just scored a silver stripe for 70 bucks. that thing is absolutely killer, turning into my new favorite amp. the gain channel really impresses me, ultra responsive and ballsy, a strat really brings out the upper-range growl of the sheffield
The silver stripe sounded louder & clearer, both sound great. I Just got a used fairly rare USA Red stripe with Sheffield speaker & pointy logo. Love it.
Great video, I'm so glad to see I actually prefer the Silver Stripe (which I have)! Too bad my lead channel broke this week, I'll get it fixed ASAP instead of looking for a new one.
Hey Shane! Loved the video. I was actually lucky enough to pick up a Teal Stripe Bandit about a month ago, and I got a Red Stripe today, each for $50 Canadian! I really love the sound of the red stripe.
Listening thousands of miles away in California, lol, the silver is my preference, although both are nice amps. I've been thinking of picking up a silver stripe lately. Probably will. Thank you for all the hard work you do for us out here.
Just bought a silver stripe Bandit here in the UK for £20! What a bargain! It still sounds absolutely fantastic. Thanks for the great demo mate, even after all this time your old vids rule!
I play over the silverstripe for over 22 years with an extra 12 inch h/k cabinet for a Better sound spread, this duo served me good playing in a seme-pro band! Never had any problem! Happy me! 😊
I just picked up a silver stripe with a Sheffield from a private online seller for $150 CAN, couldn't be more pleased! Your great demos nudged me into getting one!
@@alainbrisebois8334 My pots are perfect, no scratchy sounds at all :) $80 is a steal! I'm guessing that you bought it either from a drug addict or a woman ;-)
I am a fan of the scorpion/ teal Peavey's. those meaty speakers just sound so nice. Distortion was awesome on my teal peavey and just seemed like peavey upped their game in the early 90's
Checking out all your vids on the inexpensive Peavey Bandit and some others on Fender Deluxe Reverb RI. Just hankering for an inexpensive practive amp,,, don't need one just trying to push back the GAS. Poster collection has come a long way... looking good.
Hi Shane, just bought a Peavey bandit 112 transtube silverstripe with the shefield speaker in as new condition for £89 British pounds. Just got to collect it and play that puppy...can't wait to see what sound I can get out of it, your demo has given me a lot more confidence now as this was an instinctive choice. I have several guitars including Gibson SG standard, Les paul studio, fender strat elite...and my favourite of all is my Peavet T60 78 model in ash and mint condition. cheers
Good video. Amps like this (I would also include the Roland Cube series and the Tech21TM60 among others) show that great sounding amps are not mutually exclusive to tube amps.
I like the mic placement in this 1. More accurate representation of real conditions. For myself I'm with you on that 1 point, that is pickup whatever 1's cheaper or you just like. Close enough not to need 2 of them.
I just scored a USA red stripe last night and it’s a bit better to my ear than the silver stripe I also own. Both have a Sheffield installed. Got a Texas Heat on the way for the Red Stripe!!! Thanks for your vids!
Those are two of the most amazing amps I have ever heard (tube or solid state),with or without pedals.I wonder if the size of the cabinet affects volume?Are the Chinese made still Heartily Peavey designs? Man,he has a gift for electrical designs!!!
played bandits during the 80's ,65watts ,Sheffield speakers had 2 of them mostly only needed one. large rooms both one on either side of the stage not really stereo never a problem. they are a great amp keep going on and on.
That was a good comparison. I've owned a couple of Bandits over the years and I prefer the silver stripe. I haven't had a 'new' one tho so I'm looking forward to the 4 Bandit shoot out. 👍
that 112 silver stripe is an underrated gem, i got one from 95’/96’ usa made it’s practically bombproof and does everything i could ever ask from an amp
*YES!!!!! ROOM MIKING FTW!!! THANK YOU!!!* :D :D :D @intheblues, Shane, I know this is a bit of a long message, but if you could be so kind, please take the time to read it. :) I'm sorry to say, but I hate, and I mean HATE close miking with a passion. Thank you SO much for beginning to hear the difference for yourself, while trying room miking for a change. This video sounded SOOOOOO much better in comparison! The difference in tonality is like night and day. Just no comparison whatsoever. Thank you! Thank you! :) Close miking just sounds so tonally flat, compressed, and unnatural-sounding. It lacks dynamics and a TON of natural overtones are lost because the microphone is being overloaded from being placed so close to the speaker. More importantly, the extreme short distance between the microphone and the speaker of close miking doesn't allow all the harmonics and overtones to fully bloom in the way it does at a normal listening distance between the speaker and your ear when playing guitar at a normal playing distance. So much is lost because of this. And while this next thing may not apply specifically to the Bandit with its single speaker, I laugh and shudder whenever someone close mics a speaker cabinet with two or more speakers in it especially. It's like, "Let's mic ONE speaker...and NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR ANY OF THE OTHER ONES!" Yeah, that's a great idea! NOT! lol I laugh at this logic because all you can get is the sound of the ONE SPEAKER you are recording! The problem with close miking just one speaker (in addition to all the other tonal downsides to it) is that each speaker interacts with each other and comes together to create a different tone because of those interactions. In addition to cabinet volume, this is the reason why cabinets with 2, 4, or 8 speakers in them (in the case of a full stack) sound different! And if you only mic one speaker, you will NEVER hear that interaction, nor can you hear the sound of the cabinet that also makes up a part of the tone. Close miking can never, and I mean NEVER capture that. Room miking is just simply a MUCH more natural sound because it is not being compressed by the high pressure sound levels of close miking, and it allows for full dynamics, harmonics, and complex overtones to be picked up because a speaker isn't pounding it to death within inches of it. Essentially, room miking is what we naturally hear WHILE NORMALLY PLAYING GUITAR IN A ROOM AND LISTENING WITH OUR OWN EARS! Go figure, huh? lol The tones we hear in-room or onstage with our own ears is EVERYTHING that drives us towards getting better tone, so why would anyone want to close mic an amp and lose all of the tone that got you to that moment in the first place? lol It just doesn't make sense. Anyway, that's my close mic rant for the day. lol I hope you didn't mind, and I hope you agree to some extent, because the sound of this video was just SO much better! Continue to room mic all your videos from now on! It just sounds so much better! Again, thanks for doing this, Shane. Cheers! :) P.S. Oh, and BTW, I liked the sound of both Bandits for different reasons. I think if you could run them into a cab loaded with a Texas Heat speaker and a Sheffield speaker in it, it would sound amazing. Both speakers have their good qualities for sure. :)
I agree with this whole heartedly. Recording with a room mike at the very least two feet away from the cab. It's only a couple of milliseconds of delay. Nothing anyone would notice.
Hi, Shane. Nice comparison! I was looking at the schematic of both amps and they are basically the same, the biggest improvement is the channel switching, which is Jfet based on the Red Stripe vs relay switching on the Silver Stripe. Bet they sound almost identical through the same speaker. I'm curious to see (hear actually) how the newer chinese (Cyclop / Codpiece) Bandit compares against the older brothers. Would you mind also throw in some high gain / heavy riffs when doing so? Keep on rocking, bro!
Because of your videos, I scored a silver stripe for 80€ last friday. I have been shocked when comparing it to my upgraded HRD (paid 10 times this price for it)... Cleans are almost as good (tone stack is in fact more effective), and lead channel is great! Together in Stereo it´s heaven... How did this old and cheap SS went so "unnoticed" these past years? Tube snobbery maybe, belief that a great tone comes with a big price tag, who knows? I will never thank you enough for pointing this one to me!
"How did this old and cheap SS went so "unnoticed" these past years?" Come up out of your Mom's basement once in a while. The PV 112 is one of the most iconic amps of the last 30 years.
maybe in the US, but not here in France. in fact the ones we have here are made in the UK. notice I said 80€. if you were out of your basement more often, you would know the whole world is not your neighborhood. For instance, here we have something called "education" that motivates people to be nice to each other.
The silver stripe reminds me the Peavey classic series,more "vintage alive sound"..But the red stripe has more smooth sound and more bottom end...Play the 2 amps at the same time maybe great!And Shane ,you're absolutely right for you're new "mic systeme"it represent more the reality
i just bought a Red line 100 watt amp i love it better then my tube amp it is the last USA bandit that they made i used A TC electronics Fang disortion pedal it sonds amazing i bought this amp for 130 dollars. on crages list its the best 130 dallors i have ever spent it just fits all my needs i am verry happy. i have played tube amps my hole life and i wish i would have known about these amps a long time ago thank to peavey i finnaly found a sound that i can live with i havent used my ME 70 Boss pedal borad yet but i know it will sound amazing i dont know to much about the new ones but i love my Red stripe peace out from PaT Romero
Also Shane, if you could score a silver stripe special 212 and demo one that would be something right there. I say the silver stripe as apposed to the red because it actually has 3 channels separate EQ for all channels being the 3rd has an active EQ does 130 watts with internal speakers and 220 watts with extension speakers added. Should cover any situation and dare I say all you need in one amp minus pedals of course!
Dial up the low end mud on the silver!!! I clean that up with an MXR 10 band hooked up via the pre out and back in to power amp in. Works a treat and the tube break up simulation really comes through
I have played through several different styles of Peavey Bandits, both transtubes and non-transtube, and to me they are all voiced similarly. I play a lot of metal and hard rock, and to me the newest model of the Bandit has a slight advantage on those types of tones. But you are good with any model. They all sound similar to me.
Iv had vintage Marshall s / fender twins, Orange ad30 ect. But I still think the best sound I ever got was with the silver bandit years ago. Good times.
I think the Sheffield speaker would cut better in a band mix, but the Texas Heat woulds sound more pleasing playing alone. I would have loved to see this comparison with the stock speaker in both amps, because I want to buy a Bandit, but I'm not sure about Silver, Red or the current production model.
Gee, how easy would it have been to swap the speakers from amp to amp, to clarify whether the obvious difference in sound is due to the speaker or the amp?
I use to have peavey silver stripe have great clean now I found but a that time I was to play blues but more overdrive sound ,but the speaker in silver strip was in peavey 5150 Create to Eddy Van Halen sound like celestion speaker Nice video Shane!
Great video! I like the silver stripe a bit more. The room mic is a good idea, but you should bring it a bit closer, there is to much room sound in this video. Cheers :)
The Sheffield speaker sounds more present and dynamic. The Texas Heat has a too small magnet (high Qts factor value) and sounds therefore boomy and flat.
Extremely late to this party, but I just scored the red stripe 212 Special (essentially a 212 red stripe Bandit with a third channel) with Sheffield speakers. Also have the exact silver stripe Bandit that you're playing here. As if my neighbors didn't already hate me...
I love your Peavey bandit vids, I have the teal stripe with a Patriot Red, White & Blue speaker I'd love to see some comparisons with the teal stripe and your thoughts on it
Red Stripe has more low-end punch. (that I really like) Although it makes it a little “muddy sounding” it kinda needs low-end punch to hold its own when up next to a tube amp. The Silver Stripe has more of an open sound to it, that can sound a bit thin up against a tube amp. Although it maintains clarity, just at a cost. With SS Amps there always some sort of compromise that has to be made. For band use the low-end punch from the Red-Stripe is much needed, without it you can get lost, especially when high-gain levels are introduced.
I bought a silver stripe for $175 in great shape turned it into a head it blows away a dsl20h I got that's now on the chopping block through my marshall cab sounds great I think the lows are huge on the silver strip if you were to adjust the knobs you would achieve unity they clean up on the guitar really well
Hi, Shane. Thanks for video, man. For its flexibility and low price, I'll add the Bandit to my gear. Do you have plans on making a video comparing both Red and Silver Stripe to the new Bandit version (the one with Blue Marvel speakers)?
@Shane First of all, thank you for this. It kinda makes me think I maybe should have gone for a Silver Stripe than the Red Stripe. Although I definitely love my redstripe. Secondly, I listened to this and I enjoyed it BUT a thought about the room micing. It's a fine concept, and I understand why it's preferable to close-micing. But the problem is, you get a lot of the room sound. I get what you mean about hearing the way that it sounds in the room, but the mic hears more of your room than our ears actually do. At least the way it's positioned here. When I play my redstripe in my basement, I hear some room, but much less than in this video. It definitely colours the tone. I think you should keep up with this idea, but maybe bring the room mic closer to the amps to try and mitigate some of these reflections. Not all of them, but some of them for sure. Anyway, thanks for all of these videos. I really love them. You've inspired me to start learning blues. Something I wasnt interested in until I came across your channel a couple months ago
Hey Shane, I kid you not I've just turned up to a blues gig and as I entered the I thought what a lovely guitar sound!! Guess what? A Peavey Bandit red stripe straight in no pedals!
To my ears the red stripe has a touch more bass, but either one would be awesome for a band stadium sound, I have it little brother, peavey envoy 110, 40 watts, this thing is very deceptive, and with it being a red stripe trans tube, the sound is incredible, thanks for the video, now I want a 112, my wife will kill me,
Me2! (friendly guy). I just sold my silver 2day to a bud who's been buggin' me about it for 'bout 5yrs! (150$, perfect cond w/ foot pedal), now i need to find another silver online to replace! (but i'll take the red if i have too).
Bagged a silver for 50 bucks last week, guy said it had bad inputs and lots of crackling on most of the knobs.....of course you all can guess I just needed to clean out the pots with cleaner/lube, and it works perfectly. Going to do some speaker swapping just for grins...BTW, I'm a tube guy primarily, have vintage Fender, Marshall, and Boogie amps as well as some SS offerings...but I could gig with then Bandit if need be and be pretty happy, at least for a set!
Both sound great but I'd take the silver - I'd worry the red with that speaker might be lost in the mix? Great demo though and good on you for using a room mic - close mics make it hard to really evaluate anything via UA-cam I reckon.. nice one Shane!
The 1981 patriot limited edition' red white and blue striped PV bandit with the single 12"/ two 4" and two 2" speakers is the best version of the PV bandit amps. I have 2 of them and run them in stero.
Hi Shane, I already have got the silver stripe and I am very happy. I was thinking in purchase the red stripe as well but I am not sure with the sound off this in the video I prefer the silver. could you tell me if the speaker that the red bandit had before has more high end... less rounded that the one in the video with the texas speaker? thanks
Both sound great but just to point out you have the red stripe in vintage on the clean channel, this voices the tone stack more like a fender. On the modern setting it's much closer to the Silver stripe tone stack. The speaker in the Silver stripe doesn't look like a USA Sheffield 1230 either, looks like the stock speaker in my Chinese red stripe, maybe a replacement?
I just inherited a silver stripe Express 112 and ‘83 Bandit 65. These are great value amps when you can find a clean one. Thanks for sharing. Was curious in the tone differences between red and silver.
@@hartlee1160 the Bandit is voiced more American with the Scorpion while the Express is more British voiced with the Sheffield. Both are nice. I like the T-Dynamics and a little more logical control layout on the Express. I will say though the noise floor on my Bandit is super quiet at idle while the express is audible at rest with a silent room. Try both. They are different enough that you should try.
Lol it's a true "Shoot Out" with a bunch of Bandits in the room
just scored a silver stripe for 70 bucks. that thing is absolutely killer, turning into my new favorite amp. the gain channel really impresses me, ultra responsive and ballsy, a strat really brings out the upper-range growl of the sheffield
Your demos are Awesome! Always know I can trust your direction! Thanks mate!
The silver stripe sounded louder & clearer, both sound great. I Just got a used fairly rare USA Red stripe with Sheffield speaker & pointy logo. Love it.
Love the Bandit videos, Shane. I was gonna buy one but lo and behold, my old Scorpion powered Bandit 112 is coming back to me!!!! I missed that one.
To me, the silver stripe seems to have a wider sound spectrum, also the response seems tighter....great video, Shane!
Thanks for this and your other videos. Always a joy. I'd vote for close micing. The room sound just masks the differences.
Great video, I'm so glad to see I actually prefer the Silver Stripe (which I have)! Too bad my lead channel broke this week, I'll get it fixed ASAP instead of looking for a new one.
Hey Shane! Loved the video. I was actually lucky enough to pick up a Teal Stripe Bandit about a month ago, and I got a Red Stripe today, each for $50 Canadian! I really love the sound of the red stripe.
Listening thousands of miles away in California, lol, the silver is my preference, although both are nice amps. I've been thinking of picking up a silver stripe lately. Probably will. Thank you for all the hard work you do for us out here.
Just bought a silver stripe Bandit here in the UK for £20! What a bargain! It still sounds absolutely fantastic. Thanks for the great demo mate, even after all this time your old vids rule!
Thanks Shane. Really useful. I think the mic placement helped a lot with the comparison even though the room echo is a downside.
You have inspired me to plug back into my silver stripe sheffield. Thanks mate
Silver stripe all day long for me, just seems to have more clarity and definition, guess that's down to the Sheffield.
my red stripe came with the Sheffield I love it
Note the size difference, the silver is bigger than the red stripe.
Still loving your vids Shane, thanks!!
Love the old silver stripe. HOT.
I like the way you mic'ed it this time.More realistic to what we would here playing at home!
Great sounding little amps at a great price. Awesome! Love the raider shirt!
I play over the silverstripe for over 22 years with an extra 12 inch h/k cabinet for a
Better sound spread, this duo served me good playing in a seme-pro band!
Never had any problem! Happy me! 😊
I just picked up a silver stripe with a Sheffield from a private online seller for $150 CAN, couldn't be more pleased! Your great demos nudged me into getting one!
I bought for 80 $ WITH a old cheap strat !! I have to say...almost all the pots where crapy.
@@alainbrisebois8334 My pots are perfect, no scratchy sounds at all :) $80 is a steal! I'm guessing that you bought it either from a drug addict or a woman ;-)
@@rockandrollmd541 POUAHAH!! I know.
I’ve got a 6505 and valve king and just got a silver stripe yesterday.
I’ve got to say it’s a killer amp.....
I am a fan of the scorpion/ teal Peavey's. those meaty speakers just sound so nice. Distortion was awesome on my teal peavey and just seemed like peavey upped their game in the early 90's
Checking out all your vids on the inexpensive Peavey Bandit and some others on Fender Deluxe Reverb RI. Just hankering for an inexpensive practive amp,,, don't need one just trying to push back the GAS. Poster collection has come a long way... looking good.
I actually really like the room mic better, I feel like I can get a better idea of what the amp really sounds like. Great video!
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I agree with the mic being back with the camera, your ear is not up against the speaker.
Hi Shane, just bought a Peavey bandit 112 transtube silverstripe with the shefield speaker in as new condition for £89 British pounds. Just got to collect it and play that puppy...can't wait to see what sound I can get out of it, your demo has given me a lot more confidence now as this was an instinctive choice. I have several guitars including Gibson SG standard, Les paul studio, fender strat elite...and my favourite of all is my Peavet T60 78 model in ash and mint condition. cheers
Can't go wrong with either amp. I'd use both!!!! Great video Shane!
Good video. Amps like this (I would also include the Roland Cube series and the Tech21TM60 among others) show that great sounding amps are not mutually exclusive to tube amps.
I like the mic placement in this 1. More accurate representation of real conditions. For myself I'm with you on that 1 point, that is pickup whatever 1's cheaper or you just like. Close enough not to need 2 of them.
I just scored a USA red stripe last night and it’s a bit better to my ear than the silver stripe I also own. Both have a Sheffield installed. Got a Texas Heat on the way for the Red Stripe!!! Thanks for your vids!
Those are two of the most amazing amps I have ever heard (tube or solid state),with or without pedals.I wonder if the size of the cabinet affects volume?Are the Chinese made still Heartily Peavey designs? Man,he has a gift for electrical designs!!!
Love the new MIC'ing. Thanks!
played bandits during the 80's ,65watts ,Sheffield speakers had 2 of them mostly only needed one. large rooms both one on either side of the stage not really stereo never a problem. they are a great amp keep going on and on.
By the way, did you know that Peavey has your comparison video with Dr. Ric on the Bandit 112 page?
That was a good comparison. I've owned a couple of Bandits over the years and I prefer the silver stripe. I haven't had a 'new' one tho so I'm looking forward to the 4 Bandit shoot out. 👍
that 112 silver stripe is an underrated gem, i got one from 95’/96’ usa made it’s practically bombproof and does everything i could ever ask from an amp
*YES!!!!! ROOM MIKING FTW!!! THANK YOU!!!* :D :D :D @intheblues, Shane, I know this is a bit of a long message, but if you could be so kind, please take the time to read it. :)
I'm sorry to say, but I hate, and I mean HATE close miking with a passion. Thank you SO much for beginning to hear the difference for yourself, while trying room miking for a change. This video sounded SOOOOOO much better in comparison! The difference in tonality is like night and day. Just no comparison whatsoever. Thank you! Thank you! :)
Close miking just sounds so tonally flat, compressed, and unnatural-sounding. It lacks dynamics and a TON of natural overtones are lost because the microphone is being overloaded from being placed so close to the speaker. More importantly, the extreme short distance between the microphone and the speaker of close miking doesn't allow all the harmonics and overtones to fully bloom in the way it does at a normal listening distance between the speaker and your ear when playing guitar at a normal playing distance. So much is lost because of this.
And while this next thing may not apply specifically to the Bandit with its single speaker, I laugh and shudder whenever someone close mics a speaker cabinet with two or more speakers in it especially. It's like, "Let's mic ONE speaker...and NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR ANY OF THE OTHER ONES!" Yeah, that's a great idea! NOT! lol I laugh at this logic because all you can get is the sound of the ONE SPEAKER you are recording! The problem with close miking just one speaker (in addition to all the other tonal downsides to it) is that each speaker interacts with each other and comes together to create a different tone because of those interactions. In addition to cabinet volume, this is the reason why cabinets with 2, 4, or 8 speakers in them (in the case of a full stack) sound different! And if you only mic one speaker, you will NEVER hear that interaction, nor can you hear the sound of the cabinet that also makes up a part of the tone. Close miking can never, and I mean NEVER capture that.
Room miking is just simply a MUCH more natural sound because it is not being compressed by the high pressure sound levels of close miking, and it allows for full dynamics, harmonics, and complex overtones to be picked up because a speaker isn't pounding it to death within inches of it. Essentially, room miking is what we naturally hear WHILE NORMALLY PLAYING GUITAR IN A ROOM AND LISTENING WITH OUR OWN EARS! Go figure, huh? lol The tones we hear in-room or onstage with our own ears is EVERYTHING that drives us towards getting better tone, so why would anyone want to close mic an amp and lose all of the tone that got you to that moment in the first place? lol It just doesn't make sense.
Anyway, that's my close mic rant for the day. lol I hope you didn't mind, and I hope you agree to some extent, because the sound of this video was just SO much better! Continue to room mic all your videos from now on! It just sounds so much better! Again, thanks for doing this, Shane. Cheers! :)
P.S. Oh, and BTW, I liked the sound of both Bandits for different reasons. I think if you could run them into a cab loaded with a Texas Heat speaker and a Sheffield speaker in it, it would sound amazing. Both speakers have their good qualities for sure. :)
I agree with this whole heartedly. Recording with a room mike at the very least two feet away from the cab. It's only a couple of milliseconds of delay. Nothing anyone would notice.
Couldn't agree more!!
Hi, Shane. Nice comparison! I was looking at the schematic of both amps and they are basically the same, the biggest improvement is the channel switching, which is Jfet based on the Red Stripe vs relay switching on the Silver Stripe. Bet they sound almost identical through the same speaker. I'm curious to see (hear actually) how the newer chinese (Cyclop / Codpiece) Bandit compares against the older brothers. Would you mind also throw in some high gain / heavy riffs when doing so? Keep on rocking, bro!
Because of your videos, I scored a silver stripe for 80€ last friday. I have been shocked when comparing it to my upgraded HRD (paid 10 times this price for it)... Cleans are almost as good (tone stack is in fact more effective), and lead channel is great! Together in Stereo it´s heaven... How did this old and cheap SS went so "unnoticed" these past years? Tube snobbery maybe, belief that a great tone comes with a big price tag, who knows?
I will never thank you enough for pointing this one to me!
"How did this old and cheap SS went so "unnoticed" these past years?"
Come up out of your Mom's basement once in a while.
The PV 112 is one of the most iconic amps of the last 30 years.
maybe in the US, but not here in France. in fact the ones we have here are made in the UK. notice I said 80€. if you were out of your basement more often, you would know the whole world is not your neighborhood. For instance, here we have something called "education" that motivates people to be nice to each other.
@@HeliBenj I'm buying a made in US silver stripe for 120€ here in Ireland.
the Texas heat sounds great on clean, but that Sheffield just cuts through really nicely
The silver stripe reminds me the Peavey classic series,more "vintage alive sound"..But the red stripe has more smooth sound and more bottom end...Play the 2 amps at the same time maybe great!And Shane ,you're absolutely right for you're new "mic systeme"it represent more the reality
Well done they both sound great but i fall for the bandit silver stripe also I have one dating back to 1995 great amp being a solid state
Wow.... I love silver stripe, a bit older than the red (more vintage & cleaner sounds? Great 112 peavy bandits !!!! Love them
just got a red stripe one for my sisters kids for 150$cad its a sweet first amp! nice cleans and good amount of gain
i just bought a Red line 100 watt amp i love it better then my tube amp it is the last USA bandit that they made i used A TC electronics Fang disortion pedal it sonds amazing i bought this amp for 130 dollars. on crages list its the best 130 dallors i have ever spent it just fits all my needs i am verry happy. i have played tube amps my hole life and i wish i would have known about these amps a long time ago thank to peavey i finnaly found a sound that i can live with i havent used my ME 70 Boss pedal borad yet but i know it will sound amazing i dont know to much about the new ones but i love my Red stripe peace out from PaT Romero
I've got enough gear but you've got me looking on gumtree for a bandit now Shane.
Also Shane, if you could score a silver stripe special 212 and demo one that would be something right there. I say the silver stripe as apposed to the red because it actually has 3 channels separate EQ for all channels being the 3rd has an active EQ does 130 watts with internal speakers and 220 watts with extension speakers added. Should cover any situation and dare I say all you need in one amp minus pedals of course!
Dial up the low end mud on the silver!!! I clean that up with an MXR 10 band hooked up via the pre out and back in to power amp in. Works a treat and the tube break up simulation really comes through
Cool vid... Have a 1981 Peavey Bandit 50 watt that sounds real nice and real loud. It's for sale here in northern Illinois.
I have played through several different styles of Peavey Bandits, both transtubes and non-transtube, and to me they are all voiced similarly. I play a lot of metal and hard rock, and to me the newest model of the Bandit has a slight advantage on those types of tones. But you are good with any model. They all sound similar to me.
Can't wait for the "Bandit Cook Off". Would be nice to have a Teal Stripe and a 65 included though.
Iv had vintage Marshall s / fender twins, Orange ad30 ect. But I still think the best sound I ever got was with the silver bandit years ago. Good times.
You're the King of SS amp demos...
Cheers for the clear, hi def, and un-biased demonstrations...
Much appreciation from a fellow g-tarist.
I think the Sheffield speaker would cut better in a band mix, but the Texas Heat woulds sound more pleasing playing alone. I would have loved to see this comparison with the stock speaker in both amps, because I want to buy a Bandit, but I'm not sure about Silver, Red or the current production model.
BOTH , delays etc into silver stripe, overdrives into red stripe, with choice to use singlely or together, what fun.
Gee, how easy would it have been to swap the speakers from amp to amp, to clarify whether the obvious difference in sound is due to the speaker or the amp?
cool stuff! Im liking the room micing!
now i have to get a silver stripe to go with my red stripe. i like the new mic setup...
I use to have peavey silver stripe have great clean now I found but a that time I was to play blues but more overdrive sound ,but the speaker in silver strip was in peavey 5150
Create to Eddy Van Halen sound like celestion speaker Nice video Shane!
Great video! I like the silver stripe a bit more. The room mic is a good idea, but you should bring it a bit closer, there is to much room sound in this video. Cheers :)
The Sheffield speaker sounds more present and dynamic. The Texas Heat has a too small magnet (high Qts factor value) and sounds therefore boomy and flat.
IMHO you should use both at the same time. They would make a perfect match together!
Extremely late to this party, but I just scored the red stripe 212 Special (essentially a 212 red stripe Bandit with a third channel) with Sheffield speakers. Also have the exact silver stripe Bandit that you're playing here. As if my neighbors didn't already hate me...
Anxiously awaiting the "Bandit-Off" 👍
Silver stripe all the way... It'll cut the mix really well in a live setting.
My red stripe Bandit (90’s?) came with a Sheffield speaker and it’s the stuff!
I really like the room micing thing - much better than close micing
A great review thank you
I love your Peavey bandit vids, I have the teal stripe with a Patriot Red, White & Blue speaker
I'd love to see some comparisons with the teal stripe and your thoughts on it
Great video! Can't wait to see and hear the modern/current Bandits compared to your red and/or silver stripe versions. :-D
I have a Silver and it can cause structural damage at range. Love the bite and yet it still sings.
Thumbs up for the room mic! How about a comparison between Silver stripe and the current (new) Bandit?
Red Stripe has more low-end punch. (that I really like) Although it makes it a little “muddy sounding” it kinda needs low-end punch to hold its own when up next to a tube amp.
The Silver Stripe has more of an open sound to it, that can sound a bit thin up against a tube amp. Although it maintains clarity, just at a cost.
With SS Amps there always some sort of compromise that has to be made. For band use the low-end punch from the Red-Stripe is much needed, without it you can get lost, especially when high-gain levels are introduced.
I bought a silver stripe for $175 in great shape turned it into a head it blows away a dsl20h I got that's now on the chopping block through my marshall cab sounds great I think the lows are huge on the silver strip if you were to adjust the knobs you would achieve unity they clean up on the guitar really well
I own one peavey silver bandit with a shefield speaker my favorite solid state amp crankup it up the volume sound sooo good
I vote for both! Ya the both have a great sound
Hi, Shane. Thanks for video, man. For its flexibility and low price, I'll add the Bandit to my gear. Do you have plans on making a video comparing both Red and Silver Stripe to the new Bandit version (the one with Blue Marvel speakers)?
Man, would be cool to have both running stereo to hear the blended tones!
I've done it with the Transtube 112 Studio Pros -- a silver and a red. It was awesome.
@Shane First of all, thank you for this. It kinda makes me think I maybe should have gone for a Silver Stripe than the Red Stripe. Although I definitely love my redstripe.
Secondly, I listened to this and I enjoyed it BUT a thought about the room micing.
It's a fine concept, and I understand why it's preferable to close-micing. But the problem is, you get a lot of the room sound. I get what you mean about hearing the way that it sounds in the room, but the mic hears more of your room than our ears actually do. At least the way it's positioned here. When I play my redstripe in my basement, I hear some room, but much less than in this video. It definitely colours the tone.
I think you should keep up with this idea, but maybe bring the room mic closer to the amps to try and mitigate some of these reflections. Not all of them, but some of them for sure.
Anyway, thanks for all of these videos. I really love them. You've inspired me to start learning blues. Something I wasnt interested in until I came across your channel a couple months ago
I think he had them too high, keep them same distance but IN LINE with the speakers! THAT would remove more of the rooms acoustics.
@DMSProduktions, That's entirely fair. I would agree
Of course you would! YOU are smart! ;o)
haha, Yep, I was finding myself liking the silver stripe. The red stripe sounded almost muddled. That the word for can't tell if it's muted or muddy.
Hey Shane, I kid you not I've just turned up to a blues gig and as I entered the I thought what a lovely guitar sound!! Guess what? A Peavey Bandit red stripe straight in no pedals!
To my ears the red stripe has a touch more bass, but either one would be awesome for a band stadium sound, I have it little brother, peavey envoy 110, 40 watts, this thing is very deceptive, and with it being a red stripe trans tube, the sound is incredible, thanks for the video, now I want a 112, my wife will kill me,
Me2! (friendly guy). I just sold my silver 2day to a bud who's been buggin' me about it for 'bout 5yrs! (150$, perfect cond w/ foot pedal), now i need to find another silver online to replace! (but i'll take the red if i have too).
Personally I prefer the silver stripe. Its a more revealing tone and makes you play better.
very accurate plans for something like that I found on Avasva
If I had to choose between close mic and room I would probably go for the close mic sound. I think a blend of both would be the best.
Bagged a silver for 50 bucks last week, guy said it had bad inputs and lots of crackling on most of the knobs.....of course you all can guess I just needed to clean out the pots with cleaner/lube, and it works perfectly. Going to do some speaker swapping just for grins...BTW, I'm a tube guy primarily, have vintage Fender, Marshall, and Boogie amps as well as some SS offerings...but I could gig with then Bandit if need be and be pretty happy, at least for a set!
Silver Stripe. So the guitar gods sent me one. Sheffield sounds like a real amp. Thanks Shane.
One of my favs is the teal stripe. Id love to head a comparison between the silver stripe and the teal stripe
Super robust bottom end tones from the Red Stripe!
I bought a Silver Stripe in near mint condition and I love it
The Red Stripe is more warm sounding. I Love the Red Stripe. But I would also take the silver strip. Both are cool
Both sound great but I'd take the silver - I'd worry the red with that speaker might be lost in the mix? Great demo though and good on you for using a room mic - close mics make it hard to really evaluate anything via UA-cam I reckon.. nice one Shane!
Jaketone i had one years ago i think it always sounded too dark
The mic sounded good. Had to get used to that touch of room reverb at first but sounds good.
The 1981 patriot limited edition' red white and blue striped PV bandit with the single
12"/ two 4" and two 2" speakers is the best version of the PV bandit amps.
I have 2 of them and run them in stero.
YES!!! Room mics are preferred.
Mic'ing the room is the way to go for this kind of comparison. That is the only way to show what the listener hears.
These amps make use of brilliant circuitry by Hartley Peavey. Best guitar amps ever made.
Hi Shane, I already have got the silver stripe and I am very happy. I was thinking in purchase the red stripe as well but I am not sure with the sound off this in the video I prefer the silver. could you tell me if the speaker that the red bandit had before has more high end... less rounded that the one in the video with the texas speaker? thanks
Hello intheblues, what is the difference between the red stripe or the teal stripe
Both sound great but just to point out you have the red stripe in vintage on the clean channel, this voices the tone stack more like a fender. On the modern setting it's much closer to the Silver stripe tone stack. The speaker in the Silver stripe doesn't look like a USA Sheffield 1230 either, looks like the stock speaker in my Chinese red stripe, maybe a replacement?
I just inherited a silver stripe Express 112 and ‘83 Bandit 65. These are great value amps when you can find a clean one. Thanks for sharing. Was curious in the tone differences between red and silver.
How does the express compare to the bandit 65? I'm about to get a silver stripe express today, excited
@@hartlee1160 the Bandit is voiced more American with the Scorpion while the Express is more British voiced with the Sheffield. Both are nice. I like the T-Dynamics and a little more logical control layout on the Express. I will say though the noise floor on my Bandit is super quiet at idle while the express is audible at rest with a silent room. Try both. They are different enough that you should try.