You don't have to be a socialist to contribute group effort as a part of a community. It could even be argued (though i don't argue it), that socialism is when people are forced to make group efforts because they can't be trusted to doing it themselves.
lord buss I don’t think you (or some random other person) can make that argument. Why and how is that related to workers owning the means of production?
In King's Quest 3, there is a dog. You can pet the dog. There is a speedrun category to pet the dog as fast as possible. Sometimes, speedrunning really is just about having fun and nothing more.
makes me wonder what physical sports would be like if they were governed by the community like this. things like swimming, tennis, basketball, etc. people constantly coming up with new categories which _are_ still tests of skill, the skills are just sillier and maybe more fun.
Among the best parts of the stream (ignoring the amount raised and practically all of left tube showing up at various points) was watching Harris slowly losing faith in his idea to play the game. My favourite comment was his 46 hour cry of "WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUCKING LONG WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THIS"
Relatively recently a streamer I watch called Boba accidentally broke Metal Gear Solid by going through a wall after being hit, and the MGS speedrunning community exploded. She was just having fun playing the game for the first timeand completely flipped the whole game upside down and it's so cool how that can happen over 20 years later and years after the last big speedrunning time save for that game, I think that's a beautiful thing about speedrunning.
While Contrapoints and Philosophy Tube are working very hard to make their videos prettier and more sexy, you are committed to being as flatly lit and disheveled as ever. Love you. Never Change
Unironically this is right. I hate the overproduction. Imagine how expensive that is. Imagine how much time they could have spent on other shit. Imagine if they had used the money for things other than ✨OOO SHINY✨
Imagine if they didn't do that and instead created content that they don't like because they think it's ugly. Imagine what that would do to their motivation to produce more content.
I think my favorite speedrunning story is the time that the world record for Twilight Princess low% actually went up by an obscene amount of time because someone found a trick that involves staring at an idle animation for hours at a time but skips a previously unskippable item
Something similar happened in Hollow Knight with essence farming. Optimizing routing for most categories: oh hell yeah, I'll need to grind new muscle memory but this should shave off some time! Optimizing for low%: I'm gonna need to stock another energy drink, aren't I?
Diddy Kong Racing is about nature vs. technology. Wizpig represents the machinery of modern industrial society, encroaching upon the natural world of Donkey Kong Island, because his home planet, Future Fun Land, has some machines on it. But there is complexity here, for the jungle animals are already participating in this mechanized system with the cars and planes they are already driving. This makes the player realize that they, too, are complicit in Wizpig's exploitation of natural resources.
My favorite part of speedruns is imagining someone within the reality of the game seeing it happen. Like someone on the street seeing Faith Connors two-foot-stomp and super kick her way from building to building like Spiderman. The HL1 in 20 minutes speedrun is my favorite ever because all I can think about is being one of those marines and seeing Gordon Freeman holding a huge wooden crate bunny-hop past at 100 mph and just vanish into a wall. How would you even process that
I like seeing the glitchless speedruns where it's all skill based and I like seeing runs that are full of as many glitch exploits as possible. The former feels like watching the olympics, the latter feels like watching someone figure out a puzzle, and it gives me some insight into what's going on 'behind the curtain' of the game as well.
@@fwooooosh3675 "i feel like glitchless speedruns where its all skill based" "[any%] feels like watching someone figure out a puzzle" Learn english, weeb.
You could have routed it better. Even at 2X playback there's all these silent moments and other useless drek that you can skip. A sub-21 is absolutely possible.
IMO the most fascinating part of speedrunning is the strange duality that exists between TAS speedrunners and conventional speedrunners. The TAS community acts almost as the R&D wing for the conventional speedrunners, they find routes that are theoretically possible yet not currently doable by humans, and the conventional speedrunners attempt to make these tricks come to fruition by human hands. It's quite a neat example of two communities that were once at odds coming together and benefiting eachother.
It never ceases to amuse or fascinate me how many times a run comes up for GDQ and the commentary is like "So this is a trick that TAS runners found a while ago and thought to be impossible, but we do it all the time now."
I remember a video of Summoning Salt about a Super Mario Bros level. There was TAS speedrun with a glitch that wasn't thought to be humanly possible to exploit, years later somebody does it of course, and then somebody else beat that speedrun with another glitch as hard, or more, than the TAS speedrun. And the story behind all of that felt like a scientific discovery of the century.
I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning" The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario')
omg when I was a kid EVERY OTHER KID I KNEW couldn't beat that stupid arcade game to finish the game Also, that hidden rainbow coin makes me wonder how many games still have hidden little things that have yet to be discovered. How many things will NEVER be discovered? Even the most popular of games like Mario 64, people are STILL finding new things, it's absolutely amazing.
Hey hbomberguy, I'm Phillotrax (Mirror's Edge World Record holder), thanks for making this video, it's always great for speedrunning - especially Mirror's Edge - to gain a wider audience. I'd just like to respond to some of the points you made about Mirror's Edge because I think it would be interesting to compare how the views of a more casual viewer of speedruns might differ from those of a more "hardcore" runner and the Mirror's Edge speedrunning community. 18:00: "Use [out of bounds] to get to places meant to be reached through harder or slower means" At least in Mirror's Edge, the intended route is never harder than performing an out of bounds skip to reach it faster. What you don't see in this clip is the precise timing of each action I take, and the invisible walls and death triggers that I have to navigate around. You seem to imply that using glitches makes playing the game easier, when it's really the opposite. 18:13: "It also runs counter to the sort of principles that make Mirror's Edge the game you'd want to see speedrun, doesn't it?" I'd have to disagree with you here. Yes, Mirror's Edge is a game all about motion, finesse, clever use of controls, and timing - and the techniques we use take these principles from a casual playthrough of the game and amplify them to the extreme. Implying that to "clip through it and then just win" does not use these aspects of the game, contrasts my view that the speedrun of Mirror's Edge takes the precise inputs, pinpoint timing and deep movement mechanics that made the game so amazing in the first place, and turns it up to 11. 18:30: "Part of the fun of speedrunning is watching a game being played very skilfully" The tricks you see in an any% speedrun take an absurd level of skill and knowledge about the game to execute. Some people don't enjoy watching them, which is fair enough, but it is just wrong for people to say that they do not require skill. 19:20: "Maybe not the sort of stuff it's fun to see specifically in a speedrun of this type of game" As you say this is subjective, but my view here is that these precise movements are exactly what you'd want to see in a speedrun of this type of game. The beauty of the movement mechanics of Mirror's Edge is that they all flow beautifully into one another, even using wallboosts, sidesteps and kickglitches , and the reason, for me, that the speedrun is so good is because every action you do needs to be precise and calculated. 19:28: "The community seems to agree with me.." General fans of Mirror's Edge might agree that glitches are less interesting, but the speedrunning community most definitely disagrees that these movement focused and precise glitches are not what you'd want to see in a game focused on movement and precision. 20:06: "All kinds of segments that are completely avoided by fairly easy tricks in any% have to actually be played and routed properly in glitchless" The tricks that skip segments of the game in any% shouldn't be generalised as being "fairly easy". Typically they are much, much harder to do that it would be to go through the section of the level. 20:35 The message here again seems to be that using glitches takes less skill than using glitchless techniques. Whilst this jump might be hard for a new player, it really isn't that difficult compared to "abusing the wall kick jump [kickglitch] to effectively fly over the challenging gap" which requires precise timing to control your speed, angle and jump input. I think the reason for the common misconception that because something is a glitch, it must be easy to abuse, is because players familiar with the game don't understand what is being done. 21:35: "Maybe clipping through walls should be seen as just a valid a strategy as not doing so" My opinion here is that both any% and glitchless are valid ways of running the game, but can be considered entirely separate. It doesn't need to be a 'which is the right way to beat the game' debate. To me, it's like asking whether a sprint or hurdles is the most valid way to run along a 100m track. There's no point comparing them because they're entirely different, equally valid ways of covering the distance. You agree with this point later on. 23:00 To me, the reason you seem to like 69 stars is the same reason I love the any% runs - it requires 'great performances' of 'really precise movements'. The way you say "It's Awesome" here is so great. I can hear the same kind of awe and wonder I felt when I got into speedrunning Mirror's Edge. I just think it's a shame that people discount any% runs because they don't think it requires the same level of precise movement as glitchless or 69 stars does. 23:23 Voh - tee - em 25:20 I love the focus you put here on the community of speedrunning - this is often overlooked, but especially in Mirror's Edge the community of runners is great and the primary reason the game is as optimised and fun to run as it is. Overall I really enjoyed this video, but am just disappointed that it seems to propel the notion that any% runs which require glitches and not skill, whereas glitchless runs require skill and not glitches. Glitches and skill are not mutually exclusive and most of the time, glitches take more practice, understanding, and skill than the intended route would. I would love to answer any more questions that you might have about speedrunning as a whole or Mirror's Edge speedrunning specifically.
This comment deserves some more visibility. I agree that OOB runs can take a massive amount of skill and precision. The only thing I dislike about OOB is that for most of them I can't tell what is going on. Sometimes OOB routes spend a massive amount of time in the void and it makes the run hard to follow. However in the clips he showed of Mirrors Edge, OOB looked pretty cool. You are still doing movement tech you were doing in the other segments which makes it easy to follow along with. Obviously it's personal preference, but I typically enjoy glitchless, or at least non OOB runs the best. It's not a hard and fast rule but I like being able to see what is going on and where people are. It's an interesting balance to try and find something that's exciting to watch and also very fast. It's one of the reasons I love GDQ because sometimes the runners have to pick runs which are more visually interesting.
Yeah that confused me a little, I've always found all the game-breaking stuff and frame perfect level warps or whatever much more fascinating to watch. I can play the game normally myself.
This video is in an essay form. He first explores the "conventional" idea of speedrunning as playing well, then expands to why the other methods are valid, interesting and complement each other. It's the whole "thesis, antithesis, synthesis" of dialectics. Maybe you should skip your defensiveness and start this speedrun on the part that you agree with him in that both are valid for different reasons. As for why "the community agrees with him", it's because the glitchess category exists in the first place. If everyone agreed with you that any% is more skillful, better to watch and completely in the spirit of the game, why would anyone choose to go slower? You can see that glitchless is not a "gimmick" run, it's what a lot of people prefer. You gotta admit that there's always an arbitrary ruleset that appeals to some aesthetic. Even any% has them: why don't you just inject some code into the game and run the credits? What about running in an emulator, using savestates? That's not allowed, still, there's a Pokemon any% that consists entirely of manipulating the game's memory to warp into the final room and the Doom 2016 speedrun requires you to have high FPS to execute rail jumps. These distinctions are arbitrary and don't always translate to skill (unless buying a good graphics card or memorizing a short sequence of inputs be considered skill). For my sensibilities (and I would argue, most "casuals"), I want to see fluidity more than speed, and major glitches tend to ruin that. You can argue all you want about how difficult it is to do a 10x frame perfect this or that, I still don't care to watch someone walking off the same step a repeatedly until they glitch through the floor and walk directly to the exit or spend 5 minutes arranging their inventory because it's causing an overflow. It's anticlimactic. It's not what I tuned in to watch. This is not "the myth that glitches are easier", it's the reality that they obviously make it easier to achieve the real goal of a faster time, even if they make it harder to get to the end. They bypass the anticipation a regular player has of what your hurdles are. In your analogy, it would be like watching someone run a 100m track with hurdles vs watching someone else run it much faster from outside (the bounds) of the track and then gloat as it's really hard not to twist your ankles when you don't have a smooth concrete surface like those "casuals" in the track.
Its all about perception, right? This is why summoning salt does such a service to the community. This whole comment is the reason that it's frequently the case that any% speedruns are actually far more impressive than glitchless despite being shorter. However, an uninformed audience simply won't know everything that went into those glitches unless they do the research or watch an available summoning salt video on the game. Has SS done mirrors edge yet? When he does Hbomb is gonna have to do that black firebomb bit for ME as well lol
One of my favorite things about the phrase "fighting fire with fire" is that it can actually be useful at times. For example, to fight forest fires, foliage is often cleared using flamethrowers to prevent the forest fire from spreading, literally fighting fire with fire.
The soviets nuked an out of control natural gas fire one time. It burned for over 1000 days straight before they exhausted every option and literally nuked it. The ultimate form of fighting fire with fire!
I personally prefer the speedruns where the game gets absolutely broken. It feels like peeling away the skin to reveal what makes it tick, and frankly it's wild what kind of skill it takes to perfectly time glitches and exploits. I still think about the Super Mario 64 0.5 A presses every so often
hbomberguy, the part of the video where you show the Ocarina of Time speedrun completing actually brought tears to my eyes. Your video is very moving - I did not expect to be so touched by speedrunning, but you managed to capture the heart of gaming at its very core. Thank you for your videos, thank you for your charity, and good luck with those bananas. They're well earned
That part. It really is just... so beautiful. I have a lot of personal reasons why the stream that followed this video touched my heart, but this tiny moment captured here seems emblematic of something I am reeling from, having just discovered his channel. Everything video hbomberguy makes has this pure heart of sincerity and loving appreciation. I just have no words, I am sitting here tears streaming down my face, in awe.
Mirror's Edge: "motion sickness, might be bad for your brain." Me: "Pfffffff" Video: [shows like two seconds of Mirror's Edge] Me: "Nice, I'm motion sick now. Why did no one tell me?????"
17:24 - _"Playing Mirror's Edge as fast as you can, and then going online and checking out a speedrun is a really fun experience."_ I got a similar feeling to this whilst playing Celeste. I'd beaten all the A-sides a couple of times before checking out the speedrunning community. It was amazing watching people absolutely destroy a stage in seconds, especially one that took you ages to beat.
I had a dream you put out a video called "Steven Universe Exists and here's why" and I watched it but as soon as I got into the video you just started talking about bugs what they're made out of and then you brought in some politician dude who looked kinda like Ted Cruz and started arguing with him about bugs then you went away and it was just him talking about bugs and then I woke up. I thought you'd like to know that.
To be honest, that's less odd than his Sonic/CAD/The Room/Penny Arcade video. If he actually made that video, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. And it would definitely have some extremely insightful and bogglingly simple commentary on Steven Universe, bugs, politicians, and humanity itself all at once. Fuck, I want to see that video now.
It’s pretty normal to see the worst parts of speedrun exploited for views ie “cringe compilations” and other crap like that, so I’m really glad to see a video like this that talks about how amazing of a hobby speedrunning can be.
The worst moment was when that one guy failed at the last boss when trying a dark souls 1, 2 AND 3 no damage run. But he tried again and succeeded! Yay!
remember being so disheartened when I looked up the most popular videos people had clipped from the Games Done Quick twitch channel and a bunch of them were basically LOLing at a trans host being misgendered. :/
For Americans and non-football/soccer fans who may not know, what makes the pronunciation of “Gascoigne” at 14:32 even funnier is that there was a pretty famous English footballer in the 80s and 90s named Paul Gascoigne, meaning that HBomb had undoubtedly heard the name pronounced correctly on TV several times and should definitely be able to say it properly.
This video and the results of the subsequent stream mean a lot to me. Its life-affirming in a way I can't properly describe, and it genuinely gives me a great deal of hope. Thanks for that.
I totally agree. I have several friends who have gotten into speed running and it never made sense to me why someone would pour hundreds or thousands of hours into an incredibly niche and ‘useless’ skill. But then I watch this, and I get it. The DK stream is such a legendary piece of internet history. As a trans girl, HBomb has had our back for years ❤️
@@unocualqu1era i took it more as hbomberguy mocking himself for looking so deeply into every topic as opposed to taking things at face value. You know, a joke that's mildly self deprecating but harmless otherwise. Also known as something that would be a hard waste of emotional energy to get offended over...
37:28 "Trying something over and over again and getting better and better and learning new secrets and strategies" This is also exactly what's happening in research community. I am a computer science researcher who's also interested in gaming, and I find speedrunning community is so similiar to research community.
As a science nerd, I think that's partially why I love the speedrunning community. Especially when it's not so competitive that you feel like your gonna get your head bitten off. It feels like a big community wanting to learn more and do this one thing better and better and work together and combine their knowledge to do so. It just feels like a PvE with a huge boss raid on an MMORPG and I love it. It's like, super satisfying, even if you aren't the one doing it.
This is excellent content. You had material and script here for 3, maybe 4 videos and you didn't milk the shit out of it with parts 1,2,3,4, final, extra, PLUS, Alpha. You did a full, coherent, comprehensive and detailed explanation on why speedrun is so damn fun and you didn't sell out to any formulaic bullshit. This is some of the best content I have seen in months, maybe years in youtube. Really, dude, congratulations. Edit: I'm totally subscribing and showing this to anyone who I think might be interested in your content, your past self better be prepared, because I'm gonna binge watch your shit.
i think i'll always remember the time that i unintentionally discovered a glitch in an indie game that, upon sharing it with the speedrunning community of the game, nobody else had found before. it was just really great. we came up with a name for the glitch, and i went back and tested it over and over again to see exactly what caused it, how i could cause it in a way that's more efficient, etc. i felt like i had contributed something to the world, even though it was so small. one glitch in a dlc of a game, appreciated only by the small speedrunning community of a game that already overall has a very small community. i've never really even been a speedrunner myself, but even just seeing a small glimpse into the speedrunning community made me really happy-- especially with most communities in gaming being incredibly toxic.
Compared to a lot of the trash that came out on the N64 DK64 is pretty average. My biggest complaint is that it’s too easy to beat. But if HBomb is trying to collect every color of banana AND the golden bananas, he’s screwed.
It's very possible. I did an 101% LP of it several years ago, and practicing for that required me to play through it *twice.* IT's grueling, to say the least. Doing it so many times as to speedrun it, though? THAT way lies true madness and broken souls. God save those who no longer cannot save themselves.
Jesus Christ... I forgot how much DK64 ruined my life. I beat that game as a teenager in 1999 and I was so broken by the end that when I defeated king k rule in the boxing ring I swore I’d never play it again. During the almost 20yrs since I’ve looked at that banana yellow cartridge and with sweet nostalgia, like arsenic in my cola, I thought about playing it again, but have been unable to since my N64 is missing the expansion pack that I loaned my cousin and he never returned. Watching this flooded my memory and I began to feel that familiar tension in my neck and chest... I never want to play that game again... Ever.
My current record at any% on this video is 0.2s (sliding the bar on my phone at portrait mode), but 100% glitchess is 21.69 minutes, and it may be a hard cap
I enjoy watching speedruns of my favorite games. Something about it so fascinating to me, seeing people speeding through a game and making it look easy is always a treat.
What’s fantastic about this video is that by the end when he promises to do the DK64 100% run, a new, wonderful, heartwarming story is born, effectively validating all the reasons why speed running is awesome. Speed running is probably the most human activity in the modern era, and it brings me so much comfort knowing that a community of people that is inherently collaborative and personal exists.
So if speedrunning is an inherently collectivist activity, and playing videogames is an aspect of our culture, does that make speedrunning the real cultural marxism?
It is actually. There's loads of skips you can do in Sonic 2 and even playing a 100% run the level of optimisation available is pretty insane. It's an easy game to pick up, but hard to truly master to get to speedrun speed. The master of speedrun videos, Summoning Salt, did a video on it.
@@NagromVoice I have a question for you. What do you play Sonic 2 on? I recently bought it on the Xbox Store and it just feels off to me. I grew up playing the game on the Genesis (In storage otherwise I'd just play it on there) and I'm not sure if it's me or the port but it just doesn't feel as good as it should.
@@cocothesocialist3690 I thought it's just gas-con. Most letters in French are just there to fuck with you. PEUGEOT? It's Pejo, half of them are silent. Renault?1 It's Reno, -ault, aka MORE THAN HALF OF THE WORD is silent. Queque - all letters are silent except Q. Gasєэeghjjkkktrcыph78sfdїwn69%$#@kzdo0дleypuff№ю = Gascon.
Turtle Anton a secret which was already discovered had a bug which caused it to not trigger the “secret found” message, meaning that the game would be at 99% permanently. Someone found a way to trigger the message, thus truly completing Doom 2 100% for the first time in history.
God dammit it is 4am and Hbomb just uploaded a 40-minute video essay and I have to wait until morning to watch it... Why, Harris? Why must you torment me like this?
Remember that tweet from some alt-right guy who claimed that speedrunners playing a game fast instead of playing it well was emblematic of the culture of the left? I kinda wish that tweet had been twit back in 2018 so it could have been referenced in this video,
I used to be one of those "just play the game" anti speedrun types until I started watching Karl Jobst videos and realized I was wrong about everything and stupid. But specifically I thought all speed running was was the glitch heavy 'see how fast the game CAN be beaten using whatever possible method' which never really sat right with me, but then I realized that probably every single game has multiple categories including beating without glitches like that but THEN I also realized that even the methods using glitches are a fucking science unto their own and that they are also badass. The amount of time and effort these guys put into these games is incredible and watching them pull these things off and getting world/personal records is awesome. I'm still not super into it(just in that I'm a fan but really just a casual observer) but I've done a complete 180 and hope everyone that thinks like I used to gets a chance to see speed running for what it is. Edit - also the scandals around cheating are so interesting I think that's probably how I initially got into it, seeing some of KJ's videos about people getting caught cheating and having to pause and Google all these terms and stuff and getting to learn about the ins and outs
At the start of the video I thought about making a joke about me (a runner) clicking on a speedrunning video, but after watching this I just want to talk about what an amazing video this was! Am interesting side note: I think and most importantly feel that the feeling of accomplishment that speedrunning can give you is extremely similar to the accomplishment ultrarunning can give you. After running 100km or 100 miles you feel am incredible amount of emotions of all kind.
The black fire bomb bit has me in absolute tears from laughter. I'm wheezing harder than Muttley over here; nearly woke up my girlfriend two rooms over.
I'm severely late to the party because I'm stubborn and I didn't want to start watching hbomberguy JUST because of the hype. As a result, when I came across this video I didn't realize that it was the one made prior to the famous stream. It literally had me sobbing with joy as I watched in my bed. There is something so innately human about persistence and resilience, and especially the way people bond through empathy. We could all *feel* the LoZ player's pure joy as he achieved his record, and I'm so incredibly happy that this moment helped spark a moment where the whole world could chance to dream of real, lasting change. Thank you, Harris Bomberguy. You'll see me in your patreon soon
I just want to acknowledge that a game like mirror’s edge would never come out in the modern gaming industry. It’s experimental, a new ip, AAA funded, genre defining and fully single player. And I love it to bits.
Games like mirrors edge come out a ton You just gotta not focus on all the mediocre things releasing from studios that wanna see how fast they can ride themselves into a hole of noone wanting to play their games despite intense marketing What's more, what do you mean by "modern gaming industry", I swear people have been complaining about that since more than 10 years already. It's easy to notice only the grandiose games when looking back in time, in 10 years noone will be remembering games like destiny and Pokemon Legends particularly much, there'll be far more talk about games such as DOOM, God of War and Sekiro
Single player games like that come out a lot, the thing is though people generally don’t talk about them as much, and people generally move on as the finish the game/
I've been swimming competitively for many years and I fully get the high of doing things slightly better and understand the mechanics so well that at gets close to abusing. learning about hydrodynamics etc and learning about nutritioun etc just to shave off milliseconds. I have gotten into watching speed runs a few years ago and its amazing to see.
Took a break from doing my taxes to sit down and watch this
tax paying speedrun
Life: Tax Fraud%
I was just taking a shit
Demographics are fun.
I too am old.
I did not expect to see you in a speedrun video comments, woah
“Speedrunning isnt always about socialism sometimes its about playing a game very fast” best quote
Ethan Winchester no i think “it’s radical. cOMraDicaL!”
I was literally on that part when I read this comment 🤣
@@sirrivet9557 you sir, are my favourite
You don't have to be a socialist to contribute group effort as a part of a community. It could even be argued (though i don't argue it), that socialism is when people are forced to make group efforts because they can't be trusted to doing it themselves.
lord buss I don’t think you (or some random other person) can make that argument. Why and how is that related to workers owning the means of production?
“Nobody’s managed to stop me so far” nothing could describe this channel better
@Sooty how was being drunk?
@@zayalabi9080 I too want to know
@Sooty i hope you enjoyed the drunkness
Sooty I would also adore the chance to know what it was like to be intoxicated.
Nobody:
Everyone: what's it like to be drunk?
It's so wierd seeing Hbomb with hair since I started watching him during his mad scientist arc
same lol i joined in at the plagarist vid
Yeah I thought he was BH Ultra for a sec
can't wait for hbomb to discover the cookieclicker speedrun subcategory where you make real cookies as fast as possible
I'm sorry, what?
@@suitguy969 Cookie clicker is a great game which is a simulator for the nightmare of capitalism
@@suitguy969speedrunning gets pretty zany sometimes
real cookie%
And the Pencil Sharpener Simulator real life category
In King's Quest 3, there is a dog. You can pet the dog.
There is a speedrun category to pet the dog as fast as possible.
Sometimes, speedrunning really is just about having fun and nothing more.
love that lol. somewhere a person can honestly say, “yeah i’ve got the world record for KQ3 dog%” and if it isn’t dog% it should be
@@LiarJudas666
Even better-it's "Doge%".
@@ob2kenobi388 that rules. i love speedrunning community
@@LiarJudas666
OneShortEye has a lot of videos about speedruns, including KQ3! You should check out their stuff!
makes me wonder what physical sports would be like if they were governed by the community like this. things like swimming, tennis, basketball, etc. people constantly coming up with new categories which _are_ still tests of skill, the skills are just sillier and maybe more fun.
I can't believe Tommy Tallarico was the first American to speedrun Dark Souls
his mother is very proud
I can’t believe James Somerton plagiarized Tommy Tallarico
@@ethanmoras6440James' speedrun was so poorly executed compared to Tommy's (read: Joey's)
this comment is like a Diddy Kong item that you have to return to a previously played level to access
Not only that. He also recorded the death scream for Demon's Souls back in 1969
"Why would you run Mirror's Edge for 17 hours on a meme category?!"
*58 hours of Donkey Kong 64 later*
mirrors edge isn't fun though.
dk 64 is super fun anyone who thinks otherwise is gonna catch these little arthritic hands.
Also one aoc saying trans rights
@@theoristnumber1173 Harris is currently the only person who's done an AOC% run, it's very rare
He had sleeps tho
Harris Bomberguy, 2019, 32 hours into dk64: I take it back, speed running is silly. No one should do this.
Among the best parts of the stream (ignoring the amount raised and practically all of left tube showing up at various points) was watching Harris slowly losing faith in his idea to play the game. My favourite comment was his 46 hour cry of "WHY IS THIS GAME SO FUCKING LONG WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THIS"
I love that he was judging that 25x guy for streaming for 17h
"let us not go to speedrun. it is a silly place"
that skater kid got off on it pretty hard though... i mean , if that's what does it for you it's your business .
but hey, donkey Kong says trans rights.
Relatively recently a streamer I watch called Boba accidentally broke Metal Gear Solid by going through a wall after being hit, and the MGS speedrunning community exploded. She was just having fun playing the game for the first timeand completely flipped the whole game upside down and it's so cool how that can happen over 20 years later and years after the last big speedrunning time save for that game, I think that's a beautiful thing about speedrunning.
oh thats so funny. i love the stories that you get with these communities
While Contrapoints and Philosophy Tube are working very hard to make their videos prettier and more sexy, you are committed to being as flatly lit and disheveled as ever. Love you. Never Change
but he has 'uigi
@@1WEareBUFO1 'uigi absolves all sins
Unironically this is right.
I hate the overproduction. Imagine how expensive that is. Imagine how much time they could have spent on other shit. Imagine if they had used the money for things other than ✨OOO SHINY✨
Imagine if they didn't do that and instead created content that they don't like because they think it's ugly. Imagine what that would do to their motivation to produce more content.
@@DuTuben32 Gross Overexpendature in the name of needless perfectionism isn't an improvement
I think my favorite speedrunning story is the time that the world record for Twilight Princess low% actually went up by an obscene amount of time because someone found a trick that involves staring at an idle animation for hours at a time but skips a previously unskippable item
Its been a full year??? Time waits for no man i guess
Something similar happened in Hollow Knight with essence farming.
Optimizing routing for most categories: oh hell yeah, I'll need to grind new muscle memory but this should shave off some time!
Optimizing for low%: I'm gonna need to stock another energy drink, aren't I?
Hilarious
Very good video but I'm still in need for the serious lore analysis of Diddy Kong Racing.
Maybe you can start it all of with a detailed explanation of the rise of Wizpig and his regime?
WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE DK RAP I NEED TO KNOW
Diddy Kong Racing is about nature vs. technology. Wizpig represents the machinery of modern industrial society, encroaching upon the natural world of Donkey Kong Island, because his home planet, Future Fun Land, has some machines on it. But there is complexity here, for the jungle animals are already participating in this mechanized system with the cars and planes they are already driving. This makes the player realize that they, too, are complicit in Wizpig's exploitation of natural resources.
I hate to admit it but game theory did a serious lore analysis of the donkey kong country franchise
when all my fave leftist youtubers love vidya
My favorite part of speedruns is imagining someone within the reality of the game seeing it happen. Like someone on the street seeing Faith Connors two-foot-stomp and super kick her way from building to building like Spiderman. The HL1 in 20 minutes speedrun is my favorite ever because all I can think about is being one of those marines and seeing Gordon Freeman holding a huge wooden crate bunny-hop past at 100 mph and just vanish into a wall. How would you even process that
I'd probably turn into Agent Smith and hunt him down for a good sharp monologue about order. And of course, Purpose.
Headcanon accepted
Mozart did a music speedrun
I love it.
6 minutes now
I like seeing the glitchless speedruns where it's all skill based and I like seeing runs that are full of as many glitch exploits as possible. The former feels like watching the olympics, the latter feels like watching someone figure out a puzzle, and it gives me some insight into what's going on 'behind the curtain' of the game as well.
He thinks frame perfect, sub degree angle perfect, single frame button presses require less skill than just playing the game as intended. lmao.
@@timhorton8085 bruh he has literally never said this
@@fwooooosh3675 "i feel like glitchless speedruns where its all skill based"
"[any%] feels like watching someone figure out a puzzle"
Learn english, weeb.
@@timhorton8085 this username was something i set years ago that i havent figured out how to change unfortunately :/
@@timhorton8085 and you just implied that puzzles never require skill, precision, or quick thinking
I used 2x speed and did a speedrun of this video in 21.9 minutes
There's also a credits warp that can be executed by going out of bounds to the comments and clicking on this: 42:25
@@H2ODrinkIt thanks for the trick, i finished the run in 00:12.468 with this warp
You could have routed it better. Even at 2X playback there's all these silent moments and other useless drek that you can skip. A sub-21 is absolutely possible.
I increased the speed to 4x with an extension and speedran it in just under 11 minutes, but I reckon that's a different category.
Haha I sped it up to 4x speed by recording it, uploading it sped up, and then using 2x speed!
IMO the most fascinating part of speedrunning is the strange duality that exists between TAS speedrunners and conventional speedrunners. The TAS community acts almost as the R&D wing for the conventional speedrunners, they find routes that are theoretically possible yet not currently doable by humans, and the conventional speedrunners attempt to make these tricks come to fruition by human hands. It's quite a neat example of two communities that were once at odds coming together and benefiting eachother.
The dialectic of theory and praxis or somethng
Research versus Applied Science.
It never ceases to amuse or fascinate me how many times a run comes up for GDQ and the commentary is like "So this is a trick that TAS runners found a while ago and thought to be impossible, but we do it all the time now."
This times 100. The TAS, Runners, Routers/Mappers - it all makes a great community.
I remember a video of Summoning Salt about a Super Mario Bros level. There was TAS speedrun with a glitch that wasn't thought to be humanly possible to exploit, years later somebody does it of course, and then somebody else beat that speedrun with another glitch as hard, or more, than the TAS speedrun. And the story behind all of that felt like a scientific discovery of the century.
"Speedrunning isn't always about Socialism. Sometimes it's about beating video games very quickly:" - Harry Bomberguy
I was thinking about why so many in the radical left participate in "speedrunning"
The reason is the left's lack of work ethic ('go fast' rather than 'do it right') and, in a Petersonian sense, to elevate alternative sexual archetypes in the marketplace ('fastest mario')
@@edgeman1135 Shadow what the fuck are you talking about?
@@absolutelynotgriffith1954 i think they're joking
I love doing it for fun and testing my skills.
std bomb was my nickname in college
Step Back History so you were stdbomberguy?
Hot
I feel sorry for the men and women who lost their virginity to you,... Those poor bastards😔
+Step Back History were you bullied by someone nicknamed "black firebomb" ?
(sorry, first thing I thought when I read your comment)
omg when I was a kid EVERY OTHER KID I KNEW couldn't beat that stupid arcade game to finish the game
Also, that hidden rainbow coin makes me wonder how many games still have hidden little things that have yet to be discovered. How many things will NEVER be discovered? Even the most popular of games like Mario 64, people are STILL finding new things, it's absolutely amazing.
A LOT. People are discovering secrets in Super Mario Brothers recently, imagine newer games!
Fancy meeting you here
I remember being stuck on it the arcade part for months. Eventually beat it but damn...
I love you Nitro Rad
Yes
i'm sorry but i always come back to this video just to hear "they're... more deadly than std bomb... what?" its perfect
3:33
XD
_* B L A C K F I R E B O M B S*_
@@philiphunt-bull5817 *w h a t a g a r b a g e o p t i o n*
Hey hbomberguy, I'm Phillotrax (Mirror's Edge World Record holder), thanks for making this video, it's always great for speedrunning - especially Mirror's Edge - to gain a wider audience.
I'd just like to respond to some of the points you made about Mirror's Edge because I think it would be interesting to compare how the views of a more casual viewer of speedruns might differ from those of a more "hardcore" runner and the Mirror's Edge speedrunning community.
18:00: "Use [out of bounds] to get to places meant to be reached through harder or slower means"
At least in Mirror's Edge, the intended route is never harder than performing an out of bounds skip to reach it faster. What you don't see in this clip is the precise timing of each action I take, and the invisible walls and death triggers that I have to navigate around. You seem to imply that using glitches makes playing the game easier, when it's really the opposite.
18:13: "It also runs counter to the sort of principles that make Mirror's Edge the game you'd want to see speedrun, doesn't it?"
I'd have to disagree with you here. Yes, Mirror's Edge is a game all about motion, finesse, clever use of controls, and timing - and the techniques we use take these principles from a casual playthrough of the game and amplify them to the extreme. Implying that to "clip through it and then just win" does not use these aspects of the game, contrasts my view that the speedrun of Mirror's Edge takes the precise inputs, pinpoint timing and deep movement mechanics that made the game so amazing in the first place, and turns it up to 11.
18:30: "Part of the fun of speedrunning is watching a game being played very skilfully"
The tricks you see in an any% speedrun take an absurd level of skill and knowledge about the game to execute. Some people don't enjoy watching them, which is fair enough, but it is just wrong for people to say that they do not require skill.
19:20: "Maybe not the sort of stuff it's fun to see specifically in a speedrun of this type of game"
As you say this is subjective, but my view here is that these precise movements are exactly what you'd want to see in a speedrun of this type of game. The beauty of the movement mechanics of Mirror's Edge is that they all flow beautifully into one another, even using wallboosts, sidesteps and kickglitches , and the reason, for me, that the speedrun is so good is because every action you do needs to be precise and calculated.
19:28: "The community seems to agree with me.."
General fans of Mirror's Edge might agree that glitches are less interesting, but the speedrunning community most definitely disagrees that these movement focused and precise glitches are not what you'd want to see in a game focused on movement and precision.
20:06: "All kinds of segments that are completely avoided by fairly easy tricks in any% have to actually be played and routed properly in glitchless"
The tricks that skip segments of the game in any% shouldn't be generalised as being "fairly easy". Typically they are much, much harder to do that it would be to go through the section of the level.
20:35
The message here again seems to be that using glitches takes less skill than using glitchless techniques.
Whilst this jump might be hard for a new player, it really isn't that difficult compared to "abusing the wall kick jump [kickglitch] to effectively fly over the challenging gap" which requires precise timing to control your speed, angle and jump input. I think the reason for the common misconception that because something is a glitch, it must be easy to abuse, is because players familiar with the game don't understand what is being done.
21:35: "Maybe clipping through walls should be seen as just a valid a strategy as not doing so"
My opinion here is that both any% and glitchless are valid ways of running the game, but can be considered entirely separate. It doesn't need to be a 'which is the right way to beat the game' debate. To me, it's like asking whether a sprint or hurdles is the most valid way to run along a 100m track. There's no point comparing them because they're entirely different, equally valid ways of covering the distance.
You agree with this point later on.
23:00
To me, the reason you seem to like 69 stars is the same reason I love the any% runs - it requires 'great performances' of 'really precise movements'. The way you say "It's Awesome" here is so great. I can hear the same kind of awe and wonder I felt when I got into speedrunning Mirror's Edge. I just think it's a shame that people discount any% runs because they don't think it requires the same level of precise movement as glitchless or 69 stars does.
23:23
Voh - tee - em
25:20
I love the focus you put here on the community of speedrunning - this is often overlooked, but especially in Mirror's Edge the community of runners is great and the primary reason the game is as optimised and fun to run as it is.
Overall I really enjoyed this video, but am just disappointed that it seems to propel the notion that any% runs which require glitches and not skill, whereas glitchless runs require skill and not glitches. Glitches and skill are not mutually exclusive and most of the time, glitches take more practice, understanding, and skill than the intended route would.
I would love to answer any more questions that you might have about speedrunning as a whole or Mirror's Edge speedrunning specifically.
This comment deserves some more visibility. I agree that OOB runs can take a massive amount of skill and precision. The only thing I dislike about OOB is that for most of them I can't tell what is going on. Sometimes OOB routes spend a massive amount of time in the void and it makes the run hard to follow. However in the clips he showed of Mirrors Edge, OOB looked pretty cool. You are still doing movement tech you were doing in the other segments which makes it easy to follow along with.
Obviously it's personal preference, but I typically enjoy glitchless, or at least non OOB runs the best. It's not a hard and fast rule but I like being able to see what is going on and where people are. It's an interesting balance to try and find something that's exciting to watch and also very fast. It's one of the reasons I love GDQ because sometimes the runners have to pick runs which are more visually interesting.
Yeah that confused me a little, I've always found all the game-breaking stuff and frame perfect level warps or whatever much more fascinating to watch.
I can play the game normally myself.
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This video is in an essay form. He first explores the "conventional" idea of speedrunning as playing well, then expands to why the other methods are valid, interesting and complement each other. It's the whole "thesis, antithesis, synthesis" of dialectics. Maybe you should skip your defensiveness and start this speedrun on the part that you agree with him in that both are valid for different reasons.
As for why "the community agrees with him", it's because the glitchess category exists in the first place. If everyone agreed with you that any% is more skillful, better to watch and completely in the spirit of the game, why would anyone choose to go slower? You can see that glitchless is not a "gimmick" run, it's what a lot of people prefer.
You gotta admit that there's always an arbitrary ruleset that appeals to some aesthetic. Even any% has them: why don't you just inject some code into the game and run the credits? What about running in an emulator, using savestates? That's not allowed, still, there's a Pokemon any% that consists entirely of manipulating the game's memory to warp into the final room and the Doom 2016 speedrun requires you to have high FPS to execute rail jumps. These distinctions are arbitrary and don't always translate to skill (unless buying a good graphics card or memorizing a short sequence of inputs be considered skill).
For my sensibilities (and I would argue, most "casuals"), I want to see fluidity more than speed, and major glitches tend to ruin that. You can argue all you want about how difficult it is to do a 10x frame perfect this or that, I still don't care to watch someone walking off the same step a repeatedly until they glitch through the floor and walk directly to the exit or spend 5 minutes arranging their inventory because it's causing an overflow. It's anticlimactic. It's not what I tuned in to watch.
This is not "the myth that glitches are easier", it's the reality that they obviously make it easier to achieve the real goal of a faster time, even if they make it harder to get to the end. They bypass the anticipation a regular player has of what your hurdles are. In your analogy, it would be like watching someone run a 100m track with hurdles vs watching someone else run it much faster from outside (the bounds) of the track and then gloat as it's really hard not to twist your ankles when you don't have a smooth concrete surface like those "casuals" in the track.
Its all about perception, right? This is why summoning salt does such a service to the community. This whole comment is the reason that it's frequently the case that any% speedruns are actually far more impressive than glitchless despite being shorter. However, an uninformed audience simply won't know everything that went into those glitches unless they do the research or watch an available summoning salt video on the game. Has SS done mirrors edge yet? When he does Hbomb is gonna have to do that black firebomb bit for ME as well lol
No one will ever beat DSP's preparing cup noodles speedrun record.
He's the undisputed king of the one-handed-cooking-because-he-has-to-hold-the-camera category
The keurig-cup-other cup glitch is too good
At least he will always have the "throwing grease on the toilet" award.
One of my favorite things about the phrase "fighting fire with fire" is that it can actually be useful at times. For example, to fight forest fires, foliage is often cleared using flamethrowers to prevent the forest fire from spreading, literally fighting fire with fire.
The soviets nuked an out of control natural gas fire one time. It burned for over 1000 days straight before they exhausted every option and literally nuked it. The ultimate form of fighting fire with fire!
just like that ben 10 episode
You can also use flames to defeat a very flamboyant man
"Kong Quest"
...Conquest...
...
I am a 26 year old man.
Yes.
I
Will
Activate
Now
I personally prefer the speedruns where the game gets absolutely broken. It feels like peeling away the skin to reveal what makes it tick, and frankly it's wild what kind of skill it takes to perfectly time glitches and exploits. I still think about the Super Mario 64 0.5 A presses every so often
I had to turn the volume down near the end because having a guy screaming "YES! YES! OH MY GOD YES!" sounds kinda like porn.
@ShadowKing 7890 "same"
Hmmmm 🤔
Yes dude!
We need to go deeper and darker.
@@Krystalmyth underrated comment
That's why i turned it up ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
hbomberguy,
the part of the video where you show the Ocarina of Time speedrun completing actually brought tears to my eyes. Your video is very moving - I did not expect to be so touched by speedrunning, but you managed to capture the heart of gaming at its very core. Thank you for your videos, thank you for your charity, and good luck with those bananas. They're well earned
That part. It really is just... so beautiful. I have a lot of personal reasons why the stream that followed this video touched my heart, but this tiny moment captured here seems emblematic of something I am reeling from, having just discovered his channel. Everything video hbomberguy makes has this pure heart of sincerity and loving appreciation. I just have no words, I am sitting here tears streaming down my face, in awe.
It's like you can hear the joy and excitement in his voice. Its... genuinely touching.
Same here, and reading your comment set me off a bit again lol.
@Sooty ??? Are you THAT drunk?
Nerds flashing themselves on videogames 24/7 and wasting hours and hours trying to beat records "bring tears to your eyes"? Check yourself
Mirror's Edge: "motion sickness, might be bad for your brain."
Me: "Pfffffff"
Video: [shows like two seconds of Mirror's Edge]
Me: "Nice, I'm motion sick now. Why did no one tell me?????"
haha! how did that happen?! :/
Yep, got that, too, and thinking, well, that would stop any dreams I ever had of speedrunning that game :P
@wurstbrotmitbutter Can you go feed the cliché of Germans having no sense of humor somewhere else please, thanks
17:24 - _"Playing Mirror's Edge as fast as you can, and then going online and checking out a speedrun is a really fun experience."_
I got a similar feeling to this whilst playing Celeste. I'd beaten all the A-sides a couple of times before checking out the speedrunning community. It was amazing watching people absolutely destroy a stage in seconds, especially one that took you ages to beat.
I had a dream you put out a video called "Steven Universe Exists and here's why" and I watched it but as soon as I got into the video you just started talking about bugs what they're made out of and then you brought in some politician dude who looked kinda like Ted Cruz and started arguing with him about bugs then you went away and it was just him talking about bugs and then I woke up.
I thought you'd like to know that.
That wasn't real?
Same wtf
To be honest, that's less odd than his Sonic/CAD/The Room/Penny Arcade video. If he actually made that video, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. And it would definitely have some extremely insightful and bogglingly simple commentary on Steven Universe, bugs, politicians, and humanity itself all at once. Fuck, I want to see that video now.
I legitimately want to see that video now
Computer bugs, or insect bugs?
It’s pretty normal to see the worst parts of speedrun exploited for views ie “cringe compilations” and other crap like that, so I’m really glad to see a video like this that talks about how amazing of a hobby speedrunning can be.
The worst moment was when that one guy failed at the last boss when trying a dark souls 1, 2 AND 3 no damage run. But he tried again and succeeded! Yay!
Nobody should watch cringe compilations for any reason.
Cringe complications make me cringe, but I don't think it's for the intended reason.
Link? @OLD M
remember being so disheartened when I looked up the most popular videos people had clipped from the Games Done Quick twitch channel and a bunch of them were basically LOLing at a trans host being misgendered. :/
I could listen forever to Hbomberguy telling me about things he loves
I know right?? I
It's oddly cathartic, isn't it?
"Lets just torture me for the amusement of others." basically sums up the service industry
But where is the 25x 101% DK speedrun?
Pretty sure that's called Hell
@@sword7166 hell is a fucking joke compared to this
It's still in progress. And willl be for the next few decades.
the only category that ends in suicide
I suspect that would literally kill someone if they tried it lmao. I'M WAITING, HARRIS.
For Americans and non-football/soccer fans who may not know, what makes the pronunciation of “Gascoigne” at 14:32 even funnier is that there was a pretty famous English footballer in the 80s and 90s named Paul Gascoigne, meaning that HBomb had undoubtedly heard the name pronounced correctly on TV several times and should definitely be able to say it properly.
"The game gets confused" is my favorite meme that pedantic speedrunners and video game developers get mad about.
PARALLEL UNIVERSES
Oh it's a meme? Not really surprised since I hear it so often but
The thing is, the meme is incorrect. The game is absolutely certain in what it's doing-it's just wrong.
"If you can play it slow, you can play it fast."
...Oh wait. Wrong channel. Well, I guess it still applies.
*flight of the bumblebees intensifies*
Unexpected twoset references are always welcome.
HBomb’s career: “No one’s managed to stop me so far!”
Tbh I forgot you were a gaming channel.
Wait!
He's a what?
That seems to be the case with left leaning gaming outlets.
You're a gaming channel Harry
@@eccoakadicco zinger, not shouting about sarkeeskan sjws so not real GAMING
Hbomb is cool and all, but 'leaning' might be a bit weak of a description for him.
Orange Box Quit% speedrun, where you have to load and quit all the games in the Valve Orange Box Collection.
This video and the results of the subsequent stream mean a lot to me. Its life-affirming in a way I can't properly describe, and it genuinely gives me a great deal of hope. Thanks for that.
I totally agree. I have several friends who have gotten into speed running and it never made sense to me why someone would pour hundreds or thousands of hours into an incredibly niche and ‘useless’ skill. But then I watch this, and I get it.
The DK stream is such a legendary piece of internet history. As a trans girl, HBomb has had our back for years ❤️
BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW TO BEAT BEAVER BOTHER?!
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH
The myriad of topics you cover continues to be interesting. Honestly have no idea what you plan on doing next, so its always a treat.
Shaun basically runs the same channel and is good friends with Harris. Basically just gaming and movies and swidge topics
You glorious bastard. Sersiously thank you again for what you did for Mermaids, and thank everyone who made the stream as big as it was.
39:09 I just realized Hbomb was wearing a Shaun shirt. That's neat.
Donkey Kong said "Trans Rights!"
*Trans rights, okay!*
@@sirrivet9557 No that's Funky Kong, but he says trans rights too. Trust me I'm a Kong expert.
Sooty i love this reply
@Sooty go off mate, hell yeah
TRANS RIGHTS TEETH GANG
"Have you ever tried actually fighting fire with fire? I'm on a watchlist now." - Hbomberguy 2018
"But speedrunning isn't *always* about socialism!"
"Sometimes its about beating a game as fast as possible!"
When has speed running ever been political, or do I just not get the joke😩
@@sociallyineptspider-man2366 You don't get the joke.
Yeah I don't get it either. Is it one of those "hahaha socialism is funny amirite comrades?!" jokes, or did I miss something else?
@@unocualqu1era i took it more as hbomberguy mocking himself for looking so deeply into every topic as opposed to taking things at face value. You know, a joke that's mildly self deprecating but harmless otherwise. Also known as something that would be a hard waste of emotional energy to get offended over...
I don't give a shit about speedrunning.
*watches video*
Huh, I totally get why people love speedrunning, it seems interesting.
well, I get bored easily, but now I understand the appeal better. and I'd like to give it a try myself.
I love Binding of Isaac, and Spelunky speedruns.
*exactly this*
You know, in a petersonian sense
You're a beta male, Sonic
Why Speedrunning Is Great: 300k+ for a trans support charity
AOC SAID TRANS RIGHTS BABEY
AOC SAID N64 IS THE BEST CONSOLE OF ALL TIME THAT'S POLICY I WOULD BACK WITH MY DOLLARS
PREACH!
nøc you’re not great
@@shayprimrose1678 okay but nintendo switch though.
Maybe you should speedrun your next video upload so you save us the heartache of waiting for a new video.
There'd be huge chunks missing and half the time you wouldn't know wtf was going on
37:28 "Trying something over and over again and getting better and better and learning new secrets and strategies" This is also exactly what's happening in research community. I am a computer science researcher who's also interested in gaming, and I find speedrunning community is so similiar to research community.
The speedrunning community is effectively the research community if we hadn't invented patents 🤡
As a science nerd, I think that's partially why I love the speedrunning community. Especially when it's not so competitive that you feel like your gonna get your head bitten off. It feels like a big community wanting to learn more and do this one thing better and better and work together and combine their knowledge to do so. It just feels like a PvE with a huge boss raid on an MMORPG and I love it. It's like, super satisfying, even if you aren't the one doing it.
This is excellent content. You had material and script here for 3, maybe 4 videos and you didn't milk the shit out of it with parts 1,2,3,4, final, extra, PLUS, Alpha. You did a full, coherent, comprehensive and detailed explanation on why speedrun is so damn fun and you didn't sell out to any formulaic bullshit.
This is some of the best content I have seen in months, maybe years in youtube. Really, dude, congratulations.
Edit: I'm totally subscribing and showing this to anyone who I think might be interested in your content, your past self better be prepared, because I'm gonna binge watch your shit.
Same.
didn't expect to cry watching a video about speed runs, but that guy beating that zelda record got me
I cried too, and I hardly cry at _anything._ edit: missed a word.
I got me in the feels, too.
i think i'll always remember the time that i unintentionally discovered a glitch in an indie game that, upon sharing it with the speedrunning community of the game, nobody else had found before. it was just really great. we came up with a name for the glitch, and i went back and tested it over and over again to see exactly what caused it, how i could cause it in a way that's more efficient, etc. i felt like i had contributed something to the world, even though it was so small. one glitch in a dlc of a game, appreciated only by the small speedrunning community of a game that already overall has a very small community. i've never really even been a speedrunner myself, but even just seeing a small glimpse into the speedrunning community made me really happy-- especially with most communities in gaming being incredibly toxic.
You're doing a 100% playthrough of DK64? I didn't think it was possible to be that masochistic.
Man, were you even listening? Of course he's not doing 100% DK64 that's dumb. He's doing 101+%
Compared to a lot of the trash that came out on the N64 DK64 is pretty average. My biggest complaint is that it’s too easy to beat. But if HBomb is trying to collect every color of banana AND the golden bananas, he’s screwed.
@Django Fett
Then gaming was never good.
It's very possible. I did an 101% LP of it several years ago, and practicing for that required me to play through it *twice.* IT's grueling, to say the least.
Doing it so many times as to speedrun it, though? THAT way lies true madness and broken souls. God save those who no longer cannot save themselves.
Jesus Christ... I forgot how much DK64 ruined my life. I beat that game as a teenager in 1999 and I was so broken by the end that when I defeated king k rule in the boxing ring I swore I’d never play it again. During the almost 20yrs since I’ve looked at that banana yellow cartridge and with sweet nostalgia, like arsenic in my cola, I thought about playing it again, but have been unable to since my N64 is missing the expansion pack that I loaned my cousin and he never returned. Watching this flooded my memory and I began to feel that familiar tension in my neck and chest... I never want to play that game again... Ever.
Do you need a sponsir? I mean like in AA, not so you can play full time.
@Jumbo Jango what part of that comment makes you think they want to do that
My current record at any% on this video is 0.2s (sliding the bar on my phone at portrait mode), but 100% glitchess is 21.69 minutes, and it may be a hard cap
I enjoy watching speedruns of my favorite games. Something about it so fascinating to me, seeing people speeding through a game and making it look easy is always a treat.
There's a starman waiting in the sky Jesus Christ you’re everywhere
He'd like to come and meet us
But he thinks he'd blow our minds
I thought you were dead
What’s fantastic about this video is that by the end when he promises to do the DK64 100% run, a new, wonderful, heartwarming story is born, effectively validating all the reasons why speed running is awesome. Speed running is probably the most human activity in the modern era, and it brings me so much comfort knowing that a community of people that is inherently collaborative and personal exists.
I legit couldnt stop laughing for the rest of the video at "Reverse RBO"
it makes me cry laughing every time he says it. “why would you do it like that?!”
So if speedrunning is an inherently collectivist activity, and playing videogames is an aspect of our culture, does that make speedrunning the real cultural marxism?
You're confusing group effort with group mindset
@@KarmasAB123 You're confusing a joke with a semantics error.
@@tbotalpha8133 I'm aware it's a joke; I feel jokes are funnier when they make sense, even if it's absurdist humor.
No offense to Jerthanis
This has aged so well lmao
"Oh my god dude"
I cry everytime.
U made us proud skater boy.
"Let's just torture me for other people's enjoyment" god this man is hilarious
watching this after the DK64 stream is a beautiful, poignant treatise on the hubris of man
You know what game is great for speed running? Sonic The Hedgehog 2.
It is actually. There's loads of skips you can do in Sonic 2 and even playing a 100% run the level of optimisation available is pretty insane. It's an easy game to pick up, but hard to truly master to get to speedrun speed. The master of speedrun videos, Summoning Salt, did a video on it.
@@duffman18 I wouldn't know. I haven't played it in years. I just wanted to make a funny comment.
I'm a speedrunner for Sonic 2 actually it's great
@@NagromVoice I have a question for you. What do you play Sonic 2 on? I recently bought it on the Xbox Store and it just feels off to me. I grew up playing the game on the Genesis (In storage otherwise I'd just play it on there) and I'm not sure if it's me or the port but it just doesn't feel as good as it should.
Uncle Godfather Chili's I believe the Xbox port is the same, it's allowed for speedrunning. I play on an emulator (Kega Fusion)
nobody:
hbomberguy trying to read a french name: GASQUACKNEE
I immediately paused the video and came down here to see if I could make sense of why he said it that way. It hurt my brain.
I'm genuinely curious is it pronounced gas-coin or something like that
@@cocothesocialist3690 I thought it's just gas-con. Most letters in French are just there to fuck with you. PEUGEOT? It's Pejo, half of them are silent. Renault?1 It's Reno, -ault, aka MORE THAN HALF OF THE WORD is silent. Queque - all letters are silent except Q. Gasєэeghjjkkktrcыph78sfdїwn69%$#@kzdo0дleypuff№ю = Gascon.
@@cocothesocialist3690 its gas-coin yea
It's Fartdollar
Watching this today brought me to tears knowing what your speedrun accomplished. Thank you Hbomb, you wonderful, wonderful man! 😭💖💖💖😭
it was more like a "slowrun" which sounds deliciously ironic to me, but still... xD
Same! I didn't know this video was the genesis of the Mermaids Run till just now!
Literally a few hours ago the final secret was discovered in Doom 2, making true 100% finally achievable.
What was it
Turtle Anton a secret which was already discovered had a bug which caused it to not trigger the “secret found” message, meaning that the game would be at 99% permanently. Someone found a way to trigger the message, thus truly completing Doom 2 100% for the first time in history.
"Quake Done Quick" was the first speedrun I watched. Pre-youtube. My mind was appropriately boggled.
God dammit it is 4am and Hbomb just uploaded a 40-minute video essay and I have to wait until morning to watch it... Why, Harris? Why must you torment me like this?
Why would you have to wait? /s
Lmao it was released at 10 am in England
Remember that tweet from some alt-right guy who claimed that speedrunners playing a game fast instead of playing it well was emblematic of the culture of the left? I kinda wish that tweet had been twit back in 2018 so it could have been referenced in this video,
I was wondering why so many people in the radical left participate in speedrunning…?
I used to be one of those "just play the game" anti speedrun types until I started watching Karl Jobst videos and realized I was wrong about everything and stupid. But specifically I thought all speed running was was the glitch heavy 'see how fast the game CAN be beaten using whatever possible method' which never really sat right with me, but then I realized that probably every single game has multiple categories including beating without glitches like that but THEN I also realized that even the methods using glitches are a fucking science unto their own and that they are also badass. The amount of time and effort these guys put into these games is incredible and watching them pull these things off and getting world/personal records is awesome. I'm still not super into it(just in that I'm a fan but really just a casual observer) but I've done a complete 180 and hope everyone that thinks like I used to gets a chance to see speed running for what it is.
Edit - also the scandals around cheating are so interesting I think that's probably how I initially got into it, seeing some of KJ's videos about people getting caught cheating and having to pause and Google all these terms and stuff and getting to learn about the ins and outs
Not the Night in the Woods video, but I'm not complaining.
"but speedrunning isnt always about socialism"
ok
Only sometimes
Tell that to gdq 😂
In that case, I'm no longer interested.
"OMG this speedrun took OVER 17 HOURS" *K. rool start's laughing in the background*
Bomberguy defeated death grips. Damn.
I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE
Snitchy boi
You can say he fucked them in half.
At the start of the video I thought about making a joke about me (a runner) clicking on a speedrunning video, but after watching this I just want to talk about what an amazing video this was!
Am interesting side note: I think and most importantly feel that the feeling of accomplishment that speedrunning can give you is extremely similar to the accomplishment ultrarunning can give you. After running 100km or 100 miles you feel am incredible amount of emotions of all kind.
The black fire bomb bit has me in absolute tears from laughter. I'm wheezing harder than Muttley over here; nearly woke up my girlfriend two rooms over.
The Australian PAL version of DK64 was also yellow. There, you learned yet something else today.
I'm severely late to the party because I'm stubborn and I didn't want to start watching hbomberguy JUST because of the hype. As a result, when I came across this video I didn't realize that it was the one made prior to the famous stream. It literally had me sobbing with joy as I watched in my bed.
There is something so innately human about persistence and resilience, and especially the way people bond through empathy. We could all *feel* the LoZ player's pure joy as he achieved his record, and I'm so incredibly happy that this moment helped spark a moment where the whole world could chance to dream of real, lasting change.
Thank you, Harris Bomberguy. You'll see me in your patreon soon
oh my god. when he said it's currently 2:41am, I looked at my clock and it was, FOR ONCE, exactly that. 2.41 am. I got shivers.
the changed intro feels like a betrayal on a visceral level yet i can't explain why ;-;
Maria Micallef my therapist said it might be due to some intarenal issues of abandonment. But that's just me. Whelp
37:28 "watching someone get better and better... learning new strategies" so Beaver Bother?
I just want to acknowledge that a game like mirror’s edge would never come out in the modern gaming industry. It’s experimental, a new ip, AAA funded, genre defining and fully single player. And I love it to bits.
Games like mirrors edge come out a ton
You just gotta not focus on all the mediocre things releasing from studios that wanna see how fast they can ride themselves into a hole of noone wanting to play their games despite intense marketing
What's more, what do you mean by "modern gaming industry", I swear people have been complaining about that since more than 10 years already.
It's easy to notice only the grandiose games when looking back in time, in 10 years noone will be remembering games like destiny and Pokemon Legends particularly much, there'll be far more talk about games such as DOOM, God of War and Sekiro
Single player games like that come out a lot, the thing is though people generally don’t talk about them as much, and people generally move on as the finish the game/
Yeah sex is great but have you tried finally learning how Speedrunning relates to Socialism after that one tweet from weeks ago?
Technically Oblivion, but it's really from a webcomic called Prequel: www.prequeladventure.com/2011/03/prequel-begin/
Did Harris just affirm my faith in humanity? This is new and different and I’m not sure how I feel about this newfound positivity
Instructions unclear. Bought mirror's edge and it's now one of my favorite games
Sounds like a win tbh. Like getting the right answer to a math equation, even if you totally used the complete wrong methods.
Can't have been that unclear, you got it right
But why were you outside at night in the woods
SinisterGrapefruit shhhhhh, I find it best not to ask
Great game btw
Here in 2023 to say that people now speed run re-creating “crank dat Soulja boy” in music production softwares and the record is sub-twenty seconds
"Logistical fun? Is that a kind of fun?" factorio: "Am I a joke to you?"
I've been swimming competitively for many years and I fully get the high of doing things slightly better and understand the mechanics so well that at gets close to abusing. learning about hydrodynamics etc and learning about nutritioun etc just to shave off milliseconds. I have gotten into watching speed runs a few years ago and its amazing to see.
Yes! This video made me see that the appeal of speedruns is the exact same as sport.
YOU'RE BACK OMG. Tell Shaun to hurry up with the Doom video k thanks
Doom Video? I hope it's about the fake outrage regarding "mortally challenged melting pots" similar to his cuphead video?
The “mortally challenged” joke was actually kinda funny, but the chuds acting like it’s “triggering the SJWs” ruined it for me.
@@nekroz_of_super_dora3477 yes
Oh good I'm glad us swidges are in agreement that the game itself isn't offensive lol
He was gone? I thought his videos were just monthly.
i watched this whole video and hbomberguy doesn't mention sexual arcehtypes ONCE
Orange boy
truly Petersonian
'fastest mario'
I was hoping to understand what the fuck that guy was talking about as well.
My favorite thing is that hbomb's point here almost agrees with Weird Twitter Man, except hbomb knows community is good instead of bad.
Watching this in light of the events of this weekend is... something.
Chris Longhurst a hero of our time
What events?
Fuck this is accurate but now
@@philiphunt-bull5817
Yeah, what events ?
What events?
Watching Distortion beat Sekiro in 22 minutes and 22 seconds is peak entertainment
wow, james somerton did a great job explaining why speedrunning is so much fun. i can tell he's really passionate about it. great job james!
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