The Difference Between a 7 Wood, Hybrid or Long Iron | TrottieGolf
Вставка
- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- 3 great clubs all with a different purpose.
In this weeks #tourtrucktuesday upload I explain the process to test & differentiate between the 7 wood, the hybrid club & the long iron.
Learn which level of PLYR & PLYR type suits each design.
Looking for a fitting with a TaylorMade certified expert, see below:
tmgolf.co/Trot...
Shop TaylorMade Products:
imp.i366014.ne...
Great vid Trottie, middle ground is where most should be I imagine. Also there’s a reason why most LPGA pro’s carry 2 hybrids & if we look at their swing speeds they’re far more likely to be equal to or faster than most amateurs so they’re likely a good bag set up to copy
I have always found it interesting people model their bags after PGA setups when LPGA swing speeds are MUCH more comparable to your average golfer.
Never thought about this before but I'll probably start watching LPGA now that you've mentioned that, Great point
Great video, Trottie! I think most amateur players just struggle to produce the clubhead speed to hit long irons well enough. Your clubhead speed with that 3 iron is roughly my driver speed and that and forgiveness is why I carry a 3 hybrid. Granted my 5i is 22° so extremely strong but the CG is designed to get the ball up much easier (Taylormade '21 M4s). By the way, I was super happy to find your personal channel today. Subscribed immediately, my friend!
What i love about his videos is that its all one take, no BS just genuine
Absolute truth.... I edit all my own vids so cutting & cropping & messing about in post isn't an option :0)..... I'm a golfer not am editor. The one take pressure is real :0) :0)
@@trottiegolf love your vids mate, you’re living the dream
Used to love my blade 2 and 3 irons back in the day. I’ve been using a 7 wood for a while now and it’s great for me from 185 to 205. A lot of the times I feel it’s a scoring club on par 3”s. I’ll attack almost any pin with this thing. Not to mention it’s a 2004 model. So it’s super compact and has a v shaped leading edge. Super versatile.
Which model?
I was the same. I think the problems with long irons now is modern lofts. The 7 wood is great off the tee, lies, and the ball flight. Also modern greens are much faster than in the old days, so the higher ball flight helps too.
Nobody on this earth should play a blade 2 iron, they don't even use them on tour anymore.
Love the eye opener on being steep! I've been told I'm steep and I tend to hit irons better! I sometimes get too much floaty spin on my hybrids and fairway wood! Cheer's
I have a spot in the bag I am trying to fill and stuck between a 7 wood and a hybrid, although in the past I tended to hook hybrids so I might be leaning towards a 7 wood. Great video, Trottie!
G425 hybrids in flat setting have been the cure for the hybrid hooks for me
Man a 7 wood with a regular flex is MONEY
Thanks for the info man! I love my 4 hybrid, high launch shaft to really rip at a ball and off the tee it is great. But when I do play into wind, that 3 iron is a sick low spin option off the tee to just roll a ball 200-250 out there. I didn't get the differences as much until I watched this video on launch & spin. Now I know why the 3 iron is the safe option on a windy day off the tee.
I am a higher handicapper and have found that a 7 wood ( 21 degree) is my best friend, if I am in the ruff it will dig the ball out and get some distance and in the fairway it picks the ball up so well. I also play a 9 wood ( 23 degree) , yes a 9 wood it is an amazing club. I do not do well with my lower degree irons. I do carry a hybrid ( 25 degree).
Not a fan of Taylormade products but your knowledge and explanation can benefit and be applied to any brand and any standard of golfer.. love the channel.. 👍👍
Thx Nigel, appreciate the comment
Absolutely the most comprehensive video explaining the differences in these 3 clubs and why and who should use them! Outstanding!!!
You are a distinctive voice in golf UA-cam. I love your sincere insight and presentation. It’s only a matter of time before the cavalry comes for this channel.
I have a brand new Sim2 7w and Blue Velocore shaft to put in it. Look forward to playing with it. Usually it is pretty calm with no more than 10mph winds here.
Never considered a 7 wood, always used a hybrid. Was playing around one day and picked one up, tried it out - just curious, and has been in the bag ever since. The hybrid was ok but not great. Then I looked at amateur stats on approach shots using a hybrid vs a 7 and was stunned. The 7 is so much more forging and almost as flexible. On super windy days, I'll put the hybrid in the bag as the 7 flies very high. This club has probably saved me 2 shots a round. My favorite club.
Good video, but you never mentioned with Hybrid you were comparing. You used a 3i, a 7W and which hybrid?? The 7H has 10 more degrees of left than the 7W... Were you using a 5H?
Love the content, as always, please keep it up. The intro’s audio tho had my ears bleeding at 10pm in bed
So much good info in this video
👊
Now I play a 5 hybrid and 7 wood - both ping G410s. Much better height and consistency instead of my old 3&4 iron
I’m a +4 and recently switched to a 7wood after nearly 2 decades of frustration with hybrids. Should’ve done it years ago. It has a ventus red 9tx. I can hit it high, low, smooth a 215 carry or smash a 240 carry. I absolutely love it.
I'm back testing hybrids. Just played a course out Midwest area and needed more height coming into greens etc
@@trottiegolf I was a blade 2i-PW player for years. Had zero issues hitting a 2 iron. Decided to start messing with hybrids and it’s been a fight ever since. If it doesn’t go left then it doesn’t spin enough or something else. Just never found one that worked. The PXG 0317 gen 6 hybrid doesn’t go left but is all knuckle balls. I hit a tour issue TM 4 hybrid that was really good, it was bent flat amoung other things, but I don’t have access to that kind of stuff lol. I’m a single dad of 4 so I have to find stuff that works through experimentation. I can’t afford custom built clubs.
@@TheMuffs2004 doing a mega job being that good of a player with so much going on. Love that. Yea I was a 2-PW guy back in the day, I'm now 3-PW but need to go 4-PW and add a hybrid I think. Actually looking at a mini driver or a stronger 3 wood this week. Need to fix that area and give myself some options.
@@trottiegolf I’m fortunate. My swing is pretty simple and if I have to take a long break it really only takes me 3-4 rounds to get back into things. I also have a big back yard I practice wedges in all the time. I’ve been thinking about a mini as well in 13.5. My current setup is driver, 3w, 7w 4-pw, 50*, 56*, and 60*. I only use 3wood off the tee when driver is too much distance wise. I almost never use it off the deck. That’s why I’m considering a mini. But that’ll have to wait for now. It’s summer and I’m a single Dad of 4 boys. I play most of my golf in fall, spring, and winter when I have weekdays off and they’re at school. Winter is pretty mild here in Georgia so there’s plenty of decent days here and there.
@@TheMuffs2004 built a 13.5 Mini Driver today. I'll keep you posted on how it goes
Great job, add 15 to my HC to yours lol , tuck my tail ,hybrid all day ! gotta be Honest! Thanks Man! Swing speed , easy to get it where you want it to go !
Really considering the 7wood struggle to hit long irons and hybrids
Thanks… would like to see the DHY in the comparaison (as I have 2 of them!)
This was the exact video/review I was looking for. I’m looking to figure out the difference between these 3 exact types of clubs, especially from someone who knows their shit! Thanks bro
Cheers fella, this is a good section of the bag to focus on for sure
I'm quite steep also but tend to not release the club well with my hands ahead so I struggle to launch a long iron high enough. Went to a 7 wood last year from a 3 hybrid and its been a revelation for my game. Would LOVE to see a Ti 7 wood for that higher flight with a little less spin.
Nice video. It is normally windy where I play, I love my 3 iron but a hybrid just gives that bit more versatility. A decent set up allows you to hit the super low or high shot along with something in the middle.
I do indeed enjoy my hybrids and 7 Wood both. Depends on conditions and lie.
Great video. I prefer and love my 3 iron. It’s always been reliable and when the driver isn’t performing, I play the 3i for rest of the round and can consistently get 240-250 from it and still score very well.
I like the hybrid as my course is generally 15-20 kmph + most days
outstanding video. great topic, great explanation and demonstration. well done!
Purchased a second hand 7 wood many years ago..best thing I ever did especially considering I play mt Coolum golf course which has some crazy rough..has saved my game many times
I play mt coolum also mate! Small world hahah
*C* *Trott*
Quick question I value your answer on..
If someone were struggling with lag, could it be beneficial to go with a regular flex instead of the stiff flex they were fitted into to create more lag??
Hmmmm good question but I don’t think I’d suggest that. Increased Lag is a technique change I don’t see a shaft switch helping there opposed to causing too much inconsistency in the feel through the set
Thanks Trottie. Great summary of the "why" regarding 3 clubs with similar lofts.
After watching “golf sidekick “ he convinced me to get a 7 wood, and I’m glad I did. So easy to hit and get it up in the air. My 3 iron is in the trunk of my car now.
Yup ill be selling my 2 and 3 irons soon
Another banger mate!
Why don't you make a 7 wood in the Stealth plus wood help you have all the help but a bit less spin
Trottie, great channel. If you reduce shaft length on driver to 44.5’, should you add weight to the head to rebalance weight? Thanks
100% Watch this vid. I think this is my most under valued vid:
ua-cam.com/video/Ww2GaXSEX9Q/v-deo.htmlsi=pjT8-4glrq_0f-GF
what degree is the hybrid?
Great video! I think that long irons are great on Links course off the tee. The 7 wood is great on course with firm greens, but its good in all lies. I find that the rescue is not a great option because its like no man's land. In some rough conditions yes, and on course with lots of shallow bunkers on par 5s. The thing is too, is modern lofts are so much stronger than in the past.
Great content as always Trottie!!! Can’t wait to get to the kingdom in GA this summer for a fitting!
TROTTIE!!! HOOK A FELLOW SAN DIEGAN UP WITH A USED SIM 2 DRIVER!!!!!
Get rid of the 60 degree and throw in the 3 iron and the 7 wood 😝💪
Class as always Trottie. . . For those that hate 5s, 7 woods like myself, go get a rescue. Don’t get the Max, just get the ‘pro’ edition with the adjustable hosel. Trottie can’t ‘really’ tell you this either, but go look for a GAPR Mid 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 they are absolutely amazing! Still a great club and waaay easier to hit than it looks
Fair..... appreciate ya
Long iron = shank/hosel rocket/small sweet spot. Hybrid= no hosel, no shank. Hot face. Bigger sweet spot, but not big enough for a high handicapper. 5-7 wood= Longer shaft. Bigger head and sweet spot. Easiest for high handicapper to hit.
🤣 LOVE THIS • Explained perfectly 👏🏻
If you carry 160 with a 7 iron ( 3 iron
150 7 iron hybrid
Carry 140 or less with 7 iron ( 7 wood ) as a rough guide
I don't quite follow your question sorry. Are you asking how far the 7 wood would go if you carry a 7i 140 yards?
No he had it right the first time- the 3 iron fears me!
Been thinking 7 wood for while but can't find one that doesn't look left at address.
I just got fit for a Ping 7 wood. We lowered the loft to fill the gap I needed (more of a 4 wood) but now the face is square to open by lowering the loft. I can’t hit it left! Amazing. You could do the same with a 9 wood to achieve the carry distance you’re looking for. Don’t care what number is stamped on the bottom of the club. Only care about how far I carry it.
7 wood for soft landing on the greens.
Helpful info. Thank you.
Not enough people talk about the mans swing, proper quality! Don't know what it is with golf videos and the fellas British and not american, so much easier to watch/listen with that straight up not annoying English accent.
What is the standard Swing weight on Taylormade Hybrids? I'm playing old Cobra f7 hybrids because they are D2 ish. Seems like most hybrids are D0?
Another great video, I alternate between a Titleist T100S 3 iron and a Taylormade Stealth Plus hybrid (19 degrees) depending on course setup and conditions, my 3 iron is amazing off the tee especially on links courses while my hybrid is much better on approach shots into par 5s and really long par 4s on american style golf courses plus it is good out of poor lies, I just find that most 7 woods launch too high possibly due to my steep angle of attack.
Trottie, it would be nice to have a 7w that's 39 to 40" length to bring the peak height down, especially if you are steep. I know you can't real it adjust the lie but I think it would really be a weapon at that length for average golfers. Lee trevino used to play a 6w that was 2 inches shorter and he could work the balls anyway he wanted.
Yup… if I wanted to use one that would be one way of getting there for sure
@@trottiegolf is there any possibility of ordering something like that from Taylormade or not possible because of lie limitations?
@@pipebliss I have no clue fella 🤷🏻♂️ I would assume you can order it at that length but beyond that it’s a customer service question. Sorry pal
Thanks for the reply.
Great content trottie
Great advice. Thank you. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊😊
Well explained ❤👍👍👍great video, exactly what I am looking for. Thanks a lot!
I’ve been thinking about a hybrid for a while. But then I absolutely crush my Nike Vapor Speed 3 iron and think… maybe not haha. But I would like to see an on course comparison for myself.
Whats the typical swing weight for a 2 iron / utility iron?
depends on the length
@@trottiegolf the 2/3 irons that pros typically play for example, the TM pros that all play 2/3 utility irons at The Open
@@billfleming4370 again it depends on the length and the build spec
I put a 7 wood in the bag this week but it's course specific. there are a few courses I play where I need the 215-225 range pretty consistently. The longest iron I play is a GI 5 iron so the 7 wood is a great gap between the 5irion and my 5 wood
What launch monitor are you using?
T R A C K M A N
Surprised you didn’t touch on club head speed between the 3
You work for TM, why wouldn't you have each club in your specs to demonstrate and compare?
I don't like to hoard & I have plenty of stix in my garage & from previous testing I can't see me personally moving off the long iron just yet
@@trottiegolf Understand all that. It's not about you switching to a hybrid or 7 wood. But it's about how being "fitted" for both of those would improve , or should, your ball flight and numbers. Then you're comparing a fitted 3 iron v fitted hybrid- 7 wood. More apples to apples. Rather than fitted v stock. Or just hit a stock 3 iron v stock others. If you see this point.. Otherwise it's still a nice instructional vid.
3 iron is just so hard to hit. Not everyone is a flusher like you trot
I like hybrids since you can hit them well out of the rough
Never could hit long irons or hybrids. So glad I was able to find a 7wood. It's been a great fun club to hit
Hi guys advice I play a tight parkland course, I have driver and 7 wood then 5 iron, I would like to know what to use as an option off the tee between driver and 7 wood? Something lower flight for accuracy, any ideas please
Driving iron but you’d wanna drop the 7 wood if you went that route. All depends how hooked to that 7 wood you are as it’ll be in the loft window for a rescue or a long driving iron
Hey trotti I just got fitted by TaylorMade and have ordered the P770 in Dynamic gold 120 in 1 degree flat. Pumped!
I feel like I could have benefited from trying more shafts:
#1) what is the difference in the dynamic gold 120 and the KBS 120?
#2) Fitter said the p770 were running way behind, I won't get mine until May/June will they be the 2022 version P770?
2) I think you're fine but I don't run the product category launch dates
1) very similar shafts in my opinion. I don't hate either option but that's off a blind recommendation
@@trottiegolf there’s a 2022 P770 coming in the next month or two?!?
Have you heard something about a release @Jack Man 13? I can’t find any info online
@@Longarmshortarm so.....
I really wish I could go back and replay exactly what that TM rep told me because he was pretty knowledgeable and had as much equipment and shafts at his two tents at demo day than Ping, Srixon/Cleveland, wilson, and one other tent combined...
He said the dynamic gold 120 p770 combo I wanted will not be available until May and then he uttered something after that about...." it will be pretty much the same iron, only some slight changes...."
Now did he say they're going to update the p770 sometime later this year and it will be pretty much the same with just some minor changes or what- I don't know?
but when I contacted TaylorMade via phone and email they were not super knowledgeable, but assured me the newest p770 was released in 2020 and has *not* been updated since.....
Here's the weird thing, you go online and you see retailers selling the 2020 p770 or also they will have the *2021* p770? but shouldn't those to be the exact same heads because the club hasn't been updated since 2020?
Do they mean the year when they received their inventory maybe?
TaylorMade is normally on a two-year schedule for updating their irons i believe...
So I'm confused.
but I'm almost certain there is NO new p770 coming out within the next month or two...
But what did that rep say i wish i remembered....."___________________... and it will be pretty much the same p770 iron head, with just some minor changes"
I know I heard him right and he knew his equipment pretty well so was he foreshadowing something I don't know.
Was he telling me don't worry if they update the P770 at the end of the year because it will be pretty much the same as what you're ordering now?
Wish somebody had some information cuz you're right there's nothing online
@@BuffaloNickel9 thanks mate! You’re correct that there’s currently no newer model than the 2020 product you were fit for - the P770s that Harry Higgs currently plays. Any website saying 2021 is just a date error as you mention. Based on what you’ve written there regarding the DG 120gram combo that wasn’t available until May, could he have simply meant that the other shaft combo you ended up going with will be basically the same feeling/performance with some minor differences to the dynamic gold? Maybe Trottie can chime in with some insider knowledge on any upcoming release 😅
Had my first albatross with my 4 hybrid, love that club. got a PXG 7 wood in the bag for the first time, simulator numbers have been great, and just picked up a stealth 5 wood that demoed well.
After Trottie hit the hybrid with draw he said you can’t do that with the 7 wood ? Mentioned sometime about cg location but didn’t finish..??
CG back on the 7 wood & Hybrid. You can draw them both albeit not very easy for me as spec on both a little soft so I was fighting the hook a touch. Apologies I didn't finish explaining I get carried away with it :0)
Just re-watched this & I meant low piercing draw that you cover. 7 Wood shaft longer, so you can draw it but it's a softer more spinny flight. That is what I meant to say word for word..... Good call out
Great stuff Trottie. I’m considering playing both a 2I and a 3H to keep both options in the bag. Would only leave me with 3 wedges though. What are your thoughts on set ups like that? Wedge lofts maybe 46 52 58
I play a 7 wood (21) and a 20 degree hybrid. Only need 2 wedges: 48 and 54. Much better to have options at the other end of the bag.
Don't hate that.... it's enough wedges but I'd make sure the two clubs at the top go different yardages as well as different flights
@@trottiegolf The distances are different, the hybrid is JPX fly-hi that has a more 4-iron length shaft. But the main difference (as you showed) is the lie. If the lie is good then hitting the 7-wood is like another tee shot. If the lie is other (undulating or thicker grass) then the 4-hybrid is the choice as I can alter my stance with this club to the lie.
First
It's not like you don't have the resources and the wherewithal to get a 7 wood in your "spec"
If it makes your point why keep saying that????
I felt like I have enough game & enough skill to get my point across without spending 20 mins making a club that I personally am not gonna use. That's just me, I don't like to waste product