So much good in this video! God knew what scrupulosity and OCD were long before anyone gave them names. He knows every Christian throughout time - in 2024, 1524, or 1024 - who needs grace for those symptoms. We may have issues that nobody gets around to naming for 500 years. Doesn't matter to God! For your list of verses I submit Ecclesiastes 7:21-22: "Do not take to heart all the things that people say, lest you hear your servant cursing you. Your heart knows that many times you yourself have cursed others." I love this passage because it acknowledges a part of reality that it's easy to think that the Bible doesn't acknowledge. Nobody gets through their whole lives avoiding venting, and being under someone else's authority is a natural producer of venting. When we hear someone vent about us, God's advice is to not take all of them seriously, because we wouldn't like it if every single one of our ventings had been taken seriously. So *even if* we slip up and have a venting-type thought about the God we serve, His advice to Himself is not to take it to heart, because that's His advice to us in the same situation. God can contextualize that sort of thing against our entire life, just as we can if our partner or kid snaps in a moment of stress.
I know...this is the hard part. What is me, and what is my OCD? I think when we are in a state of confusion (being in our "OCD mind" rather than our "sound mind") I don't think we have to try figuring it out.
@@jaimieeckert as I am positive you are aware, when you have religious Scrupulosity the real you has eternal consequences, not trying to figure which is which is very difficult to do. Studying and applying Gods grace and mercy is helpful until you are lectured on heresy of hyper-grace and then it’s back to the spinning.
@@seamusomavity yes, precisely. And I don't advocate for "never" examining/learning/researching/introspecting. There is a time and place for this in every Christian's life. But for believers with OCD, we have to learn how to distinguish between our "sound mind" and our "OCD mind." The OCD mind involves anxiety, panic, racing thoughts, perhaps even physical sensations like heart palpatations or squeezing in the chest. When we are in our OCD mind, we DELAY dealing with the issue until later when we can think clearly. You mention the "spinning" that comes when you are triggered by specific preaching. A sense of spinning is a great time to shelf the issue until another time when you have more clarity, because "God is not the author of confusion but of peace," and trying to figure things out in a state of confusion and anxiety will be counterproductive. Says the person with very intense OCD: "Well, Jaimie, I am NEVER in a sound mind. What shall I do?" I would say, keep on going with the normal spiritual practices and behaviors that you typically do and are seen as "normal" within your faith community (ie don't go off and become a non-practicing non-Christian), but at the same time, I would still say don't pressure yourself to figure things out if you aren't in a sound mind. That's like telling a mangled, badly injured person just arriving in the emergency room after a car wreck that he ought to "examine himself" spiritually at that moment. God is not like that. He understands where we are at in life. The longevity of an anxiety disorder does not reduce its impact and its ability to make us not think clearly. Deal with the anxiety disorder first. Get it at a manageable level before making any serious conclusions in your faith life. If that takes a long time, then it takes a long time.
Mein Mann kommt aus Deutschland! Ich habe versucht, ihn dazu zu bringen, in unserer Gruppe zur Unterstützung bei Skrupulosität oder auf meinem UA-cam-Kanal aufzutreten, aber er hat bisher noch nicht zugestimmt. ;) Vielleicht werden wir KI nutzen, um meine Videos in andere Sprachen zu synchronisieren, wenn Bedarf besteht. (Ich spreche kein Deutsch, ich habe ChatGPT benutzt, um dies zu übersetzen, also hoffe ich, dass es korrekt ist!) ;)
There’s a video by Mark DeJesus called “ The one scripture saved my mental health” it breaks down 1 John 4:18-19 it’s helpful Also thanks you for your videos you’ve helped me to know I’m not the only going through this .❤
Great content. Question. Recently I’ve been doing well and haven’t been in an OCD rabbit hole for a while. For some reason; the blasphemous thought have come back full force. I know I’m absolutely safe in Christ and I’m not afraid He is offended by me. But it is horrible! The thoughts are so horrific. The worst things you can imagine. I’m such a tender hearted person and so of course OCD latches onto that. Though I’m not panicky or really afraid; I don’t always NOT react. I close my eyes or ask the Lord to deliver me. It’s nearly impossible to ignore them when they are so terrible. They aren’t going way even though I’m not panicking. I’m not sure what to do? I’m afraid of my thoughts (meaning I can feel it coming and I dread it becuse it’s so offensive to me). Help lol
Hey Jessica, I'm glad you've had an easier season but so sorry to hear the intrusive thoughts are still knocking on the door. Do you think it's a little relapse, or how would you categorize it? I would suggest (in a moment when you are in your "sound mind"), do a quick check-in with yourself and assess whether you are still up and up on doing "all the things" you previously did for your recovery. Usually when I have mini relapses it's usually because of one of the following: 1) I've gotten slack on the things that help me cope well 2) I have extra stress or a tough season not related to OCD 3) My hormones are wack (pregnancy was tough, for example) 4) Some other unknown reason that I never figure out Hope it's not #4 because that's the most annoying one!! Start with the first three and see if it's related!
@@jaimieeckert So I realized it might be a side effect of medication 🙄 The medication that finally works for anxiety causes intrusive thoughts 😂😂😂 I’m doing very well in regards to OCD. And I’m less stressed! So I think it’s meds. I’m having a hard time going to sleep at night without the TV on because I’m afraid to close my eyes in the quiet and the thoughts start 😭
Hey Jaimie, I was just curious regarding a particular situation that I am in with which I believe could be OCD. I have been taking hairloss medication for the past 7 years and as of recently coming back to Christ, I have noticed these convictions pop up here and there in my head that I need to rid myself of these things and if I don’t then I am not denying myself and following Christ. I currently feel like I need to give up taking my hairloss medication and if I don’t then it’s an idol. I also have thoughts telling me to stop wearing my retainers for my teeth at not and that both things I should let go of because they are potential idols in my life. I got my teeth fixed at a younger age due to insecurities and have been on hair loss medication when I started to notice my hair thinning. Could both of these things actually potential idols? Or are they not? It all seems so distorted and I can’t actually know for certain if they are or not. It has been extremely debilitating because the feelings pop up because I don’t want to give these things up because it’s taking care of myself but that thought loops me into the cycle that because I don’t want to give them up because I use the medication every day and wear the retainers every night , they must be an idol. Like if god wants me too I totally give them up I will. I just don’t know what to do. I hope you can maybe shed some light on this situation? I apologize for the long post!
10:08 wow. This is so good. This is the struggle of my life
So much good in this video! God knew what scrupulosity and OCD were long before anyone gave them names. He knows every Christian throughout time - in 2024, 1524, or 1024 - who needs grace for those symptoms. We may have issues that nobody gets around to naming for 500 years. Doesn't matter to God!
For your list of verses I submit Ecclesiastes 7:21-22:
"Do not take to heart all the things that people say, lest you hear your servant cursing you. Your heart knows that many times you yourself have cursed others."
I love this passage because it acknowledges a part of reality that it's easy to think that the Bible doesn't acknowledge. Nobody gets through their whole lives avoiding venting, and being under someone else's authority is a natural producer of venting. When we hear someone vent about us, God's advice is to not take all of them seriously, because we wouldn't like it if every single one of our ventings had been taken seriously.
So *even if* we slip up and have a venting-type thought about the God we serve, His advice to Himself is not to take it to heart, because that's His advice to us in the same situation. God can contextualize that sort of thing against our entire life, just as we can if our partner or kid snaps in a moment of stress.
When it is real bad, you don’t know who the real you is
Jesus is the answer call to him he will help you❤
I know...this is the hard part. What is me, and what is my OCD? I think when we are in a state of confusion (being in our "OCD mind" rather than our "sound mind") I don't think we have to try figuring it out.
@@jaimieeckert as I am positive you are aware, when you have religious Scrupulosity the real you has eternal consequences, not trying to figure which is which is very difficult to do. Studying and applying Gods grace and mercy is helpful until you are lectured on heresy of hyper-grace and then it’s back to the spinning.
@@seamusomavity yes, precisely. And I don't advocate for "never" examining/learning/researching/introspecting. There is a time and place for this in every Christian's life. But for believers with OCD, we have to learn how to distinguish between our "sound mind" and our "OCD mind." The OCD mind involves anxiety, panic, racing thoughts, perhaps even physical sensations like heart palpatations or squeezing in the chest. When we are in our OCD mind, we DELAY dealing with the issue until later when we can think clearly. You mention the "spinning" that comes when you are triggered by specific preaching. A sense of spinning is a great time to shelf the issue until another time when you have more clarity, because "God is not the author of confusion but of peace," and trying to figure things out in a state of confusion and anxiety will be counterproductive.
Says the person with very intense OCD: "Well, Jaimie, I am NEVER in a sound mind. What shall I do?"
I would say, keep on going with the normal spiritual practices and behaviors that you typically do and are seen as "normal" within your faith community (ie don't go off and become a non-practicing non-Christian), but at the same time, I would still say don't pressure yourself to figure things out if you aren't in a sound mind. That's like telling a mangled, badly injured person just arriving in the emergency room after a car wreck that he ought to "examine himself" spiritually at that moment. God is not like that. He understands where we are at in life. The longevity of an anxiety disorder does not reduce its impact and its ability to make us not think clearly.
Deal with the anxiety disorder first. Get it at a manageable level before making any serious conclusions in your faith life. If that takes a long time, then it takes a long time.
Needed this -BADLY!!! Thank you so much ❤
Thank you sister!
You are so welcome
Vielen Dank. Herzliche Grüße aus Deutschland 🇩🇪. Ich wünschte solche Videos gäbe es in deutsch (für meine Freunde).
Mein Mann kommt aus Deutschland! Ich habe versucht, ihn dazu zu bringen, in unserer Gruppe zur Unterstützung bei Skrupulosität oder auf meinem UA-cam-Kanal aufzutreten, aber er hat bisher noch nicht zugestimmt. ;) Vielleicht werden wir KI nutzen, um meine Videos in andere Sprachen zu synchronisieren, wenn Bedarf besteht. (Ich spreche kein Deutsch, ich habe ChatGPT benutzt, um dies zu übersetzen, also hoffe ich, dass es korrekt ist!) ;)
My meds are giving me racing thoughts and recently I have been irritated. I love that passage from John by the way. ❤🎉 Just on time, thank you Jaimie.
Jesus is the answer call to him for help he will come through for you❤
@kellybrown6149 What about the difficulty of crying out to Jesus and, wondering if I actually wanted him or did I just sin?
There’s a video by Mark DeJesus called “ The one scripture saved my mental health” it breaks down 1 John 4:18-19 it’s helpful
Also thanks you for your videos you’ve helped me to know I’m not the only going through this .❤
Me too..been struggling with this for years now
Great content.
Question.
Recently I’ve been doing well and haven’t been in an OCD rabbit hole for a while.
For some reason; the blasphemous thought have come back full force. I know I’m absolutely safe in Christ and I’m not afraid He is offended by me.
But it is horrible! The thoughts are so horrific. The worst things you can imagine.
I’m such a tender hearted person and so of course OCD latches onto that.
Though I’m not panicky or really afraid; I don’t always NOT react. I close my eyes or ask the Lord to deliver me. It’s nearly impossible to ignore them when they are so terrible. They aren’t going way even though I’m not panicking. I’m not sure what to do? I’m afraid of my thoughts (meaning I can feel it coming and I dread it becuse it’s so offensive to me).
Help lol
Hey Jessica, I'm glad you've had an easier season but so sorry to hear the intrusive thoughts are still knocking on the door. Do you think it's a little relapse, or how would you categorize it? I would suggest (in a moment when you are in your "sound mind"), do a quick check-in with yourself and assess whether you are still up and up on doing "all the things" you previously did for your recovery. Usually when I have mini relapses it's usually because of one of the following:
1) I've gotten slack on the things that help me cope well
2) I have extra stress or a tough season not related to OCD
3) My hormones are wack (pregnancy was tough, for example)
4) Some other unknown reason that I never figure out
Hope it's not #4 because that's the most annoying one!! Start with the first three and see if it's related!
@@jaimieeckert So I realized it might be a side effect of medication 🙄
The medication that finally works for anxiety causes intrusive thoughts 😂😂😂
I’m doing very well in regards to OCD. And I’m less stressed! So I think it’s meds. I’m having a hard time going to sleep at night without the TV on because I’m afraid to close my eyes in the quiet and the thoughts start 😭
It's spiritual warfare the enemy attacking your mind to try and steal your joy and peace that's why u need Jesus as your protection❤
Definitely
Yeah I hear but it's also a mental health problem
Hey Jaimie, I was just curious regarding a particular situation that I am in with which I believe could be OCD. I have been taking hairloss medication for the past 7 years and as of recently coming back to Christ, I have noticed these convictions pop up here and there in my head that I need to rid myself of these things and if I don’t then I am not denying myself and following Christ. I currently feel like I need to give up taking my hairloss medication and if I don’t then it’s an idol. I also have thoughts telling me to stop wearing my retainers for my teeth at not and that both things I should let go of because they are potential idols in my life. I got my teeth fixed at a younger age due to insecurities and have been on hair loss medication when I started to notice my hair thinning. Could both of these things actually potential idols? Or are they not? It all seems so distorted and I can’t actually know for certain if they are or not. It has been extremely debilitating because the feelings pop up because I don’t want to give these things up because it’s taking care of myself but that thought loops me into the cycle that because I don’t want to give them up because I use the medication every day and wear the retainers every night , they must be an idol. Like if god wants me too I totally give them up I will. I just don’t know what to do. I hope you can maybe shed some light on this situation? I apologize for the long post!
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