In SHOCK!! First Time Listening to Bring Me the Horizon - Pray for Plagues | Reaction / Lyric Review
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Josh and Alice FINALLY react to old BMTH!!
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Finally, it's about time..
F*cking thank you! You get the pinned comment
In an interview, he said that he didn't feel like an apology was enough for his addiction issues and what it did to those around him. So after Oli got out of rehab he decided to learn how to sing for the band and for the album Sempiternal.
so he got off drugs and their music went to shit? familiar story. This album was a top 10 deathcore album of all time. They had so much potential, and it was wasted.
@@knownassliz7329sempiternal came out right after.. their best album ever.. and a top 10 metalcore album of all time to this day
@@knownassliz7329nice joke
Yeah, there's a lot of simplicity in this song and it's not the most original, but to be fair they were doing this kind of thing long before other bands did it or did it better. Like, their first ep, from 2004 which was pure deathcore/metalcore, predates some of the big deathcore bands like Whitechapel and Suicide Silence. The other bands may have done it better, but BMTH were always on the cutting edge and setting a bar for other bands. That's my opinion, at least.
For sure. I hope it didn't come across as too harsh. We both really enjoyed the song🖤🤘🏻🖤🤘🏻
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast No worries, you guys are great!
Also worth noting, their drummer had only been playing for a little under a year.
@@xerodelacroix5552 thats insane, thats fucking talented
You say it wasn’t the most original but then go on to say right after that they were “doing this kind of thing long before other bands” wdym
Oli tore up his throat much later in their career, all the way in 2019. These vocals are actually pretty good as far as technique is concerned.
Suicide Season was pretty harsh on him ss well
This technique is so unsafe, Oli got his voice so damaged over the years, he dropped his voice several times before 2019, you think why he went to the hospital all the time with laryngitis? He probably became the most reliable patient in the ENT department. This sound comes from the forced whisper to break your clean voice into this roar, and this is obviously damaging your vocal chords so hard. Normal extreme vocals doesn't consist of any whisper and you don't have to force or push anything in this, this is to say simple relaxed vocal fry(distortion, rasp) on your fry cords (this is like two folds of skin situated right over your vocal chords), mixed with relaxed clean voice.
No, he tore them up on the second album. He was mic cupping and will admit that on this album. Basically, he was whispering in a demonic voice and they layered it a few times. It was the Chelsea Smile "I'VE GOT A SECRET, IT'S ON THE TIP OF MY TONGUE" type screaming was techniqueless screaming. His cleans are actually getting better these days, Jordan isn't the entire band anymore. He's obviously not Kyo or Dani Filth, but he's improved.
Anyone with actual knowledge on metal vocals will tell you you're wrong. Oli's technique was piss poor at best, but count your blessings still went nutty
Been waiting for you to hear old BMTH! It’s incredible how far they’ve come.
Absolutely! This song was so fun but they have definitely evolved
Listening to the stuff from Post Human: Survival Horror to listening to this you can hear they still influence this stuff just in a very different way. Suicide Season was what brought me into their music but I'm a fan of it all.
Oil prayed 🙏 for Plagues and caused 2020, that's a hilarious comparison 🤣
Also want to add, Alice’s makeup look is giving me Beetlejuice vibes 💜💚
Hell yeah! That was the goal 🖤🖤🖤
This isolation is not letting me show music to my friends; so at least I have you - my internet friends attentively listening to my favorite band :) I only discovered BMTH 3 months ago, but they quickly dethroned my previous favorite band (from age 11 to 25). I'm just so impressed by their willingness to do absolutely ANYTHING they want with their music, not caring how many people it will piss off. I would probably like their music even if they decided to play some country, because I know they would do it well :D
Haha yes honestly they'd probably make some good blue grass tunes 😂🤣😂🤣
Who was your previous favorite?
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast My Chemical Romance :D They really got me into music when I was 11, they opened a whole new world for me :) I was actually supposed to see them in July, hopefully it will be possible in July 2021.
No way! We had tickets for October!
I believe this is classified as deathcore. Not quite the same as deathcore today but still deathcore
I got into them there is a hell/sempiternal era, and it took me a second to get into the old stuff but i do love this song. Still think they just get better as they go on though.
Also, love the new hair.
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React to more old bmth songs, they're so good
We will. Thank you for staying on top of it!
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast Chelsea Smile!
Im going to be soo happy once you 2 get to Chelsea smile.
You guys have become my favorite channel to watch! BTMH has come a long way and their sound is amazing now but the old BTMH was so unique for its time and were the band that got me into metalcore . 🖤
🖤🤘🏻🖤🤘🏻 too kind. And yeah. This song slaps!
Old school BMTH is so raw I love it
Suicide Silence is how Deathcore sounded at first if you’re curious how it all began
Despised Icon is considered as the first deathcore band
@@3remirror Also Antagony, Embodyment and The Red Chord.
Animosity too. The development came through melodeath like In Flames and At The Gates though.
This was everything I wanted it to be and more. Your face when the song started was exactly the reaction that I wanted! So good!
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totally agree on the blackened comment, "blackened" metal is totally a thing, like behemoth is blackened death metal
Thank you!
I would just like to say. I'm an og fan of BMTH, and I still really enjoy all of their music. I grew with them. If they were still making early 2000s deathcore I wouldn't be listening to them. I still like deathcore, just not this kind. I'm 25, and this is the song that put me on to them when I was 11. I didn't know what they were saying at that time. Probably a good thing lol.
I can’t wait for you to react to more BMTH 🤘🏼🖤
Same tbh 😊🖤🤘🏻🖤🤘🏻
if you want to see oli screams like on that video lately, you can check out their deathcore medley live in australia 2019
I’m a bit late on this but the argument can definitely be made: this era of BMTH was deathcore, while their new stuff is metalcore. I could be wrong, but deathcore is a lot more violent and dark, bands in this era like Suicide Silence, Whitechapel and Chelsea Grin all share this in common - swift tempo changes, grim and violent breakdowns, blast beats, djent, etc.
Metalcore exhibits more of a clean sound, a more forgiving experience. Bands like August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying and Miss May I are great examples of still being able to be heavy, but opening up into something more positive. When the songs open up into upbeat and uplifting chord progressions, or hearing clean singing, that’s usually a sure difference between the two. Still good! Just different
100% mate, people of modern day "post-hardcore" may never understand. No diss towards the people reviewing, the music and age of HxC during this time is vastly different and their surprise of what BMTH sounds today goes to show. I am glad august burns red stayed true to their sound- rock on.
Just to stay in the year 2006, we now need an As Blood Runs Black - In Dying Days reaction video. Back when I was in high school everyone was listening to this song.👨🏼🦳
My Fears Have Become Phobias by ABRB would be better, the song is still brutal as fuck today haha.
hester prynne is ridiculous too
I was lucky when I was in BMTH which was still with the deathcore genre and my life was in 2007 when I was 15 years old, I remember it very well because I always play this song every day, including at school.
It took me a while, but now I love pretty much this whole album. The terrible bass playing, bad lyrics and sloppy drumming just add to the experience for me if I'm being honest. Some of the guitar work on this album is really cool. If you're going to check out more from this album, I would recommend '(I Used To Make Out With) Medusa', 'Black & Blue', 'A Lot Like Vegas', and 'Off The Heezay'. I can't wait for you guys to get to 'There is a Hell...'.
Non of them really knew how to play which Is hilarious, considering where they are today. It blows my mind how much effort and attention to detail, And just how much work the so to create by themselves before someone adds the finishing touches. Just phenomenal. Sure OG fans hate their change. But I just see them as way more talented. Those OG fans are deathcore fans, not music and BMTH fans
Please react to Asking Alexandria "The final Episode": 3
*thinking*
Actually, yes. Yes we will do that. That's before they went butt rock right?
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast You should react to A Prophecy instead of The Final Episode, both are classics but A Prophecy is a little more famous song by them from the same first album !
If you’re going to continue the deep dive in BMTH, check out Diamonds Aren’t Forever or the Comedown if you want to start seeing the subtle changes in sounds.
comparing 10 years challenge bmth :
deathcore medley live at alexandra palace
“Vastly different” is the most apt description I’ve heard about their new and old sound lol
What makes them good is that they changed but still make amazing music. Im not sure i feel that way about asking Alexandria. I just think they execute it better them everyone else and are always willing to give anything a go
I highly recommend you watch the video called “BMTH 2008 vs BMTH 2018” in 2018 he performed 3 old songs and this has clips of old and new versions of all 3 songs. It’s really interesting to see how much he changed and grew as a vocalist. He can still do a lot of it but you can see the parts he just knows not to do. Here is the link. ua-cam.com/video/BJnYmc8Vszw/v-deo.html
Thank you!!
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast you’re welcome! 🖤
Just gonna say, I was definitely an old school BMTH fan, I started listening to them when I was really young and I still really love everything they put out. But I also think its got a little to do with the fact that while the band was changing, so was my music taste. But they’re one of the few bands that I still listen to from like middle school
Also this used to be my all time favorite song by them
Love it, next do Diamonds aren't forever
Definitely a throwback song haha 👍🤘 glad to see the upload
"OPEN THE PIT!!"
They were deathcore. Metalcore is more like As I Lay Dying. Great reaction \m/
If people didn’t get obsessed or swept up in obsessive emotions or feelings sometimes we wouldn’t have so much great music tbf
Still goosebumps when listening to this
Loved the video guys! I hate to be that guy but this isn't metalcore it's deathcore. Great reaction!
Definitely deathcore. I (Josh) might have cut out were are called that 🖤🤘🏻🖤😅😅
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast I just re watched parts of it and you did mention deathcore. Great video guys. Glad to see someone actually break down a song and elaborate on it!
🤘🏻🖤🤘🏻🖤 we just love the music glad you're here to enjoy it with us. And please *do* call it out if you feel we got something wrong.
Its not even pure deathcore. Its just deathcor-ish. This band has always been different. Always been always will be
Really enjoyed our reaction as always! 🎧🎼📣 Honestly some of those growls sounded like Gollum from LOTR.... Imho 🤪
Alice, here is a challenge for you: how about some supermarket-friendly mommy metal make-up looks for us GenX Symphonic Metal fans? Pleeeeeeaaaaase 😭🖤 (because really, there is no hope for us pulling off anything without your help 😉🙃😁)
Best wishes from Namibia 🤟🏻🇳🇦🤟🏻
nobody :
bmth : close your eyes, prays for plagues, oh lord clean this earth and bring upon our doomsday ( sounds like legit in 2020 )
Right!?
I love your hair girl!
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And now you know why they changed their sound!! They didn’t want to be lumped into a scene or sound like the other bands that came out at the same time.
This album came out around the same time as Suicide Silence and Whitechapel and Job for a Cowboy!! That whole MySpace Deathcore scene!!
2004 is when they release their first album before this one and i honestly loved them for a long time but just grew out of it and listened to heavier stuff lol but honestly live he was something else he was heavier
Suicide season was the last album that I listen too. To this day I still have the albums
I just found your channel and i love your content and musical input, you guys speak so intentionally and eloquently, and Alice you are super gorgeous love ur short hair here❤️❤️
Great make up and also pray for plagues is still the best song ever BMTH gave birth to
I really appreciate how much you go into depth about genres, and artists changing their sound. The "Maturity" label is very interesting. It makes me think more broadly about artists i know. 9:24 about Asking Alexandria - I partly agree. (not a huge fan btw) You're right, they have changed their genre essentially. But a lot of maturity is also intertwined with that IMHO.
Another band which has been the greatest road to follow with their sound change has been Thrice. Post-Hardcore songs like Paper Tigers in 2003. They released a 4 disk album on the 4 elements in 2007, called The Alchemy Index. The "Fire" album was heavy, "Water" was peaceful, "Air" and "Earth" were blues/folk rockish.
Now they have progressed into their own sound which many listeners on the journey have really appreciated, somewhat like BMTH. (Wayyy different sounds though)
Now i need to furthermore look into some favourite artists of mine and look into their whether they have matured, or just changed to stay alive etc.
Definitely respect your opinion on this one. We'll have to check out thrice, we used to jam their stuff quite a bit.
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast It was just an example. Totally not what i expect you to like listening to.
Go for songs in Suicide Season and There is a Hell... there's when they actually found their identity. And then Sempiternal was a turning point. They were one of the first bands to put out music like this and they were teenagers, some of them were not even 18 at the moment. The screams and tone in the next two albums are IMO truly unique and they where praised among critics because BMTH went from a straight deathcore band to something much more special, personal, different, mixing metalcore with hardcore metal and hardcore punk, they made their own style that then it was copied and copied by MANY bands. This is their first studio album; now listen to those and I think you'll get what I'm saying. They even said they were just a bunch of teens who only wanted to trash it all back then, but they grew up and so did their sound. Btw, thanks to them the "more developed deathcore" started emerging, but they didn't engage to a style, but to their own core. Suicide Season (the whole album) is my all time fav. But I think AMO is a musical masterpiece and SH a superb EP. And I say so as a musician myself (I listen from Meshuggah to Cabaret Voltaire, Sopor Aeternus or Prince, if the music has soul and hits me I couldn't care less about labels). Cheers from Spain.
Listen to their albums in order and its less of an extreme change.
THE SUN GOES DOWN...
PLEASE DO THE DEATHCORE MEDLEY LIVE OF BMTH
The messed up part of this is the producer of Count Your Blessings produced In Flames and Meshuggah.
Sound quality may have gone up in the last decade or so, but I definitely miss when everything wasn't so loud and bassy. I wasn't a metalhead back then, but going back to bands from that era is great. The music felt rawer.
I get what you mean about Asking Alexandria and their rapid change. I don't like most of their new tracks, and I also don't think their lyrics have matured as much as is said in their new stuff...but Motionless in White? MIW still make heavy music. What they've done is what should be considered evolving. They've experimented while always sticking to their original sound. I saw your reaction to Disguise, and Alice's assessment was fair based on that one song. I suggest checking out more of them. Perhaps something heavier? Since you thought they're considered sellouts, react to their *latest* song 'Creatures X: To The Grave' live from their Deadstream concert (28th Oct 2020)- a live stream concert held to commemorate their 10 year anniversary of their debut album 'Creatures'. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/_nz27VgvHUY/v-deo.html
Hope you both have a good day!
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Oli had to stop doing all the growls etc from ruining he's voice that's why from the 2nd to 3rd album it came less and less death core but still check out their old stuff 🤘🏻
FYI everyone sounded like this because of Bring me the Horizon. Any other reasoning is pure lies.
eh, bmth weren't first and definitely weren't influential. everyone hated them back then for getting scene kids into extreme metal, which is dumb as hell.
that is deathcore is not even like the asking alexandria or motionles in white are talking about
You guys should check out this new band, If I Die First. It's a "super group of emo rappers" and the guitarist from From First to Last (I'm not sure if he is producing them or in the band). They sound like Saosin or FFTL when Sonny Moore was with them. ua-cam.com/video/q0xqbFe6P8w/v-deo.html
lol this isn't metalcore lmao.
Mainly Ollie changed his vocals for the fact he didn’t use a safe vocal technique weather vocal fry or false cord etc he just screamed 😂
Well, they don't do much for me, but I learn a lot from your conversations. I understand the role of death metal and related genres in providing a "safe space" for people dealing with stuff--your discussion of that in other videos is on point. But western metal seems to be trapped in an arms race to be the angriest, most abrasive, and most depressing. If you dive further into Japanese girl-metal, especially bands like Lovebites, Nemophila and Gacharic Spin, you'll find a world of music that is heavy as F*** but empowering and uplifting. Alice, you picked up on that in your first Lovebites reaction, and I hope you do more.
Its a fan made rumour how he jacked up his throat. He actually contracted laryngitis during a tour,but he continued on this tour anyway, I mean he never used to warm up his vocals either. Said he felt stupid. 😅 But if he wasn't screaming properly he wouldn't be able to get through a full song screaming like that. Ive tried with no proper technique. And It really hurts. Imagine recording a full album that way or doing night after night on tour . That wouldn't be possible. And he would have wrecked his vocals waaaaay before he did.
Old BMTH is the best BMTH
Honestly this song would be so good live
@@ArsenicAndEspressoPodcast you should check this, semi recent performance of the song from well after they left their deathcore sound behind ua-cam.com/video/4V1N3VBSRbk/v-deo.html
Since after Suicide Season, the band has evolved into a more hard rock Linkin Park influenced sound.
Now we need a reaction to the live version they did in the last few years
Remember when BMTH used to be heavy? Pepperidge farm remembers…
I honestly dont care much for the screaming type of metal BUT this album and one of the suicide silence albums I cant seem to get enough of for some reason but out side of that the rest of this type of metal is just not my thing
Oli caused the plague 🤔 I hadn't thought of it that way lol
Can you please stop calling everything metalcore , not hating or anything guys but the first BMTH album which included this song was Deathcore which is completely different .
Love your channel 🔥🖤🤘🏻
15 years ago BMTH and Old Suicide Silence was my favourite bands, I used to listen them everyday!!!
Its literally the best breakdown ever made to this day, absolute pinnacle of deathcore.
You guys have to check out a new up-and-comer. They are early 2000's NU metal meets today's Deathcore. Probably the breakout metal band of the year. They are called Tallah. Their drummer is named Max Portnoy and he is the son of Mike Portnoy, who used to drum for dream theater. Their vocalist is named Justin bonitz. He has a couple of UA-cam channels and apparently had won a vocalist contest at one time. They are almost unbelievably good
No one should read this
L.E.D.
Overconfidence
That, actually sound right up our alley
Early to mid 2000s metal was by far top tier.
PLEASSSEE: Dark Tranquillity: phantom days.
THE SUN GOES DOWN
AND SO DOES SHE
On the sound quality, plenty could and did do better than this in mid-2000s, but it would require a bit more than just a laptop and that was never gonna happen for a UK deathcore band.
A super compressed youtube vid isn't going to help on that score either.
The people you know who screwed up their voiced were probably doing it unsafely. It's perfectly possible to get longevity out of various 'unclean' vocal styles if using proper technique, but it's certainly not easy to come by tutelage in that and it definitely wasn't back in the early - mid 00's. Nor do many late teens or early 20s starting bands really look for it when they're starting out.
After viewing this video, I shall now refer to laptops as lappy-tops.
you should definitely react to Spiritbox - Rule of nines some time its a really good one to add to the collection. Do the live one of just her singing if you can!
bro I cringed so bad when I heard y'all say y'all made fun of asking Alexandria.. bring me the horizons fall from greatness was far more tragic. suicide season was also pretty top tier before they went "softer". a band that has done the opposite is Greeley estates, they started soft and then released No rain, no rainbow and it was a lot harder than their previous albums
Have to be honest here. I didnt like this Song and cant even listen to it on its own.
I can understand why oldschool BMTH fans were not in league with their new Sound, but for me personally im so happy they changed. Without the change i wouldnt have one of my favorite Bands today.
Please dont murder me in the comments.
It doesn’t sound like 2006 metal core it sounds like 2006 deathcore
It’s pretty common to have both high and low screams in Deathcore so that was not the reason Oli damages his voice , if you want a really versatile and impressive band with those screams check out Slaughter to Prevail and Lorna Shore
Interesting. Millenials like to make fun of OG Metalcore the same way we GenX like to make fun at Nu Metal. Self deprecating humor? Because let's be honest, we loved that shit when we were 15, and we still do as a guilty pleasure / nostagia.
Anyway... the expression "Blackened Metal" makes me cringe so hard, sorry for being too "old school" but I didn't like that BMTH would copy BM vocal tropes, and also copy themselves - the 1st Riff here is the same as "Shadow Moses". Just my opinion ofc.
PS Alice, I love your badass haircut.
I’m not a boring , I love this era and I adore the new era, bring me the horizon is making history on music.
Blackened is 100% the correct term
hello from Brazil, pls react BMTH BBC Blessed with a curse or It Never Ends (video from 2011)
Nice video ♥
I'm pretty sure. If I remember correctly he did fuck his voice up badly which is why he cant do it still.
I'm here, 3 years later watching these two murdering one of my fav BMTH songs ever🤦🏻♀️When that album was released it was an instant success. I certainly prefer those times better than this 2024. Damn...
please react to deathcore medley live at Alexandra Palace
You need react to bmth deathcore medley
Have you guys react to Infant Anhihilator?
Would love you two to react to BMTH's older stuff! Happy Song is defo my fave song by them
W hats the intro song?
This reminded me I got a set list from Lee Malia. I need to find that forsure. Used to have it on my wall for years
Pretty sure this is deathcore
Humanitys last breath - Earthless. Good luck.
This is actually the first song I heard from them. 14 years...damn it, I'm old :-D
This is not metalcore it's one of the earliest releases of a genre called Deathcore :) I like deathcore BMTH a lot more than their music after Sempiternal.
Deathcore**
People really listen to this and be like “God amo was shit” like wtf lmao. I get liking heavy but some of this is just not good, especially now when we know that they can pull off with stuff like dear diary and king slayer.
Great reaction, you got to react to Leviathan by Esprit D'Air next 🙏🙏 You'd love the aesthetic and sound