help :D

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 Рік тому +32

    Interesting how neither of these young men learned Russian as a second language. That seems like a significant shift in the culture.

    • @piggyraccoon5464
      @piggyraccoon5464 Рік тому

      Yes, because most of young people associate Russia with corruption, occupation and alcoholism.

    • @KSfreaky
      @KSfreaky Рік тому +1

      because it's a useless language. there are no cultural or economic ties with russia.

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Рік тому +6

      Very similar to German’s loss of status after ‘45.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +18

      In Lithuania people born after 2000s rarely can speak Russian, I guess mostly because no one is actually interested in learning it properly and focus on English or German/French instead.

    • @jeremycline9542
      @jeremycline9542 Рік тому +10

      @@eruno_ That could give Russia less of an excuse to try invading the Baltic states, if there is a cultural shift toward Germany or Poland.

  • @KumoCC
    @KumoCC Рік тому +16

    Once again, as a Latvian, I didn't really understand more than Henriks :D but I'll second what another commenter said in that it would be interesting to involve some lesser-spoken baltic languages, I wonder if you have something like that planned!

    • @dreamthedream8929
      @dreamthedream8929 Рік тому +4

      I'm Latvian too and I understood that he was talking about lions. He said they come from warmer climates and are active at nights in groups and are closely associated with karali and karalistes. That was an easy one

    • @sanitamierina6612
      @sanitamierina6612 Рік тому

      viņš dzīvo Norvēģijā. Emigrējis viņš ir ļoti jaunā vecumā. Ar to arī viss ir pateikts . Viņam nav dziļas izpratnes par latviešu valodu. Latviski viņš komunicē tikai ar ģimeni. Šādiem vingrinājumiem vajag nedaudz vairāk kā tikai zināt valodu.
      Ekolingvistam galīgi neiet ar latviešu atrašanu . Iepriekšējais vispār bija Latvijas krievs.

  • @egijabiseniece6756
    @egijabiseniece6756 Рік тому +26

    Vairākas vasaras sanāca braukāt pa Lietuvas laukiem, bieži sastaptie leiši nerunāja ne angliski, ne krieviski, tad sarunājāmies tāpat, mēs latviski, vietējie lietuviski un lieliski visu vajadzīgo sapratām un noskaidrojām. Silti sveicieni no Latvijas;)🇱🇻

    • @igorbondarev5226
      @igorbondarev5226 Рік тому +3

      This is how I spoke Slovak in Poland when they didn't speak English

    • @Vithimerius
      @Vithimerius Рік тому +1

      Tas laikam bija žemaiši. Leišus nav nemaz tik viegli saprast.

    • @egijabiseniece6756
      @egijabiseniece6756 Рік тому +2

      ​@@VithimeriusTaisnība Žemaitijā bija vienkāršāk, bet Augštaitijā arī sapratāmies gana veiksmīgi.

    • @antrakirsone2992
      @antrakirsone2992 Рік тому +2

      ❤ Vieglāk saprast, ja valoda plūst sarunā, ne kā video, kad labāk vai sliktāk skaidro kādu vārdu.

    • @RSkrabiene
      @RSkrabiene Рік тому +2

      Taip aš irgi susikalbėjau Latvijoj savo kalba. Šilti sveikinimai iš Lietuvos ;)

  • @jammmy30
    @jammmy30 Рік тому +19

    Wow! This was VERY big difference between languages. I mean this was not Swedish and Norwegian or Swedish and Danish not even like Swedish and Icelandic. This is more like Dutch and Swedish (which is pretty much as far away as one get within Germanic languages if one would search for maximum difference). So how is it possible that two such geographically close languages from same family can be SO different? I mean both were part of Poland for a quite a while, so there must have been contacts not just between people but inside the state… which would bring not just spoken but also written language closer.. So interesting 🤔

    • @NottinghamForest24
      @NottinghamForest24 Рік тому +8

      Only South Eastern Part of Latvia was under Poland and not so Long!! while Rest of Country had big influence from Baltic Germans and Northern Latvia also From Sweden influence.
      Polish influence not much affected To Latvia as it did for Lithuania !

    • @ManteIIo
      @ManteIIo Рік тому +7

      The reason for this is that Latvian culture was butchered and mutilated over the course of 800 years due to conquests by many different powers - Germans, Swedes, Russians and then they have had also big influx of Finno-ugric speakers from the north which led to many loanwords that are used today. Unfortunately unlike many Lithuanian tribes who managed to unite themselves against the common enemy and successfully stand against and fend invaders - Latvian tribes were unable to do that which led to disaster and nearly full assimilation as has happened with many other smaller tribes that were wiped out of the maps. Because of this dark history, their language has undergone major shift with implementing multitude different changes and especially introduction of vast amount of foreign loan words. Also both languages diverged pretty early on, I think about 600AD if not mistaken, unlike with Old Norse/Scandinavian languages where split happened just in 14th century.

    • @jammmy30
      @jammmy30 Рік тому +2

      @@NottinghamForest24 okey, length is relative… Anyhow.. as far as I know Łatgalia still has some Poles / Polish speakers which kind of points to rests of former influence of Polish state. But, that’s not the point - Latvian and Lithuanian is. I mean having two languages that are so geographically close, have been in the same state, are from the same language family and are the closest languages that exist in reference to each other… and yet so little similarity.. Hmm 🤔 There must be something else in play that I don’t know of . . .

    • @Suris69xxx
      @Suris69xxx Рік тому +1

      lithuanian up to 20th century was mostly spoken by peasants outside bigger towns, and remained relatively archaic. also many words in Lithuanian were slavic origin, which were replaced by many linguists efforts to cleanse the language, therefore many differences from latvian counterparts occur. Latvia had a lot influence from Livonian language for a long time, and due to smaller population had more changes in their language. Me as Lithuanian can understand around 20%, in written form much easier. Mainly due to different stressing of words, latvian stresses first syllable and in lithuanian stresses go everywhere even in words with same root

    • @NottinghamForest24
      @NottinghamForest24 Рік тому +2

      @@jammmy30 Latgale only one Latvian region who has been under Poland.
      Thats why is difference between Catholic Latgale and other part of Latvia who Dominant religion is Lutheran protestants
      Estonia and Latvia was one Country called Livonia with Big Sweden influence

  • @nevco8774
    @nevco8774 Рік тому +7

    Phonetically all languages of Northern Europe are difficult to understand while in writing somehow might reveal better the meaning.

  • @vascoemyer
    @vascoemyer Рік тому +5

    Latvian was my first language. It's been many moons since I've had cause to speak or hear Latvian, I'm amazed how readily I understood the Latvian student. Very good to hear my mother tongue.

    • @Kannaxx
      @Kannaxx Рік тому

      Kādēļ tā?

    • @vascoemyer
      @vascoemyer Рік тому +1

      @@Kannaxx I moved to Great Britain as a child, then USA. Now I live in Australia 🦘

    • @Kannaxx
      @Kannaxx Рік тому

      @@vascoemyer Anglicismi pārņēma tavu dvēseli!

    • @vascoemyer
      @vascoemyer Рік тому +3

      @@Kannaxx I wouldn't say that at all. A language doesn't define my life's cultural heritage and experience at all. Everyone is an individual.

  • @mxMik
    @mxMik Рік тому +10

    It would be interesting to see how a latvian an lithuanian understand a latgalian. Some time ago google suggested me a video of a song "Sirmgalvis vecītis" in latgalian, and it took me an inordinate effort to translate it. (Of course, i am not a balt). Besides being an interesting video, it was a good linguistic exercise for me. (I was motivated to understad it because i am a sirmgalvis vecītis myself)

    • @antrakirsone2992
      @antrakirsone2992 Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂 How old are you? 😊

    • @mxMik
      @mxMik Рік тому

      ​​​​@@antrakirsone2992 only 67. And while I am not a balt, but I am baltarusas/gūdas :-) Kaimynas ir pusbrolis.

  • @gs2142
    @gs2142 Рік тому +6

    I feel like these guys were pretty bad at guessing. But maybe it's because I can also see the written form.
    Anyways it would help to know sound shifts like
    animal: dzīvnieks -> gyvūnas (dz->g)
    knee: celis -> kelis (c->k)

  • @martinsennitis670
    @martinsennitis670 Рік тому +5

    I love these videos - loved to guess the words myself got all 4 words from both videos. The latvian guy was way too serious and academic for this game - didnt trust his baltic instingts but tried using head too much. Lovely episodes, would really love to have more!

  • @lukasgyl
    @lukasgyl Рік тому +5

    Good one, but I guess the first one was better due to the more comprehensive way the participants explained their words. I think the mutual intelligibility between LV and LT is quite low, but a bit bigger than in this video!

  • @pile333
    @pile333 Рік тому +6

    Curiously "soma" in italiano means load, burden; the load carried by animals, donkeys specifically (in fact somaro is also a way to say donkey).

  • @Ezullof
    @Ezullof Рік тому +7

    It's interesting how so many words in Lithuanian (and Latvian to a lesser extent: "primos divus" for "first two" is transparent!) can be deduced from their proximity with ancient IE languages.
    liutas - the connection with leo is clear, but it's even closer to greek leont- like in the name Leontas. Liutas, Leontas, very close.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому +3

      Lion is arealetively new word. Lions never lived in Lithuania. It came from Ruthenian "zver' liuty" (a cruel animal). I'm curious where the English got the word for a lion from?

  • @naujadiena
    @naujadiena Рік тому +15

    I think that the Lithuanian and Latvian languages are more different than the most different Slavic languages.

    • @Lina-uk7ss
      @Lina-uk7ss Рік тому +2

      because they are not slavic languages in the first place

    • @550077
      @550077 Рік тому +15

      @@Lina-uk7ss The comment is saying that Slavic languages, even the most distinct ones, are more similar to each other than Latvian is similar to Lithuanian.

    • @Lina-uk7ss
      @Lina-uk7ss Рік тому

      @@550077 yes, I understand what is being said. but the argument, first, is very questionable, second irrelevant: what do slavic languages have to do here at all? why there is a need to always bring slavic world when it comes to Baltic languages?
      coming back to the first point, what is this 'estimation' even based on? To me the similarities between Lithuanian and Latvian, is something similar to what we can observe among some of the Romanic or Germanic languages (if the comparison must be made here). Can understand quite a bit when reading, but talking is challenging.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +5

      ​@@Lina-uk7ss
      Majority of people are more familiar with Slavic languages and considering Slavic languages are closest to the Baltic group comparisons shouldn't be surprising.

    • @jhargh12234
      @jhargh12234 9 місяців тому

      Yes that's true. I am Latvian who has learned Lithuanian. I have also learned Russian and partially Polish. Difference between Latvian and Lithuanian is definitely bigger than between any Slavic languages. But I would say that Lithuanian and Latvian is more similar than for example Germanic languages like English and German.

  • @KaZiK_LT
    @KaZiK_LT Рік тому +6

    As belarussian living in lithuania and just started learning lithuanian i did understand pretty much everything Justinas said, but i had almost no clue about latvian words :) In general lithuanian and belarussian languages have, surprisingly (hello GDoL), lots of common words. Like most of the veggies(buves - bulba, morka - morkva, agurkai - agurki, etc... even cibuliai(svogunai) - cybula), sodyba - siadziba, kreida - krejda , paslaugos - pasłuhi and, even russians kryptonite, šuflada(polish szuflada) is understandable in lithuania :) But latvian... it's like something completely different :)

    • @user-redin67d
      @user-redin67d 10 місяців тому

      Agree! Im Ukrainian - as you know we understand Belorussian quite well. and thats why I also feel and get something in Lithuanian. But didn’t get anything in Latvian.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ 10 місяців тому

      No Lithuanian says "šuflada"

    • @KaZiK_LT
      @KaZiK_LT 10 місяців тому

      @@eruno_ I never said they use this word. But they know what it is. May be not all the parts of Lithuania but still any of lithuanians I've spoken -- knew it.

  • @manometras
    @manometras Рік тому +5

    They spoke about animals before, but when Henriks asked was it an animal for the third word, Justinas said he didn’t understand the question as if he never heard that word dzivnieks / gyvūnas before.

    • @550077
      @550077 Рік тому

      This only shows how foreign sounding Latvian is to Lithuanians.

  • @boks81
    @boks81 Рік тому +13

    Norbert, try may be Latgalian dialect. It's Intermediate dialect between Latvian and Lithuanian (closer to Latvian)

    • @Vaidelotelis
      @Vaidelotelis Рік тому +1

      No, it's not an intermediary dialect. There are no intermediary dialects between Latvian and Lithuanian like you can find in some other languages. Latgalian has some (very few) words and structures that are closer to Lithuanian than Latvian but also has some that in Latgalian are even less similar to Lithuanian than they are in standard Latvian

  • @jammmy30
    @jammmy30 Рік тому +3

    Great that you put subtitles! even With subtitles only on in ten is possible to deduce. (Nation names, King, Monarch, climate) But it’s amazing to hear something so familiar in sound/melody and yet next to none words are understandable!

  • @flecksrandomstuff4593
    @flecksrandomstuff4593 Рік тому +4

    I'm Latvian, Lithuanian word "Maišas" reminds me of Latvian word "maiss", thats a sack, also a shopping bag is "maiss", small shopping bag/plastic bag is "maisiņš"! Cheers Justinas, you are awesome! :) You too Henriks, sveicieni no Latvijas :D

  • @Domciskas
    @Domciskas Рік тому +7

    Justinas's lithuanian has some very interesting features. He pronounces "ė" as "ie" and sometimes his "o" sounds like "uo". His stress is also very unusual to my ear. I can't help but wonder where his accent comes from.

    • @Laura-lt
      @Laura-lt Рік тому +2

      Suvalkietis

    • @Arissef
      @Arissef Рік тому +9

      He also said "kalbu anglų ir prancūzų kalbas" (instead of "kalbomis"). That registered as very wrong to me, even grammatically incorrect.

    • @blueeyedbaer
      @blueeyedbaer Рік тому +2

      @@Laura-lt Ne suvalkietis, suvalkiečių ė ir o kitaip skamba. Man panašiau į žemaitį.

    • @RSkrabiene
      @RSkrabiene Рік тому +3

      Manau, jis labai jauidnosi...

    • @lieutenantbigz938
      @lieutenantbigz938 9 місяців тому

      ​@@blueeyedbaer Na, nežinau, Kaune irgi daug kas panašiai kaip Justinas šneka

  • @neviensspele6179
    @neviensspele6179 Рік тому +3

    The Lithuanian guy looks so Lithuanian ❤

  • @oleksa-18
    @oleksa-18 Рік тому +5

    Два маленьких народа і такі різні мови. Але здалось литовець краще розуміє латиша. Може тому що доросліше.))
    Після війни обов’язково хочу відвідати всі три балтійські країни !!!
    Найкращі друзі, справжні брати!🇪🇪🇱🇻🇱🇹🤝🇺🇦

  • @realmahadeo
    @realmahadeo Рік тому +7

    In my opinion, after watching first 3 challenges, here these 2 guys didn't cooperate enough. This video shows that LT and LV are not mutually intelligible when spoken at a natural speed. However with slower speaking and providing more repetitions, analogs, comparisons etc, I guess the chances would be much higher to understand the core ideas. As many other commented here, LT and LV are not so different, and I believe with better cooperation mutual intelligibility could be achieved.

    • @realmahadeo
      @realmahadeo Рік тому

      I don't mean this as a criticism. By the way I am studying Lithuanian so understood most of what the LT speaker was saying, but understood very little of Latvian.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому

      Showing everything also written would help a lot.

  • @valfrittefternamn
    @valfrittefternamn Рік тому +3

    Russian speaker who doesn't know Latvian at all, but who is familiar with the sound of German, Latvian language seems to be German. If he is familiar with Swedish then Swedish language. To a Swede or German Latvian sounds like Russian. (Given they aren't familiar so well with Russian language).
    To me as a Latvian speaker the most similar by hearing language to Lithuanian is Portuguese and my own Latvian language is closest to Serbian (Croatian and Bosnian, too). When I speak my pigeon Polish, Polish people think that I speak pure Ukrainian. But when I speak my pigeon Polish to Ukrainians, they think that I have learned my Ukrainian from some Russians.

  • @wladbader
    @wladbader 9 місяців тому +1

    Even hard to believe these two languages are Indo-European… While listening I couldn’t connect any of the words to Romance, German or Slavic vocabularies (still some words sound like borrowed from other languages, including Slavic). It really represents they had split into different branches more than 2000 years ago :) I hope to go to both countries in a couple of years ✨ greeting from a native Russian speaker of Kazakhstan 🇰🇿

  • @MarieAntoinette1938_tmc
    @MarieAntoinette1938_tmc Рік тому +9

    Lithuanian sounds like it has remnants of Latin ...

  • @jaromirmusil9017
    @jaromirmusil9017 Рік тому +11

    Wow, surprise for me. I thought the last two living Baltic languages were mutually intelligible. My idea was that it would be similar to when I (a Czech) converse with a Slovak, which is essentially almost the same language. With a Pole, it would be a bit more difficult for a Czech, given that Poles have some words that are exactly the same, but mean something completely different. But we will definitely understand each other. For a Czech, Bulgarian is, in my opinion, the hardest of the Slavic languages to understand. However Lithuania vs Latvia, surprise. Guys, you probably won't chat much, without English :)

    • @jammmy30
      @jammmy30 Рік тому +1

      +++!
      Same take away, that you put so eloquently in the last sentence

    • @liveforever141
      @liveforever141 Рік тому +9

      They are! One just has to know some simple rules, as G sound in Lithuanian converts to DZ sound in Latvian and K sound from Lithuanian converts to C sound in Latvian. Then it much much easier to understand each other.

    • @anuskas9244
      @anuskas9244 Рік тому +5

      I am Polish and I understand the Czech language well, Czechs understand Polish better than we understand Czech. I understand Slovak better. I get along with a Czech and a Slovak, not counting, of course, those words that mean something else, the so-called false friends. I still understand the Belarusian language well, I don't understand Russian at all

    • @masia6255
      @masia6255 Рік тому +2

      ​@@eruno_Not same, because Spanish and Portuguese have 90% of common vocabulary and they can easily understand each other (of course if they are open for making an effort to understand). While here it's a completely different situation. Even though they are in the same family their common vocabulary is pretty limited

    • @SocialFoam
      @SocialFoam Рік тому

      they do chat much, however the language they use for that case is Russian

  • @Ilgas
    @Ilgas Рік тому +6

    Similarities with slavic doesnt mean influenced by them. Slavic languages are younger. Lithuanian and latvian have slavic loadnwords just for relatively new concepts like like book, town, church etc

    • @masia6255
      @masia6255 Рік тому +4

      It just means there was a common language in the past

    • @Robertoslaw.Iksinski
      @Robertoslaw.Iksinski Рік тому +1

      If some single thing (also language or community) separates into two parts, these new two parts always are isolated at the same time, because there is no other way :)

    • @blueeyedbaer
      @blueeyedbaer Рік тому +1

      @@Robertoslaw.Iksinski Yes, but the further separation can happen at different times. Proto-Balto-Slavic separated at some time into Proto-Baltic and Proto-Slavic but further separation most likely happened at different times and rates. All Slavic languages are more mutually intelligible than Latvian and Lithuanian.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому

      @@masia6255 Yes - Poto-Indo - European.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ 10 місяців тому

      Lithuanian has Slavic borrowings for terms related to religion because the first time Lithuanians encountered Christianity was through Slavic missionaries.

  • @AdagioVertigo
    @AdagioVertigo Рік тому +4

    For me as Latvian the first explaining in Lithuanian about Lion was very easy i think it because i became from par of Latvia called "Latgale" and we have dialect aka Language which is more close to Lithuanian

    • @raimondsozolinsh9665
      @raimondsozolinsh9665 Рік тому

      Even second word wasn’t too hard. And Latvian basically described backpack, he understood everything he was talking about

  • @sandrios
    @sandrios Рік тому +4

    as a Latvian speaker I right at the first one understood it as a lion from the first time, and second one I thought was river

    • @Vithimerius
      @Vithimerius Рік тому

      Yea, the first one was very easy. Almost all keywords were similar in both languages. But without Lithuanian subtitles sometimes it’s difficult to catch this similarity due to unusual pronunciation.

    • @dreamthedream8929
      @dreamthedream8929 Рік тому

      ​@@Vithimeriusmaybe it's difficult for people that don't know about lions. He clearly said that they are active at nights and in groups but if the person does not know that that is how lions are then it would be more difficult. But a big cat and strongly associated with karali and karalistes alone should make it easy to think that it's a lion

  • @alcapone3808
    @alcapone3808 11 місяців тому

    Guys do more of these challanges it will unite us even more!

  • @jasquerotte9151
    @jasquerotte9151 11 місяців тому +1

    Lithuanian here, to me Latvian sounds like Lithuanian, but with a very strong accent and some words changed completely haha.
    We do have different regions, where it does actually sound like a different language, even if it's from the same country, so i strongly believe that people from the region Žemaitija could much better communicate with a Latvian. I would love to hear if this is actually true

  • @RaferAlstonAkaLAZIO
    @RaferAlstonAkaLAZIO Рік тому +3

    The 3rd question lithuanian described river as big or small what confused latvian. Its should have been explained as "long/short or wide/narrow".

    • @naktisnaktiss9880
      @naktisnaktiss9880 Рік тому

      yet seconds before he confirmed wrong guess of LV guy "is it animal?" (dzivnieks)

  • @johnsun3854
    @johnsun3854 Рік тому +3

    If you watch the video with subtitles you can hear (and see) more words that are similar to your language. If you try to hear them without subtitles they sometimes disappear in the speech.

  • @lauris5275
    @lauris5275 Рік тому +2

    As latvian I knew the second word from lithuanian brother when he sad "ietek jūrā".
    And lithunanian brother was actually right. Soma in latvian can mean backpack. xD

  • @pile333
    @pile333 Рік тому +15

    I've never expected them to be that different from each other. Crazy.

    • @Oberschutzee
      @Oberschutzee Рік тому +2

      Its not crazy if you know geopolitics

  • @antonsdefrancua
    @antonsdefrancua Рік тому +1

    I am from Latvia and I also thought that he was talking about Lynx. But River I guested right!
    Its very interesting!

  • @rozeloria
    @rozeloria Рік тому +1

    There is no way, how didn't lion came up in his mind when he heard about animal and kingdom. Who is the king of animal. That was pretty fast guest for me as an latvian. And the second word was also easy to guess after a while because Justinas said that it teka teka iteka jūrā or smth like that which immeadiatly made sense - jūra is the same for latvian teka also is the same because "upe tek" and "upe ietek jūrā". I was kinda pissed off about his guesses but in general I really enjoyed video and was happy about myself😂 I would like to learn Lithuanian ❤️

  • @artursbondars7789
    @artursbondars7789 Рік тому +4

    As Latvian I guessed the "river".

  • @Oberschutzee
    @Oberschutzee Рік тому +5

    do a video with latgalian, samogitian, latvian and lithuanian speakers

  • @choboltovski
    @choboltovski Рік тому +2

    As a Ukrainian I understand only the last one, and Ukrainian word is similar to latvian - sumka (suma), but we also use word 'torba' for hand bag, which we care in hands (ruki), 'naplečnik', for school bag which we wear on shoulders (pleči).

    • @centisgercans1731
      @centisgercans1731 Рік тому +3

      "Tarba" is an old Latvian word for bag or sack.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +3

      ​@@centisgercans1731
      in Lithuanian slang "terba" means any kind of bag

    • @choboltovski
      @choboltovski Рік тому +1

      We also have "torbina" or "torebka" for small usually polyethylene bag, synonyms to loanwords "paket" and "kuliok". Big bag used for grain or sugar is "mišok" (mešok in my dialekt).
      Also we have some archaisms such as "mich", "tlumok", "klunok", "vorok", "kalita", "mošna", "raneć"...

    • @SavivaldybiuLyga
      @SavivaldybiuLyga Рік тому +2

      In lithuanian shoulder is "petys" and shoulders is "pečiai" which sounds similiar like "pleči".

    • @centisgercans1731
      @centisgercans1731 Рік тому +2

      @@SavivaldybiuLyga "Plecs" and "pleci" in Latvian.

  • @mavsocc
    @mavsocc Рік тому +2

    i didn't know lithuanina and latvian languages are not slavic. i couldn't understand anything. i speak south slavic languages. thanks for the video.

  • @dainisjanums3700
    @dainisjanums3700 Рік тому +3

    Its easy when i can read in lithuanian, then i can understand, and i understand all two from lithuanian guy... Im latvian!

  • @_Anton_Marchenko_
    @_Anton_Marchenko_ Рік тому +7

    I guessed lion correctly, haha. There was a hint in one of the sentences that said 'warm climate', which sounds almost identical in Latvian. A king, an animal, and a warm climate does make up one thick clue 😀 But with the river, I also though that it was an animal 😂

    • @arnasudovic8383
      @arnasudovic8383 Рік тому +6

      Justinas needed to say something about Geografija. And sad many times he said Teka but Henriks didn't got it as Tec or similar. I just remember Latvian song Kur tu teci

    • @dreamthedream8929
      @dreamthedream8929 Рік тому +4

      Plus he said that they are active in groups at nights, I'm Latvian and I too quickly thought that he is talking about lions. From warmer climates and associated with karali and karalistes

    • @trymai_kavun
      @trymai_kavun Рік тому +2

      ​@dreamthedream8929 that was confusing, cause lions are not exclusively night animals, they hunt both at the daytime and at night, also not only in groups but alone.

    • @dreamthedream8929
      @dreamthedream8929 Рік тому +2

      @@trymai_kavun but mostly. They go in groups to search prey at nights. Lions sleep a lot. 20 hours and mostly during daylight. If a person does not know about lions that this would be harder. However even mentioning big cats from warmer climates associated with karali and karalistes should have had been enough

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому +2

      @@arnasudovic8383, upė teka, bet latviai supranta žodį teka / tec, kaip bėga, taigi gyvūnas gali bėgti. Kur tu teci yra daina apie apie gaidelį, “kur tu bėgi, kur tu bėgi, gaidel mans?”

  • @corinna007
    @corinna007 Рік тому +4

    Any plans for more videos featuring Finnic languages? 😅 (Finnish again in particular.)

  • @ryt-is
    @ryt-is Рік тому +6

    Maišas is not the correct translation for the last word. Rankinė or Rankinukas would be more correct, because I think he was talking about a handbag (as he said commonly used by women). Maišas is more of a sack. But hey, great video, would love to participate some time.

    • @naurisss
      @naurisss Рік тому +2

      Soma is a wide term - It can be a sack, a bag, can be a purse, and also a backpack, but for backpack we usually have a more specific word - Mugursoma. So direct translation is correct. We also have a word Maiss, but that's specifically for plastic bag.

    • @eruno_
      @eruno_ Рік тому +2

      @@naurisss
      in Lithuanian "maišas" means "sack" and "plastic shopping bag" exclusively, it seems Latvian term is a more versatile.

    • @centisgercans1731
      @centisgercans1731 Рік тому

      @@eruno_ "Maiss" can be a big sack too, for grain or potatoes, made of fabric. For plastic bag we say "maisiņš" (little sack).

  • @ernestasluza1787
    @ernestasluza1787 Рік тому +4

    Would be very nice to hear Samagotian versus Latvian, because as Samagotian I did understood good chunk of Latvian, it's funny to listen, unfortunately in real life you don't see subtitles written in Latvian so it's even harder :D mostly I understood because of subtitles :D

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому

      Justinas was / is the Samogitian in this video.

    • @ernestasluza1787
      @ernestasluza1787 Рік тому

      @@manometras Strange, he should understand more, cuz there is similar words from Latvian in our dialect, I am Samagotian myself.

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 Рік тому

      @@manometras Yes, you can hear it as his accent, though a slight one, tells it 😁

  • @frandaz
    @frandaz Рік тому +1

    Oh! I’ve been waiting for this one! ❤

  • @EduardsPutra
    @EduardsPutra Рік тому +1

    It is essential to use the right questioning strategies to improve this so the speaker can use additional sentences and words and create more context. Just repeating stuff will only help you a little. But that's the understandable problem here and comes with experience. Cool stuff. But I'm biased as growing up near the Lithuanian border, I could understand what's up reasonably quickly.

  • @AdrianBoyko
    @AdrianBoyko Рік тому +9

    I don’t realize how “well” I understand Slavic languages until I try to understand Baltic languages. This was very interesting.

    • @valdasnetavo8746
      @valdasnetavo8746 Рік тому +1

      To begin with, Lithuanian is not a slavic language.

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому +6

      @@valdasnetavo8746, and he meant that he could not understand the Baltic languages.

  • @Ilgas
    @Ilgas Рік тому +11

    lithuanian and latvian are more archaic thank any living slavic language. They have similarities with proto slavic, not influence by them.

    • @dariuso6190
      @dariuso6190 Рік тому

      Total nonsense. You lack basic knowledge. Lithuanian and Latvian languages ​​are not Slavic languages, they are Baltic languages. Not at all similar to Slavic languages. These are Indo-European languages.

    • @Ilgas
      @Ilgas Рік тому

      @dariusm3711 bs. Proove.

  • @SkyglowProductions
    @SkyglowProductions Рік тому +4

    Latvian "soma" ("a bag") seems to be connected to Russian "сума"/"suma" (same meaning).

    • @avotini4400
      @avotini4400 Рік тому +1

      Нет, не так! Soma - это сумка, mugursoma - это ранец или рюкзак. Он говорил про школьников, так, что mugursoma это правильный ответ. По-литовски kuprinė.

    • @Arissef
      @Arissef Рік тому +4

      The Wiktionary seems to confirm that: Latvian "soma" < Old East Slavic сума < Old High German soum, from Ancient Greek σάγμα. So Latvian borrowed in from Old East Slavic, which in turn borrowed it from Old High German.

    • @Yasa5na
      @Yasa5na Рік тому

      sthali - sthole means sack bag in indic

    • @avotini4400
      @avotini4400 Рік тому

      @@Arissef Только в современном русском языке "сума" это небольшой мешок, в котором бездомные, нищие носят свои вещи.

    • @dmitryche8905
      @dmitryche8905 Рік тому

      @@Arissef я всё-таки заметил, что в литовском больше слов схожих со славянскими. Послышались живе (про животное), течи и бежи (когда про реку объяснял) и т.д

  • @AlekséjAntipov
    @AlekséjAntipov Рік тому +2

    Kiel mirinde! Jutubo tradukas al mi subtekstojn de ĉi tiu filmeto de la angla en Esperanton!

  • @anzelmasmatutis2500
    @anzelmasmatutis2500 Рік тому +1

    5:17 - 5:45 All time, all those ~25 seconds as Lithuanian I had no clue what he is talking about. First recognizable word was Omega-3 :)

  • @vaidekas
    @vaidekas Рік тому +3

    I live in east of Lithuania and i more familiar with Poland culture and language. Thank you sir for opportunity to know more about Latvians.

  • @alexsky88749
    @alexsky88749 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting linguistic exchange... I dont know Nordic languages, but I still find it interesting.

  • @crocolagerfelden6142
    @crocolagerfelden6142 Рік тому +1

    Whenever I see a textured wall like in the LT guys video I immediately go "is this the popcorn type of textured wall that is known to have asbestos?". Hope I'm wrong but just in case... plz check when this was built.

  • @peterfireflylund
    @peterfireflylund Рік тому +3

    That was an unexpected delight :)

  • @UtamagUta
    @UtamagUta Рік тому +4

    Bag, or maišas in Lithuanian has only one meaning - grocery bag (or any other bought good) and is plastic or paper nowadays. Could be a sag of potatoes but it depends on context heavily, initial thought is a grocery bag. I'd guessed backpack or a handbag/purse,- rankinukas or tašė (tasche in German). Totebags are called material-bags in Lithuanian (medžiaginis maišelis) but they are so rare that nobody would've guessed that one.

    • @Vithimerius
      @Vithimerius Рік тому +6

      yes, Lithuanian maišas = Latvian maiss, not soma.

  • @gordonpi8674
    @gordonpi8674 Рік тому +2

    So similar, but also even more so different.

  • @ginchiks
    @ginchiks Рік тому +2

    Yeah! My Lithuanian is getting better! :) I guessed lion right away. It was so strange that Henriks didn't get it. As for the river I struggled but I got it in the end.

    • @KaZiK_LT
      @KaZiK_LT Рік тому

      actually river was quite an easy guess too. :) but still I have to practice more :) especially in distinguishing words without subtitles :D

  • @mariuskumpys6780
    @mariuskumpys6780 Рік тому +1

    I am Lithuanian. While some Latvian and Lithuanian words match 1:1, like "Day", in both is the same "Diena" it is impossible to understand Latvian. It sounds differently, hard to catch meaning of the words. The illiustration for this is the fact that with Latvians, we Lithuanians, communicate with Russian or English language. Even more, I have own experience: we use almost the same writing system with many diacritics, so once I ordered fast food in restaurant in Riga. I simply read what is on menu, and waitress asked me, probably, will I eat there or take away. And I understood nothing. :-)

  • @Cinematico5
    @Cinematico5 Рік тому +2

    No se entienden bien. Sí, porque las lenguas lituana y letona se separaron hace mil años. Está claro que Justino no es del norte de Lituania. Si fuera del norte de Lituania, entendería mejor el letón. Es que lituanos norteños y letones centrales son descendentes de tribus semigales. Ahora una parte de Semigalia está en Letonia central y otra parte en Lituania centronorteña.

    • @naktisnaktiss9880
      @naktisnaktiss9880 Рік тому

      Yep. When it is written, it is easy to understand even Espagnol, which I have never learned.

  • @1MuchButteR1
    @1MuchButteR1 Рік тому +1

    Listened to random Latvian podcast and understood the topics quite well, some sentences and bunch of vocab were the same. I think casually it can be quite mutually intelligible just not scientific speech like here.

  • @Gutukas
    @Gutukas Рік тому +1

    It was so interesting to watch and listen I noticed the second I guessed better Latvian word the ear got used to the language and it became easier. Earlier I thought Latvian is impossible to understand though my mother comes from the village by Latvian border.

  • @ladygabi98
    @ladygabi98 Рік тому +1

    I feel like I can understand enough when I read Latvian, but not when it's spoken. I tried to first ignore the subtitles and only listen, but when I read them it seemed easier. :D

  • @editacassim6925
    @editacassim6925 10 місяців тому +1

    I understood much in latvian, this is ours brothers ans sisters, regards from Lithuania.

  • @ugnikalnis
    @ugnikalnis Рік тому +1

    It would be Awsome if you would invite Also Latgalian n Samogitian speakers

  • @lukas11xxf2
    @lukas11xxf2 Рік тому +1

    "Maišas" is more like a bag that is out of thinner, less durable material. A purse and alike 'bags' that is of a stronger material would be krepšys.

  • @mytube001
    @mytube001 Рік тому +2

    I used to believe that Latvian and Lithuanian were like Spanish and Italian in terms of mutual intelligibility. Based on this and the previous video, it seems like it's more like Swedish/Norwegian/Danish and Icelandic or perhaps Swedish/Norwegian/Danish and Faroese.

    • @masia6255
      @masia6255 Рік тому +3

      No, it's worse

    • @mikehunt2805
      @mikehunt2805 Рік тому +1

      @@masia6255 It's not worse, it's a fairly god comparison (I speak Swedish and Lithuanian). a few sound changes, a different stress and a lot of neologisms,

    • @masia6255
      @masia6255 Рік тому +2

      @@mikehunt2805 I mean the mutual intelligibility between Swedish/Norwegian/Danish is definitely better compared to Latvian and Lithuanian. People from the former languages even can communicate between each other

    • @manometras
      @manometras Рік тому +2

      @@masia6255, well, I am Lithuanian, speak Latvian and Swedish, and I also know that I could communicate with some Norvegians in Swedish, but Icelandic and Danish are pretty much understandable to me only when they are written, not spoken. As about Latvian and Lithuanian, yes, they are more different than the Scandinavian langages are. They are more like Finnish and Estonian, plus they have different pronunciation, that makes them feel like impossible to understand by listening, more like Swedish vs Danish or Swedish vs Icelandic.

  • @sigitaspetrauskas646
    @sigitaspetrauskas646 4 місяці тому

    Bag in lithuanian is "Maišas" but this word never used for describing what Henriks was talking about. "Kuprinė" for kids at school or for hiking, general purpose and "Tašė" for ladies translated as "Purse". Maišas or "bag" is used in lithuanian to discribe things like "Šiukslių Maišas - Garbage Bag".
    The gues was right. Soma is coherant to Sumka (Сумка) in russian and that is also translated from rusian as "Purse or bag". In lithuanian we have very specific names for things that serves a special purpose.