Whats funny about this story is that you don’t have to beat the magister with magic, which means a strong enough barbarian could beat the magister, and become the new head magic authority in the world
“Yeah, he doesn’t know a lick of theory but he’s the best magister we ever had. Any time someone even thinks about becoming a lich he gives them a swirly and calls them a nerd.”
You make a good point, also if the magister dies in childbirth then would the newborn be the head magic authority in the world? Or what if the magister is killed by an animal or monster? You could have Gobbo the goblin magister who's trying his hardest to learn magic from scratch and live up to the roll but he's got a long way to go before getting good at it (actually sounds like a fun player character idea as goblin wild magic sorcerer lol)
@@within_the_sky2356 Theres a spell called Awaken that gives an otherwise non-intelligent creature/plant an INT of 10, and gains a spoken language. But theres a loophole in that the Spell specifies a duration of "Instantaneous", but its secondary effect says the target is charmed for 30 days (or from hostile actions), and then the creature chooses if it wants to remain friendly to you. This heavily implies the creature remains intelligent, permanently. Its been hypothesized that, if somehow motivated, that creature could go on to seek out other forms of enhancement. And as the spell description implies, it might not like you in the end. So I've long harbored this scenario where a Wizard uses Awaken on an Animal, somehow mistreats or neglects it (possibly on accident) and that Animal harbors a grudge. Wanting revenge, and smart enough to know its out classed, it starts looking for ways to empower itself and increase its intelligence further. At some point it gains an extended lifespan or immortality, buying time to gain enough power or influence to get its revenge. At some point it becomes a Lich, and uses it resources to start a secret empire. Generations later, the descendants of the Wizard hunt down the Lich to break a curse on their blood line; only to discover the Lich is a hyper intelligent field mouse, with Arcane powers and a very sour disposition. Bear is also commonly favored animal, due to the Sir Bearington stories. An alternative version is a Tree, who have naturally long life spans, who makes a pact to become a Warlock. And hounds the Adventurers who created it whenever they step into the Wilderness. To add to the pile, there was a short suggesting a twist for Liches, where they could know spells from previous editions of DnD, because they are potentially ancient enough to have been around when that version of a spell existed. Leading to the possibility of a Lich that knows lvl 10-12 spells, and figured out a way to cast them, despite the restrictions enforced on a divine level.
I have the idea of a Witchhunter becoming the magister and ironically doing a good job because while he hates magic, he knows a lot about spells and how to handle dangerous magic. Thanks to his mage hunting knowledge and skills, its hard to take the position from him.
Prefacing this with the fact yes, this is DnD canon: Old Gnawbones, the Ancient Green Dragon of whom the town of Silverymoon countered her scrying by creating an illussionary court drama for her to watch to both mislead her and keep her entertained. I'll leave the rest of her many, many shenanigans for you to get blindsided by in your research. :)
@@side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179 She also seems to have a humanoid fetish considering she has her male servants rub oil on her scales while they are naked, has a half ettin child and dreams about male humanoids being crazy of her if she were to become a noble/queen in water deep disguised as a human lol
You know whats funny about that? they don't mention it in lore but you technically can still cast 10th level magic. First you have to know a 10th level spell, which is hard since that knowledge is hidden, then no matter what the first time you cast it it will fail and use up every resource you out in, but if you try and cast it from that point onward it will work as normal.
Um no. Only in FR. Beyond the fact I despise it, there are plenty of gods of magic in other settings that would beat out her in power and Dark Sun also has 10 level spells for epic level defilers (Dragon kings) and preservers (avangions) FR is not the sum total of D&D
@@chicksandwich It's in a video somewhere on one of the dnd channels, and honestly I don't feel like looking it up since it's been maybe a year or two since I saw it and I wouldn't even really know where to start, it might have been a video MrRhexx did since he has a couple on 10th level magic, but i'm not going to watch them and see if one of those was it.
Mystra, going around after this: Alright you little hacks! remember a darn undetectable charm next time! I am not waking up at 3am again to switch the title 14 times
I don't think a nondetection charm existed in 2nd edition dnd only the spell. so the wizard would have to constantly cast it several times every day which could also make him stand out. @@PerfectKirby
I like to imagine that, somewhere, there was a gathering of wiazards just chilling and hanging out, when all of a sudden they all got the "a new magister has been chosen" feeling 14 times within the span of, like, 30 minutes, and were all *profoundly* confused
Mystra: "Okay that was a good night let's see how my Magister is-" Magister #5 for the day: "YOU'LL TAKE THIS POWER FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!" *Gets melted by a clone.* Mystra: "Okay. Maybe Helm was right and I should avoid drinking and casting magic."
I love me mystra lore. Especially her birth myth, which also coincides when the rules of magic changed dramatically and the only 12th level spell ever cast :D
Ah yes, Karsus's Folly. Pro tip: Maybe don't try possessing the god who's constant concentration is the only reason your entire country is intact and not actively falling out of the sky?
@@chaosreigner869 Yes, I know there's some magic eating abberations ruining the world. Next time ask the goddess of magic for a good spell, since obviously she won't want them eating all magic. Or a refferal to a good martial god or something.
Funny you should mention a rock becoming the new magister - in my campaign world, the way to become the God of Assassins is to kill the previous God of Assassins. One time the guy was killed in a landslide, and a pile of rocks technically became the new God of Assassins. Then a wandering barbarian cleared the road and he became the new GoA.
@@Dahaka-rd6tw the Dagger-Dealer walks this plane as a mortal given divine spark. The other gods exist as pure divinity in the Celestial Plane, safe from harm. The divine spark never dies, merely the vessel carrying it.
I do find it funny that Mystra's answer to keeping the "who is the most magical mage" contest fair. Is to give them innate magic resistance for a while. That while 2 out of 5 different mages got struck down by unspecified/an axe.
@@patrickbuckley7259 A better option would be to enact the rules of a fair duel. Like, you need to proclaim the duel, the person to accept it, to determine a place and time and to have witnesses.
@@starblaiz1986 What would it matter? I'm speaking here about a magically binding verbal contract between two wizards. If you modify the memory of the adversary to think he accepted it the duel would be considered invalid.
You know, there's always something cathartic about a supremely powerful wizard dying to something as mundane as getting hit in the head with something sufficiently hard/sharp.
My question is what would of happened if Turnock had died to to the spell tattoo. His killer was already dead. would there be no Magister? would a random one be pick? would the guy who next put on the pope hat get it? Would the magic explode with no person to go to? Things to wonder, or story beats to write for a campaign?
I think a new magister would get picked at random, with those who have been Wizards longer having a better chance then those that were regular appearances or what not.
Small point of clarification. There were two (or three if you count Mystryl) different Mystras. Original Mystra was Lawful Neutral, and ascended to her position after Mystryl, the previous goddess of magic, died in that incident that also led to Mystra's Ban as you mentioned. The second Mystra was a mage named Midnight who ascended during the Time of Troubles to replace her predecessor, after the previoous Mystra was slain by Helm for trying to disobey the rules of that whole shitshow by returning to her divine domain. This new Mystra was Neutral Good, not Lawful Neutral. Though considering how dirty she did my man Gale, I would just call her True Neutral.
That waa actually yet another cool story lol. Midnight/Mystra and Kelemvor actually tried to use their powers to fix the cosmology freshly after the ascension. Iirc Mystra granted spells only to good people for a time(or anyway, she chosed arbitrarily who get the spells and who do not). Their actions had a bunch of unintended consequences and they where put on a trial for "imperfection by mean of humanity". This caused among other things alignment shifts.
The atrial of Cyric the Mad was also the trial of Kelemvor and Mystra/Midnight. I think that was when her negligence in providing for the needs of evil magic users led to Shar being able to pull new worshipers over to herself because she created the shadow weave.
The is whole story could be summed up as “Local goddess changes the rules of her religion after “Wizard Shenanigans” leave 13 Magic Popes dead.” And that will never stop being funny to me.
@@lucarudloff687because the spell plague threw everything into chaos and changed the future of the forgotten realms forever, because it's an incredibly convoluted hilarious and fascinating story, that's why
@@emoryogglethorp8180 Thought it was because Karsus tried to possess Mystra and immediatelly losed control causing almost all of Netheril's flying cities/islands to violentally fall
I clicked this video without really reading the title and thought this was going to be about that time Kermit the Frog snuck into a Monster Manual. I think this is better. Can't wait to see more from this series!
To give people an idea of the kind of god Mystra is, that cr 50 dracolich? While he doesn't have her blessings her say, she does watch him with interest because of his experiments pertaining to a dragon's breath weapon. She will at no point make a move to stop him because his goals and experiments further the knowledge of magic, it doesn't matter that he's evil or a dracolich.
Oh, oh this is a GOOD series to start! Don't get me wrong, I love love LOVE my regularly scheduled monsters, but having some of the context around them, especially the absolutely absurd lore behind the worlds they exist in, or them themselves, is FANTASTIC! I really hope you get around to covering The Prison at some point with the help of our favourite ball of claws, eyes, hands and sadness. ^v^ Edit: The rock should become magister and an earth elemental, because that sounds REALLY funny. Also, you'd think these guys would, like... remember to make use of Clone and Demiplane and stuff to not die-die that easily, right? Like I'm assuming it's usually someone who's at that kind of level? Maybe???
I honestly expected the classical "the Archmage worded his commans poorly"-Story, resulting in the clones being commanded to kill "the Magister", not one specific person, meaning the one clone who killed the magister becoming new magister, being killed by anothe clone since they are tasked to kill hte magister, who then becomes... you get the idea. Which even could open an entirely new can of worms if the last clone still carries out that command by killing himself and suddenly there is no magister left :D Oh and if all magic users can "feel it" when there is a new magister... that even solidifies the whoole "weave = force" idea, sounds a lot like that might hav einspired the entire "I feel a disturbance in the force" thing^^ Regarding the last question, what if I caught a cold, sneezed at the magister who happens to be old and have bad immune system and then goes on to die from the effects of the cold? Do I become the magister? Or would some god of... illnesses or something become the new magister?
There was a short time when someone in the D&D multiverse could find strange artifacts which would summon beings from another universe. Especially another universe at the time supported by other TSR roleplaying games. Big example is a certain metal round shield with a red, white, and blue paint job which could summon superheroes from the Marvel Superhero RPG (but no stats are given).
There was also the Mansoon Wars, when Mansoon died (maybe) and 40+ of his clones woke up and started murdering each other. Only 3 clones remain in the Realms. One in Waterdeep, one rejoined the Zhentarim (who had killed him, leading into the Manshoon Wars) and one became a vampire. It's possible that others exist and have left the Realms. It's also speculated that the original Manshoon is still somewhere out there.
I'm not 100% familiar with the rules of challenging the magister but I can't get over how it sounds like the 12 clones things only works off a technicality. From how it was described it sounds like only one person can challenge the magister, you can't just like roll up with a group of 12 mages (or maybe even just a group of 12, I don't know if they have to be magic users) and you all just jump them. But due to all clones getting the power part I guess if you clone yourself they all still count as one person. I was hoping they'd all have to wait in line and fight him one at a time but what actually happened is funnier in a sense.
Wow that must of been one hell of a night... Imagine being a patron at that inn witnessing the fight start, that must of just been utter chaos. Wonder if the Inn keeper survived to rebuild the place or not.. hmm somehow doubt it. Though sounds like this is going to be an interesting series. Looking forward to the next one.
I imagine Mystra just looking at all the bullshit like this wizards do and just being so stressed out cause she's essentially the Adam Silver of the weave and knows she's gonna have to rewrite the rules to fix this shit
For context on lvl 10-12 spells: Netheril is the standard ancient superpowerful magic empire and was at war with magic eating worms. In a bid to kill them all forever, the king came up with a spell called Mantle that lets a wizard temporarily take a target gods divinity. He took Mystryls divinity but couldnt handle supplying all spells and magical effects to every magic user on the planet, and the entire Weave basically caught fire. Mystryl had no ability to actually control her power anymore, but she was physically still the embodiment of the Weave so she killed herself to effectively turn off magic for a bit. Since the Netherese lived on flying islands they all died, and the current Mystra came to power, banning 10th and up level spells to ensure nothing like this happened again.
There’s probably some sort of succession tradition that is undergone if the Magister is not killed or otherwise defeated by a lucky archmage. If I’m remembering right, the tenure of the first Magister, Azuth, ended when he was deified and not defeated in a magic duel.
I feel like turning the role of wizard pope into a Battle Royale kinda defeat the idea of furthering magic. Like wouldn't it be better for Wizards to share their research in order to prompt advancement rather that turn them into paranoid lunatics that fear for their life/title at all time?
A new series?! About wacky D&D Lore?! WOOOOO! Can't wait for more! I'm sure you've got plenty more ideas, but here are some fun moments I can remember -Orcs getting summoned to Toril and killing gods -The Spawn Wars(dwarves spawning infinite clones to fight each other) -Themberchaud the obese wyrmsmith -The time a guy one punch maned a tarrasque(mrrhexx mentions it in his human timeline video)
Bro you the man! I'm glad you branched out to new stuff I will be here to support whatever you put out. Hope everything goes awesome for you and yours and thanks again for your amazing content.
10:07 - editing mistake? "Turnoch came to resent his master, and I mean, I feel like it's kind of obvious why. He did so with one decisive blow..." I feel like there was supposed to be another sentence between this saying he decided to kill him or something.
Oh man, I'm so excited to see you branching out of just monsters and exploring the greater history of D&D! If you decide to start covering meta-subjects like the mechanics of each system, it'd be great to see some of the infamous rules-bending community creations like the Jumplomancer, Peasant Rail Gun, or Locate City Bomb
GIVE US THE BLOODFORGE WARS NEXT Ie a weird semi-canon event where the people of the utter east used magical 3d printers to declare a series of wildly petty wars so massive that the winner ascended to godhood and the entire region exploded into demons!
I just got home from a fundraiser. I am using this to decompress. Your content provides a bit of respite from a long day. Thanks 🙏🏾 Dad (lol never said that before) May the odds ever be in your favor
2:20 Is that just 5E? Because im playing a 3.5 game... and its an Epic Level Campaign... and we have a Wizard who can cast Epic Level Spells... and my Artificer can make Epic Level and Artefact Level spell scrolls.
Halfling Kid: I love my new skipping stone. It's the best! *stone slips out of pocket* Magister: *Slips on lost skipping stone, fails and breaks neck* Mystra to Halfling: Well Kid, it looks like you're up. Good luck.
(Vaguely) reminds me of the king’s hunchback jester death from Arabian nights. How everyone kept passing off his body trying to be blamed for his death and the next person believing they killed him.
I took the spellplague that resulted from one of mystras deaths and put it in the exandria setting (with corellon in her place). I love shenanigans like this 😂
Love this type of video. I think lore on feuds between races or amongst singular races would be cool. I recently watched your video on the deep spawns which inspired me to make it the BBEG in my next campaign. A video over the spawn wars would be interesting!
Are you sure this kind of thing can only happen in D&D? Because The sith from Star wars before Darth bane implemented "the rule of two" could easily rival that magical BS! Also. Every wizard on/in the material plane: I felt a great disturbance in the weave, as a 14 wizards claim the title of magistrates. in 15 minutes!!!
MAAAN I WAS AFK. Listening to this. And then I came back at 9 minutes in. Saw your goofy visuals. And now I have to restart this. I have to see them. I NEEEEED IIIT
Wild guesses: all of the old castle greyhawk (so gonzo that theres no room for anything else on the list). Maybe Karssus's fall, the time of troubles, the city of the gods, meepos military service.
Big support. More of this. Really enjoyed it. I’m excited for a year from now. People are clearly gonna love this series and it’ll only be a matter of time before we get the 40min + videos 🎉
I feel it's only fitting that Dungeon Dad would sit us down and tell us what sounds like a bedtime story, just needs a handful of dad jokes and it's perfect. Looking forward to future episodes!
I think this would be a good series to talk about the absurdity that is Volo and his vast history over Faerun and how he's completely oblivious to 1. How weak he is, 2. How everything things to work out for him, 3. How old he is and 4. The vast importance Mystra has placed on him
The rock becomes a Rock Golem with magical capabilities beyond that of a normal Rock Golem. It also gets the hat, but it's also made of different types of rock. Marbel, slate, sandstone, and all the other types of rocks allow you to have a pretty expansive color palette.
Not technically dnd, but in golarion lore, there was a group of adventurers that found themselves in 1916 Soviet Russia and fought Rasputin. That'd be interesting to see illustrated in this way
I can't hear that song at the end without thinking of Summoning Salt. But I don't see anyone else mentioning it so I guess there's not much crossover between the audiences of DnD videos and video game speedrunning videos :P
6:33 "and what happens next" ... did one of them scream "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!" ... followed by decapitation? 😵 . . . PS, yes, that's a Highlander reference. ⚔
I've gotta be honest, hitting someone in the head with an axe during a surprise round doesn't really feel like it should count as winning a wizard duel. Or at the very least, certainly isnt in the dpirit of it
You should do one that features the Mordekainen and Elminster meeting at Ed Greenwood (Creator of the setting) house, meaning our world, for chips and soda.
Turns out Wizards and Klingon succession rules don’t mix, who’d a thunk it. I also find it interesting how “fuck you, got mine,” is a philosophy you see a LOT in D&D wizards. It deviates entirely from the LODR idea of wizards, but it’s also kinda believable given how cutthroat a lot of scientific fields in our world are. Seriously, Paleontology is a fucking battle Royal of ideas, it’s harsh as hell.
Did I see some Modron March in the intro? Best adventure anthology ever. And even though I really don't like [the secret bad dude], that plan was ingenious.
Love the new intro and new series, I know it might be heretical for a DnD channel but I would love if you also covered some pathfinder stuff in the legend lore series, they also have a lot of cool stuff!
Thanks for watching everyone! Let me know what tales from the many worlds of D&D I should talk about next!
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this story is absolutely amazing
The first ever DND stories ever made would be cool 😮
What's funny is that this story sounds like the kind of shenanigans that would occur in an all-wizard DnD campaign.
"So there's this guy in the inn-"
"FIREBALL" "FIREBALL" "FIREBALL"
'This was a guy in this inn."
Yeh
Whats funny about this story is that you don’t have to beat the magister with magic, which means a strong enough barbarian could beat the magister, and become the new head magic authority in the world
Feels like something out of Skyrim
“Yeah, he doesn’t know a lick of theory but he’s the best magister we ever had. Any time someone even thinks about becoming a lich he gives them a swirly and calls them a nerd.”
You make a good point, also if the magister dies in childbirth then would the newborn be the head magic authority in the world? Or what if the magister is killed by an animal or monster? You could have Gobbo the goblin magister who's trying his hardest to learn magic from scratch and live up to the roll but he's got a long way to go before getting good at it (actually sounds like a fun player character idea as goblin wild magic sorcerer lol)
@@within_the_sky2356 Theres a spell called Awaken that gives an otherwise non-intelligent creature/plant an INT of 10, and gains a spoken language. But theres a loophole in that the Spell specifies a duration of "Instantaneous", but its secondary effect says the target is charmed for 30 days (or from hostile actions), and then the creature chooses if it wants to remain friendly to you. This heavily implies the creature remains intelligent, permanently.
Its been hypothesized that, if somehow motivated, that creature could go on to seek out other forms of enhancement. And as the spell description implies, it might not like you in the end. So I've long harbored this scenario where a Wizard uses Awaken on an Animal, somehow mistreats or neglects it (possibly on accident) and that Animal harbors a grudge. Wanting revenge, and smart enough to know its out classed, it starts looking for ways to empower itself and increase its intelligence further. At some point it gains an extended lifespan or immortality, buying time to gain enough power or influence to get its revenge. At some point it becomes a Lich, and uses it resources to start a secret empire. Generations later, the descendants of the Wizard hunt down the Lich to break a curse on their blood line; only to discover the Lich is a hyper intelligent field mouse, with Arcane powers and a very sour disposition. Bear is also commonly favored animal, due to the Sir Bearington stories.
An alternative version is a Tree, who have naturally long life spans, who makes a pact to become a Warlock. And hounds the Adventurers who created it whenever they step into the Wilderness.
To add to the pile, there was a short suggesting a twist for Liches, where they could know spells from previous editions of DnD, because they are potentially ancient enough to have been around when that version of a spell existed. Leading to the possibility of a Lich that knows lvl 10-12 spells, and figured out a way to cast them, despite the restrictions enforced on a divine level.
I have the idea of a Witchhunter becoming the magister and ironically doing a good job because while he hates magic, he knows a lot about spells and how to handle dangerous magic. Thanks to his mage hunting knowledge and skills, its hard to take the position from him.
Prefacing this with the fact yes, this is DnD canon:
Old Gnawbones, the Ancient Green Dragon of whom the town of Silverymoon countered her scrying by creating an illussionary court drama for her to watch to both mislead her and keep her entertained.
I'll leave the rest of her many, many shenanigans for you to get blindsided by in your research. :)
Never thought I'd see the day when soap operas would win the battle
@@mckayleepugmire9947 Look Old Gnawbones up, she makes Beholder conspiracies they're so paranoid about look not just plausible, but *tame*.
@@side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179 She also seems to have a humanoid fetish considering she has her male servants rub oil on her scales while they are naked, has a half ettin child and dreams about male humanoids being crazy of her if she were to become a noble/queen in water deep disguised as a human lol
You forgot about the shirtless men in fake shackles that she hires to oil her
We may love Dungeons & Dragons, but Old Gnawbones only loves Law & Order!
It will never not be funny that mystra canonically nerfed magic in universe
You know whats funny about that? they don't mention it in lore but you technically can still cast 10th level magic.
First you have to know a 10th level spell, which is hard since that knowledge is hidden, then no matter what the first time you cast it it will fail and use up every resource you out in, but if you try and cast it from that point onward it will work as normal.
@@Nyghtkingsource?
one guy tries to cast a 12 lvl spell and does the B I G oopsie and now magic is nerfed to hell
Um no. Only in FR.
Beyond the fact I despise it, there are plenty of gods of magic in other settings that would beat out her in power and Dark Sun also has 10 level spells for epic level defilers (Dragon kings) and preservers (avangions)
FR is not the sum total of D&D
@@chicksandwich It's in a video somewhere on one of the dnd channels, and honestly I don't feel like looking it up since it's been maybe a year or two since I saw it and I wouldn't even really know where to start, it might have been a video MrRhexx did since he has a couple on 10th level magic, but i'm not going to watch them and see if one of those was it.
How were none of these paranoid wizards undetectable? That just seems like a basic precaution.
Right? My rogue character has a nondetection charm for that reason lol
Mystra, going around after this: Alright you little hacks! remember a darn undetectable charm next time! I am not waking up at 3am again to switch the title 14 times
They might be for a time limit
Nystul's Magic Aura
I don't think a nondetection charm existed in 2nd edition dnd only the spell. so the wizard would have to constantly cast it several times every day which could also make him stand out. @@PerfectKirby
I like to imagine that, somewhere, there was a gathering of wiazards just chilling and hanging out, when all of a sudden they all got the "a new magister has been chosen" feeling 14 times within the span of, like, 30 minutes, and were all *profoundly* confused
Mystra: "Okay that was a good night let's see how my Magister is-"
Magister #5 for the day: "YOU'LL TAKE THIS POWER FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!" *Gets melted by a clone.*
Mystra: "Okay. Maybe Helm was right and I should avoid drinking and casting magic."
...You know if this was Mystra's best idea on how to pick her pope then maybe Helm was on to something when he killed her.
Mystra is the kind of idiot that can only come from higher education.
I love me mystra lore. Especially her birth myth, which also coincides when the rules of magic changed dramatically and the only 12th level spell ever cast :D
Ah yes, Karsus's Folly.
Pro tip: Maybe don't try possessing the god who's constant concentration is the only reason your entire country is intact and not actively falling out of the sky?
@@chaosreigner869 Yes, I know there's some magic eating abberations ruining the world. Next time ask the goddess of magic for a good spell, since obviously she won't want them eating all magic. Or a refferal to a good martial god or something.
Funny you should mention a rock becoming the new magister - in my campaign world, the way to become the God of Assassins is to kill the previous God of Assassins. One time the guy was killed in a landslide, and a pile of rocks technically became the new God of Assassins. Then a wandering barbarian cleared the road and he became the new GoA.
if just rock was enoguth to kill him, I guess being a god means jack shit in your wolrd
@@Dahaka-rd6tw the Dagger-Dealer walks this plane as a mortal given divine spark. The other gods exist as pure divinity in the Celestial Plane, safe from harm. The divine spark never dies, merely the vessel carrying it.
I do find it funny that Mystra's answer to keeping the "who is the most magical mage" contest fair. Is to give them innate magic resistance for a while.
That while 2 out of 5 different mages got struck down by unspecified/an axe.
Well, it was less about fairness and more about trying to keep the title from passing into too many hands too quickly, but still your right.
@@patrickbuckley7259 A better option would be to enact the rules of a fair duel. Like, you need to proclaim the duel, the person to accept it, to determine a place and time and to have witnesses.
And that's how you create a backstory for a Barbzard 😅
"I cast Fist! Nono, I actually mean that literally this time, not the meme!" 😅
@@catalin2766Modify Memory: *exists* 😮😅
@@starblaiz1986 What would it matter? I'm speaking here about a magically binding verbal contract between two wizards.
If you modify the memory of the adversary to think he accepted it the duel would be considered invalid.
You know, there's always something cathartic about a supremely powerful wizard dying to something as mundane as getting hit in the head with something sufficiently hard/sharp.
My question is what would of happened if Turnock had died to to the spell tattoo. His killer was already dead. would there be no Magister? would a random one be pick? would the guy who next put on the pope hat get it? Would the magic explode with no person to go to? Things to wonder, or story beats to write for a campaign?
I think a new magister would get picked at random, with those who have been Wizards longer having a better chance then those that were regular appearances or what not.
Small point of clarification. There were two (or three if you count Mystryl) different Mystras. Original Mystra was Lawful Neutral, and ascended to her position after Mystryl, the previous goddess of magic, died in that incident that also led to Mystra's Ban as you mentioned.
The second Mystra was a mage named Midnight who ascended during the Time of Troubles to replace her predecessor, after the previoous Mystra was slain by Helm for trying to disobey the rules of that whole shitshow by returning to her divine domain. This new Mystra was Neutral Good, not Lawful Neutral. Though considering how dirty she did my man Gale, I would just call her True Neutral.
That waa actually yet another cool story lol.
Midnight/Mystra and Kelemvor actually tried to use their powers to fix the cosmology freshly after the ascension. Iirc Mystra granted spells only to good people for a time(or anyway, she chosed arbitrarily who get the spells and who do not). Their actions had a bunch of unintended consequences and they where put on a trial for "imperfection by mean of humanity". This caused among other things alignment shifts.
The atrial of Cyric the Mad was also the trial of Kelemvor and Mystra/Midnight. I think that was when her negligence in providing for the needs of evil magic users led to Shar being able to pull new worshipers over to herself because she created the shadow weave.
is that kermit, the spellcasting thug?!
Wizards: No sense of right or wrong
nah, whats right is what gets them more magical power, whats wrong is anything that makes them weaker.
Blue and orange morality
The is whole story could be summed up as
“Local goddess changes the rules of her religion after “Wizard Shenanigans” leave 13 Magic Popes dead.”
And that will never stop being funny to me.
Dwayne the Rock Johnson is actually the rock that the Magistrate tripped over, Mystra awarded a rock sentience for killing the past Magistrate
Does that mean the rock is earth's current magister?
Accidentally poisioning yourself spawns a slime girl magister, terrifying
I like the thought that Manshoon definitely knew this happened in history and still thought making a baker's dozen of clones was a good idea
Can you please talk about WHY magic was capped at 9th level? The story is one of my favorite parts of dnd lore
Why?🤔
@@lucarudloff687because the spell plague threw everything into chaos and changed the future of the forgotten realms forever, because it's an incredibly convoluted hilarious and fascinating story, that's why
@@emoryogglethorp8180 Thought it was because Karsus tried to possess Mystra and immediatelly losed control causing almost all of Netheril's flying cities/islands to violentally fall
@@foisopracurtir6389Yeah, that was my understanding. He tried to become a god and fucked the weave up.
So 10th+ level magic went *poof*
@@foisopracurtir6389i thought it was that too, but the spellplague is very interesting too
Interested to see where this series goes! Id love to see you cover the lore on Psionics
That would involve talking about Dark Sun, which I'm always excited to hear about.
That clone trick is something that the players work on for weeks, just to instantly kill the BBEG.
I clicked this video without really reading the title and thought this was going to be about that time Kermit the Frog snuck into a Monster Manual.
I think this is better. Can't wait to see more from this series!
Could you please elaborate? That sounds funny lol
@@Stpovrreacting I wish there was something to elaborate on, I'm just so used to Monster of the Week I thought, somehow, Kermit was in one.
@@readingking1421 aww
Let's fucking go, Magic Mommy has some of the best lore and wildest events.
@@SvaroAsano HOLY SHIT DOES THIS MAKE ME MAGIC MOMMY?
I know it's you, Gale!
To give people an idea of the kind of god Mystra is, that cr 50 dracolich? While he doesn't have her blessings her say, she does watch him with interest because of his experiments pertaining to a dragon's breath weapon.
She will at no point make a move to stop him because his goals and experiments further the knowledge of magic, it doesn't matter that he's evil or a dracolich.
Also, the fact he can most likely cast a 10th-11th level spell is terrifying
Dungeon Dad doing lore is something I didn’t know I needed till now!
Maybe about that one dracolich trying to magical genesplice dragons, and somehow wants to have a kid... as a dracolich.
Oh, oh this is a GOOD series to start! Don't get me wrong, I love love LOVE my regularly scheduled monsters, but having some of the context around them, especially the absolutely absurd lore behind the worlds they exist in, or them themselves, is FANTASTIC!
I really hope you get around to covering The Prison at some point with the help of our favourite ball of claws, eyes, hands and sadness. ^v^
Edit: The rock should become magister and an earth elemental, because that sounds REALLY funny. Also, you'd think these guys would, like... remember to make use of Clone and Demiplane and stuff to not die-die that easily, right? Like I'm assuming it's usually someone who's at that kind of level? Maybe???
I honestly expected the classical "the Archmage worded his commans poorly"-Story, resulting in the clones being commanded to kill "the Magister", not one specific person, meaning the one clone who killed the magister becoming new magister, being killed by anothe clone since they are tasked to kill hte magister, who then becomes... you get the idea. Which even could open an entirely new can of worms if the last clone still carries out that command by killing himself and suddenly there is no magister left :D
Oh and if all magic users can "feel it" when there is a new magister... that even solidifies the whoole "weave = force" idea, sounds a lot like that might hav einspired the entire "I feel a disturbance in the force" thing^^
Regarding the last question, what if I caught a cold, sneezed at the magister who happens to be old and have bad immune system and then goes on to die from the effects of the cold? Do I become the magister? Or would some god of... illnesses or something become the new magister?
There was a short time when someone in the D&D multiverse could find strange artifacts which would summon beings from another universe. Especially another universe at the time supported by other TSR roleplaying games.
Big example is a certain metal round shield with a red, white, and blue paint job which could summon superheroes from the Marvel Superhero RPG (but no stats are given).
There was also the Mansoon Wars, when Mansoon died (maybe) and 40+ of his clones woke up and started murdering each other. Only 3 clones remain in the Realms. One in Waterdeep, one rejoined the Zhentarim (who had killed him, leading into the Manshoon Wars) and one became a vampire. It's possible that others exist and have left the Realms. It's also speculated that the original Manshoon is still somewhere out there.
at first I thought this was gonna be a 12 angry men situation but then it turned into a slapstick comedy of bumbling wizards murdering each other XD
I'm not 100% familiar with the rules of challenging the magister but I can't get over how it sounds like the 12 clones things only works off a technicality. From how it was described it sounds like only one person can challenge the magister, you can't just like roll up with a group of 12 mages (or maybe even just a group of 12, I don't know if they have to be magic users) and you all just jump them. But due to all clones getting the power part I guess if you clone yourself they all still count as one person. I was hoping they'd all have to wait in line and fight him one at a time but what actually happened is funnier in a sense.
Wow that must of been one hell of a night... Imagine being a patron at that inn witnessing the fight start, that must of just been utter chaos. Wonder if the Inn keeper survived to rebuild the place or not.. hmm somehow doubt it. Though sounds like this is going to be an interesting series. Looking forward to the next one.
I imagine Mystra just looking at all the bullshit like this wizards do and just being so stressed out cause she's essentially the Adam Silver of the weave and knows she's gonna have to rewrite the rules to fix this shit
For context on lvl 10-12 spells:
Netheril is the standard ancient superpowerful magic empire and was at war with magic eating worms. In a bid to kill them all forever, the king came up with a spell called Mantle that lets a wizard temporarily take a target gods divinity. He took Mystryls divinity but couldnt handle supplying all spells and magical effects to every magic user on the planet, and the entire Weave basically caught fire. Mystryl had no ability to actually control her power anymore, but she was physically still the embodiment of the Weave so she killed herself to effectively turn off magic for a bit.
Since the Netherese lived on flying islands they all died, and the current Mystra came to power, banning 10th and up level spells to ensure nothing like this happened again.
Dungeon Dad has gained a level in Dad, and now has the abilities to read me bedtime stories!
sick series idea, keep up the good work man
DnD lore gets so batshit crazy sometimes
Also what if that dude's magic tattoo killed him? Who would become Magister then?
Shhhh the gods in the realms aren't all that intelligent. Neither are the powerful wizards apparently.
@@MrBottlecapBill Phenomenal cosmic power... itty bitty brainspace.
@@mistformsquirrel their spells take up most of their brain
6:00 I spy, with my magic eye, a tiny wizard named Nigel!
There’s probably some sort of succession tradition that is undergone if the Magister is not killed or otherwise defeated by a lucky archmage. If I’m remembering right, the tenure of the first Magister, Azuth, ended when he was deified and not defeated in a magic duel.
I feel like turning the role of wizard pope into a Battle Royale kinda defeat the idea of furthering magic. Like wouldn't it be better for Wizards to share their research in order to prompt advancement rather that turn them into paranoid lunatics that fear for their life/title at all time?
A new series?! About wacky D&D Lore?! WOOOOO! Can't wait for more!
I'm sure you've got plenty more ideas, but here are some fun moments I can remember
-Orcs getting summoned to Toril and killing gods
-The Spawn Wars(dwarves spawning infinite clones to fight each other)
-Themberchaud the obese wyrmsmith
-The time a guy one punch maned a tarrasque(mrrhexx mentions it in his human timeline video)
Love seeing you branch out! This is great I just started a wizard in Exandria however I’m an avid lore hound for FR. Love it, THANK YOU!!!!
Bro you the man! I'm glad you branched out to new stuff I will be here to support whatever you put out. Hope everything goes awesome for you and yours and thanks again for your amazing content.
10:07 - editing mistake?
"Turnoch came to resent his master, and I mean, I feel like it's kind of obvious why. He did so with one decisive blow..." I feel like there was supposed to be another sentence between this saying he decided to kill him or something.
I like to imagine the wizards around the world going into panic with the title charging 14 times in 10 minutes
Imagine the president changing 14 times in 10 minutes because they can't stop dying
Oh man, I'm so excited to see you branching out of just monsters and exploring the greater history of D&D!
If you decide to start covering meta-subjects like the mechanics of each system, it'd be great to see some of the infamous rules-bending community creations like the Jumplomancer, Peasant Rail Gun, or Locate City Bomb
GIVE US THE BLOODFORGE WARS NEXT
Ie a weird semi-canon event where the people of the utter east used magical 3d printers to declare a series of wildly petty wars so massive that the winner ascended to godhood and the entire region exploded into demons!
I just got home from a fundraiser. I am using this to decompress. Your content provides a bit of respite from a long day.
Thanks 🙏🏾 Dad (lol never said that before)
May the odds ever be in your favor
2:20 Is that just 5E?
Because im playing a 3.5 game... and its an Epic Level Campaign... and we have a Wizard who can cast Epic Level Spells... and my Artificer can make Epic Level and Artefact Level spell scrolls.
Have caught one or two of your videos before, but subbed for this series, amazing idea and amazing video. Request story of the Head of Vecna!!
Seeing marmalade as one of the wizards at 6:00 was absolutely hilarious
Thats not marmalade hes nigel the tiny wizard
Halfling Kid: I love my new skipping stone. It's the best! *stone slips out of pocket*
Magister: *Slips on lost skipping stone, fails and breaks neck*
Mystra to Halfling: Well Kid, it looks like you're up. Good luck.
(Vaguely) reminds me of the king’s hunchback jester death from Arabian nights. How everyone kept passing off his body trying to be blamed for his death and the next person believing they killed him.
Just by the thumbnail, I can guess this will be an absolute acid trip. This is going to be awesome!
Gotta get me some of that Magester Juice™. Great stuff as always dude!
And that, kids, is why we call 14 a mage’s dozen.
I took the spellplague that resulted from one of mystras deaths and put it in the exandria setting (with corellon in her place). I love shenanigans like this 😂
Love this type of video. I think lore on feuds between races or amongst singular races would be cool. I recently watched your video on the deep spawns which inspired me to make it the BBEG in my next campaign. A video over the spawn wars would be interesting!
Are you sure this kind of thing can only happen in D&D? Because The sith from Star wars before Darth bane implemented "the rule of two" could easily rival that magical BS!
Also. Every wizard on/in the material plane: I felt a great disturbance in the weave, as a 14 wizards claim the title of magistrates. in 15 minutes!!!
This spawned a new basis for the first campaign I’m starting to write/run for my friends, thank you for the inspiration.
The editing is top notch; slick as hell!
Thanks for the content as always! I like this stuff.
MAAAN I WAS AFK. Listening to this. And then I came back at 9 minutes in. Saw your goofy visuals. And now I have to restart this. I have to see them. I NEEEEED IIIT
Wild guesses: all of the old castle greyhawk (so gonzo that theres no room for anything else on the list).
Maybe Karssus's fall, the time of troubles, the city of the gods, meepos military service.
That picture at the end is of Gamalon Idogyr. A merchant from Bral. Is he also called Salinger?
Kermit was not in this story and I'm genuinely disappointed.
5:00 - It always makes my heart leap whenever you use Dragon Quest music, especially one of my favorite tracks.
This is too good, I cannot wait to see what you cover next (here's hoping this show isn't short-lived and becomes as much a staple as MoTW)
Big support. More of this. Really enjoyed it. I’m excited for a year from now. People are clearly gonna love this series and it’ll only be a matter of time before we get the 40min + videos 🎉
This is like ascending to archmage of Skyrim because you've got the biggest axe
11:23 Sorry, this music triggered my World Record instincts. I'll try not to be Summoning Salty
I feel it's only fitting that Dungeon Dad would sit us down and tell us what sounds like a bedtime story, just needs a handful of dad jokes and it's perfect. Looking forward to future episodes!
I think this would be a good series to talk about the absurdity that is Volo and his vast history over Faerun and how he's completely oblivious to 1. How weak he is, 2. How everything things to work out for him, 3. How old he is and 4. The vast importance Mystra has placed on him
The rock becomes a Rock Golem with magical capabilities beyond that of a normal Rock Golem. It also gets the hat, but it's also made of different types of rock. Marbel, slate, sandstone, and all the other types of rocks allow you to have a pretty expansive color palette.
This is the lore that I love, pure wacky chaos created from the setting itself.
Not technically dnd, but in golarion lore, there was a group of adventurers that found themselves in 1916 Soviet Russia and fought Rasputin. That'd be interesting to see illustrated in this way
W-what??
I believe that's how baba yaga is a patron in golarion
@@justincampbell5987 ... huh. *I am going to have to do some investigating cause this sounds hilariously wild*
The editor you got is great.
For that tiny question at the end, the rock becomes a tiny golem under the jurisdiction of the magic god
I can't hear that song at the end without thinking of Summoning Salt. But I don't see anyone else mentioning it so I guess there's not much crossover between the audiences of DnD videos and video game speedrunning videos :P
Happy to see this channel grow
I want to hear about the 'Head of Vecna' and the party that fought a Gazebo / Davenport.
6:33 "and what happens next" ... did one of them scream "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!!" ... followed by decapitation? 😵
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PS, yes, that's a Highlander reference. ⚔
Heck yeah! I love how you present monsters and am looking forward to you presenting Lore in a same fashion!
Ok, the line "but that is a tale for another time" has totally got to be the sign off for every future Legend Lore, right? It's so perfect!
I've gotta be honest, hitting someone in the head with an axe during a surprise round doesn't really feel like it should count as winning a wizard duel.
Or at the very least, certainly isnt in the dpirit of it
11:30 but how does that solve the "axe to the head" solution, which turned out to be what ultimately worked best for the new magister? :D
You should do one that features the Mordekainen and Elminster meeting at Ed Greenwood (Creator of the setting) house, meaning our world, for chips and soda.
Turns out Wizards and Klingon succession rules don’t mix, who’d a thunk it.
I also find it interesting how “fuck you, got mine,” is a philosophy you see a LOT in D&D wizards. It deviates entirely from the LODR idea of wizards, but it’s also kinda believable given how cutthroat a lot of scientific fields in our world are.
Seriously, Paleontology is a fucking battle Royal of ideas, it’s harsh as hell.
6:10 oh no mamelade, they killed me.
I incorporate this stuff into my games AND listen to it while I’m being productive. Love your channels work. Good job, team
Did I see some Modron March in the intro?
Best adventure anthology ever. And even though I really don't like [the secret bad dude], that plan was ingenious.
What? A new Dungeon Dad series? My birthday isn't till June! Thank you
Aw this is so much fun! Really cool seeing you try out new things :D I'm all here for it!
Love the new intro and new series, I know it might be heretical for a DnD channel but I would love if you also covered some pathfinder stuff in the legend lore series, they also have a lot of cool stuff!
"In the competitive world of wizardry, the way to the top is via dead men's pointy shoes."
Y'know, I actually HAVE been hankering for a broader understanding of the D&D canon. This was great! Already looking forward to the next one!
There are so many spells and magic items that prevent scrying how tf did not one of those guys use one