I met Ace at Rock & Shock in 2011. Although he wasn’t rude or nasty to me, he did give the impression that he didn’t want to be there. But afterwards I was talking to my friend and Ace passed us and he did say hello to me
Good stories. I love KISS, but I'm glad I never met any of them. I'm thinking Bruce Kulick may be great with fans. If Ace wanted $1000 for an autograph , I would be tempted to ask him to sign a photo of Tommy Thayer.
I don't understand why people still want to meet these guys, they sound like complete nasty narcissists. Anyway there are lots better rock music than Kiss too.
Eric Carr was the nicest when I met him on his last tour. I also had good experiences with Eric Singer on the Revenge tour and on a KISS Kruise. Gene was pretty cool and Paul has been hit and miss for me. Peter Criss was kind of a dick and I've never met Ace which is probably a good thing.
I never thought he was so mean. A friend of mine met Paul McCartney at the airport, and he was the total opposite. He was nice and friendly, and took the time to speak with my friend. He did not agree to a photo though, but he wasn`t rude or anything. He just said he preferred to sit there and talk and apologized. But he signed an autograph and spoke to my friend for at least ten minutes before he had to go to catch his flight. My friend was not a Paul McCartney fan before that meeting, but is a huge fan now.
I was, thankfully, never huge on autographs. I have probably lost/thrown away more than I actually still have. The growing con circuit and the ridiculous increase in prices has basically put me in "nah" territory. Jerry Only, at small club Misfits shows, signed for any and everybody for free. That man always treated fans well in my experience. I wish more people subscribed to his m.o.
My family always buy me autograph crap I hate it. I was given a Ric Flair autograph Boots Steven Tyler autograph and I don't even like Aerosmith like that lost in my home somewhere
Whats ironic is that in most interviews Ace brings up Gene or Paul and how its “all about the money for them” and then mentions some of the crazy KISS items like toilet paper and caskets. Then he turns around and tries to sell a pair of dirty socks for 3500 bucks and charges you extra to draw a damn star next to his autograph. Ace is by far my favorite member of KISS. I love his solo stuff, the Frehleys Comet stuff, cant wait for his next album but based on what ive seen at signings and from what ive read about peoples encounters i might would pass on a meet and greet. Then again ive heard ppl mention they met him on the street and he was as nice as could be
im NOT surprised, shows you who the Liar is. I Never met them but back in 1995 I went to go see ACE & Peter on their solo tour before the reunion. Saratoga NY & we waited for almost 2 Hours! for them to come out on Stage. A Roadie came on stage to adjust something & the crowd cheered, The guys smiles & waves. I mentioned it in my Ace Video. after hearing these stories I will Never go to meet him. id rather meet Andy & Amy seriously : )
Kiss is my favorite band for 47 years Since I was 8 years old I met Ace in the 80's and was so disappointed he was still out of it on something and he did signing for free at record store and he laughed at the picture I had him sign because he said I don't remember that photo shoot I must have been wasted he was my hero and that just sucked I saw him last tour w Alice cooper and Ace just really sucked took my son and he was not impressed at All He loves Alice cooper and we met Alice cooper previously and he was the nicest person we Ever met me my wife and son There's a difference between the legendary Alice cooper and the drugged out alcoholic Ace I love the original kiss more than Anything but no respect for fans I've met Gene he was cordial Met Bruce and he was super nice All musicians need to realize how they got where they are They have talent and have worked hard but you'd be no where without us Sorry you had a similar experience
Kind of unfair to compare any rock star to ALICE…he’s pretty much considered the nicest guy in the business. I’m super proud to be a fan about fifty years now.
Hey great to see you on here (and when I run into you at Chiller!), with a perfect topic that has been on many minds lately! Yes, not only is his pricing ridiculous, and treatment of the fans rediculous, you forgot to even mention the hours and hours people waited on line while he was either signing for the VIP prepaid buyers or taking a break! We had a friend go through it and was sorry he did! There was a lot of posts about how rude he was and the pricing, too many to cover here. I've been selling off the Ace collection for years as my interest had waned with the way he treated me, but this just adds to it, and more and more people are sharing their stories. I would never give him another penny or second of my time. I truly appreciate the Chiller guests that are reasonable and happy to meet a fan! See you next show!
My wife and I had the same exact experience with Eric Singer at a KISS Expo in NJ. He was signing his photo like a robot, head down, not even looking at the fans in line, signed one photo pushed it to the fan in line, signed the next photo, pushed it to the next fan, head down the entire time. My wife grabbed the photo walked away and threw it in the trash. Alternately, we met John Regan at the same KISS Expo and he was one of the nicest guys ever.
Someday I'm going to one of these signings and I'm going to pay for him to sign Shock Me on a CD for ten or fifteen bucks. I won't pay to have him sign his name. When Revenge came out Kiss went on a promotional tour of small clubs. They played about an hour and then signed autographs. The local show I got to go to was put on by a radio station and I won tickets. We were told they'd sign autographs but not told that it would be one autograph from one band member. I got Paul to sign my Double Platinum and while waiting for my friend to get a Gene autograph, I thought I'd try to get an Eric since his line was short and at this point nobody was in it. He refused pointing out that I got my one autograph even though he was just standing there.
Yeah I love going to concerts and vibing to live music, but I have no interest in ever meeting any musicians. They say never meet your heroes, and that seems to usually be the case.
It just sucks hearing about this stuff. You get your hopes up and then you're let down by someone who you thought the world of. You two are good people and I'm certain there are many more good people who walked away from situations like this feeling like their devotion never mattered.
Damn, I just noticed this in my feed, right as I'm trying to go to sleep. I have to get up early for work in the morning but I look forward to watching the video in it's entirety later on.
There are no truer words than, "never meet your heroes." My meeting Gene in the 90s destroyed my inner ten year old. It was not a particularly pleasant encounter.
Meet Ace, Gene and Peter at the Peabody hotel 1996 beginning of reunion. Although they all signed (FREE) Gene was the only one that carried on conversation with me! Peter was hanging onto his bodyguard and acted really fearful and yet there was only about ten people around!! Anyway it was a great memory made! Now for a total jerk The Police Reunion I meet the day after the show and I was actually staying at the Hotel (Ritz C. Saint Louis) Sting what a gentleman can’t say enough positive about him. Stewart stayed around me for ten minutes and he was a huge influence on me. Terrific guy so humble and nice. Andy Summers, total jerk he what the little man complex refers too!!!😂😂😂
Yes, I met Ace at a con about 12 yrs ago and he was miserable. He wasn't nasty to me personally but he made everyone wait over 2 hours because he refused to leave his room, he was mad at the venue for whatever reason. but he was rushing people and didnt make any small talk. I forgot what he charged. I think it was $50. I met Peter as well and he was a total sweetie and engaging. you can feel his enthusiasm. but Ace... not so much lol
It is what it is, some say 'never meet your hero's'. I worked for a major TV station in Canada in the 80s and a plethora of big name celebrities and musical artists came through during my time there. I can count on one hand the truly professional and amicable 'stars' who were fan-friendly and would take time to speak with their supporters. Keep in mind many of these icons of our past were most important to us during our formative years. They left an indelible memory upon our psyche and that is often the perspective from where we should admire them from.
Good video (and unfortunately true). I was at that Chiller Expo too and the Ace "drama" was ridiculous. We waited outside in line for six hours. People started getting angry over the un-organization and confusion of what was going on. "Ace lost the key to the room", "Ace might be leaving early" (after showing up an hour and a half late).. By the time I finally got to him, he was cranky and tired. I had only one item with me that needed his signature (to complete the original four), so in a strange sense it was worth it. But after that experience, I made the decision to finally be done with him. His recent albums aren't that great and his guitar playing skills have diminished too. I met him many times from the early to mid 90's and he was cool and somewhat sociable. But in recent years of meeting him, he just appears to be miserable, bitter and out of it. He's always very late too. At least Peter is very happy, social and upbeat when you meet him. Gene and Paul have always been cool to meet too. The young lady in the video was correct...."enable". I'm glad I found your video.
Paid for Aces meet and greet at the Arcada theater in st-charles Illinois and he was no prize very ungrateful for everything he's been given today in 2023 he's just as bad as Paul Stanley and when Peter Criss signed my tour book at Wizard World it was just the opposite very nice pleasant and Gene Simmons has always been nice for the most part two the fans
I met him several times it's Never super fun, However I Met him and Richie Scarlett in 92. Richie Scarlett is the Greatest Guy in Music and it was Amazing. I brought a Copy of Kiss Meets The Phantom Of The Park. Ace Didn't know it was Available he had a great time. He maybe was Drunk. Hehehe. I met him a few other times not great. It was def a job for him.
......and!! Wtf happened to the pricing from Celebrities at Horror conventions?!?! In my day......Celebs' never charged that much as it is now. But that's another discussion for later. 😮
Hey guys haven't seen you in a while what have you guys been up to I want to see u guys come to Michigan. and we can meet. and just talk for hours on music and I make a video with you guys in it with me. U guys rock keep up the great work
Met Peter before the Reunion Tour on the Bad Boys Tour in between sets December 16 1995 at the Sterling Room in Greenwood Lake went into the trailer with my brother we had beers and he was drinking a Heineken and was very happy talked about 10 minutes at the end group hug We were lucky he was in a great mood He probably knew the Reunion Tour was going to happen he knew the millions were about to roll in
Agree with some of your opinions for sure. Zakk Wylde said you have to always keep in mind as a rockstar that of course you're gonna forget who tf the person was you just met seconds after, but that fan is going to remember that moment for the rest of their life, so don't be a dick! But the money thing, it goes back to that old saying "laughing all the way to the bank". Why does Taylor Swift get over $10k for tickets? Cuz she can, it's all business once you reach that level. Any true Kiss fan knows, and even Gene quoted this name himself (while wearing his cap with the sparkly dollar signs on it)..."The Kiss Corporation". And people's personal feelings are not corporate agendas. They're all coming to the end of the road and they're all gonna grab whatever they possibly can. The best advice said in relation to all this , can't remember who quoted it but it was "don't ever meet your idol"....Words of widsom
I went to Chiller that weekend too, my first time and I thought the entire event was a little bit of a money grab. It was very cramped, and crowded and everything was MONEY...and cash only which was annoying. Didn't feel like a celebration at all, just "this cost this, etc." I went to a horror con (pre covid) a couple years ago and the vibe was completely different, much more enjoyable.
I’ve seen some of his prices for authenticated signatures on eBay and for that money, you’re better off just getting something off there. While you don’t get to “meet” him, you’ll sure save a lot of money and not have to pay extra for “stars” or personalizations
I LOVE early Kiss.. I LOVE Ace... That said, while the prices are indeed crazy, the dealers who were ONLY in it for the $$$$$ for decades kinda ruined it for everybody. Why allow the flippers to make all the money?? I'm just saying..
There once was a thing called 'Napster'. It's not cool Ace being a duche, but let's face it: I enjoy all of his music for the price of just one ticket when I saw him live in Argentina. From his POV, I'm a duche as well...
Meanwhile Angus Young from AC/DC signed autographs for fans that invaded his privacy in the Netherlands by ringing his doorbell. I've also seen fans hounding him when he's gone out for dinner (totally disrespectful behavior!) and despite his bodyguards' and managments advice not to entertain the pestering fans he did give them a few minutes and signed their shirts and albums anyway.
Ace's stage character was always my favorite, but he'd have to pay me to accept a pair of his used socks.... There sure are some shameless fans out there. On a different note, are you guys going to review Jerry Only's new solo album?
@@thewaxmuseum I thought some of it would've been pretty fun and listenable if he had Graves or someone else doing vocals, but as it stands... disappointed. That cover artwork sure is kool though.
First, Ace didn't play one lick on Creatures Of The Night, he hates that record, not as much as the Elder but he will probably prefer to sign the Elder because at least he played on it. Creatures was a REAL BAD TIME for Ace. That's why he said that to you and he's done it to others in front of me who wanted him to sign Creatures. Also, don't ask him to sign the Creatures tourbook unless he gets to do artwork on Vinnie Vincent's photos in the book!!
Glad I met the original guys before you had to pay for autographs!! Met G & P backstage before a show. Met Ace at a record store signing. Met Pete at a club. Got MANY autographs free aside from the club and concert admission!
Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. I've been lucky to have met a lot of cool famous Rockers. I met Gene when I was 15 and he was a jerk to my little brother who was so excited he didn't notice. There was a nice very cool follow up to the story but my little met Ace a few years later while roading for a band and hung out with him, came saying how cool he was. I Saw him last year before the show and he was cool but I did hear him tell one of his guitarists heading for the stage, Ok let's get this over with..lol I took it as him being a cranky old man..lol
Funny story- Paul's sister lives 3 min from me. She has some mental and physical health issues and so I'll grab her some groceries every now and then. One time she got Paul on the phone and she said, "Stanley! One of your biggest fans is here because he grabbed me some groceries!" and no shit he goes, "Ok, well anyway let me know if you'll be coming next month". Broke my heart.
Obviously something is wrong with Ace if he doesn't want to see your Tattoos, Amy!!!! I hear Brian Johnson and Michael Anthony are really nice to there fans, never heard any bad stories about them. These guys have all lost touch with reality. When Gene Simmons put out the Vault I just wanted the box I don't want to meet him , I would rather meet Shannon Tweed. Who the he'll would want to pay for Ace's dirty sox??? Whatever happened to the days when bands just put out music 🎶 and played shows!!!
It's complete exploration. It's disgusting, but the problem is as long as people are willing to pay whatever they ask there will be no end to it. Those people have more money than sense. But hey, if they want the autograph or photo or whatever that bad to pay crazy amounts, then have at it. Not me! I'll continue to enjoy the music and memories of good ol' days past. Today's BS of the exploration, no thanks! Good to see you guys as always! Hope all is well with you and you had a fun Halloween. 🤘🏻 ❤️
Ive said / thought the same thing, John Lennon who was a Jerk many times didn't sign autographs So when there is one on Ebay it goes for a crazy amount. Ive met only 2 people George Lynch & Michael Angelo Batio Both were Cool.
I just met ace in Houston looks like he was in a pretty good mood although you have to remember hes deaf i had to yell to talk to him even lara his girlfriend had to re say what i was saying 😹he talked a little bit to me and cracked a joke about me wearing a leather jacket because its hot and i told him yea but its a harley Davidson it looks good gotta look good for the ladies and he says yea but you cant if you have BO lol😹id say its a good meeting if lara is there. It was $500 and the whole meet lasted about 1 minute idk if it was worth it. I will say thoe id understand if he would be in a crappy mood after playing because i rocked out and my whole body hurts
Some rock guys are very good to their fans. Alice Cooper, Dee Snider, Ronnie Dio treated his fans like gold, there are musicians who smartly know where their bread is buttered.
That is surprising to hear this about Eric Singer. I was never as excited about him though know he is a great drummer. I never imagined him being that way. I love Peter and Ace as fans of KISS but would expect them to be that way moreso.
I love you guys your so right about all of the fuckers exploiting fans. I stopped being a fan after 16 years cause of what they are now.keep up the good work telling the truth your appreciated
I’m guessing Ace is angry because his career is reduced to doing small events and not being popular on a huge scale like his early days with KISS. KISS should’ve wrapped it up years ago and it’s the only platform that brings Ace any real attention and money. All of that talk about the fans they used to quote is easy to say when you’re on top of the charts, but the hard core fans that are there for you when you’re doing signings and playing small halls, they are the ones you should thank profusely. They’re willing to pay your ridiculous prices for your signature and you snub them. They bring you gifts and you don’t thank them? I’m surprised anyone shows up at all…First off, I wouldn’t pay anyone for their signature, I don’t care who it is. Aces fans deserve better than him. No doubt his style was the best sound for KISS, but to be fair he’s kind of a one trick pony in terms of guitar playing. Alright I’ve crapped on Ace enough. Lol And yes I know, he’s famous and I’m not…still don’t care. Other than his first solo album (the best of the four) the rest are a yawn fest for me. Ok…now I’m done. Lol
I used to be a die hard kiss fan. They are about as cool as Walmart these days. I stepped off after the box set. Just can’t do it anymore. Ever since the music industry collapsed. Bands instead of being grateful for their fans . They are like fuck em let’s milk em for all they are worth. 75 bucks for tshirts .
I have been a kiss fan since 1977. However, kiss members or members of any band are just people and wont get special treatment from me. I dont see them as gods.
i'm right there with you both. does Ace , not realize what min wage is these days ⁉it would take two or three pay checks to buy one of his signed items. i hate saying this cause he was always my fav kiss member and i will still listen to his music but every story i hear about him makes him look less and less impressive.😡😡
I think the problem is? Some of these guys shouldn't be doing the signings. If they hate it? Then they shouldn't do it. Kiss might force the guys who knows. Signing stuff? I get that the rock stars feel like powerless. People selling the stuff off for big money for example. They get jaded. The guys should not do it. I get if they charge $5,000 they will be your best friend or makes it easier for them to be "fake" nice. Karma will get these guys. Difference now is fans can talk and share and we all start to know what is going on. Before? Fans didn't know who was being a dick. Now fans can share the same story then we all realize? They are dicks. Nothing hiding in the dark. To counter your point? The guys feel like slaves. Like they have to sign the stuff and you can go flip it. So the sincerity of asking for an autograph isn't the same. I'm sure they feel used. Maybe they shouldn't assume but they rightfully will be jaded after a while. Last thing. Who knows. You think Ace has the brains to figure any of this out? Could be a lot to do with the manager. Oh Ace, you should be charging this because people can flip that guitar for 3x the price. You should sign it for XX amount. Managers role...
When KISS (Paul and Gene) have stated "It's all about the fans" they mean the rich fans that are willing to spend thousands for garbage merch 🥲 Imagine buying a smashed guitar... lol
if someone did buy the socks they should do a sock review on youtube bet they came with holes in them $4500 for a non hole pair this is why you should never meet your heros at the end of the day all they are is people with a job and you wouldnt catch me doing anything but check out their shows all that extra crap id never ever pay for that
GUYS, It's not ACE!!!!!!! It's his management that charges these crazy prices because they tell him that fans will PAY IT!!!!!!!! And guess what?? Most do, sadly. I did the Meet n Greet with Ace in Amsterdam back in 2015 on the Space Invader Tour, i got a sticker sheet, 3 picks , a large photo and the CD and the VIP pass. Then we went upstairs to meet Ace and he signed 5 things for me!! My Photo, Ego's at the stake LP, my Kiss 1977 Lunch box, solo picture Disc and the cd. Then it was photo time! And, he was nice to us. Price?? 350 Euros. I think his manager just desided to be more KISS-LIKE and just charge more. It's a shame, but it is what it is.
Never meet your heroes! Peter is really the only interesting one of the bunch. Really, meeting them on the rise up in 76-78 would have been the best time if there was a best time. Now the Kiss legacy has been driven into the ground. Unfortunately! Ace has had some questionable public and performance issues. So that leaves us with Peter having kept himself low keyed, and.in my opinion with the most dignity.
Okay guy, stop being so over dramatic. $1,000 for an Autographed Guitar seems pretty fair actually. You know how much Guitars alone cost? And then Ace is signing it bumping up its value even more. I mean if you really want his autograph and not pay a lot why not the $50 autographed pictures? Try learning a bit about market value dawg.
the $1000 is just for him to sign it...it doesn't include the guitar. I'm fully aware of what guitars cost I own 10 of them,but paying $1000 just for someone to scribble on one of them is insane,if that seems fair to you then go right ahead and throw the money away...I'm gonna pass. I'm all for people making money but when some fans have to miss out just because the price is beyond ridiculous,I have a problem with that. I watched a lot of people who are legit diehard fans walk away because of those prices and that's sad,dawg.
Ace does have a chip on his shoulder, he's bitter and money Hungry cause hes down to only 1 million (peter has more) and ace doesnt deserve a career anymore.
Sorry - although I have 0 access to what Ace is worth - from ALL I have read he has at least 15 million net worth. He still gets insane money from KISS even though he did sell off part of his % of the band. Claiming Ace Frehley is worth $1 million is entertainingly hilarious. Made me laugh.
Ace is a con man just like Paul and Gene, he learned from the best. Ace should be more kind especially since Eddie Van Halen played his earliest solos on demos and Ace copied them. Ace never talks about that. Yes, Most of Aces earliest solos were written by Eddie.
Eric Carr would have never acted that way.
I’m going to sell all my Kiss shit. It’s time to get the money back that they extorted from me all these years.
She made an excellent point about them having plenty of money. They're not about the fans it's about getting more money.
I met Ace at Rock & Shock in 2011. Although he wasn’t rude or nasty to me, he did give the impression that he didn’t want to be there. But afterwards I was talking to my friend and Ace passed us and he did say hello to me
Good stories. I love KISS, but I'm glad I never met any of them. I'm thinking Bruce Kulick may be great with fans.
If Ace wanted $1000 for an autograph , I would be tempted to ask him to sign a photo of Tommy Thayer.
I met Bruce and he was the kindest member of the band I ever met
I met Bruce and he’s a great guy. Very down to earth.
I don't understand why people still want to meet these guys, they sound like complete nasty narcissists. Anyway there are lots better rock music than Kiss too.
Eric Carr was the nicest when I met him on his last tour. I also had good experiences with Eric Singer on the Revenge tour and on a KISS Kruise. Gene was pretty cool and Paul has been hit and miss for me. Peter Criss was kind of a dick and I've never met Ace which is probably a good thing.
I never thought he was so mean. A friend of mine met Paul McCartney at the airport, and he was the total opposite. He was nice and friendly, and took the time to speak with my friend. He did not agree to a photo though, but he wasn`t rude or anything. He just said he preferred to sit there and talk and apologized. But he signed an autograph and spoke to my friend for at least ten minutes before he had to go to catch his flight. My friend was not a Paul McCartney fan before that meeting, but is a huge fan now.
I was, thankfully, never huge on autographs. I have probably lost/thrown away more than I actually still have. The growing con circuit and the ridiculous increase in prices has basically put me in "nah" territory. Jerry Only, at small club Misfits shows, signed for any and everybody for free. That man always treated fans well in my experience. I wish more people subscribed to his m.o.
My family always buy me autograph crap I hate it. I was given a Ric Flair autograph
Boots Steven Tyler autograph and I don't even like Aerosmith like that lost in my home somewhere
Whats ironic is that in most interviews Ace brings up Gene or Paul and how its “all about the money for them” and then mentions some of the crazy KISS items like toilet paper and caskets. Then he turns around and tries to sell a pair of dirty socks for 3500 bucks and charges you extra to draw a damn star next to his autograph. Ace is by far my favorite member of KISS. I love his solo stuff, the Frehleys Comet stuff, cant wait for his next album but based on what ive seen at signings and from what ive read about peoples encounters i might would pass on a meet and greet. Then again ive heard ppl mention they met him on the street and he was as nice as could be
I've met most of the members of Kiss. Eric Carr was by far the coolest of them all.
im NOT surprised, shows you who the Liar is. I Never met them but back in 1995 I went to go see ACE & Peter on their solo tour
before the reunion. Saratoga NY & we waited for almost 2 Hours! for them to come out on Stage.
A Roadie came on stage to adjust something & the crowd cheered, The guys smiles & waves.
I mentioned it in my Ace Video. after hearing these stories I will Never go to meet him. id rather meet Andy & Amy seriously : )
Kiss is my favorite band for 47 years
Since I was 8 years old
I met Ace in the 80's and was so disappointed he was still out of it on something and he did signing for free at record store and he laughed at the picture I had him sign because he said I don't remember that photo shoot I must have been wasted he was my hero and that just sucked
I saw him last tour w Alice cooper and Ace just really sucked took my son and he was not impressed at All
He loves Alice cooper and we met Alice cooper previously and he was the nicest person we Ever met me my wife and son
There's a difference between the legendary Alice cooper and the drugged out alcoholic Ace
I love the original kiss more than Anything but no respect for fans
I've met Gene he was cordial
Met Bruce and he was super nice
All musicians need to realize how they got where they are
They have talent and have worked hard but you'd be no where without us
Sorry you had a similar experience
Kind of unfair to compare any rock star to ALICE…he’s pretty much considered the nicest guy in the business. I’m super proud to be a fan about fifty years now.
Right on!! Thanks for sharing your stories about meeting these guys and it's good to see you both back.
Videos like this are the exact reason why I never want to meet Ace. I know I would be disappointed.
Hey great to see you on here (and when I run into you at Chiller!), with a perfect topic that has been on many minds lately! Yes, not only is his pricing ridiculous, and treatment of the fans rediculous, you forgot to even mention the hours and hours people waited on line while he was either signing for the VIP prepaid buyers or taking a break! We had a friend go through it and was sorry he did! There was a lot of posts about how rude he was and the pricing, too many to cover here. I've been selling off the Ace collection for years as my interest had waned with the way he treated me, but this just adds to it, and more and more people are sharing their stories. I would never give him another penny or second of my time. I truly appreciate the Chiller guests that are reasonable and happy to meet a fan! See you next show!
I saw u both there Friday I waited in line for 2 hours and he was 2 hours late. I was like screw this... I walked
Heard Eric Carr was a good guy who always made time for his fans, Bruce is good people too
My wife and I had the same exact experience with Eric Singer at a KISS Expo in NJ. He was signing his photo like a robot, head down, not even looking at the fans in line, signed one photo pushed it to the fan in line, signed the next photo, pushed it to the next fan, head down the entire time. My wife grabbed the photo walked away and threw it in the trash. Alternately, we met John Regan at the same KISS Expo and he was one of the nicest guys ever.
That’s where anything Cheater Criss has done belongs !
John regan was a great guy. I met him at a philly kiss expo
Wow Eric singer was super nice to me when I met him 23 years ago at an expo
I didnt know there were extra prices for the stars/planets drawings 😱
Someday I'm going to one of these signings and I'm going to pay for him to sign Shock Me on a CD for ten or fifteen bucks. I won't pay to have him sign his name.
When Revenge came out Kiss went on a promotional tour of small clubs. They played about an hour and then signed autographs. The local show I got to go to was put on by a radio station and I won tickets. We were told they'd sign autographs but not told that it would be one autograph from one band member. I got Paul to sign my Double Platinum and while waiting for my friend to get a Gene autograph, I thought I'd try to get an Eric since his line was short and at this point nobody was in it. He refused pointing out that I got my one autograph even though he was just standing there.
Yeah I love going to concerts and vibing to live music, but I have no interest in ever meeting any musicians. They say never meet your heroes, and that seems to usually be the case.
All the bands I listen too have always been great people never no douches and that's why I love death metal.
It just sucks hearing about this stuff. You get your hopes up and then you're let down by someone who you thought the world of. You two are good people and I'm certain there are many more good people who walked away from situations like this feeling like their devotion never mattered.
Damn, I just noticed this in my feed, right as I'm trying to go to sleep. I have to get up early for work in the morning but I look forward to watching the video in it's entirety later on.
There are no truer words than, "never meet your heroes." My meeting Gene in the 90s destroyed my inner ten year old. It was not a particularly pleasant encounter.
What happened when you met Gene?
Hey you guys haven't done videos in a while glad to see you back on here ready for that creatures of the night box set take care
Meet Ace, Gene and Peter at the Peabody hotel 1996 beginning of reunion. Although they all signed (FREE) Gene was the only one that carried on conversation with me! Peter was hanging onto his bodyguard and acted really fearful and yet there was only about ten people around!! Anyway it was a great memory made!
Now for a total jerk The Police Reunion I meet the day after the show and I was actually staying at the Hotel (Ritz C. Saint Louis) Sting what a gentleman can’t say enough positive about him. Stewart stayed around me for ten minutes and he was a huge influence on me. Terrific guy so humble and nice. Andy Summers, total jerk he what the little man complex refers too!!!😂😂😂
Yes, I met Ace at a con about 12 yrs ago and he was miserable. He wasn't nasty to me personally but he made everyone wait over 2 hours because he refused to leave his room, he was mad at the venue for whatever reason. but he was rushing people and didnt make any small talk. I forgot what he charged. I think it was $50. I met Peter as well and he was a total sweetie and engaging. you can feel his enthusiasm. but Ace... not so much lol
She does a hilarious spot on impersonation of Ace! 😂
It is what it is, some say 'never meet your hero's'. I worked for a major TV station in Canada in the 80s and a plethora of big name celebrities and musical artists came through during my time there. I can count on one hand the truly professional and amicable 'stars' who were fan-friendly and would take time to speak with their supporters. Keep in mind many of these icons of our past were most important to us during our formative years. They left an indelible memory upon our psyche and that is often the perspective from where we should admire them from.
Dont waste your life worshiping idols...even the idols know its a waste of time.
Good video (and unfortunately true). I was at that Chiller Expo too and the Ace "drama" was ridiculous. We waited outside in line for six hours. People started getting angry over the un-organization and confusion of what was going on. "Ace lost the key to the room", "Ace might be leaving early" (after showing up an hour and a half late).. By the time I finally got to him, he was cranky and tired. I had only one item with me that needed his signature (to complete the original four), so in a strange sense it was worth it. But after that experience, I made the decision to finally be done with him. His recent albums aren't that great and his guitar playing skills have diminished too. I met him many times from the early to mid 90's and he was cool and somewhat sociable. But in recent years of meeting him, he just appears to be miserable, bitter and out of it. He's always very late too. At least Peter is very happy, social and upbeat when you meet him. Gene and Paul have always been cool to meet too. The young lady in the video was correct...."enable". I'm glad I found your video.
Paid for Aces meet and greet at the Arcada theater in st-charles Illinois and he was no prize very ungrateful for everything he's been given today in 2023 he's just as bad as Paul Stanley and when Peter Criss signed my tour book at Wizard World it was just the opposite very nice pleasant and Gene Simmons has always been nice for the most part two the fans
I met him several times it's Never super fun, However I Met him and Richie Scarlett in 92. Richie Scarlett is the Greatest Guy in Music and it was Amazing. I brought a Copy of Kiss Meets The Phantom Of The Park. Ace Didn't know it was Available he had a great time. He maybe was Drunk. Hehehe. I met him a few other times not great. It was def a job for him.
......and!! Wtf happened to the pricing from Celebrities at Horror conventions?!?! In my day......Celebs' never charged that much as it is now. But that's another discussion for later. 😮
Hey guys haven't seen you in a while what have you guys been up to I want to see u guys come to Michigan. and we can meet. and just talk for hours on music and I make a video with you guys in it with me. U guys rock keep up the great work
I've felt the same way for years,they will never get another dollar from me...
Meeting ace in a week I’ll let you know how it goes lol
How did it go?
How did it go? lol
Met Peter before the Reunion Tour on the Bad Boys Tour in between sets December 16 1995 at the Sterling Room in Greenwood Lake went into the trailer with my brother we had beers and he was drinking a Heineken and was very happy talked about 10 minutes at the end group hug We were lucky he was in a great mood He probably knew the Reunion Tour was going to happen he knew the millions were about to roll in
Agree with some of your opinions for sure. Zakk Wylde said you have to always keep in mind as a rockstar that of course you're gonna forget who tf the person was you just met seconds after, but that fan is going to remember that moment for the rest of their life, so don't be a dick! But the money thing, it goes back to that old saying "laughing all the way to the bank". Why does Taylor Swift get over $10k for tickets? Cuz she can, it's all business once you reach that level. Any true Kiss fan knows, and even Gene quoted this name himself (while wearing his cap with the sparkly dollar signs on it)..."The Kiss Corporation". And people's personal feelings are not corporate agendas. They're all coming to the end of the road and they're all gonna grab whatever they possibly can.
The best advice said in relation to all this , can't remember who quoted it but it was "don't ever meet your idol"....Words of widsom
I went to Chiller that weekend too, my first time and I thought the entire event was a little bit of a money grab. It was very cramped, and crowded and everything was MONEY...and cash only which was annoying. Didn't feel like a celebration at all, just "this cost this, etc." I went to a horror con (pre covid) a couple years ago and the vibe was completely different, much more enjoyable.
I’ve seen some of his prices for authenticated signatures on eBay and for that money, you’re better off just getting something off there. While you don’t get to “meet” him, you’ll sure save a lot of money and not have to pay extra for “stars” or personalizations
I LOVE early Kiss.. I LOVE Ace... That said, while the prices are indeed crazy, the dealers who were ONLY in it for the $$$$$ for decades kinda ruined it for everybody. Why allow the flippers to make all the money?? I'm just saying..
There once was a thing called 'Napster'.
It's not cool Ace being a duche, but let's face it: I enjoy all of his music for the price of just one ticket when I saw him live in Argentina.
From his POV, I'm a duche as well...
Ace taking a page out of Vinnie Vincent's website. Charge crazy prices and hope the suckers bite
Meanwhile Angus Young from AC/DC signed autographs for fans that invaded his privacy in the Netherlands by ringing his doorbell. I've also seen fans hounding him when he's gone out for dinner (totally disrespectful behavior!) and despite his bodyguards' and managments advice not to entertain the pestering fans he did give them a few minutes and signed their shirts and albums anyway.
Ace has always been a crook.
Met him a few times and had the same experinece... Peter was awesome when I met him tho, super down to earth..
Ace's stage character was always my favorite, but he'd have to pay me to accept a pair of his used socks.... There sure are some shameless fans out there. On a different note, are you guys going to review Jerry Only's new solo album?
Probably Not 😉 I'm sure there's a few reviews of it out there tho, did you like it?
@@thewaxmuseum I thought some of it would've been pretty fun and listenable if he had Graves or someone else doing vocals, but as it stands... disappointed. That cover artwork sure is kool though.
First, Ace didn't play one lick on Creatures Of The Night, he hates that record, not
as much as the Elder but he will probably prefer to sign the Elder because at least
he played on it. Creatures was a REAL BAD TIME for Ace. That's why he said that to you
and he's done it to others in front of me who wanted him to sign Creatures.
Also, don't ask him to sign the Creatures tourbook unless he gets to do artwork on
Vinnie Vincent's photos in the book!!
Glad I met the original guys before you had to pay for autographs!! Met G & P backstage before a show. Met Ace at a record store signing. Met Pete at a club. Got MANY autographs free aside from the club and concert admission!
Never meet your heroes, you'll be disappointed.
Very well said!
You guys are Great
Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. I've been lucky to have met a lot of cool famous Rockers. I met Gene when I was 15 and he was a jerk to my little brother who was so excited he didn't notice. There was a nice very cool follow up to the story but my little met Ace a few years later while roading for a band and hung out with him, came saying how cool he was. I Saw him last year before the show and he was cool but I did hear him tell one of his guitarists heading for the stage, Ok let's get this over with..lol I took it as him being a cranky old man..lol
Amy beautiful as always
Ace is obviously broke. Or this petty tier pricing wouldn’t be a thing
Funny story- Paul's sister lives 3 min from me. She has some mental and physical health issues and so I'll grab her some groceries every now and then. One time she got Paul on the phone and she said, "Stanley! One of your biggest fans is here because he grabbed me some groceries!" and no shit he goes, "Ok, well anyway let me know if you'll be coming next month". Broke my heart.
Obviously something is wrong with Ace if he doesn't want to see your Tattoos, Amy!!!! I hear Brian Johnson and Michael Anthony are really nice to there fans, never heard any bad stories about them. These guys have all lost touch with reality. When Gene Simmons put out the Vault I just wanted the box I don't want to meet him , I would rather meet Shannon Tweed. Who the he'll would want to pay for Ace's dirty sox??? Whatever happened to the days when bands just put out music 🎶 and played shows!!!
It's complete exploration. It's disgusting, but the problem is as long as people are willing to pay whatever they ask there will be no end to it. Those people have more money than sense. But hey, if they want the autograph or photo or whatever that bad to pay crazy amounts, then have at it. Not me! I'll continue to enjoy the music and memories of good ol' days past. Today's BS of the exploration, no thanks! Good to see you guys as always! Hope all is well with you and you had a fun Halloween. 🤘🏻 ❤️
Ive said / thought the same thing, John Lennon who was a Jerk many times didn't sign autographs So when there is one on Ebay it goes for a crazy amount.
Ive met only 2 people George Lynch & Michael Angelo Batio Both were Cool.
I just met ace in Houston looks like he was in a pretty good mood although you have to remember hes deaf i had to yell to talk to him even lara his girlfriend had to re say what i was saying 😹he talked a little bit to me and cracked a joke about me wearing a leather jacket because its hot and i told him yea but its a harley Davidson it looks good gotta look good for the ladies and he says yea but you cant if you have BO lol😹id say its a good meeting if lara is there. It was $500 and the whole meet lasted about 1 minute idk if it was worth it. I will say thoe id understand if he would be in a crappy mood after playing because i rocked out and my whole body hurts
Some rock guys are very good to their fans. Alice Cooper, Dee Snider, Ronnie Dio treated his fans like gold, there are musicians who smartly know where their bread is buttered.
That is surprising to hear this about Eric Singer. I was never as excited about him though know he is a great drummer. I never imagined him being that way. I love Peter and Ace as fans of KISS but would expect them to be that way moreso.
Ace always gave a fuck to the fans. Alcohol was more important than the fans and the music.
I love you guys your so right about all of the fuckers exploiting fans. I stopped being a fan after 16 years cause of what they are now.keep up the good work telling the truth your appreciated
I’m guessing Ace is angry because his career is reduced to doing small events and not being popular on a huge scale like his early days with KISS. KISS should’ve wrapped it up years ago and it’s the only platform that brings Ace any real attention and money. All of that talk about the fans they used to quote is easy to say when you’re on top of the charts, but the hard core fans that are there for you when you’re doing signings and playing small halls, they are the ones you should thank profusely. They’re willing to pay your ridiculous prices for your signature and you snub them. They bring you gifts and you don’t thank them? I’m surprised anyone shows up at all…First off, I wouldn’t pay anyone for their signature, I don’t care who it is. Aces fans deserve better than him. No doubt his style was the best sound for KISS, but to be fair he’s kind of a one trick pony in terms of guitar playing. Alright I’ve crapped on Ace enough. Lol And yes I know, he’s famous and I’m not…still don’t care. Other than his first solo album (the best of the four) the rest are a yawn fest for me. Ok…now I’m done. Lol
same experience here.
they might have deep pockets but they have small minds
I used to be a die hard kiss fan. They are about as cool as Walmart these days. I stepped off after the box set. Just can’t do it anymore. Ever since the music industry collapsed. Bands instead of being grateful for their fans . They are like fuck em let’s milk em for all they are worth. 75 bucks for tshirts .
I have been a kiss fan since 1977. However, kiss members or members of any band are just people and wont get special treatment from me. I dont see them as gods.
i'm right there with you both. does Ace , not realize what min wage is these days ⁉it would take two or three pay checks to buy one of his signed items. i hate saying this cause he was always my fav kiss member and i will still listen to his music but every story i hear about him makes him look less and less impressive.😡😡
I think the problem is? Some of these guys shouldn't be doing the signings. If they hate it? Then they shouldn't do it. Kiss might force the guys who knows. Signing stuff? I get that the rock stars feel like powerless. People selling the stuff off for big money for example. They get jaded. The guys should not do it. I get if they charge $5,000 they will be your best friend or makes it easier for them to be "fake" nice. Karma will get these guys. Difference now is fans can talk and share and we all start to know what is going on. Before? Fans didn't know who was being a dick. Now fans can share the same story then we all realize? They are dicks. Nothing hiding in the dark. To counter your point? The guys feel like slaves. Like they have to sign the stuff and you can go flip it. So the sincerity of asking for an autograph isn't the same. I'm sure they feel used. Maybe they shouldn't assume but they rightfully will be jaded after a while. Last thing. Who knows. You think Ace has the brains to figure any of this out? Could be a lot to do with the manager. Oh Ace, you should be charging this because people can flip that guitar for 3x the price. You should sign it for XX amount. Managers role...
When KISS (Paul and Gene) have stated "It's all about the fans" they mean the rich fans that are willing to spend thousands for garbage merch 🥲 Imagine buying a smashed guitar... lol
I was a huge Ace growing up. Met Ace at Crilley's Circle Tavern when I turned 21 1994ish. He was drunk and a complete shitbag. What a let down it was.
Ace gonna sell his used unwashed under wear with a skid mark for $10k
if someone did buy the socks they should do a sock review on youtube bet they came with holes in them $4500 for a non hole pair this is why you should never meet your heros at the end of the day all they are is people with a job and you wouldnt catch me doing anything but check out their shows all that extra crap id never ever pay for that
GUYS, It's not ACE!!!!!!! It's his management that charges these crazy prices
because they tell him that fans will PAY IT!!!!!!!! And guess what?? Most do, sadly.
I did the Meet n Greet with Ace in Amsterdam back in 2015 on the Space Invader
Tour, i got a sticker sheet, 3 picks , a large photo and the CD and the VIP pass.
Then we went upstairs to meet Ace and he signed 5 things for me!!
My Photo, Ego's at the stake LP, my Kiss 1977 Lunch box, solo picture Disc and
the cd. Then it was photo time! And, he was nice to us. Price?? 350 Euros. I think his manager just desided to
be more KISS-LIKE and just charge more. It's a shame, but it is what it is.
Yeah but come on guys! He has got to buy his coke later on, be reasonable......
Kiss , the kings of extortion
Eric Carr was the only real person that was ever in the band...
Never meet your heroes!
Peter is really the only interesting one of the bunch.
Really, meeting them on the rise up in 76-78 would have been the best time if there was a best time. Now the Kiss legacy has been driven into the ground. Unfortunately! Ace has had some questionable public and performance issues. So that leaves us with Peter having kept himself low keyed, and.in my opinion with the most dignity.
Ace is crazy. Not "rock star crazy", either.
He's delusional and in his own world.
Always has been, always will be.
But....he's Ace!!!!!!!!!
It's sad that Gene's attitude has sort of infected everything and everyone around KISS. All about $$$ and milking fans for the maximum amount.
Okay guy, stop being so over dramatic. $1,000 for an Autographed Guitar seems pretty fair actually. You know how much Guitars alone cost? And then Ace is signing it bumping up its value even more. I mean if you really want his autograph and not pay a lot why not the $50 autographed pictures? Try learning a bit about market value dawg.
the $1000 is just for him to sign it...it doesn't include the guitar. I'm fully aware of what guitars cost I own 10 of them,but paying $1000 just for someone to scribble on one of them is insane,if that seems fair to you then go right ahead and throw the money away...I'm gonna pass. I'm all for people making money but when some fans have to miss out just because the price is beyond ridiculous,I have a problem with that. I watched a lot of people who are legit diehard fans walk away because of those prices and that's sad,dawg.
Ace does have a chip on his shoulder, he's bitter and money Hungry cause hes down to only 1 million (peter has more) and ace doesnt deserve a career anymore.
Sorry - although I have 0 access to what Ace is worth - from ALL I have read he has at least 15 million net worth. He still gets insane money from KISS even though he did sell off part of his % of the band. Claiming Ace Frehley is worth $1 million is entertainingly hilarious. Made me laugh.
I agree Ace doesn't deserve it
Ace is a con man just like Paul and Gene, he learned from the best. Ace should be more kind especially since Eddie Van Halen played his earliest solos on demos and Ace copied them. Ace never talks about that. Yes, Most of Aces earliest solos were written by Eddie.
I guess if you've spent years dealing with Gene & Paul, you could really become a good con-man.. lol
these rock stars are a joke
Look, I love Ace. Always have. But his lateness, pissy attitude and general behavior lead me to believe he is not now, nor has ever been sober.
Be a fan of yourself...Being a fan of another person or a god ..Will always disappoint..