(Additions) Goku had the reflexes to deflect the deathbeams which were atleast half the speed of light, as i mentioned when he casted it against dende.
Ok 1. Chaos Emeralds are not outside help. They're just items that can be used in battle and last time I checked Goku has used senzu beans before in the past. Outside help is only when someone else is involved in the fight. 2. Yeah, you bring up Goku's speed about how he traveled from one side of Namek to the other and yet he wasn't fast enough to get to his ship before Namek blew. (not to mention he was a SSj at the time) 3. When was Eggman faster than Sonic? To be continued..
In conclusion, I'm not denying Goku's abilities. He's without a doubt one of the best martial artist in fiction and has a wide range of abilities. As I stated in terms of raw power and combat prowess Goku definitely has it. Super Sonic on the other hand has greater speed and space/time manipulation which gives him the edge. Not a big edge but enough for the win, but that's just me. Everyone has their own opinion.
2. Yeah i forgot that, but goku didn't even try to go to his ship, he was tired, therefore slower, if he flew to his ship, it would've took him extra time to get it started, he didnt have any time, in about 15 seconds namek would've exploded, and frieza's ship was closer than the one he arrived with, it wouldve taken him around 4 seconds to get to his ship since he was tired from fighting frieza, the speed i said was when goku was rested, and if he fights sonic, at the start he wont be tired.
First of all, this is Eggman. You don't give him enough credit. Eggman is a genius and unpredictable. The guy has created dangerous machines. For instance, The Final Egg Blaster is capable of destroying Star systems. Then there is machine in Sonic 06 which is capable of time travel. Eggman has fought Super Sonic for years so it's no surprise he had a machine that was design to separate the emeralds from Sonic. (To be continued...)
6. The reason I said Goku wouldn't use a senzu is because Goku wouldn't want to rely on senzu bean to win a fight. (at least not anymore) After all he refuse to take one against Cell when Cell offered him the chance to take one.
1. Again outside help is when someone else is involved. 2. What are talking about? Did you forget than Goku had King Kai tell Dende to wish everyone transported to Earth except for Frieza and Goku using the Dragon Balls? Goku's ship was still on Namek and he still couldn't make to his ship. With Goku's speed that you talk about he should've made it but he couldn't and used Frieza ship instead even though Frieza told Goku himself that Vegeta damaged it so he knew there was no guarantee it'd work
1. No, outside help is when something, that isn't sonic, is helping him fight an opponent, hence being called outside help 2. he was fast enough, but gohan flew out with that shit with bulma and picollo, he went to frieza's ship which was broken. 3. that was a joke :D, i was just playing some sonic games the other day and i realized sonic never catches eggman.
Now in regarding combat I'll give it to Goku because he's a master martial artist but Sonic don't fight like Goku does. Goku is more of raw power mix with combat and Ki blast while Super Sonic uses speed in combination of space/time manipulation (if he has to)
4. I noticed that but that always happen for some odd reason. 5. You keep saying Goku would stop Sonic from using the Chaos Emeralds but yet to prove how. Goku wouldn't even know what the Chaos Emeralds are. Knowing him, he would just stand there trying to figure what they are and by that time Sonic had already became Super. Also Goku couldn't stop Sonic from using Chaos Control. He wouldn't know what that was until it's too late. Goku cant mind read during battle.
Second of all, Super Sonic don't need to power up like the Super Saiyans do. Because of the Chaos Emeralds his energy source in unlimited while Goku's energy is clearly limited. On top of that he can manipulate space and time with chaos control. Goku has no defense against that. On top of that Super Sonic is faster than Goku. I'm not saying Super Sonic is invincible because I know he's not. He can take damage but it's not that easy. Over the years of the games Super Sonic has become OP as hell.
(Continued) the other, he did that while frieza used deathbeam, like the deathbeam is fast as fuck easily lightspeed, like, he shot it, when through 4 people (not hit them, but traveled right next to them.) vegeta was the first one, he didn't even see the beam only after it hit dende, thats how fast it is, and vegeta was pretty strong in the frieza saga compared to other minor characters, so you would think he would have good reaction times, sonic doesn't have any reaction times (Continue)
Why wouldn't goku use senzu beans?, you are just making random assumptions now, Goku didn't stop those enemies because he knows about their maximum potential and wants to see if its true, but he knows nothing about sonic, all he knows that sonic is his foe, so he wouldn't hesitate.
Dude you clearly underestimate Chaos Control. Chaos Control allows the user to manipulate space and time. Do you have any idea how much of a disadvantage Goku would be in. Not only can the user teleport but he can also teleport other people anywhere they want including into different dimensions. On top of that the can manipulate time by slow it, speeding it, or freeze it. Super Sonic can simply freeze Goku in time and go on a rampage with light speed attakcs..
Well it takes sonic to think to turn Super or use the chaos emeralds or use Chaos control right?? that is the speed of thought which is a few times slower than speed of sound and way way wya wya way much slower than the speed of light, which goku can go past on, before even sonic can think of using it, goku would just accelerate at the highest speed he can (faster than speed of light), punch sonic in the stomach and he would be knocked out.
Well as I stated earlier Super Sonic has become OP. At any case Sonic has gotten stronger over the years. This was proven in Sonic Generation when he was able to defeat Perfect Chaos in base form. Now the thing is Sonic has become an embodiment of Chaos and has a connection to the Chaos Emeralds. Now if it's just regular Sonic then Goku would win easily, but Super Sonic is just too OP. The way I see it Goku would give Super Sonic a very hard time but I just don't see how Goku could win.
Goku didn't eat it because he knew gohan coulda went ss2 and beat cell, if he knew everyone was in danger of being killed, he wouldn't hesitate, and as i said, he would just knock sonic out in the first millisecond of the battle.
4. You say Goku would stop Sonic before he use the Chaos Emeralds (which I doubt) and yet Goku couldn't stop enemies from using their powerful Ki attacks and in DBZ strong Ki attacks takes TIME to charge. roughly about several seconds. Sonic can turn Super almost instantly. 5. Although Goku has used senzu beans before he wouldn't use them now. 6. Goku's Instant Transmission can easily be countered by Super Sonic's Chaos Control. (which Goku has no defense against) Try again..
lol its true in almost all 2 vs 2 against sonic first its 1 vs 1 and sonic almost dies then shadow rescues him or somtimes its 2 vs 1 then shadow appears and saves sonic. sonic should really be carefull
If Goku was serious Goku would knock sonic out immediately, sonic wouldn't even react since the speed of thought is way way way way way way way slower than the speed of light, anyway im gonna take a break now because we are just spamming the comment section.
1. Ok i will go with your definition, so there is no fuss, so now goku can use senzu beans, and sonic wouldnt be able to do anything, at the start of the fight goku would just accelerate really fast and hit sonic in the belly, knock him out, before he even thinks of using anything.
Goku in base form on planet namek traveled from side of the planet to the other in a few milliseconds, that is easily the speed of sound, and last time i checked, speed of sound is faster than the speed of thought, which means at the start of the fight goku would be able to molest sonic before he even thinks about using chaos emeralds, i mean, how in the hell would sonic know to use chaos emeralds on goku, he knows nothing about him, and if he used it (continue next comment)
(Continued) Thats all, im tired of writing, sorry if that was too long, i put htis out so i wouldn't have to reply with 1 part of this to one comment, and then 1 part to the other comment etc, In conclusion, Kid goku is a match for sonic, Goku is way out of sonic's league.
(continued) and even if sonic used chaos emeralds, goku won, because that is outside help, goku doesn't need any help to turn ssj neither does he need any to travel faster than the speed of light, and if sonic used chaos emeralds, and it was allowed, that means goku can use senzu beans, so once he is tired he would instant transmission to the other side of the fucking universe and eat 1, regain all energy and become even stronger due to sayians gaining more power (Continued in next comment)
I'll end it on this note. You keep saying Goku would knock Sonic out quickly but you don't seem to realize that Sonic is much faster than Goku. Sonic has fast enough to break the barrier of time itself. Goku has never gone that fast. Super Sonic can easily perform Chaos Control with his speed.
Ok let's set the record here Sonic and Shadow at their Super Forms are not Stronger than Goku and Vegeta at their Super Forms. The only advantage Sonic and Shadow have is Speed over Goku and Vegeta because Super Sonic and Super Shadow's speed are both limitless they can push themselves to go faster unlike Goku and Vegeta their speeds are limited. Here is the finish Sonic and Shadow can simply Chaos Control Goku and Vegeta to the Sun and the battle will already be over. Brains vs Brawn here.
(Continued) and goku as a child could move at lightning speed, take world martial arts tournament 2 for example, when goku was against krillin he was moving so fast that he wasn't visible, even tiens third eye had trouble seeing him, that is easily the speed of lightning, goku has trained his entire life, goku could make 8 after images of himself as a fucking child, coming back to my first point when i said goku traveled from 1 side of namek to the other (Continue next Comment)
(Continuing..) Now let me give you actual facts THAT ARE CANON. I'll make a list for u so try to keep up. 1. Super Sonic casually goes at light speed (research it) and not just that but Sonic has actually broken the barrier of time using pure speed. Goku has never gone that fast. 2. Super Sonic can manipulate space and time. That alone puts the power to planet destroying to shame. 3. Super Sonic's energy source is unlimited. Goku Ki is clearly limited. 4. Super Sonic can beat Goku in any form
Sonic has the power of Radits which is 1,200 And goku has a power level of 90,000,000. And goku can go at about 186,000 miles per second. Almost the speed of light Sonic can only go at 1 mile at every 5 seconds the speed of sound. In a battle Sonic is way outmatched.
hyper is on the level of a super sayan 4 because the transformations of sonic increase his powers more than the gokus transformations look at this example Goku:ssj1 -+ 500x ssj2-+500x ssj3- +500x ssj4 - +500x Sonic Super Sonic - +1000x Hyper sonic - +1000 so : 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 = 2000 and 1000 + 1000 = 2000 they are equal
LOL are you serious. Goku and Vegeta would let Sonic and Shadow use the emeralds regardless. As saiyans they always let their opponents fight at their best. Super Sonic and Shadow can beat Goku and Vegeta. They have too many advantages over them
to be honest this is probably one of the weakest fights i seen some one made. Its not very well made.... I guess its good for a beginner if thatis what you are...
Goku and vegeta just look fast cause their instant transmission technique or I will called it teleporting technique...but sonic and shadow had the true speed of light..no way they can beat sonic and shadow
nope if this was in a real dragon ball z cross over trust me sweet heart they would give up the minute they run after goku and vegeta turn to super saiyan blue
This is a UA-cam classic
Cool ^^ Thanks again
this is sick :)
Now why did this have to end on a cliffhanger?
Nice! Show part 2
nice man
Cool :-)
Sonic already ripped of Super Saiyan! Don't make him rip off Super Saiyan 3!
The Pickle Master Chains it's called inspiration dude gosh
its called a homage man why do people have such a hard time understanding that
(Additions) Goku had the reflexes to deflect the deathbeams which were atleast half the speed of light, as i mentioned when he casted it against dende.
i love this show but i got 3 question 1:how did goku get to sonics world 2:where did shadow come from and 3:where did vageta com from
epic!
That ending though lool
Ok 1. Chaos Emeralds are not outside help. They're just items that can be used in battle and last time I checked Goku has used senzu beans before in the past. Outside help is only when someone else is involved in the fight.
2. Yeah, you bring up Goku's speed about how he traveled from one side of Namek to the other and yet he wasn't fast enough to get to his ship before Namek blew. (not to mention he was a SSj at the time)
3. When was Eggman faster than Sonic?
To be continued..
In conclusion, I'm not denying Goku's abilities. He's without a doubt one of the best martial artist in fiction and has a wide range of abilities. As I stated in terms of raw power and combat prowess Goku definitely has it. Super Sonic on the other hand has greater speed and space/time manipulation which gives him the edge. Not a big edge but enough for the win, but that's just me. Everyone has their own opinion.
2. Yeah i forgot that, but goku didn't even try to go to his ship, he was tired, therefore slower, if he flew to his ship, it would've took him extra time to get it started, he didnt have any time, in about 15 seconds namek would've exploded, and frieza's ship was closer than the one he arrived with, it wouldve taken him around 4 seconds to get to his ship since he was tired from fighting frieza, the speed i said was when goku was rested, and if he fights sonic, at the start he wont be tired.
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Well that escalated quickly
First of all, this is Eggman. You don't give him enough credit. Eggman is a genius and unpredictable. The guy has created dangerous machines. For instance, The Final Egg Blaster is capable of destroying Star systems. Then there is machine in Sonic 06 which is capable of time travel. Eggman has fought Super Sonic for years so it's no surprise he had a machine that was design to separate the emeralds from Sonic. (To be continued...)
6. The reason I said Goku wouldn't use a senzu is because Goku wouldn't want to rely on senzu bean to win a fight. (at least not anymore) After all he refuse to take one against Cell when Cell offered him the chance to take one.
the vid's cool just speed it up with less talking during the fight.
Thank you!
When is Part II coming out
1. Again outside help is when someone else is involved.
2. What are talking about? Did you forget than Goku had King Kai tell Dende to wish everyone transported to Earth except for Frieza and Goku using the Dragon Balls? Goku's ship was still on Namek and he still couldn't make to his ship. With Goku's speed that you talk about he should've made it but he couldn't and used Frieza ship instead even though Frieza told Goku himself that Vegeta damaged it so he knew there was no guarantee it'd work
wow i cant belive i hacked my cusins account anyways i love it best sonic fight ever
1. No, outside help is when something, that isn't sonic, is helping him fight an opponent, hence being called outside help
2. he was fast enough, but gohan flew out with that shit with bulma and picollo, he went to frieza's ship which was broken.
3. that was a joke :D, i was just playing some sonic games the other day and i realized sonic never catches eggman.
Now in regarding combat I'll give it to Goku because he's a master martial artist but Sonic don't fight like Goku does. Goku is more of raw power mix with combat and Ki blast while Super Sonic uses speed in combination of space/time manipulation (if he has to)
4. I noticed that but that always happen for some odd reason.
5. You keep saying Goku would stop Sonic from using the Chaos Emeralds but yet to prove how. Goku wouldn't even know what the Chaos Emeralds are. Knowing him, he would just stand there trying to figure what they are and by that time Sonic had already became Super. Also Goku couldn't stop Sonic from using Chaos Control. He wouldn't know what that was until it's too late. Goku cant mind read during battle.
Sonic and Shadow VS Góku and Vegeta
Shadic VS Gogeta
Okay thanks for letting me know?
Second of all, Super Sonic don't need to power up like the Super Saiyans do. Because of the Chaos Emeralds his energy source in unlimited while Goku's energy is clearly limited. On top of that he can manipulate space and time with chaos control. Goku has no defense against that. On top of that Super Sonic is faster than Goku. I'm not saying Super Sonic is invincible because I know he's not. He can take damage but it's not that easy. Over the years of the games Super Sonic has become OP as hell.
(Continued) the other, he did that while frieza used deathbeam, like the deathbeam is fast as fuck easily lightspeed, like, he shot it, when through 4 people (not hit them, but traveled right next to them.) vegeta was the first one, he didn't even see the beam only after it hit dende, thats how fast it is, and vegeta was pretty strong in the frieza saga compared to other minor characters, so you would think he would have good reaction times, sonic doesn't have any reaction times (Continue)
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Why wouldn't goku use senzu beans?, you are just making random assumptions now, Goku didn't stop those enemies because he knows about their maximum potential and wants to see if its true, but he knows nothing about sonic, all he knows that sonic is his foe, so he wouldn't hesitate.
Dude you clearly underestimate Chaos Control. Chaos Control allows the user to manipulate space and time. Do you have any idea how much of a disadvantage Goku would be in. Not only can the user teleport but he can also teleport other people anywhere they want including into different dimensions. On top of that the can manipulate time by slow it, speeding it, or freeze it. Super Sonic can simply freeze Goku in time and go on a rampage with light speed attakcs..
Sonic & Shadow would beat DBZ Goku & Vegeta, easily. DBS Goku & Vegeta are more difficult, but I still see Sonic & Shadow winning.
my friend now goku knows how to do the upper instinct he foresees all movements
a part 2!!!1 i want to see the whole thing i n one video
Well it takes sonic to think to turn Super or use the chaos emeralds or use Chaos control right?? that is the speed of thought which is a few times slower than speed of sound and way way wya wya way much slower than the speed of light, which goku can go past on, before even sonic can think of using it, goku would just accelerate at the highest speed he can (faster than speed of light), punch sonic in the stomach and he would be knocked out.
that is clearly captain ginyu controlling Goku's body
@DawnTH15 no thats not super sonic 3 that´s turbo sonic
the orderl is this:
super sonic, hyper sonic and turbo sonic
Super Sonic actually does have raw power. (not as much as Goku but raw power nonetheless) He uses his speed to compensate for lack of raw power.
Well as I stated earlier Super Sonic has become OP. At any case Sonic has gotten stronger over the years. This was proven in Sonic Generation when he was able to defeat Perfect Chaos in base form. Now the thing is Sonic has become an embodiment of Chaos and has a connection to the Chaos Emeralds. Now if it's just regular Sonic then Goku would win easily, but Super Sonic is just too OP. The way I see it Goku would give Super Sonic a very hard time but I just don't see how Goku could win.
Goku didn't eat it because he knew gohan coulda went ss2 and beat cell, if he knew everyone was in danger of being killed, he wouldn't hesitate, and as i said, he would just knock sonic out in the first millisecond of the battle.
4. You say Goku would stop Sonic before he use the Chaos Emeralds (which I doubt) and yet Goku couldn't stop enemies from using their powerful Ki attacks and in DBZ strong Ki attacks takes TIME to charge. roughly about several seconds. Sonic can turn Super almost instantly.
5. Although Goku has used senzu beans before he wouldn't use them now.
6. Goku's Instant Transmission can easily be countered by Super Sonic's Chaos Control. (which Goku has no defense against)
Try again..
@TheSupersmashmelee this vid is old watch my new videos and i like more talking so it can explain the story. -_-
lol its true in almost all 2 vs 2 against sonic first its 1 vs 1 and sonic almost dies then shadow rescues him or somtimes its 2 vs 1 then shadow appears and saves sonic. sonic should really be carefull
@TheSupersmashmelee what is that supposed to mean?
If Goku was serious Goku would knock sonic out immediately, sonic wouldn't even react since the speed of thought is way way way way way way way slower than the speed of light, anyway im gonna take a break now because we are just spamming the comment section.
Chaos Control is the only advantage sonic has over goku, but even that's not enough to take out goku. Sonic will need raw power as well to win.
A goku vs sonic fight....
With ace attorney music.
Lol
I decided to not to do the Intro
They are in an alternate dimension so power Lvls shouldn't matter ;o
I want to see sans vs goku
1. Ok i will go with your definition, so there is no fuss, so now goku can use senzu beans, and sonic wouldnt be able to do anything, at the start of the fight goku would just accelerate really fast and hit sonic in the belly, knock him out, before he even thinks of using anything.
What music 2:00 ??
SS4 goku isn't 81times faster than the speed of light. He 2 times. Still unbelievable fast.
You failed horribly anyway ssj makes ssj4 look weak now
not canon thou
Goku in base form on planet namek traveled from side of the planet to the other in a few milliseconds, that is easily the speed of sound, and last time i checked, speed of sound is faster than the speed of thought, which means at the start of the fight goku would be able to molest sonic before he even thinks about using chaos emeralds, i mean, how in the hell would sonic know to use chaos emeralds on goku, he knows nothing about him, and if he used it (continue next comment)
The end: Shadow gets up and kills Goku and Vegeta then Annoying Orange flies in out of nowhere but Shadow eats it.
never call Sonic a rat
(Continued) Thats all, im tired of writing, sorry if that was too long, i put htis out so i wouldn't have to reply with 1 part of this to one comment, and then 1 part to the other comment etc,
In conclusion, Kid goku is a match for sonic, Goku is way out of sonic's league.
Where's part 2
when part 2 coming out
(continued) and even if sonic used chaos emeralds, goku won, because that is outside help, goku doesn't need any help to turn ssj neither does he need any to travel faster than the speed of light, and if sonic used chaos emeralds, and it was allowed, that means goku can use senzu beans, so once he is tired he would instant transmission to the other side of the fucking universe and eat 1, regain all energy and become even stronger due to sayians gaining more power (Continued in next comment)
hahaha so funny
Your right, Goku or Vegeta can beat Sonic, but not Super Sonic since he has too many advantages on either of them.
I'll end it on this note. You keep saying Goku would knock Sonic out quickly but you don't seem to realize that Sonic is much faster than Goku. Sonic has fast enough to break the barrier of time itself. Goku has never gone that fast. Super Sonic can easily perform Chaos Control with his speed.
Ok let's set the record here Sonic and Shadow at their Super Forms are not Stronger than Goku and Vegeta at their Super Forms. The only advantage Sonic and Shadow have is Speed over Goku and Vegeta because Super Sonic and Super Shadow's speed are both limitless they can push themselves to go faster unlike Goku and Vegeta their speeds are limited. Here is the finish Sonic and Shadow can simply Chaos Control Goku and Vegeta to the Sun and the battle will already be over. Brains vs Brawn here.
sonic used a chaos punch thing only shadow can do that in normal form
Sure
make part 2 plz
So many fanboys. That's lgdveggeto's LSSJ Sonic sprites. Sonic and Shadow would win this
hahaha funny remember me i proved u wrong i'll do it again
+Ruben Outerbridge you ugly
Jalen Jones ha look at this loser randomly insulting me u calling me ulgy yet u haven't seen my face
Jalen Jones did i insult the guy no
Ruben Outerbridge I think you were burned pretty badly for me to be proven wrong. But go ahead and expose more your ignorance and stupidity.
(Continued) and goku as a child could move at lightning speed, take world martial arts tournament 2 for example, when goku was against krillin he was moving so fast that he wasn't visible, even tiens third eye had trouble seeing him, that is easily the speed of lightning, goku has trained his entire life, goku could make 8 after images of himself as a fucking child, coming back to my first point when i said goku traveled from 1 side of namek to the other (Continue next Comment)
Sonic did not become suoer until 92 a full year after goku's transformation in the manga in 91
(Continuing..) Now let me give you actual facts THAT ARE CANON. I'll make a list for u so try to keep up.
1. Super Sonic casually goes at light speed (research it) and not just that but Sonic has actually broken the barrier of time using pure speed. Goku has never gone that fast.
2. Super Sonic can manipulate space and time. That alone puts the power to planet destroying to shame.
3. Super Sonic's energy source is unlimited. Goku Ki is clearly limited.
4. Super Sonic can beat Goku in any form
i do but i had to comment fast
Hey your right
If you noticed sonic says that "It's time to show my ture power".
Fail
Sonic can't go super sonic 3 ?
you owe me part 2
Sonic has the power of Radits which is 1,200
And goku has a power level of 90,000,000.
And goku can go at about 186,000 miles per second. Almost the speed of light
Sonic can only go at 1 mile at every 5 seconds the speed of sound. In a battle Sonic is way outmatched.
hyper is on the level of a super sayan 4 because the transformations of sonic increase his powers more than the gokus transformations look at this example Goku:ssj1 -+ 500x ssj2-+500x ssj3- +500x ssj4 - +500x Sonic Super Sonic - +1000x Hyper sonic - +1000 so :
500 + 500 + 500 + 500 = 2000 and 1000 + 1000 = 2000 they are equal
Stay off of Sonic planet Saiyans!
theres way to many captions... More captions than action...
My ture speed?
i dont freak i think they are both strong you comper the heros in one way itdolt
Death battle already proved that shadow is stronger than vegeta.
yagoshi call s that form legendary super saiyan sonic
Yeah I'll send you the Link
go sonic i like goku but goku started it so i go for sonic and i eat the spikey thingy first
Shadow shouldve been against goku. He's stronger than vegeta and sonic
LOL are you serious. Goku and Vegeta would let Sonic and Shadow use the emeralds regardless. As saiyans they always let their opponents fight at their best. Super Sonic and Shadow can beat Goku and Vegeta. They have too many advantages over them
they could fuse into gogeta and turn super saiyan 4 and deafeat them both no matter what
Well sonic and shadow can fuse into into shadic which overkills sorry im lqte
to be honest this is probably one of the weakest fights i seen some one made. Its not very well made.... I guess its good for a beginner if thatis what you are...
Goku and vegeta just look fast cause their instant transmission technique or I will called it teleporting technique...but sonic and shadow had the true speed of light..no way they can beat sonic and shadow
Vegeta does not have instant transmision
yes they can beat them becuase there power level is way our theres so dont give me that bull
it would probably be a tie
@awesomeshadow100 no they cant
why sonic copy super saiyan 3 of goku
@MiltonLara maybe its just you :3
he said it
sonic defeeted the meterex there literly invinsabel ok
sonic would've died on the first attak
SONIC AND SHADOW IS BETTER THAN GOKU AND VEGETA!!!
thats true
salty sonic fan sonic can not turn super saiyan 3
nope if this was in a real dragon ball z cross over trust me sweet heart they would give up the minute they run after goku and vegeta turn to super saiyan blue
oopse i mean sonic and shadow