What did you think was hiding in the Void Ship? 🛸
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I love this scene just because it's one of the few times the Doctor gets to explain what something is to people who are genuinely interested in learning and understanding, instead of to his companions who tend to either quip or give blank stares because they don't get the technical aspects of what he's talking about.
We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.
@@ShiroNekoDenfuck. That. Ignorance damns progress. If these foul spawn of chaos wish to bend our minds then we shall bite all who try. We shall not strive to live safely under their tyranny but shall instead strive to make a mark against their opression.
@@ShiroNekoDen we are human, to be human is to better oneself.
we have slowly started sending ships, even building lighthouses out in that dark void.
where there was once nothing, now the lighthouses of algebra, calculus, chemistry, physics, quantum physics, culinary art, biology, and more stand
where there was once nothing, understanding now stands,
we are slowly conquering the void of ignorance, and it is a good thing.
@@ShiroNekoDen hp Lovecraft nice
@@Maeve_RoseThe overwhelming indifference of the Universe when it meets the indomitable human spirit:
Honestly I LOVED the fact there was a sphere that was just not there, but everyone could see it
I like that it isn’t something that they can’t see specifically, often in tropes where the abstract idea of a physical nothingness is depicted most if not all can’t see it because “their minds can’t understand it so it blocks it out to prevent any harm to the mind” while at here they can see it but can’t understand it because its nothing, how would you run tests or experiments on nothingness? If not for the doctor who has some knowledge or maybe even experience with it they would have never known what it was
@@nekofrisk1005
I agree. It's basically a ship that can sustain the nothingness of the Void inside the existing universe, which is pretty impossible, The Doctor's right. Just think about it. Which material or form of energy could you use to keep "nothing"?
And the human minds just make up something of an image in order to prevent being harmed, yes, but because it does not obey the laws of physics it seems weird to look at it
I can't remember where I heard this; But it's like their brains are trying to process it. But can't, so they just see this blob. That's the kinda feeling I get.
@@lazypaladin
Think about staring at absolutely nothing, not just staring at the air, but staring at nothing at all. There are no light particles hitting your retina from there. Every light particle hitting the nothingness from all directions does not interact at all with it, so it will block the photons coming from behind it.
Yes, light can travel on the void, but when we say void, we mean inside space-time. This is complete Void (no matter, no space, no time) so the absence of photons returning to your retina isn't normal for the Brain, so the Brain has to fill this gap, this absence of information, with something. This something is the sphere they "see".
@@Stellarionas I feel like another possible way to do this would be to warp the space where the object is. So if a region of space becomes nothing - so no longer has any space - it would effectively appear as though the light hitting one side were instantly transported to the other, creating a weird distortion effect in this region of void. Though of course there are no 'sides' and there's no transportation, I'm just struggling to come up with a good way to describe this and I'm having to resort to very faulty analogy.
Essentially there would be a sphere with measurable width from outside which contains no space within it, so has an internal width of 0.
I love how he's got so much energy like "I'm absolutely terrified at seeing this but oh boy and i about to blow your minds"
Love the fact that despite the supposed absence of the sphere we can still see it because it brings up a quote I love “in the absence of color a small speck of color is quite easy to see and in a template of only color a void is easy to pick out”
Everyone else terrified
10 still kind of enjoying the fact that he doesn’t have a clue what’s in it and then being the most terrified person in the room
Everyone else don't know how much they don't know.
That pretty much sums up 10.
"Cool! I've never dealt with one of those before... We're gonna need a plan for when this goes bad."
@@benjaminewing8322 10 and 11 were the best. 👌
Still like 10 more tho
The Doctor being uncertain is what worried me the most.
@@Reoh0z when the brightest minds that know so much come up short you just know things are well and truly beyond comprehension
“Some people call it Hell”
That was Brilliantly written
Such an immense way to describe the fear of Death
Our minds can quite literally not comprehend it. Just as he said, "can you imagine that? Nothing?" We can acknowledge its existence but as for actually comprehending it is literally impossible. Because even what we call nothing is still in of itself something.
@@optimuprime500 exactlyyyy
@@optimuprime500 Yeah and he also said that there is no dark in the void, meaning no life form of our intelligence could comprehend it
Sometimes, nothing is scary.
@@MonkeyJedi99 It is when you see it in your wallet.
That’s where the Cybermen came from, the original incarnation of the Cybermen in classic Doctor Who happened when the tardis “malfunctioned” and went into the void, the doctor discovered people who had placed their brains into mechanical bodies to survive the void and stripped themselves of emotion to avoid losing their minds, unfortunately the process of doing so made them lose their minds.
I just checked Wikipedia to see if I could find this episode.
I acknowledge that Wikipedia is not infallible, but when I looked there it said the cybermen were from Mondas and the whole planet was lost in deep space where they became conquerors to replenish their numbers.
There is no mention of the void at that time, although it does describe them replacing their bodies with mechanical parts over time and removing emotions to maintain sanity.
It should be noted that they destroyed Mondas and themselves while trying to steal energy from Earth.
David Tennant + good writing about existentialism = Brilliance 😘🤌
I love the music in this scene, really adds to the atmosphere of something ethereal, unknowable and ominous about the void ship. Like you should be afraid of its mere existence, nevermind whatever could be hiding inside it.
@beef business he was at his best in the RTD era overall i'd say. Felt like during the moffat era they just reused the same tracks half the time especially i am the doctor.
R.I.P, Murray Gold!
@@JB-ys8ct well... I Am The Doctor was a masterpiece.... but... Yeah, they overused the heck out of it. 😅🤭
But not quite within the show as I feel. More in the promotional material.
@@chanceneck8072 Mate, Murray is still alive lmao
@@Aegon6 I know. Lol.
It was just for fun... like, R.I.P. in terms of Doctor Who. I wish he returned.....
Can we just acknowledge the fact he was using old time 3D glasses like they were some kind of high tech gear
smart use of budget, that's what i like about the series, focusing more on concepts rather than one time use expensive gadget
and we just assume that the doctor tinkers with the basic things which we see in his pocket he carries,
make simple stuff advanced
@@shashanksamlike his pen
I had those glasses to watch the Children in Need "Dimensions in Time" 3D
It's very on the nose. Yes.
I just love that there was a random call back to the Eternals from "Enlightenment".
These were some of the best writers and he was one of the best Doctors. These seasons were a great run.
Which seasons are these
@@jonathankhuzkian6419this episode is from the end of season 2 I believe, and for me seasons 1-4 are my favorite. ❤️
I loved this scene- The Doctor explaining some complex things, but even he isn’t sure beyond the scientific theory of it being a Void Ship. He’s just as curious and fascinated as the rest of us.
Omg Murray Gold's score actually gives the voidship travellers' identities away! Murray used that creepy guitar bit for only one of the doctors enemies
What a good point
I mean, what was the ad campaign like building up to this episode? I've only watched it on DVD but never saw it when it first aired.
What guitar bit? All I can hear here are synth and choir pads.
Which enemies?
@@kaidenbrown9144 The ones inside the void ship.
This is still one of the best episodes imo and a perfect ending to the season
"But some people call it hell" Most chilling line in all of Doctor Who in my opinion.
"I did my duty for queen and country" still breaks my heart
Absolutely wonderful writing and verified that her ability to shut down her morals for the good of her country truly dictated her entire existence
Who are you talking about???
@@wesleyvleminckx7567a girl, that was from the government I think I remember.
She got turned into a Cyberman but her will to protect her queen and country was so strong her brain had overridden the commands of the AI commands.
@@wesleyvleminckx7567 Yvonne Hartman. In charge of Torchwood
I’ll admit occasionally in the military when shit is kinda rough I’ll imagine myself as a robot and ramble “I did my duty.” in my head to work through it.
this is genuinely one of the coolest concepts in the show. i hope we explore more things like this under russell again.
I want to combine this concept with the silence, because technically there is "nothing" to see and "nothing" to remember.
We kind of got a bit more of the existential threat of nothing outside the Universe with "Wild Blue Yonder" so I think it's safe to say we will be getting more concepts like this!
Space babies!!!!
@@DeepMoon45I wouldn't bet on it. RTD is too busy using Doctor Who to promote his self-insert gay agenda.
Pretty much, @@faithcastillo9597. It's a shame, but a predictable one at this point.
David is just the ultimate Doctor. It's in his eyes❤️
The one thing that gets a doctor truly excited is something he does not know or understand
One of the best written bits of dialogue the Doctor ever gave and Tennant performed that dialogue brilliantly.
Ah, back when there was a good reason to bring the Daleks back. I always wish the Cult of Skaro had been the only Daleks we saw after this, just the same couple who kept coming back and sometimes even winning encounters with the Doctor. Make them seem like a real threat and allow us to get to know just a few recurring characters.
If the Doctor couldn't kill a couple of Daleks, it would make sense for the Timelords to be losing a war against the entire race. Instead of how the Doctor just kills them by the millions every second episode, completely taking away any sense of danger when they're that easily defeated.
Germany killed Russians by the millions every couple days. Who won?
The Doctor is a different breed from other timelords. Daleks are a race who are the horror of every species in the Galaxy. The Doctor is just their natural predator and that's cuz he fought them for so long he knows them inside and out. The other timelords just aint him. When he isn't on the scene, the Daleks are pretty scary to everyone else.
Well the Doctor was pretty good at thinking outside the box.
He beat them this time by reversing the breach and them being sucked in
You've got to remember that the Daleks feared the Doctor, and even his own people feared and respected him. There's a reason for that.
All things fair, the Doctor was nearly always willing to exploit any nuclear option available to him. Hell, by his own admission, he ended both his and the Dalek race by way of complete annihilation. At least as far as the pre-50th anniversary story was concerned
"Outside of time and space"
"What is the void?"
"A *space* ... between dimensions"
The thing that resides within the void ship is the Faceless Void. A creature that can control his position in spacetime and can lock a person in a stasis within a radius or by whacking it with its mace.
This is my favourite finale of Doctor Who.
It's interesting to see how the Doctor explains how the space between universes works (almost like a buffer between them) and how in these voids there is nothing.
The scariest existential concept.
How else would you seperate different reality with possible different laws of physics as well?
@@molybdaen11 I think reality is the existence of all universes and afterlives.
Universes will have their own laws of physics and nature. What might be logical to our universe could be completely different for another
@@molybdaen11There always has to be a opposite of something.
Good-Evil
Everything-Nothing
Heaven-Hell
Up-Down
Left-Right
Beginning-Ending
What makes this special that it has nothing when it should have something maybe everything that's what makes voids so interesting that how can something exist when it is nothing hopefully this helped you.
@@Azathoth343 But - I feel so empty now ;)
@@molybdaen11 lord please cleanse my sins and molys please I beg you.
As soon as he sits down the only thing I can think of is " gather round children"
Introverts: what a lovely place to live in.
The anticipation for this finale was unreal! I remember it being all over the TV magazines in every shop.
I wont lie, teaser at the end of Fear Her ruined the surprise. They previously established what it looks and sounds like when a person is shot by a Dalek, using the same sound and xray vision effect every time it happens. For the life of me i cant think why they would think we wouldnt notice someone obviously being shot by a dalek in the teaser.
To answer the question i thought it was daleks
Exactly. The trailer gave it away.
easy solution to this one: skip fear her
@@leem2155why would you skip an episode, especially when it first aired…
@beef business Why though, the entire episode is building up to this big final reveal hinting towards it being something to do with cybermen but that whole build up is ruined because we already know from the teaser its gonna have daleks in it. The surprise is negated by our prior knowledge.
They did it with again with World Enough and Time the teaser for it literally had the master at the end "give us a kiss" and then they give us Mr. Razor hobbling about sounding suspiciously like John Simm. there's no point in the attempt to surprise the watcher when you spoil the surprise before the episode even airs.
It was sad they did that. The reason tho was because the past 2 episodes (fear her and love and monsters) probably killed some interest, so they needed to push everything to get everyone excited for the finale
It's full of Chaos Spacemarines.
Watching this 15 years ago: "Whoa. Void ships sound scary."
Watching this post 40k exposure: "F*********ck. This is going to hurt."
Well, considering the hyper lethal nature of each in their respective universes, you're not far off in spirit.
Imagine the doctor traveling to the 41st millennium 😅
I don't think he'd jave a good time,@@michaelblower7363. Running and talking as a strategy in 40k would just mean you'll die tired and thirsty.
It's kind of the opposite here though. In 40k normal space is refereed to as the void, not the warp.
I honestly loved the fact that Jackie was standing there like "I swear to god he is insane."😂😂❤❤❤
this is by far, the BEST doctor, im so glad David Tennant got to be him
That dalek/satellite 5 music from series 1 playing in the background. Hinting at what’s really in there
I think the fact it looks like a giant dalek ball gave it away for me
@@mobbs6426 you’d think that but when I watched this on airing I, and a lot of people, were genuinely shocked it was daleks inside. It being a giant gold ball ain’t the obvious giveaway you’d think it is. Especially as to this point we had context that the daleks were all destroyed by bad wolf
@@erosion271 I'm probably just a little older. My siblings were surprised, and I told them the same in that "how did you miss the obvious!?" voive
In the end though, seeing obvious dalek tech was egg on my face cause it's time lord tech, which I suppose they have stolen in the past, but it's heavily implied the time lords put them in there.
So for the life of me, I've absolutely no idea why it's a giant dalek sphere
@@mobbs6426 the void ship isn’t time lord tech the genesis ark is but the void ship was something even the time lords couldn’t create.
@@erosion271 then a who made it
I love the callback to the Eternals in this scene. Now I want to rewatch Enlightenment!
Considering the "true" devil is a thing in this show and is still out there, makes that ship even cooler to me.
I love the way they wrote his line of describing the Void. He describes it from the point of view of his culture and then relates it to Earth. It's small and subtle but it reminds us that the Doctor is indeed alien though he looks human. Also how baller of a name is the Earth "translation" of Hell Ship?!
My boys ran around with polarized 3D glasses looking at how things appeared different in each lense after seeing the doctor wear RG glasses.
If they've still got them, tell em to look at themselves in the mirror with them on and try closing one eye at a time.
I also got a pair of those glasses from a 3d movie awhile back and wore them for a few days just to see what i could see :P
And that same hell void became the 13th Doctor's best friend
Did they reference this episode in that? Did she call it the void?
@@zachh6868 I think she murdered a TARDIS by sending it to the void to kill some Daleks 💔
@@FemboyMax Chris kinda forgot TARDIS’ are living beings.
@@Longshanks1690Frankly, everyone forgets this. It’s not brought up nearly as much as it should be- The Doctor’s Wife and some of Twelve’s run being the rare exceptions.
@@heatherrockwell9012 I don't.
I often forget that Doctor Who isn't just a campy, fun, ball of "timey-wimey" silliness... when I am occasionally reminded of scenes like this that give me chills.
Davies was SUCH a good writer for this show.
I love how he's using 3D glasses to look at the ship, as if that would make it a difference
I honestly sobbed when I realized rose was lost I had no idea what I was getting myself in to.
That was a great double episode.
Dalek vs cyberman, the doctor in top Form, high stakes, drama and great music.
Episodes like this are why I love doctor who
This one is one of my favorite Doctors
I watched starting from Matt Smith on and went back for Christopher eccleston and David Tennant. Due to the order I watched the episodes in. I was fairly certain at the time that the Master was inside.
What did you think when you discovered it was the Daleks and did you find the Master's debut at the end of Season 3 as compelling?
@@corneliusmaze-eye2459 I know you weren't asking me, I've been a Doctor Who fan for over 40 years, I've seen all the non-missing classic episodes over 10 times each, but to this day, Professor Yana showing Martha his fob-watch is still THE moment that still gives me shivers above all else.
The Yana twist really was the forst time on years I genuinely got suprised by. I mean, I thought he was a timelord, but I didnt think he wad THAT timelord.
you took the whole "screw continuity" similarly to the doctor himself.
Please make a whole episode dedicated to the Void!
The closest you can get is "The Doctor's Wife." The problem with exploring the concept of The Void is that you kinda just pop out of existence until you pop back into it.
I miss it when dr who was good. 😭. Hopefully under new management things will return to how it should.
void ship: exists outside time and space
also void ship: is a sphere hovering in this building
Well considering it looks like 2 dalek bumps (as Rowan Atkinson calls them) there is only 2 things. Daleks or Davros. I was actually thinking Davros and Darleks would come out and that would have been really impressive.
Spoilers for the full episode if you haven't seen it yet for whatever reason
Good guess, this actually _is_ a dalek ship!
It was made by the Cult of Skaro (Daleks with a unique level of agency designed to come up with unorthodox methods) who foresaw that they'd be defeated by the timelords and ran away so they could avoid daleks being wiped out
Actually, Rowan’s 9th Doctor called them breasts. It was the Master who insisted they were Dalek bumps that act as etheric beam locators…and everything.
The space between dimensions, nothing something about that line seems pretty cool
Just imagine if Gatwa had even an ounce of David's acting skill
So glad I’m seeing Doctor Who shorts now. Been watching sense it restarted with that Scottish dude. Can’t remember his name but he found Rose and dealt with the “moisturize me” lady on the “cruse space ship”
Christopher Ecclestone. He's not Scottish, he's from Lancashire in the north of England. (Hence Rose's question, "If you're an alien, how come you sound like you're from the north?")
Funnily enough, _Tennant_ is Scottish, but on the rare occasions when his Doctor speaks with a Scottish accent, he's putting it on and implied to be pretty bad at it. :)
Tennant was the best Doctor!!❤️❤️❤️
Hands down
He's the one I joined in on
All of them had their charisma, but 10th was just the perfect attitude
over acted
@@joannefalkinder393 of course!!!!
In your opinion.
The most terrifying thing is that we understand the concept of nothing but we can't imagine it.
Sure I can.
Dark, cold, silent. Nothing to relate to. Impossible to tell if you're moving. Impossible to tell if anything is moving that isn't you. Deep utter black, forever. Floating, like in orbit, unable to exert control over anything. Nothingness has no air. You can't breathe. Choking, dying.
Your corpse is the only occupant of the empty eternity forever. And no one will ever see it, or ever find it.
@@Xahnel Dark, cold and silent are all something.
You are still there witnessing it as an observer.
@@jasperzanovich2504 No, they aren't. Cold isn't a thing, dark isn't a thing, and silent isn't a thing. They are the _absence_ of things. The absence of light, of heat, of sound. I don't understand why people think that if you somehow ended up teleported to the middle of nothing forever that it would anything BUT cold, dark, and silent. Because there is nothing making light, heat or sound.
@@Xahnel you are not even able to grasp to concept of nothing aside of the absence of matter and energy.
Also by your definition you still feel that "nothing".
@@jasperzanovich2504 the absence of matter and energy _is_ nothing, you fecking numpty, stop romanticizing physics, it's not gonna return your feelings.
There is _literally nothing except energy and matter in reality._ That is _all that composes reality._
I can imagine nothingness just fine. Contemplate dying for a while. Sit there and imagine slipping into nonexistence. Incapable of feeling, experiencing, thinking ever again. Think about the absence you feel in sleeping, but forever. And when it feels like you got punched in the stomach by a gorilla, congratulations, you successfully imagined _nothing,_ and your body violently rejected the concept.
People who claim "no one is capable of imagining x" are just the people who are feckin incapable. *I* have no issues, *I* spent a month dealing with spasmes of pain in my gut every time my mind returned to that void as every muscle in my abdomin squeezed my internal organs to make me stop. It took that long just to get used to the concept, so it didn't hurt physically to think about anymore. My mind still drags me to that void, reminds me that the time I have is nothing, a flash in the pan, and I'll be dead, gone forever.
Don't you dare try to ever tell someone what they are and are not _capable of contemplating_ ever again.
I love Tennant's acting during this, the Doctor is genuinely disturbed by this thing
Every now and then, when you think you've had enough of the Dr, a short clip pops up and rekindles the fire.
Only when it concerns good Who though... I'm sure Jody tried but Whoverse died on her regeneration for me....
@AshAsmodeus it was to preachy. I'm not sure about the episode name, but they landed on a planet full of pollution, and they spent 1 hour preaching how humans should recycle more.
I always thought it was a little annoying when they said the void ship gives off no energy, interacts with nothing, and is for all intents and purposes nonexistent, but also clearly showing it has a shiny surface. Meaning it would be super easy to detect it by measuring the light bouncing off of its surface. Kinda like our eyes are doing. If it is what they say, it should have been pure black with no lighting or visible texture of any kind.
Kinda like how only a couple of episodes they stated how orbiting a black hole was impossible....!
I assume that was just an oversight with the effects that nobody caught. I think the intent was for it to just be a black void but somebody added texture to it because they thought it was a physical thing so it should reflect the room lights.
The one time David explained something slowly and without using an example.
Doctor who, making every 14 year old question their existence
“It upsets people because it gives off nothing” sounds like me tbh lol. Kinda explains a lot 😂
Always avoid the void ship
If that episode was released 10 years later, the memes would have been hilarious
I just realized they actually brought this idea back for the wild blue yonder
"A ship that travels through Hell? OH! It's from Warhammer 40K, got it."
"the Eternals call it the Howling" in present tense... WHO ARE THE ETERNALS and what are they to be mentioned in that way right along with the Time Lords???
from classic who, a fifth doctor episode.
They're basically legendary cosmic god like beings who were worshipped by the Time Lords, in the End of Time when Rassilon says "we will ascend to become creatures of consciousness alone" he meant that they wre going to become like the Eternals.
@@daiyahigashikataOK missed that one, I'll go look, any idea what the title was?
@@jeffpettitar1191Enlightenment
The clue was in the shape. The same as the spheres on the Daleks.
I would love nothing more than another season of David Tennant. He was very much "my doctor".
i can't be the only one who loves when he randomly describes something so well and seriously.plus i was completely surprised when daleks came out of it
I get its made up, but I like they tried to make it seem like something that was plausible.
See that's the thing though, they weren't. 10 himself said it was impossible, just a theory, something that could never be. And yet there it is. It is horrifying.
@@optimuprime500 everything is impossible at one point. A Tardis was just a theory to the timelords. Then it wasn't.
Hell, look at most of the doctors tech next to human technology! It's magic compared to us it's so advanced lol
@@NearlyH3adlessNick I see your point, but I feel it sidelines my actual point of the comment. By all intents and purposes that thing shouldn't exist. Not for reason being the technology wasn't advanced enough, but rather how do you build a ship to travel through something you quite literally cannot comprehend?
@@optimuprime500 they were from a different dimension, weren't they? That could mean different tech, different knowledge, and a completely different impossible!!
Just like Timelords and Humans tech difference. Time travel is _impossible_ for us, but not for them. *That* was my point lol
Doctor Who - A series that can make absolute gibberish to sound scientific and logical.. 😏
Because it usually is.
@@optimuprime500 and that's my *favorite* part of Doctor Who: when The Doctor is not only a hero but a teacher, too.
Yet the writers couldn't be bothered to learn the difference between hypothesis and theory 😂
I remember knowing Daleks were involved from the Fear Her preview, but honestly this episode put SO much emphasis on the "ghosts" and built up that side of things in such a way that I was completely baffled and blindsided until the musical cues 😂
David is and will always be the best who!
Finally building up to that Warhammer 40K crossover, I see. The Doctor reluctantly partnering up with the Emperor of Mankind. The two just wondering around the warp, solving mysteries and stopping Slaneeshi Dalek or something, constantly bickering about which of the two of them was the inspiration for Gilgamesh.
The only way I would be ok with Henry Cavil playing the Emperor instead of any other W40k character: He and David playfully bickering back and forth while stopping demons and trying to figure out more about the other
Mostly because I think it would be a waste for him to play the Emp when there are plenty of people who could that, but not many that could play Cavil's range
Back when they SHOWED the story instead of TOLD the story.
I miss good Who.
...said about a scene in which 10 literally has to explain what it is in pure exposition.
@@ElysaraCh The Doctor SHOWS he’s amazed and curious. The others SHOW their fear. It’s the emotion that makes the story. As the audience we feel the emotions of the characters we connect to.
-So, first the writer helps us connect to a character. (He made sure there were different personalities and different walks of life.). THEN he has them SHOW their emotion, and gives the audience time to digest and FEEL what’s going on.
-The timing, or “pacing” is crucial for this to work.
-In the latest DW stories the pacing is so fast, they get hit with one trauma after another, that there’s no time to FEEL what we’re supposed to. And even if they fixed the pacing, the characters simply SAY what emotion is supposed to be portrayed.
-It’s a tragedy, because the stories have fantastic potential.
-I believe an author can write a captivating story about almost anything, IF they show instead of tell with the proper timing.
-You were right about the irony of ten TELLING the other characters about the void ship when I was complaining about TELLING instead of SHOWING a story.
-I hope this makes my previous comment a little more clear.🙂
@@amberklein6893 The very first line of this clip is "this is why it upsets people", which is a TELL by your own definition
It's okay, you're allowed to be biased and Not Like New Things. It's a pretty normal attitude.
@@ElysaraCh 🙄
Commented on a clip that is literally just the doctor telling you the story and not showing you anything but a black CGI circle. Okay 👌
See, THIS is the Doctor.
I remember why I used to like this show.
The void is my literal nightmare.
When i had my existential crisis over what happens after death i imagined it being like the void. But i couldn't wrap my head around having no conscious forever more after death.
Unable to think, see, hear, or touch. Being nothing but unable to know it because you can't.
Gives me the heeby jeebies so i just ignore it in order to remain sane.
And that's why religion exist.
Welcome to the Familly.
@Romuland Meier nah, ain't religious. My dad is partially Buddhist (the most he does is have a statue of Buddha) and my mum was Christian (raised Christian but her divorce went against it).
I wasn't raised religious. I don't really believe in heaven or hell. A bit too black and white for me. And i doubt any god cares about us considering how the last few years has been.
Plus i like to believe in ghosts, i enjoy watching paranormal investigation where crazy stuff happens (with evidence that nothing was tampered or set up).
@@vvgirl6173 You do need no gods or even beliefs to use religion to your benefit.
That's the last secret - it's a powerful tool of the mind, often underestimated as simple superstitious.
I wander if the void is the same place as that "darkness" place anyone in the dr who universe goes when they die like torchwood states, crazy if you could reach the afterlife as an alive person
Remember what it was like before you were born? Of course not. That's exactly what it will be like after you die. There's nothing to fear because you won't exist.
“It gives off nothing” then why can we see it smart guy
That’s the whole point of his project, to try and uncover the secrets of this thing that technically doesn’t exist but everyone can see.
That's the point
When the _Doctor_ is going “yeah this straight up shouldn’t exist”, you know it’s bad news.
Back when Doctor Who was still amazing. I miss the good seasons
Who are the Eternals that Doctor is referring to? Surely not the characters from the MCU. 😊
Nah, I don't think doctor who is part of the Mcu
Eternals in Doctor Who are like Lesser Gods, if we were to power scale Doctor Who then The Guardians> Eternals> Timelords
In the Classic Who story Enlightenment, Eternals have a boat race using Ephemeral (non Eternals e.g humans) crews and designs for the ships (e.g a pirate ship racing an Edwardian navy ship) as a source of entertainment. And in Ghostlight, there was an "angel" Eternal who kept trying to catalogue all life but missing species/ having to start over as they evolved (like a Pokemon player who comes back to the franchise after missing a couple generations going from 721 at the the end of gen 6 in 2016 to 1008 at the start of gen 9 2022)
In NewWho era there's (possibly the Trickster from SJA,) Death (The Skeleton Cloud Owen fights) in Torchwood S2, Zellin & Rayka in Can You Hear Me? from S12 & Time from Flux
Though Tbf Doctor Who was part of Marvel comics for a bit and all Doctor Who is canon, so technically the Marvel Eternals could exist in the whoniverse
The eternals are kind of like doctor who's equivalent of the forerunners (halo). They were a race from before the time lords and before even the current laws of physics had been written, and as a result they had limitless celestial power, possessing no bounds.
@@elliottnoad1270 they're not lesser gods, the parasitic ones maybe compared to they're counterparts cuz there's different types of Eternals, the Multi Celesti for instance were said to be the embodiments of the elements in the universe. Time,Light,Pain,Death etc which imo are pretty damn powerful, the only creatures above the Eternals are The Great Old Ones like the Guardians or the Beast.
Also the Trickster isn't an Eternal, he's apart of the Pantheon of Discord and manifests through Chaos, Eternals don't need to manifest.
@@tobleroneilluminati5048 i would say the Forerunners are more like the Celestials from Marvel and the Eternals are above them (so more like the Precursors) since for example The Didact used advanced technology whereas the Eternals have magic, also Forerunners can die, Eternals cannot (unless they're pulled into the web of time through the time vortex which is what the 7th doctor did to punish a group of them)
I can remember sitting in front of the TV at 6 and seeing that sphere and going " Daleks!" I love this episode
David Tennant, hands down my favorite Doctor Who.
"Yeah try and keep up maaate."
when you realize the lady who originally found the doctor as a child lives in the void in a kind of void space station
"It contains nothing"
2 minutes later
"This is void stuff"
Still the best Doctor. ❤️
My girlfriend thought rose was gonna get sucked inside the void ship and end up in space.
The way he sits, so funny I repeated that for numerous times😂😂😂😂😂
That was such a good line read. I am not a fan of doctor who generally, but it has really really good moments
“Some people call it Hell.” - I now have a new theological theory.
First Dr. Who episode I saw! Got me hooked!
I like how this is pretty much the only time in sci fi where traveling through time is easier than traveling through space.
I love the "Void" as a topic/theory or anything I just really like it for some reason.
It's high time Murray Gold was recognised in the New years honours list for sheer talent.
I love these little clips from great episodes
Doctor: "I thought it was just a theory"
Me: "A Film Theory"
Man. I remember when this series was a must see, look forward to every week show. Seeing how far it’s fallen is kinda sad.
They always conflate dimensions with parallel universes in Dr Who with the latter being more accurate.
"Containing nothing"
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