Dream Theater - Illumination Theory REACTION & REVIEW! FIRST TIME HEARING!
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2023
- Dream Theater Fans.....FEELIN' YOU!!! Tonight we're coming back to Dream Theater, with a song entitled "Illumination Theory". How's this one gonna go? Only one way to find out...
Come on in, enjoy the show...I'll see you inside.
Scoring System Guide
10 = Perfection (Unobtainable)
9.0 - 9.9 = Awesome, Amazing
8.0 - 8.9 = Great
7.0 - 7.9 = Really Good
6.0 - 6.9 = Pretty Good
5.0 - 5.9 = O.k.
4.0 - 4.9 = Not So Good
3.0 - 3.9 = Pretty Bad
2.0 - 2.9 = Really Bad
1.0 - 1.9 = Horrible, Awful
0.0 - 0.9 = A Travesty, An Affront To Nature
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• Dream Theater - Illumi...
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This is why dream theater is who they are, they do what other bands cant, the crazier they get the more i love, because they do what no one else does
I personally love ridiculous time changes.
I mean the craziness is what makes Dream Theater. Their 2nd album and Scenes from a Memory makes that obvious that complexity is their skill. Octavarium, especially the title track, is a masterpiece of complex playing, as well as telling an interesting story about their influences and how life is one big circle; The harder we try to be our own person is when we end up the most like our predecessors. No Dream Theater album is bad by any means.
DT 4 LIFE! There is no better band and there will never be a better band!
Even if you don't like DT, you still have to appreciate their unmatched musical genius, technicality, and brutal songwriting abilities.
I'm quite the opposite. I enjoy the extreme complexity. My brain is just wired that way. I just really enjoy it very much.
Believe me there's much more bands that do technical stuff just to showoff, but Dream Theater is not one of them. Yes they make technical and complex songs but in a musical way, every element has its own role.. You just need to listen to the melody and forget about the calculator
I enjoy their work in the last 10 years more. More cohesive and less noodling
i understand your point about the complexity... but at the same time, that's the flexibility of music, to extend the possibilities of writting. I love Dream Theater's complexity because I discover something new un every listening and it's fun for me to put attention on the details... What I didn't like sometimes and they have corrected lately, is that sometimes the song goes all over the place forgetting the main melodic theme and never come back to It, and a lots of prog bands have that problem, that's what I love of Octavarium, the main theme was well developed. they have improve their writting since then. I love your reactions btw, keep Up the amazing work :3 sorry if my english is bad, i'm Mexican xD
There are literally millions of songs that don't do crazy time changes, so I'm glad there are some that do, variety is the spice of life :)
This was amazing man, thank you for all the time you put into it
Octavarium is an absolut masterpiece, real good music is not for everyone
I enjoyed hearing your opinions about the constant changing of time signatures, even though I don't share the same feelings. With songs that have rapid-fire meter changes into odd meter, do you find that you can come to enjoy them after you've listened a few times and figured out the pattern? Or does it just lose you immediately?
For me personally, once I mathed out (scientific calculator, I know...) the section that alternates between 7/16, 5/16, and 9/16, I found that for me it became so much easier to really dig into what's going on, and made me appreciate the section more (I already loved the rapidfire meter changes, don't get me wrong)
I REALLY enjoy hearing people's opinions when they differ from my own, because it opens doors to understanding that maybe weren't there before. I applaud you for giving your honest opinions!
Last thing I'll say, is that when you ranted as Jordan came downstage with the keytar, the thing that I appreciated most was the PASSION in your voice. Media, whether it be visual or aural, having the ability to evoke such a profound response (whether positive OR negative), really shows both passion as a consumer but also the depth of the media itself.
(ps. I bought my Bongo 6 in 2013 and have never looked back.. except for a fretless Bongo :-) )
Amazing performance! Dream Theater is like a supergroup 🤟
Frankly, I think they enjoy playing the crazy stuff and do it for their enjoyment. Not to prove any point.For me, it keeps me from getting bored. You are missing out. The Count of Tuscany, In the Presence of Enemies, Breaking All Illusions, and more. To each his own though. You seem to be way to focused on how many time changes there are. I can't even tell, when and what they are, but I can head-bang with ease to all Dream Theater. Oh, and Falling into Infinity is awesome too. Variety and different. Yet, still Dream Theater.
Awesome review. I love this track so much. It's probably my favorite of the long-form epics behind ACoS and Count of Tuscany. Slides into 3rd place just ahead of Octavarium. Not the most explosive in terms of instrumentality but it's definitely one of their best arranged long-form songs. It just flows...WELL. And the orchestral break in the middle is just so tasteful and appropriate.
distance over time is a good place to start. Black clouds and silver linings I love, but there are a few of the impress songs but off that album The Count of Tuscany tells a great story and is a journey with a nice slow Floyd style middle section.
Great reaction as always David! Distance Over Time is a good return to form for DT in IMO, as neither technicality or musicality is at odds with each other, it just seamlessly blends well. Untethered Angel is a great song to start from. Also in that album, Mike Mangini seems to finally lock into the rest of the band that, being a Portnoy fan, had me giving the nod to Mangini's delivery.
Given what you have said that you don’t like then I would say jump to ‘A dramatic turn of events’. Its still Dream Theater but IMHO has a more coherent SONG focussed writing and less flash for flash sake. Try the opener ‘On the backs of Angels’ and see what you think.
When they change time signatures it's a time to take a break and just listen and not think about it. If you can. Dream Theater just do that and It's a signature sound of theirs. You have to just let it go at this point. Back in the 90's when I discovered them I loved that they did that and I still love it today. Because I am a musician and they make some music especially for musicians. Which I appreciate.
I gave up on them about the same time for the same reasons. But a few years ago - i think 2019 - i heard the albumb "distance over time" and thats all i listened to for about a month. Most the songs are 5 minutes and could almost make it to radio...which i know some people might hate, but it was refreshing to me. Short, hard rocking songs, killer melodies and chops, beautiful guitar tone with short clean solos. Especially the songs: At Wits End and Barstool Warrior.
That got me back into dream theater a bit and i went back and found some great songs from other albums. Check out The Best of Times - its awesome. The last 2 cd's after Distance kinda went back to the spazy crazy boring stuff though...in my opinion. I dont want to have to work at listening to music.
I was gonna comment something like this. While I still like listening to DT, I feel like, for his preference, Distance Over Time is a solid album that isn’t too complex. I would love to see him react to The Best of Times.
i agree with you on this, DoT has that complexity but still fun enough to groove with. As DT fan who come across their music for the first time in 2012, it is my favorite album.
How about the count of tuscany?
@@grhn5960 Personally that’s my favorite DT song. Not sure how it’s received by others though.
I'd say Distance Over Time album from 2019. Melodic, shorter songs. Overall a great album. Quite heavy as well with only one ballad. That's a great start!!!
I'll keep that in mind.
Completely agreed on Octavroim
You Love music and i appreciate that. You are in the mood when you liste and glad you become to love DT. My favorite bande for ever.
While I'm not the biggest fan of the album, in Octavarium's defense, it doesn't have nearly as many time signature changes or complexities as most of the albums before it. My main issue with it is hard to put into words, I guess it just feels kind of sterile. When Dream Theater are at their best, I don't mind if the time signature changes every measure, cause if the song is good, I'll keep coming back and eventually I'll be headbanging without a thought of what time signature we're in.
I would actually just start where you left off and listen to Systematic Chaos, the album that followed Octavarium.
The album for sure has some moments where they, as you would put it, try to be impressive. But I'd argue that Scenes from a Memory has The Dance of Eternity, and you love that album too. Systematic Chaos also has some great songwriting though. Forsaken is one their shorter, most memorable songs. I'm pretty sure you'll love The Ministry of Lost Souls, a very melodic tune. And the two parts of In The Presence of Enemies are some of the best I've heard from DT, although they have their lengths.
Systematic Chaos is actually my first bought and probably second most listened (after Scenes from a Memory of course) album from DT. Since I mostly share your assessment of their previous albums, I thought I might just as well put it out there. Probably not a suggestion you'll hear a lot, since I get the feeling it's a rather overlooked album.
Another suggestion might be The Astonishing. It's basically a Rock opera and I know you're not a lyrics guy and might therefore not care for the story, but you still might enjoy the format, which is much more focused on storytelling rather than technicality.
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It’s ironic Portnoy now on a small kit with winery dogs playing more straight forward rock. Great lineup and fits in perfect. Glad he didn’t create a Dream Theater 2.0
42:34 I feel you bro, felt the same. Still a masterpiece
You should listen to their album "Falling Into Infinity", that album has a lot more straight forward songs, and one of Petrucci's absolute best solos imo; "Lines In The Sand".
Wasn't really a fan of that album. They had some good songs on it (Lines In The Sand being my favorite, along with New Millennium) I just found the album to be very ballad heavy, and I was never a fan of Sherinian in the band. He just didn't fit, and he tried to hard to shape DT into his vision of what DT should have been. Luckily they dumped him and got Rudess, and went on to record their best album ever afterwards.
I use to love DT, but they lost me over the years. I use to like whole albums. Now I just like a few specific songs.
It's good
It's cool not to like them; but you just have to accept that it's who they are.
Hey man! Not sure if anyone answered your question but Myung is playing a 6 string here, not a 7! The guitar player plays a 7! I don’t think Myung has ever used a 7…not sure why any bass player would 😂
I use a 7 on occasion, mostly for studio work.
I'm almost sure you will really enjoy Distance Over Time.
If they don't do DT-awesome, people lose their minds. If they do, people lose their minds still.
SMH
When I first saw that you were going to do a reaction to this I was like "hey I really want him to do this song so I'm really glad someone requested it and it won the poll". And then I heard the requestor's name and said... "OH MY GOD THAT WAS ME?!?" hahahahhaha
Thank you David, really good reaction there. The song is mostly played as is from the album (orchestral parts and all) so nothing was cut there.
On complexity, I respect your opinion, and it's probably the opinion of a lot of people that get put off from Dream Theater. That said, I think it's now an integral part of the band's identity, and some of us do thrive in that complexity. Now I do not claim to understand everything that they do, but when it comes to these complex parts, I try to understand the "why" of it. Often times, I find these complex sections of their songs as meant to take you through a journey of themes through the songs.
About their current drummer Mike Mangini, as a drummer I find him to be one of the most technical drummers out there. Even more so than Portnoy. He was a professor at Berklee so I guess that speaks volumes.
Mangini's kit is meant to be played ambidextrously (he plays both as a lefty and righty) and is laid out so he can follow melodic runs and plays either left or right side of his kit depending on key changes. He has a knack of making complex things sound simpler or as you picked up on, subdividing one time signature to give the impression of changing time.
Some people don't like Mangini and I honestly think it's because of his technical proficiency. He plays so accurately to the time that he can seem robotic at times. Also, I won't deny that on the studio albums at least, the drum sounds Petrucci (he took over Portnoy's role when it comes to the mix here) chose for Mike Mangini brings him towards the back, making him seem more lifeless. But on live shows, he absolutely rocks.
Now if you are going back to Dream Theater, you cannot escape the complexities in their songs. Mike Mangini has certainly pushed the envelope here IMO. That said, they do let their music breathe a bit more. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is a good place to start (their first album without Mike Portnoy). Probably an unpopular opinion, but The Astonishing (another concept album with a story just like Metropolis Pt 2) is way underrated, but musically it was a fun listen.
I do think their latest 2 releases, Distance Over Time and A View From The Top Of The World are some of their best works IMO. Maybe leaning on the complex side. The opening track for example of A View From The Top Of The World is mostly in 17/16, but the drums and guitars work their subdivisions making the illusion of changing time. There are sections for example where the drums would play on 4/4 under the guitar's 17/16 riff resulting in a weird 17/4 mashup that is just rhythmically wonderful.
Again thank you for doing this reaction. Cheers David!
Mike Mangini is in my opinion one of the greatest drummers of all time and the band was very lucky to get him to join the band (I mean, they had to do something since Portnoy wanted the band to go on a indefinite hiatus while he was playing with Avenged Sevenfold.) I really don´t get why so many people dislike having Mangini in the band but to each their own I guess. But That being said, although I love Mangini (he´s one of my all time favourites) and I´m really happy that he Joined the band when they needed a new drummer I´ll just have to admit that I think Portnoy (who is also one of my favourites) is a better fit for Dream Theater.
Maybe dont hurt yourself trying to count it out and just listen to it? Isn't that what we are supposed to do with music?
You're obviously not a drummer or a bassist, that's all we do.
Great reaction, but from what I can gather from it one could think that you´re not a big fan of bands like Liquid Tension Experiment 😅but to be fair, their music is not for everyone. About the album you dare not speak of, Falling into Infinity 🤫 The band was not happy with the outcome of that album (even though they have spoken more positively about it in recent years) They were pressured by their record label to write more "radio friendly" songs and forced to work with a producer they did not want to work with (they wanted to produce the album themselves) They even wrote a double album with a 20 min song called "Scenes from a memory pt. 2" but were forced to cut it and bunch of other songs do to budget reasons and so the album could fit on 1 disc. From what I can gather, they were so miserable writing that album that they even considered retiring at one point, at least according to what Portnoy supposedly said in an interview once 😅
I still think Scenes From A Memory Pt 2 was the best album they ever released, definitely my favorite from them.
@@THEDavidHeretic Yeah, the good thing about them not being able to release that 20 min song called Scene from a Memory pt. 2 is that instead we got a whole 70+ min album called the same name from it later on 😄
edit. Just to avoid all confusion, they were miserable while writing Falling Into Infinity, not Scenes From a memory pt. 2 😅
Dream Theater is by far the greatest band that I have ever heard in my long musical lifetime! I love all the time signature and key changes. The more the better. I don't care for anyone that doesn't love this. Dream Theater is not a band to be counted, danced to, head banged to. They are a band to be listened to and for this reason, you are getting a big thumbs down from me. And one more thing. I hate GROOVE music.
sorry man. Good songs are subjective. Octavarium in my eyes is one of the greatest songs of all time. I don't think you should claim that a band is doing something just to be something. That is no longer opinion it becomes assumption. Still liked the reaction though.
Like Polyphia, another supremely talented group of musicians that put me right to sleep. 😴😴
On a completely unrelated note...Babymetal (Su and Moa) performed their song Monochrome on a show called Just One Take, where an artist stands in frot of a mic and has just one take to perform a song. It's being reacted to a lot and Amuse don't seem to have any power over it while the company who produce the show seem happy to let it be seen by any means - it got a million hits on the first day! It's a vocal jewel and a thing of beauty - ua-cam.com/video/h-hPGRSjgms/v-deo.html
Don't agree with you man, sorry.
DT are super talented but and its a big BUT they dont do good songs.
Masters!🤟🏻🙏🏻