There is a random encounter on the road of an Imperial farmer heading to Windhelm wanting to join the Stormcloaks. Similarly, a Dunmer farmer can also be encountered saying he's on his way to Solitude to join the Legion since the Stormcloaks hate his kind
@@syndicatepenguin8420 which is jarring af when you realize youre the only possible non-nord stormcloak. Or the legion ditching most-all other races they had in their ranks (the only mer you find in the legion is the odd legate, no cat & lizard men either)
@@mfspectacular the Legate of Winterhold is a Dunmer too btw. I doubt there’d be much Khajiit in the Legion since their province is with the Dominion. As well as Argonians, they’re not that many in Skyrim excluding the bandit population. To expand on the technical side, stewards and housecarls of Stormcloack-aligned Jarls, several are non-nords and I guess they support whomever put them in power
@@syndicatepenguin8420 What I find interesting is besides Legates, you are the only possible FEMALE who joins the Imperial legion, do the Stormcloaks have low views of women by not having female officers? Do the Imperials have low views of women by not having them on the battlefield?
@@maverickcrow6252 Nope, nothing wrong with Stormcloaks there since I've encountered female Stormcloak Commanders in the Battle of Whiterun (Imperial side) plus there are also female Stormcloak fort commanders who are randomly generated (but they only wear the default SC cuirass) so they're all good lol. About the Imperials and views on female soldiers well I don't think it's really the actual lore and is most likely just a mistake that Bethesda overlooked for less work probably. Rikke and a female Dragonborn are the only active-combat Legionaries in vanilla and there are mods out there that adds female Legionnaires. We have Margret from Markarth who is a spy for Tullius but yeah, she ain't in the battlefield. Only Helgen and Imperial controlled Shor's watchtower features female soldiers but they're all dead and I still strongly believe Bethesda simply overlooked the addition females here lmao.
Advertise relationship to Jarls steward: smart business decision. Advertise relationship to ousted old regime: bad business decision. Her father probably told her himself not to mention him (pay attention to his character; this is exactly in line with him.)
@@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 totally agree , vignar may appear old but his brain is still small like a child's , no wonder he's easily manipulated by the stormcloaks .
That’s good that he don’t dig into politics. As he shouldn’t. Who wins, wins. They just suggest how to live, is all. It’s not like it’s A HUGE DIFFERENCE. The fuck?
Nazeem's Psychiatrists: "So, tell me about your cloud district fetish." Nazeem: "I would advice you stop trying to make sense of it. The things it will do to your mind. You will end up like me."
@@TheLordboki considering how there's confirmed theories about the hero of kvatch being sheogorath. I wouldn't be surprised about dragonborn being talos too
He is also a corrupt businessman who makes a deal with the thieves' guild and only really cares about money. He has no right to claim the moral ground at any level.
@@saekisadako2118 and afterwards he provides his influence to the thieves guild for their benefit allowing them to bribe their way out of trouble and steal from all over white run. Money is his chief concern not decency or honor.
"if a dragon attacks, the companions can handle it.. I think." Cut to way earlier in the game where they couldn't be bothered to investigate the reports of a dragon attacking the watchtower or help fight it because I'm pretty sure most of them are constantly nursing hangovers until you're put in charge, or are at the very least so full of themselves they become incompetent by proxy. Or maybe because the pay is garbage and the potential for life lost is too great. The dark brotherhood was holding off on killing Grelod the kind because the child had no money to pay them with, but they're still pissed that you did the job they were likely never going to do in the first place.
It's kind of a dilemma really, cuz of how events in Skyrim are scripted... theoretically someone will kill Grelod the kind eventually. I personally don't like this aspect of skyrim much "you're free to do anything but anything that happen should be within the script"
@@cherrycola4476 Does that make any sense? They boast about the Companions being in Whiterun, but they play no part in the main storyline against the dragons or the Civil War storyline when the city is attacked. The most likely reason is just how the quests were created like in a vacuum, again demonstrating how bad the storyline actually is. But the OP suggestion also makes sense, that they were all drunk or selfish and cowardly enough to not do the job. Lots of the quests are pest control or bullying people by punching them in the face repeatedly. There is a disconnect between the supposed honorable warriors they are described as, and the bunch of thugs that they really are.
@@antiochus87 they say themsleves they didn't care about the war and want to be neutral because they think that haven't any interest. The first time, if we go from Helgen to riverwood to get to whiterun in the beginning of the game, we see 2 of them (Aela and I don't remember the other one) behind the pelagia farm fighting and killing a giant to protect the farms. So for the dragon's thing it's like for the warrior guild in other tes, they do it only if they have gold for it. I'm sure Balgruuf won't give them a single septim for the tower attacked by a dragon, but if they was at least one script of another dragon attacking whiterun, Jorvaskr will be in danger so they will fight for free for sure. And silver hands gang aren't innocent, it's because they steal parts of Wuuthrad (didn't remember how we write it, the weapon of Ysgramor) that they are pissed of them, the case of the werewolve torture is just a plus, considering only the Circle are werewolf, and only Aela (and the one who get killed, the one with only one eye) like to be one as we can listen when we are with her, Vilkas and Farkas about getting Kodlak soul's free of the werewolf curse to get to Sovngard like he wanted.
I was curious about joining the stormcloak once, and during the battle of whiterun, watching Balgruuf being taken away, that's it. I can't. He's like my 2nd friend after the guy I escaped from Helgen with. I wish Balgruuf could stay as the jarl even after he lose.
I wish there were a way for us to insult him by mentioning _all_ of the properties we get when he brags about his farm. Also would like him to react to the Dragonborn being thane of a bunch of holds. A "fear" reaction would be great. "Umm.. I suddenly remembered I have to be somewhere right now." :Nazeem runs away:
Tbh I never really do the civil war questline I prefer my character to stay out of it because both sides arnt fit to run skyrim as far as I'm concerned so I just let them have it out with each other I wish there was a 3rd option to join or that Bethesda let you scout your own soldiers and take over skyrim yourself but that's OK it is what it is
Yeah a 3rd option to join the Forsworn and much like the "Destroy Dark Brotherhood" side quest the Civil War questline will be smaller and will evolve around the Reach AND as a downside you wont be able to become a thane of Eastmarch and purchase Hjerim The Devs just lost a good opportunity there
I wish they'd introduce a game set during a war between Tamriel and Akavir. Ever since I heard about the Ka Po' Tun, I really want to hear more about them
@@jackalhead7433 I love the idea of joining the forsworn and winning with them. Gives the more chaotic solution, and I dig it. Also Markarth is my favorite city, and the Reach is my favorite hold (Falkreath is a close second.)
Balgruuf deserves to remain Jarl cause he didn't pick no side until the Stormcloaks attacked his city Balgruuf wanted to stay out of the war and keep it safe //Edit: I made a war in the comments just by simply saying Balgruuf deserves to remain Jarl I never said he was loyal to the Empire
Until ulfric make him decide once and for all a side. What? You seriously think that he Will be neutral forever? And the civil war would be forever in that state because you're stupid ballin doesn't want to be a man and a real leader and make a decision?
@@cwolffe510 Ulfric offered Balgruuf the chance to willingly submit to his rule. That is what forced Balgruuf to go with the Empire - because Ulfric wasn't going to respect Whiterun's neutrality.
@@dutchpatriot17 Yes, but in Ulfric’s defense, I don’t believe he really had a choice. If he wanted ALL of Skyrim to be ruled exclusively by the Nords, that had to include its capital, not just of the province itself, but of all its trade as well. This is one of the main reasons why Whiterun was the first hold on Ulfric’s list to be retaken by the Stormcloaks. Even if he had left Balgruuf alone and respected Whiterun’s neutrality during the war, it couldn’t stay that way forever. Ulfric would’ve had to confront Balgruuf on the matter eventually, even if he had to do so in person. In order to be officially crowned High King of Skyrim, Ulfric needs Balgruuf’s vote amongst the other Jarls in the Moot, and he can’t really do that if he’s still neutral.
That would never happen since he explicitly said he was neutral. He's a war veteran probably knows how disastrous a battle would be for whiterun and it's denizens. Which is why he literally only sides with the Empire if the stormcucks decide to attack the city. He would have sided with Ulfric if the Imperials attacked whiterun instead.
"Whiterun is home to the companions" oh you mean that same whiterun, and those same companions, that let witches walk all the way into the city, all the way up to jorrvaskr, through the hall and all of its warriors down to the basement where kodlak's room is, and then off him, who was supposedly one of the greatest warriors of tamriel? Those same guys. Well who knows how well theyd handle a dragon Also so funny that "the security in whiterun is terrible" guy becomes guard commander
Adrienne's father was the steward to the Jarl who sided with the Empire and had to be deposed by the Stormcloaks. Meanwhile, there's no mention of Arcadia losing business - the "do you ever think of returning to Cyrodil?" line and her response to it is dialogue you get regardless of who controls Whiterun. Arcadia is also the only potion seller, so she basically has a monopoly - no way she's losing any business. The reason why Adrienne loses business is because there are two blacksmiths in town. The other blacksmith, by Adrienne's own admission, has better skills and a better forge, is the Jarl's brother, and is closely connected to one of the most respected factions in Skyrim. Adrienne literally tells people to go order from him instead if she can't meet their demands. In fact, one of the first things you see when you enter Whiterun is Adrienne telling a Battleborn to go order swords from Eorlund Gray-mane, and he refuses because he doesn't want to give a Stormcloak supporter any business, or trust whatever a Stormcloak made.
@@Former_Halo_Fan "These Stormcloaks are ridiculous. They won't shop here because they think I'll sell them poisoned tonics. I should just go back to Cyrodiil." -If Stormcloaks control Whiterun She does says that if the Stormcloaks control the city She almost looses her business because she is not a nord so do not twist words here: "The Stormcloaks don't like buying from anyone that isn't a Nord. If I wasn't married to Ulfberth, I'd be out of business." Her husband's race saved her from being bankrupt.
@@Guto_Loco_Gushek_Brasil Beirand was also Imperial-aligned, hell, he was the primary supplier of armor for the legion... but he's busy as ever when the Stormcloaks take over Solitude...
I am Seplicus Septim of The Septim Dynasty. I am the greatest Imperial since the great Tiber Septim. Who was my great-great ancestor. He was a dragonborn as well as his entire bloodline. Including me. I was commander of the Imperial Legion and am now Emperor of Cyrodiil. I rule with my queen Raylen Rederon and our daughter princess Syria Septim. We are the best. Question this fact at the peril of your life for assassins may be hired to harass you and terrorize your life and wellbeing until one of them kills you or you kill yourself or nut up and kill them systematically or as they try you. Good luck either way. God's speed. And the 9 guide your light.
2:31 Could have been worse off bae, the damn Stormcloaks could easily "nationalise" your shop as you took the commission to smith for the Empire under that Battleborn prick, making you a "collaborator". Be thankful you are left alone after the war.
Tempted to change sides to the Imperials now just because of Nazeem, even though I chill with Paarthurnax at The Throat of the World he somehow gets another way to boast and talk down at me.
@@juanfisi as if the stormckloaks dont lol. not to mentions the same hapoens to the battle borns before olfrid starts working with the guild. the stormckloaks are just some low iq thugs that live at the expense of the imperial intellegentsia that supports economy.
Stormcloaks be like “Now that the Stormcloaks are in charge of Whiterun, we can finally restore Talos worship!” as if there isn’t 20 foot statue of Talos in the middle of town and a random dude spouting Talos worship with no repercussions from the Imperials. Vignar is one of the most disingenuous jarls in all of Skyrim.
And You think that with the imperials taking skyrim the thalmor wouldn't notice that 20 foot statue and Will go to whiterun to kidnap everyone on sight meanwhile the imperials doing nothing and saying "we are recovering"?
That is my problem with the Stormcloaks attacking Whiterun. You won't find any other city that displays their Talos statue out in the open and let a preacher scream his lungs out about Talos worship.
The main problem I have with the stormcloaks is they have distrust of any race besides Nords which is sad because Ulfric and his buddy seem they are ok with the other race.
@@lakehosken4016 Well besides that, if You talk to him or his second in command they just tell You as long as You believe in freedom to pray to who You like, then You’re ok in his book. but my point is he never went out his way to say racial things like most of the folks their that are nords.
@@WaylonMoone That is true, and perhaps you can take that at face value, but racist or not, there's an extremely high chance that he's gonna be nice upfront regardless of your race because, well, let's face it, at that point in time the Civil War is at a standstill and he (along with the Legion, let's be fair) can't afford to turn down a volunteer .
@@lakehosken4016 I go with the hypothesis that Ulfric isn't personally racist, but enough of his people are that he needs to respect their wishes. It's still a fact that he gave Dunmer refugees a home in his city, and with the war there's no way he could justify spending resources on improving their living conditions.
I never really liked either option when it came to the civil war quest. The only tie breaker in my opinion is the Thalmor and what they want. Since they want Ulfric to win (surprising I know), I always end up joining up with the empire (plus, there’s dialogue hinting that the empire only needs time to heal before they can take the fight to the evil bastard elves again, so yea)
This facts. You also hear dialogue from unfrocked after winning the civil war that they were gonna go to the thalmor and attack. Even tho they barely win against 1/10th of the empire and the thalmor nearly wiping out the empire right before Skyrim
This isn't true in the slightest. The Thalmor don't want the war to end, they want neither side to win. It's why Elenwyn was at Helgen, she was trying to prolong the war. The Civil War only weakens and distracts both factions, allowing for easier fight for the Thalmor. It's not a 1/10 of the empire. It's not all of it granted, but they did send a few legions and their best general to fight. The Empire at this point isn't even an empire either. It consists of Cyrodil and High rock. That's it. And a unified Skyrim is scarier and more powerful than you think. Hammerfell pushed the Aldmeri Dominion out, by sea non the less. This shows that is actually possible for one county to beat them. On top of that Skyrim is impossible to get to for the Thalmor on a victory, as High rock will also likely secede and the three human countries will probably end up allies. A victory for the Stormcloaks or the Empire is disastrous for the Thalmor.
@@--Cat-- I feel like some kingdoms of high rock would try to become independent, some would side with the empire and maybe some would even side with the Dominion. High Rock if the Stormcloaks win will likely be thrown into chaos since they constantly in-fight even at the best of times. It would still be really cool to see a Tamriel plunged into that much chaos once the empire inevitably falls.
@@doronaznible7298 see I can see the infighting but they are 100% going to become allies with Skyrim and hammerfell. You got to realize where High Rock sits geologically it has hammer fell to the south and Skyrim to the east there is nothing else. Being enemies of both those countries basically is signing a death warrant. And if High Rock sides with the Dominion it is one hundred percent a sign for Hammerfell and Skyrim to destroy them. Siding with the empire is just not smart at that point as they have very little power anymore. Siding with either also doesn't mean anything as High Rock can't get *any* aid in either situation. The smartest move would be to secede and ally with it's neighbors, possible even offering the orcs a permanent Orsinium to get them as allies as well.
@@--Cat-- Well, if you listen in on Ulfric and Galmar in Windhelm, they talk about High Rock staying out of the conflict and Galmar suggests punishing them for abstaining. Stormcloak rule doesn't sound very appealing to non-Nords countries, mostly because the Nords tend to be assholes to the other races.
0:48 Considering how the LDB is likely a Shezarrine alongside Tiber Septim, this could be literally correct since you take the city with the Stormcloaks.
Balgruff should have fought to the death then dying. The name was wearing steel plated armor and had like 6 guards with him, plus a houscarl with crazy magical powers and was facing 3 men, the Dragonborn, Galmar and ralof then a few stormclocks who are more farmers than warriors.
ah, yes, because Reyvn Sadri, Aval Atheron, Niranye, Ulundil, Keerava, Brand-Shei, Madesi, Marise Aravel, Wylandriah and Madena have all been fired/ been forced to close their shops due to Stormcloak rule. Oh, wait...
@@bierwolf8360 You mean in Riften, one of the most corrupt cities in Skyrim, whose non-Nord shopkeeps live off every dime because the war is destroying their supply chain? Or did you mean in Windhelm, where the majority of the non-Nords are spat on and forced to live in the city's slums or outside it's walls, making less than nothing?
@@joshuagross3151 neither changed the fact they're still very in business - and also make business with Nords. Tova talking to Aval, guards pointing you towards Sadri's, etc. And almost everyone in Riften's living a hard life. Anyway, you're a dirty communist
I just kind of leave the war alone. I like the Jarls on both sides more than their replacements. I especially don't like Maven or the Silverblood brothers.
Yeah. Especially because of threats that she’s gonna put you in Jail for being a thieves guild member. Where then, you have to use the raise zombie spell tome on her for if you REALLY don’t like her want to make a difference in The Rift as well on your own time that’s not a quest nor a miscellaneous objective AT ALL instead of The Reach only about letting Madanach escape or killing him.
I mean, Farengar is kind of a know-it-all but he's a decent enough dude and doesn't really bother anybody. Heimskr... is just annoying, and he's the main reason I choose not to live in Whiterun (on top of Breezehome just being miserably small). Only problem is he's a total Talos zealot, and the Stormcloaks are kinda all about that noise. Oh well... You can always give them a little encouragement by giving Heimskr a certain Illusion-induced push when nobody's watching.
First time I went to Windhelm I instantly knew who to side with. And now after seeing this (especially Addriana's dialogue), I'm glad that the one and only time I completed the civil war was at the head of a dragon army knocking on Ulfric's bedroom. Maybe I'll do the civil war again and bring an army of peasants this time.
First of all would barely be a thalmor invasion. The thalmor are weaked by the great war and tell me, how they Will managed to move troops troughout the borders of skyrim? When they finally managed to pass the borders, the nords will absolutely have already ambush them or Made some tactic to anhiliated them. Second, the nords forces united are much stronger that the destroyed legions of the empire. Look what only a garrison of Nords did to the majority of the thalmor army in red ring, what do you think that a true army of Nords and with military plans to defend their land would do? The Empire is no better than all the nords united.
well the only thing Eorlund was maybe being a little dishonest about was "comes the end of the day, Stormcloaks and Imperials ain't that much different, BOTH sides want to tell you how to live your life" part, since the imperials and Stormcloaks ARE kinda different in how they go about things. Eorlund was honestly just telling us his OPINION and how HE FEELS about it, he's not really a political expert on the civil war i guess, but that's ok he doesn't need to be.
And the Empire doesn't execute innocents, it's the Thalmor. The question you should be asking is ¿Who brought the Thalmor to Skyrim? Yeah, right, Ulfric did.
@@alexestrada2764 empire doesnt execute innocents? So, you must've forgotten the literal intro to skyrim. "He's not on the list". "Forget the list, he goes to the block."
@@Peaserist Lol, again, Blame Ulfric and his rebellion, because of them your character gets almost executed. And you weren't exactly innocent, crossing a border illegally, which probably doesn't deserve a death sentence but, again, thank Ulfric.
I’m pretty sure that’s the case for every hold except whiterun. I remember in my imperial play through their uniforms didn’t change, but they did in cities like wind helm and riften.
i definitely agree with you that Eurlond made sense, but IMHO, i think the rest of the pro-Stormcloak's there in Whiterun had valid points too, or at least honest and heartfelt opinions (which i definitely understand them as well).
I stand with the empire. My only regret is maven black briar becoming jarl. But since all gold storyline are Canon (if the player doesn't do it, canonical somone else did) that means the thieves guild basically takes over and corrupts skyrim so what does it matter.
Better for ulfric to be in charge then the empire witch talos himslef in the form of wolf in morrowind says the empires time is done. Is the only reason i side with them as a khajiit
@Jacob Wilson No it's not, traditional Nords worship Kyne not Talos. Talos would've been seen in the same light as ysgrammor had he not ascended to godhood
As an Imperial loyalist, I'm afraid I'll have to leave a dislike. When the Aldmeri Dominion take advantage of a weakened post-war Skyrim, y'all wish you'd still have the Empire's protection.
Yeah sure the Thalmor could easily come to war against Skyrim while traveling through hammerfel!!!! redguards hate then. Well Cyrodil?? Through the mountains full of trolls, spiders and goblins? Through Morrowind? It's a wastleland..they'll die without food. The Stormcloaks might be asses but THEY are right!!!! If the Thalmor comes through Cyrodil, they can't navigate the snowy mountains like the Nords do...Nords know their mountains. And chances of empire turning their back on Thalmor are high when they're moving through Cyrodil.
@@jayeezus They aren't right, Ulfric did all this for personal gain; using the guise of Nord Freedoms. Majority of the Nords are racist and ignorant. They don't even know their own history as magic users. The only issue with the Imperials is, Talos is banned. That they can be prosecuted. Even then, that was Ulfric's fault too; it was even said in the game. This forced Elisif to do as the Thalmor said. There are videos, made by those knowing the lore, that prove Balgruuf and Tullius are the only smart and rational leaders in the game
@@Shalyn-ln9tu Balgruuf is no rational ruler. Dude left his kids and got exiled lolll I would've died protecting my hold. And no Ulfric doesn't have any need for power. He did it for vengeance, his father died in a prison. He got betrayed by markarth. NOT all Nords are racist. Literally every race is racist lol. The Dunmer the worst. Nords gave Dunmer home but they didn't do shit to earn it. Didn't join the cause, were imperial spies. It's just Roliff who gives Nords a bad name. And yeah the magic stuffs are dumb...so are all the Tamriellic people?
@@jayeezus you are either really dumb, or trolling. Literal experts even said Ulfric is the worst. The game even proved it. This stuff isn't serious, but it just parallels real world politics and how stupid people are to blindly follow a leader without looking at all the facts. "Every race is racist", Nords living in Windhelm are the most racist in the entire game. The Dunmer are freaking refugees, can't get them to do anything if they are being threatened on a daily basis and calling them spies. Now his father, he attacked a city. The people who took over Markarth is at fault, forcing the Forsworn to leave their rightful home
@@jayeezus Well the fact that the Thalmor secretly helps the stormcloacks is all the answer you need. But I still want to point out your mistakes. If the Thalmor captures Cyrodiil they don't need to climb mountains or take any treacherous path. They just enter Skyrim through Falkreath border. And I doubt Nords alone can defend that border for long and resist the shear power of Aldmeri Dominion. After they enter through falkreath, they backdoor whiterun (the central city) and then Skyrim is as good as an elf country. Stormcloacks better hope the empire isn't defeated in the second great war, because if they do, neither nords nor redgaurds stand much of a chance.
Is there non nord NPC in this game who likes Stormcloaks?
Thalmor VS Stormcloaks - ua-cam.com/video/r4Cav6kXMuU/v-deo.html
There is a random encounter on the road of an Imperial farmer heading to Windhelm wanting to join the Stormcloaks. Similarly, a Dunmer farmer can also be encountered saying he's on his way to Solitude to join the Legion since the Stormcloaks hate his kind
@@syndicatepenguin8420 which is jarring af when you realize youre the only possible non-nord stormcloak. Or the legion ditching most-all other races they had in their ranks (the only mer you find in the legion is the odd legate, no cat & lizard men either)
@@mfspectacular the Legate of Winterhold is a Dunmer too btw. I doubt there’d be much Khajiit in the Legion since their province is with the Dominion. As well as Argonians, they’re not that many in Skyrim excluding the bandit population. To expand on the technical side, stewards and housecarls of Stormcloack-aligned Jarls, several are non-nords and I guess they support whomever put them in power
@@syndicatepenguin8420 What I find interesting is besides Legates, you are the only possible FEMALE who joins the Imperial legion, do the Stormcloaks have low views of women by not having female officers? Do the Imperials have low views of women by not having them on the battlefield?
@@maverickcrow6252 Nope, nothing wrong with Stormcloaks there since I've encountered female Stormcloak Commanders in the Battle of Whiterun (Imperial side) plus there are also female Stormcloak fort commanders who are randomly generated (but they only wear the default SC cuirass) so they're all good lol. About the Imperials and views on female soldiers well I don't think it's really the actual lore and is most likely just a mistake that Bethesda overlooked for less work probably. Rikke and a female Dragonborn are the only active-combat Legionaries in vanilla and there are mods out there that adds female Legionnaires. We have Margret from Markarth who is a spy for Tullius but yeah, she ain't in the battlefield. Only Helgen and Imperial controlled Shor's watchtower features female soldiers but they're all dead and I still strongly believe Bethesda simply overlooked the addition females here lmao.
Adrianne seems to forget that fact that her DAD IS EXILED 🤣🤣
Poor guy
Advertise relationship to Jarls steward: smart business decision.
Advertise relationship to ousted old regime: bad business decision.
Her father probably told her himself not to mention him (pay attention to his character; this is exactly in line with him.)
@@TheBurningWarrior They legit have the same surname 😂😂
Her father isn't exactly loyal to Balgruf....if the Gray Mane's steward dies her father returns and become's the steward of Jarl Gray Mane.
He's just hanging out in the Solitude basement, to be fair
i don't think vignar is a bad jarl, he's just not ballin'
and that's why he sucks, Balgruuf is BALLIN'
Not to mention he's a traitor
Good. Whiterun needs a serious Jarl, and not a brain-fogged man child.
@@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533 totally agree , vignar may appear old but his brain is still small like a child's , no wonder he's easily manipulated by the stormcloaks .
@@ala1178 I think you mean this "ballin" dude.
Everyone: *Talks about Stormcloak*
Nazeem: *Doesn't care about it except mentioning about going to the cloud district very often*
Such a variety in his lines of dialogue 😂
Nazeem’s Sigma Make Grindset
That’s good that he don’t dig into politics. As he shouldn’t. Who wins, wins. They just suggest how to live, is all. It’s not like it’s A HUGE DIFFERENCE. The fuck?
After all that and they still let him advise the jarl, surely he must have something useful to say, maybe on farming
Nazeem's Psychiatrists: "So, tell me about your cloud district fetish."
Nazeem: "I would advice you stop trying to make sense of it. The things it will do to your mind. You will end up like me."
"It was Talos that helped us win back the city."
Well, he's not wrong. Only the side the Dragonborn is on will win the city.
Played is Talos incarnate confirmed.
@@TheLordboki considering how there's confirmed theories about the hero of kvatch being sheogorath. I wouldn't be surprised about dragonborn being talos too
@@asincereman5297 I think hero of kvatch became sheogorath, not is
@@cly7894 He wasn't always Sheogorath, but yes he did canonically turn into the new Sheogorath. The one we meet in Skyrim is the Hero of Kvatch.
@@speedle9190 AND THE CHEESE
Once I found out that Jarl Balgruuf wouldn't be Ballin' with Ulfric's Skyrim, it sealed the deal for me and I never stood for the Stormcloaks
Plus, you know... Racism
@@wut5910 every race in skyrim is racist.
Balgruuf should be high king
Well Balgruff knew the Dragonborn was a stormcloak since its the you who delivers the Axe, so Balgruuf was the one who betrayed you
Ulfric gave him chance and even said he would come around but he pussied out in the end and stayed loyal to the empire
7:35 Just a Dovah casually flying around
I swear I heard a dragon roar, but was like "nah couldn't be" nice to see I was right.
And I thought your as crazy as Sven's mother, but you were right! 😂
How'd you notice lol
@@meydintorki dragon roar
@@DeadMouseRedband a dovahkiin with dragon hearing
Olfrid is a hypocrite after what happens in 'Missing in Action' to complain about exile when Thorald was being tortured in a Thalmor dungeon.
He is also a corrupt businessman who makes a deal with the thieves' guild and only really cares about money. He has no right to claim the moral ground at any level.
@@sirreepicheeprules7443 100%, yup. Jon Battle-Born is really the only Battle-Born I can respect, excluding Lars because he is a literal child lol.
Biggest bonus of taking the city as stormcloaks is putting the annoying battle borns in their place
@@sirreepicheeprules7443 he only made a deal with them to rescue his friend that's all
@@saekisadako2118 and afterwards he provides his influence to the thieves guild for their benefit allowing them to bribe their way out of trouble and steal from all over white run. Money is his chief concern not decency or honor.
4:12 Oflina gets Jon,
The fruits and veggies get Carlotta,
But Belethor? He gets
*P A I D .*
And paid is what we want to see
Who runs Barter Town?
BELETHOR RUNS BARTER TOWN!
"if a dragon attacks, the companions can handle it.. I think."
Cut to way earlier in the game where they couldn't be bothered to investigate the reports of a dragon attacking the watchtower or help fight it because I'm pretty sure most of them are constantly nursing hangovers until you're put in charge, or are at the very least so full of themselves they become incompetent by proxy.
Or maybe because the pay is garbage and the potential for life lost is too great. The dark brotherhood was holding off on killing Grelod the kind because the child had no money to pay them with, but they're still pissed that you did the job they were likely never going to do in the first place.
Or maybe, just maybe they didn't know. The guard didn't stop by the companions he went straight to the jarl who is in charge of the city.
It's kind of a dilemma really, cuz of how events in Skyrim are scripted... theoretically someone will kill Grelod the kind eventually. I personally don't like this aspect of skyrim much "you're free to do anything but anything that happen should be within the script"
They said that he wasn't the only one with a contract out on her
@@cherrycola4476 Does that make any sense? They boast about the Companions being in Whiterun, but they play no part in the main storyline against the dragons or the Civil War storyline when the city is attacked.
The most likely reason is just how the quests were created like in a vacuum, again demonstrating how bad the storyline actually is. But the OP suggestion also makes sense, that they were all drunk or selfish and cowardly enough to not do the job.
Lots of the quests are pest control or bullying people by punching them in the face repeatedly. There is a disconnect between the supposed honorable warriors they are described as, and the bunch of thugs that they really are.
@@antiochus87 they say themsleves they didn't care about the war and want to be neutral because they think that haven't any interest.
The first time, if we go from Helgen to riverwood to get to whiterun in the beginning of the game, we see 2 of them (Aela and I don't remember the other one) behind the pelagia farm fighting and killing a giant to protect the farms.
So for the dragon's thing it's like for the warrior guild in other tes, they do it only if they have gold for it. I'm sure Balgruuf won't give them a single septim for the tower attacked by a dragon, but if they was at least one script of another dragon attacking whiterun, Jorvaskr will be in danger so they will fight for free for sure.
And silver hands gang aren't innocent, it's because they steal parts of Wuuthrad (didn't remember how we write it, the weapon of Ysgramor) that they are pissed of them, the case of the werewolve torture is just a plus, considering only the Circle are werewolf, and only Aela (and the one who get killed, the one with only one eye) like to be one as we can listen when we are with her, Vilkas and Farkas about getting Kodlak soul's free of the werewolf curse to get to Sovngard like he wanted.
Eorlund’s comment on the situation was always my favorite
2:18
WTF I've literally never heard Adrianne say this before. "How's it going?" Sounds like a distinctly American greeting, lmao
00:00 How dare you stand where he stood!
I was curious about joining the stormcloak once, and during the battle of whiterun, watching Balgruuf being taken away, that's it. I can't. He's like my 2nd friend after the guy I escaped from Helgen with. I wish Balgruuf could stay as the jarl even after he lose.
3:50 oh wow, I didn't know that Stormcloaks is a Gamer™️
Iodolf: How could the Empire leave us in the hands of these stinking half-wit Nords?"
Also Iodolf: A stinking half-wit Nord
Ferengar really looking to invoke the "are you essential" question with his rudeness.
Don't ask him stupid questions then.
Nazeem be like: "huh? Was there a civil war? Didn't know about it, I'm too busy going to the Cloud District"
Sofia absolutely ended Nazeem's career lmaooo
Simnir: "Look at me. I'm the captain of the Guard now."
Exactly what comes in mind when i hear that
In a nutshell 😂 he looks like he bought that uniform
Heimsky... Someone call Lord Sheogorath, another citizen of Shivering Isles has escaped.
I have never seen Hulda outside her tavern. 🤔
It's Immersive citizens mod
Is the dialogue people use in this video all in vanilla as well? Or is some of the dialogue added through mods? I guess I'm asking is it canon?
@@aleyoakenshield5384 all dialogs in vanilla game
@@FerzenRPG except sofia
That Nazeem part 😂
I keep him alive just for that dialogue
Priceless
I wish there were a way for us to insult him by mentioning _all_ of the properties we get when he brags about his farm. Also would like him to react to the Dragonborn being thane of a bunch of holds. A "fear" reaction would be great. "Umm.. I suddenly remembered I have to be somewhere right now." :Nazeem runs away:
Tbh I never really do the civil war questline I prefer my character to stay out of it because both sides arnt fit to run skyrim as far as I'm concerned so I just let them have it out with each other I wish there was a 3rd option to join or that Bethesda let you scout your own soldiers and take over skyrim yourself but that's OK it is what it is
Staying out of it is what the Thalmor want, they want the war to go on as long as possible
Yeah a 3rd option to join the Forsworn and much like the "Destroy Dark Brotherhood" side quest the Civil War questline will be smaller and will evolve around the Reach AND as a downside you wont be able to become a thane of Eastmarch and purchase Hjerim
The Devs just lost a good opportunity there
I wish they'd introduce a game set during a war between Tamriel and Akavir. Ever since I heard about the Ka Po' Tun, I really want to hear more about them
@@jackalhead7433 I love the idea of joining the forsworn and winning with them. Gives the more chaotic solution, and I dig it. Also Markarth is my favorite city, and the Reach is my favorite hold (Falkreath is a close second.)
@@gabestokes4222 My exact thoughts
I'd like to think they offered the Jarl spot to Eorlund first, but he was just like: "Are you blind boy? I'm a blacksmith."
10 years later... people keep fighting over who's right on the civil war. Ah shit, here we go again
That’s why it’s such a great game
Tullius makes an extremely fair point, but I side with the Stormcloaks regardless
For the Empire
Certainly keeps things interesting.
Both sides have merits & flaws.
It makes individual playthroughs interesting, especially with the right mods.
The elder scrolls 6 can't come soon enough. We need to know who canonically won. And don't give that dragonbreak bs
7:36 I saw a dragon at the back.
Belethor is basically Mr Krabs.
Mr Karbs is Belethor's crustsona (he sells his sister for 62 cents)
Belethor scares me more than Anise everytime he threateningly smiles at me "doo come baaack"
Balgruuf deserves to remain Jarl cause he didn't pick no side until the Stormcloaks attacked his city
Balgruuf wanted to stay out of the war and keep it safe
//Edit: I made a war in the comments just by simply saying Balgruuf deserves to remain Jarl I never said he was loyal to the Empire
Didn’t he pick the imperials before the stormcloaks attack though?
Until ulfric make him decide once and for all a side. What? You seriously think that he Will be neutral forever? And the civil war would be forever in that state because you're stupid ballin doesn't want to be a man and a real leader and make a decision?
@@Tuturial464 Yes, he did. I lost respect for him when he rejected Ulfric’s axe. Ulfric offered Balgruuf friendship, and he spat in his face.
@@cwolffe510 Ulfric offered Balgruuf the chance to willingly submit to his rule. That is what forced Balgruuf to go with the Empire - because Ulfric wasn't going to respect Whiterun's neutrality.
@@dutchpatriot17 Yes, but in Ulfric’s defense, I don’t believe he really had a choice. If he wanted ALL of Skyrim to be ruled exclusively by the Nords, that had to include its capital, not just of the province itself, but of all its trade as well. This is one of the main reasons why Whiterun was the first hold on Ulfric’s list to be retaken by the Stormcloaks. Even if he had left Balgruuf alone and respected Whiterun’s neutrality during the war, it couldn’t stay that way forever. Ulfric would’ve had to confront Balgruuf on the matter eventually, even if he had to do so in person. In order to be officially crowned High King of Skyrim, Ulfric needs Balgruuf’s vote amongst the other Jarls in the Moot, and he can’t really do that if he’s still neutral.
You have no idea how many times I’ve looked for this exact video, and then you just go and make it! ty
Strange how there’s no dialogue from Adrianne in regards to her father losing the spot of Steward
Wish we could convince Balgruuf to join the Stormcloaks.
There should be a certain sequence that leads to Balgruff joining stotmcloaks
That would never happen since he explicitly said he was neutral. He's a war veteran probably knows how disastrous a battle would be for whiterun and it's denizens. Which is why he literally only sides with the Empire if the stormcucks decide to attack the city. He would have sided with Ulfric if the Imperials attacked whiterun instead.
Praise the mighty Tacos!
Wait, wait - was that Nazeem? And he was actually in the Cloud District?????
He does get to the cloud district very often.
"Whiterun is home to the companions" oh you mean that same whiterun, and those same companions, that let witches walk all the way into the city, all the way up to jorrvaskr, through the hall and all of its warriors down to the basement where kodlak's room is, and then off him, who was supposedly one of the greatest warriors of tamriel? Those same guys. Well who knows how well theyd handle a dragon
Also so funny that "the security in whiterun is terrible" guy becomes guard commander
I mean with that guy’s comment you could take it as “If you want something done right, you better do it yourself”
I've never seen Heimskr acknowledge you saving Tamriel.
Same with Farangar
Poor Adrienne and Arcadia, losing business just because they're Imperials. Honestly, the Stormcloaks are so short-sighted.
Adrienne's father was the steward to the Jarl who sided with the Empire and had to be deposed by the Stormcloaks. Meanwhile, there's no mention of Arcadia losing business - the "do you ever think of returning to Cyrodil?" line and her response to it is dialogue you get regardless of who controls Whiterun. Arcadia is also the only potion seller, so she basically has a monopoly - no way she's losing any business.
The reason why Adrienne loses business is because there are two blacksmiths in town. The other blacksmith, by Adrienne's own admission, has better skills and a better forge, is the Jarl's brother, and is closely connected to one of the most respected factions in Skyrim. Adrienne literally tells people to go order from him instead if she can't meet their demands. In fact, one of the first things you see when you enter Whiterun is Adrienne telling a Battleborn to go order swords from Eorlund Gray-mane, and he refuses because he doesn't want to give a Stormcloak supporter any business, or trust whatever a Stormcloak made.
@@Former_Halo_Fan "These Stormcloaks are ridiculous. They won't shop here because they think I'll sell them poisoned tonics. I should just go back to Cyrodiil." -If Stormcloaks control Whiterun
She does says that if the Stormcloaks control the city
She almost looses her business because she is not a nord so do not twist words here:
"The Stormcloaks don't like buying from anyone that isn't a Nord. If I wasn't married to Ulfberth, I'd be out of business."
Her husband's race saved her from being bankrupt.
Not because they're Imperials, but because they are Imperial-aligned. A few words make a big difference.
@@Guto_Loco_Gushek_Brasil Beirand was also Imperial-aligned, hell, he was the primary supplier of armor for the legion... but he's busy as ever when the Stormcloaks take over Solitude...
@@Former_Halo_Fan good cope
Based Sofia
Ah yes, one of the main reasons I'm an Imperial: at least the Imps bathe regularily
I am Seplicus Septim of The Septim Dynasty. I am the greatest Imperial since the great Tiber Septim. Who was my great-great ancestor. He was a dragonborn as well as his entire bloodline. Including me. I was commander of the Imperial Legion and am now Emperor of Cyrodiil. I rule with my queen Raylen Rederon and our daughter princess Syria Septim. We are the best. Question this fact at the peril of your life for assassins may be hired to harass you and terrorize your life and wellbeing until one of them kills you or you kill yourself or nut up and kill them systematically or as they try you. Good luck either way. God's speed. And the 9 guide your light.
@@damiendingus2539 ok
@@damiendingus2539 ok
Ulfberth sounds like a political expert. Propably runs a secret talk show
Sofia savagely burning Nazeem is why I adore her!😊
This is a pretty cool thing to see. I have a character made to side with the Stormcloaks just to see the other side.
I plan to do the same with the Imperials, even though I am a Stormcloak myself.
I prefer stormcloaks. I did 1 character on imperial side.
@@tribaldefender473 same here bruh 🐻💙💪🏽
Where were the Companions when the dragon attacked the western watchtower then?
Probably drinking or hunting
Those chairs look uncomfortable af
2:31 Could have been worse off bae, the damn Stormcloaks could easily "nationalise" your shop as you took the commission to smith for the Empire under that Battleborn prick, making you a "collaborator". Be thankful you are left alone after the war.
Tempted to change sides to the Imperials now just because of Nazeem, even though I chill with Paarthurnax at The Throat of the World he somehow gets another way to boast and talk down at me.
Reject Talos, Worship Shor!
Why would Shor worship...himself?
@@Foodisgood stop licking bethesda's retconning boots .
Battle Born can rot in oblivion, if the Stormcloack don't rob him I will.
if you cant build then rob.
@muslimayupov are you a bot?
@@juanfisi nah just describing the thugcloaks policy
@muslimayupov well batteborn make deals with the thieves guild. They have no right to conplain
@@juanfisi as if the stormckloaks dont lol. not to mentions the same hapoens to the battle borns before olfrid starts working with the guild. the stormckloaks are just some low iq thugs that live at the expense of the imperial intellegentsia that supports economy.
Sofia at her best :D
7:40 ah yes another dragon attack in whiterun, time to lose npcs
Ah, I remember first seeing these after I completed this questline, it was so interesting.
Belethor is on his Sigma grindset fr
Stormcloaks be like “Now that the Stormcloaks are in charge of Whiterun, we can finally restore Talos worship!” as if there isn’t 20 foot statue of Talos in the middle of town and a random dude spouting Talos worship with no repercussions from the Imperials. Vignar is one of the most disingenuous jarls in all of Skyrim.
And You think that with the imperials taking skyrim the thalmor wouldn't notice that 20 foot statue and Will go to whiterun to kidnap everyone on sight meanwhile the imperials doing nothing and saying "we are recovering"?
@@JoseAlejandro-xc6fb Whiterun is already occupied by the imperials.
That is my problem with the Stormcloaks attacking Whiterun. You won't find any other city that displays their Talos statue out in the open and let a preacher scream his lungs out about Talos worship.
The ending was perfect 👍🏼
The main problem I have with the stormcloaks is they have distrust of any race besides Nords which is sad because Ulfric and his buddy seem they are ok with the other race.
That's why his Dunmer population is kept in the slums and Argonian dockworkers aren't allowed inside the city walls, right?
@@lakehosken4016 Well besides that, if You talk to him or his second in command they just tell You as long as You believe in freedom to pray to who You like, then You’re ok in his book. but my point is he never went out his way to say racial things like most of the folks their that are nords.
@@WaylonMoone That is true, and perhaps you can take that at face value, but racist or not, there's an extremely high chance that he's gonna be nice upfront regardless of your race because, well, let's face it, at that point in time the Civil War is at a standstill and he (along with the Legion, let's be fair) can't afford to turn down a volunteer .
@@lakehosken4016 I go with the hypothesis that Ulfric isn't personally racist, but enough of his people are that he needs to respect their wishes. It's still a fact that he gave Dunmer refugees a home in his city, and with the war there's no way he could justify spending resources on improving their living conditions.
@@howlingdin9332 It's not a fact he gave Dunmer refugees a home at all - they were already living there over 170 years before Ulfric was even a Jarl.
I never really liked either option when it came to the civil war quest. The only tie breaker in my opinion is the Thalmor and what they want. Since they want Ulfric to win (surprising I know), I always end up joining up with the empire (plus, there’s dialogue hinting that the empire only needs time to heal before they can take the fight to the evil bastard elves again, so yea)
This facts. You also hear dialogue from unfrocked after winning the civil war that they were gonna go to the thalmor and attack. Even tho they barely win against 1/10th of the empire and the thalmor nearly wiping out the empire right before Skyrim
This isn't true in the slightest. The Thalmor don't want the war to end, they want neither side to win. It's why Elenwyn was at Helgen, she was trying to prolong the war. The Civil War only weakens and distracts both factions, allowing for easier fight for the Thalmor. It's not a 1/10 of the empire. It's not all of it granted, but they did send a few legions and their best general to fight. The Empire at this point isn't even an empire either. It consists of Cyrodil and High rock. That's it. And a unified Skyrim is scarier and more powerful than you think. Hammerfell pushed the Aldmeri Dominion out, by sea non the less. This shows that is actually possible for one county to beat them. On top of that Skyrim is impossible to get to for the Thalmor on a victory, as High rock will also likely secede and the three human countries will probably end up allies. A victory for the Stormcloaks or the Empire is disastrous for the Thalmor.
@@--Cat-- I feel like some kingdoms of high rock would try to become independent, some would side with the empire and maybe some would even side with the Dominion. High Rock if the Stormcloaks win will likely be thrown into chaos since they constantly in-fight even at the best of times. It would still be really cool to see a Tamriel plunged into that much chaos once the empire inevitably falls.
@@doronaznible7298 see I can see the infighting but they are 100% going to become allies with Skyrim and hammerfell. You got to realize where High Rock sits geologically it has hammer fell to the south and Skyrim to the east there is nothing else. Being enemies of both those countries basically is signing a death warrant. And if High Rock sides with the Dominion it is one hundred percent a sign for Hammerfell and Skyrim to destroy them. Siding with the empire is just not smart at that point as they have very little power anymore. Siding with either also doesn't mean anything as High Rock can't get *any* aid in either situation. The smartest move would be to secede and ally with it's neighbors, possible even offering the orcs a permanent Orsinium to get them as allies as well.
@@--Cat-- Well, if you listen in on Ulfric and Galmar in Windhelm, they talk about High Rock staying out of the conflict and Galmar suggests punishing them for abstaining. Stormcloak rule doesn't sound very appealing to non-Nords countries, mostly because the Nords tend to be assholes to the other races.
7:33 Looks like you're needed DragonBorn
6:29
"...AS MAAAAAAAAAN"
Heimskr is apparently still going.
0:48 Considering how the LDB is likely a Shezarrine alongside Tiber Septim, this could be literally correct since you take the city with the Stormcloaks.
Balgruff should have fought to the death then dying. The name was wearing steel plated armor and had like 6 guards with him, plus a houscarl with crazy magical powers and was facing 3 men, the Dragonborn, Galmar and ralof then a few stormclocks who are more farmers than warriors.
She doesn't use magic
@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 She literally started my fight with her using lighting bolt, what are you on? XD
@@Deathkri That's just Dutch Patriot in his alt account
And with that You can clearly see the true face of balgruff. A coward and a man who doesn't have the nerves to make seriuos decisions.
Man you really should've been able to convince balgruff, he was genuinely a good jarl and he allowed talos worship
This was interesting! I’ve never played on the racist side, but it’s neat to see what changes are made in the dialogue!
Holy shit, Farengar is fucking _COLD._ He doesn't even let you ask about what he has to sell, the game just _ends the conversation_
What a bad bitch.
Damn for avenicci to risk being out of business if not for her husband just for her race Is terrible, then again they have gray mane in the city
ah, yes, because Reyvn Sadri, Aval Atheron, Niranye, Ulundil, Keerava, Brand-Shei, Madesi, Marise Aravel, Wylandriah and Madena have all been fired/ been forced to close their shops due to Stormcloak rule. Oh, wait...
@@bierwolf8360 You mean in Riften, one of the most corrupt cities in Skyrim, whose non-Nord shopkeeps live off every dime because the war is destroying their supply chain?
Or did you mean in Windhelm, where the majority of the non-Nords are spat on and forced to live in the city's slums or outside it's walls, making less than nothing?
@@joshuagross3151 neither changed the fact they're still very in business - and also make business with Nords. Tova talking to Aval, guards pointing you towards Sadri's, etc. And almost everyone in Riften's living a hard life. Anyway, you're a dirty communist
@@bierwolf8360 Living off every dime means they're in the same boat as Avenicci.
Also, you're an idiot.
@@bierwolf8360 I don't think you have the slightest understanding of what a communist is.
7:35 a dragon flies by lol.
Hope they remember I was a High Elf in the songs.XD.
"We are but maggots" sums Stormcloaks pretty well
sounds like a cope, Piss Elf lover.
I just kind of leave the war alone. I like the Jarls on both sides more than their replacements. I especially don't like Maven or the Silverblood brothers.
Yeah. Especially because of threats that she’s gonna put you in Jail for being a thieves guild member. Where then, you have to use the raise zombie spell tome on her for if you REALLY don’t like her want to make a difference in The Rift as well on your own time that’s not a quest nor a miscellaneous objective AT ALL instead of The Reach only about letting Madanach escape or killing him.
Nazeem got fucking roasted lol
Listening to this is like being in southern England immediately post-brexit
Oh, man. The Nord soldiers are gonna beat Heimskr (and maybe Farengar) to a pulp. Seems like something a couple of them would do.
I mean, Farengar is kind of a know-it-all but he's a decent enough dude and doesn't really bother anybody.
Heimskr... is just annoying, and he's the main reason I choose not to live in Whiterun (on top of Breezehome just being miserably small). Only problem is he's a total Talos zealot, and the Stormcloaks are kinda all about that noise. Oh well... You can always give them a little encouragement by giving Heimskr a certain Illusion-induced push when nobody's watching.
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
Based and Stormcloak Pilled
Never liked the Stormcloaks, and knowing what they to do Balrgruf, I will fight for the Empire every time.
I bet the Nords would like the Empire if Titus Mede II would change his surname a little.
...bRRoken tabl'e... oh, my ears. And I though my accent is ugly.
lmfao sofia at the end
Sophia is my favorite companion lmao
The ending tho XD
4:12 A true merchant, has a bright prospect of being a true capitalist. Does not care about war, because in war he can make 💸💰.
Belethor doesn't care who's in charge, he just wants to get P A I D.
Capitalism is a dirty business.
@@ИмяФамилия-щ4й5й capitalism is what bring that phone or computer where you type that stupid comment.
Soviet Union gave phone and computer to the working class amongst many other cool things. Capitalism is dirty lies.
Hulda lookin' THICC
First time I went to Windhelm I instantly knew who to side with. And now after seeing this (especially Addriana's dialogue), I'm glad that the one and only time I completed the civil war was at the head of a dragon army knocking on Ulfric's bedroom. Maybe I'll do the civil war again and bring an army of peasants this time.
Wtf? Hulda is outside the tavern? How? What kind of sorcery is this?!
You save us all. We will sing of you forever!... Now, go bother somebody else. Typical skyrim shitty dialogue
6:10 why i hate farengar
I’m sorry but this just solidifies my stance of being against the rebellion. Jesus Christ, you guys would not survive the Thalmor invasion.
First of all would barely be a thalmor invasion. The thalmor are weaked by the great war and tell me, how they Will managed to move troops troughout the borders of skyrim? When they finally managed to pass the borders, the nords will absolutely have already ambush them or Made some tactic to anhiliated them.
Second, the nords forces united are much stronger that the destroyed legions of the empire. Look what only a garrison of Nords did to the majority of the thalmor army in red ring, what do you think that a true army of Nords and with military plans to defend their land would do? The Empire is no better than all the nords united.
Damn Eurlond, his not a honest man at all. Just wanted his brother to be a Jarl. I'm starting to doubt the companion honour
Eorland isn't a Companion.
But yeah, the Companions don't really have any "honour" to speak of. They're basically just mercenaries.
well the only thing Eorlund was maybe being a little dishonest about was "comes the end of the day, Stormcloaks and Imperials ain't that much different, BOTH sides want to tell you how to live your life" part, since the imperials and Stormcloaks ARE kinda different in how they go about things. Eorlund was honestly just telling us his OPINION and how HE FEELS about it, he's not really a political expert on the civil war i guess, but that's ok he doesn't need to be.
I checked the description mod list. Which one is making the Stormcloaks In Whiterun where that whiterun armor?
Amen, PRAISE TALOS
good video#
7:35 anyone else see that?
Even though I usually side with the Stormcloaks because the empire executes innocents I actually haven't heard alot of this dialogue so great video
Buddy, Ulfric’s little uprising is nothing more than a puppet rebellion orchestrated by the Thalmor in order to weaken and distract the Imperial army.
And the Empire doesn't execute innocents, it's the Thalmor.
The question you should be asking is ¿Who brought the Thalmor to Skyrim? Yeah, right, Ulfric did.
@@alexestrada2764 empire doesnt execute innocents? So, you must've forgotten the literal intro to skyrim. "He's not on the list". "Forget the list, he goes to the block."
@@Peaserist Lol, again, Blame Ulfric and his rebellion, because of them your character gets almost executed.
And you weren't exactly innocent, crossing a border illegally, which probably doesn't deserve a death sentence but, again, thank Ulfric.
@@alexestrada2764 doesn't shirk responsibility, "forget the damn list" came out of one person's mouth
Wait…how are the guards wearing Whiterun uniforms? I thought they all wear Stormcloak garb
I’m pretty sure that’s the case for every hold except whiterun. I remember in my imperial play through their uniforms didn’t change, but they did in cities like wind helm and riften.
@2:00 Living through that nightmare right now in the US.
Comment I was looking for
@Jacob Wilson haha naw more like let's go "emperor" titus mede
Eurlond was the only one speaking sense.
i definitely agree with you that Eurlond made sense, but IMHO, i think the rest of the pro-Stormcloak's there in Whiterun had valid points too, or at least honest and heartfelt opinions (which i definitely understand them as well).
I stand with the empire. My only regret is maven black briar becoming jarl. But since all gold storyline are Canon (if the player doesn't do it, canonical somone else did) that means the thieves guild basically takes over and corrupts skyrim so what does it matter.
Stormcloacks.
Better for ulfric to be in charge then the empire witch talos himslef in the form of wolf in morrowind says the empires time is done. Is the only reason i side with them as a khajiit
That simply means he was implying the Empire II Mede boogaloo was right around the corner
Nice video but why is this in my recommended I haven't played Skyrim in like 2 or 3 years
Might be UA-cam regurgitating videos due to the new Skyrim announcement, even moreso if you watched a video about it
it’s just meant to be
Todd's will indeed
Ok 2 to 3 years of not playing Skyrim is Heresy, by Ysmir do it again!
I usually play as Altmer or Bosmer and never get involved in the war, as i feel its not my place. But Ulfric has the right of it.
Ulfric does very much not have the right of it
@Jacob Wilson No it's not, traditional Nords worship Kyne not Talos. Talos would've been seen in the same light as ysgrammor had he not ascended to godhood
As an Imperial loyalist, I'm afraid I'll have to leave a dislike. When the Aldmeri Dominion take advantage of a weakened post-war Skyrim, y'all wish you'd still have the Empire's protection.
Yeah sure the Thalmor could easily come to war against Skyrim while traveling through hammerfel!!!! redguards hate then. Well Cyrodil?? Through the mountains full of trolls, spiders and goblins? Through Morrowind? It's a wastleland..they'll die without food. The Stormcloaks might be asses but THEY are right!!!! If the Thalmor comes through Cyrodil, they can't navigate the snowy mountains like the Nords do...Nords know their mountains. And chances of empire turning their back on Thalmor are high when they're moving through Cyrodil.
@@jayeezus They aren't right, Ulfric did all this for personal gain; using the guise of Nord Freedoms. Majority of the Nords are racist and ignorant. They don't even know their own history as magic users. The only issue with the Imperials is, Talos is banned. That they can be prosecuted. Even then, that was Ulfric's fault too; it was even said in the game. This forced Elisif to do as the Thalmor said. There are videos, made by those knowing the lore, that prove Balgruuf and Tullius are the only smart and rational leaders in the game
@@Shalyn-ln9tu Balgruuf is no rational ruler. Dude left his kids and got exiled lolll I would've died protecting my hold. And no Ulfric doesn't have any need for power. He did it for vengeance, his father died in a prison. He got betrayed by markarth. NOT all Nords are racist. Literally every race is racist lol. The Dunmer the worst. Nords gave Dunmer home but they didn't do shit to earn it. Didn't join the cause, were imperial spies. It's just Roliff who gives Nords a bad name. And yeah the magic stuffs are dumb...so are all the Tamriellic people?
@@jayeezus you are either really dumb, or trolling. Literal experts even said Ulfric is the worst. The game even proved it. This stuff isn't serious, but it just parallels real world politics and how stupid people are to blindly follow a leader without looking at all the facts. "Every race is racist", Nords living in Windhelm are the most racist in the entire game. The Dunmer are freaking refugees, can't get them to do anything if they are being threatened on a daily basis and calling them spies. Now his father, he attacked a city. The people who took over Markarth is at fault, forcing the Forsworn to leave their rightful home
@@jayeezus Well the fact that the Thalmor secretly helps the stormcloacks is all the answer you need.
But I still want to point out your mistakes. If the Thalmor captures Cyrodiil they don't need to climb mountains or take any treacherous path. They just enter Skyrim through Falkreath border. And I doubt Nords alone can defend that border for long and resist the shear power of Aldmeri Dominion. After they enter through falkreath, they backdoor whiterun (the central city) and then Skyrim is as good as an elf country.
Stormcloacks better hope the empire isn't defeated in the second great war, because if they do, neither nords nor redgaurds stand much of a chance.