It's only me who considers Andras Toth the best chess coach on UA-cam? It's amazing his power of convinbcing amateur players like me to think twice when trading bishops. I always consider the g7(g2)-B a mosnter and try to change it whenever I can, but now (with practice, I know), I'll try not to panic when I see the fianchettoed bishop and think whether it's good for me to trade it or leave it on the board. Great lessons, Andras, thanks to open my eyes on this topic!
@@ChessCoachAndras I think part of your quality is also your choice of material to cover; pointing out concrete patterns and ideas that are easy to look for and keep in mind, as opposed to very general wishy washy « principles »
Tell you what would be fascinating - when you look at the database in a VERY typical opening position like that kings Indian position (that most 1900s on lichess would probably reach from theory) where capturing with the bishop is a huge positional mistake which has never been made by a master. If you looked at the lichess lower rated non-master database (say, 1800-2000) I bet going for the bishop h6 trade is like the third most common move. Contrast that with the master's database where it has never even been played. That kind of difference is super instructive because it shows a mis-application of a generic idea. Which helps to REINFORCE and COMPLEMENT the original idea.
I used to play the pirch for years. I switched to the e4 e5 instead, because of this uncomfortable attack white can easily set up. Good examples you showed us
When I play the white side of the Yugoslav Dragon/ Säemisch KID/ Pirc 150 attack/ etc … I often hope to play Bh6 but not initiate the bishop exchange. Black often initiates the exchange. Eliminating black’s defending is often secondary in my mind to simply blocking black’s h-pawn stopping black’s h5 so the white pawn storm can crash the King side. Great video!
What a goldmine of a video! Thanks so much for clarifying on this matter! I can't tell you how many times I'd go for that trade, or try to block off the bishop with pawns, and see the computer recommending pawn moves where I didn't see the idea, and indeed wondered where I went wrong.
Thanks Coach, it’s so hard for a beginner to evaluate what’s the best option, while the idea of following “rules” is just so much easier and more attractive
Thanks so much for making this video, feel like this has given me so much more to think about with regards to trading bishops. I never catch your twitch streams live but I’ll go drop a sub there again now while you’re offline 👌🏻
Figured it out, doesn't seem to let me sub on mobile anymore. But went to my desktop and logged in and it let me drop a sub even though you're offline since I'm never in your timezone for twitch. I thought they'd got rid of twitch prime but don't worry false alarm. :)
Outstanding video... Such an important concept... I saw it twice nd still haven't soaked it all in...I ll probably see it once again...the averbakh plan is so damn sophisticated... Pls tell us books that ll cover such concepts...
Excellent info, Sir! Thank you. Chess is a very concrete game and not all fianchetto bishops are alike. Great stuff. I still don't get it why you only have 11K subscribers and the batmanclown has a million.
I'm circling back to this video after watching your (excellent) Chessable course "Chess Principles Reloaded - King Safety". In the "Exposed King" section you give examples of White attacking with pawns in front of his castled king with impunity. What I realize now is that White was able to do so in those examples because his pieces dominated the king side while Black's pieces were mostly located on the q-side. In the examples shown in this video, Black's piece deployment is more balanced between the q-side and k-side and so are better positioned to repulse a k-side attack and possibly counterattack White' exposed king. The other factor is that White often had a pawn on e5 in the CPR-KS examples which hampers Black's ability to transfer pieces to the k-side as opposed to the examples in this video where Black has the pawn on e5, giving him more room to manuever his pieces. I say all this smply by way of thanking you for helping me better understand some very basic principles of chess and how to recognize structural differences in what would previously have looked like "similar" positions to me.
Excellent video. Like many other players my rating range, as white I always automatically trade off the fianchettoed bishop in the KID often leaving me without a good plan just like you mention. Will think twice about this next time.
I mostly agree with the concepts presented in this video. However I recently came across an Ulf game (Andersson - McNab 1994) where Ulf annotates that he wants to trade off the bishops even with very little material left on the board. He ultimately gets an "attack" in that his last two pieces, the queen and LSB, target a slightly weakened king. His queen to f6 and his bishop on d5 end up winning the game combining pressure on f7 and g6. To me it seems to be a situation opposite to what you're describing, and I was curious how that game would combine with your thoughts laid out in this video.
On the maroczy bind - wasn't there a weird game, I think by Caruana about a year ago where he broke that rule by taking the bishop with a concrete follow-up? I think I remember it because the people doing commentary had to first explain that you *don't* take that bishop normally, followed by marvelling at the idea behind the trade. I may be totally misremembering it though. Would be interested in seeing the other side of this. e.g. those grunfeld lines where it's fine to hang your rook on a1. Helpful video, thanks!
Nope Its Peter Heine. For sake of clarity: The book shows Aagaard as author but he is actually the editor of the book as each chapter was written by an expert. hence the title. And it was Peter Heine , who wrote the chapter on the Maroczy.
Turns out I didn't understand most of the things about certain positions I've played dozens of times. Time to fill those big potholes in my repertoire.
Sir Many times when I try to learn openings, I do not understand that why this move is played and why only this is good and why others are bad etc. I do not fully understand the full reasons behind the moves being played and end up memorising them. So what should I do.
I suggest. Play more games. Like trial and error. I increase my rating on that way, and easily remember because we learn in mistake. I also applied some idea i got in youtube.
I like to read chess opening books and put them into Lichess study and make any comments the author mentions. This helps me a lot and helps give me a way to play against certain openings. They often show a lot of thematic ideas like e4 in the Dutch. I would highly recommend Lars Schandorff’s books on queens gambit and Indian defense as they explain theory and he annotates games. Or if you want, look up EKAFC on lichess study for the studies
Thanks for this, I play a lot of fianchettos as black, either in response to "bad sicilians" or grunfeld/KID structures, just casual 1400 blitz on lichess, and at least 6 or 7 times out of 10 white seems obsessed with this play.
In Maroczy bind there is a line where exhanging dark squared bishops is fine for white 1e4 c5 2Nf3 Nc6 3d4 cd 4 Nd4 g6 5c4 bg7 6Be3 Nf6 7Nc3 0-0 8 Be2 d6 9 0-0 Bd7 10 h3!? ( new approach) 10... N: d4 11 B: d4 Bc6 12 Qc2 a5 13 Rad1 Nd7 ? 14 B: g7! K: g7 15 Bg4 main idea which popped up in correspondence chess, main idea to trade bishop on knight d7 and maybe play a4,b3 to close queenside And in this position tis very hard to play for Black 15...Nc5 standard is bad after 16e5! 15...Ne5 is bas either after 16 c5 15...Qb6 16 B: d7 B: d7 17 Nd5 Qd8 18 Qb3 also better for white 15...Qc7 natural move avoiding xray with rook on d1 16 Nd5 B: d5 20 ed Nc5 typical for Black aiming to leave with good Knight versus bad white light squared bishop, but actually here White is also much better, the plan is play Re1 on e7 pawn which is weak and block a4 ,b3 quenside and play in the center and kingside with moves such as h4,h5, Sight error on 15 Qc7 also is good 16B: d7 and Nd5
I understand that its a bad plan in the higher rank, but its it a bad plan in the lower rank?, i mean, if you take away the fianchettto bishop to a kings indian player, they get very very sad, thanks for the video, now i know when to trade my fianchetto bishop
Impressed by your teaching style, Andras. Now, moving to your Chessable courses.
@@HeeBeeGB cheers mate, hope you will like them!
Wow I’ve never felt more “seen” when you described club level players lol! Excellent stuff!
It's only me who considers Andras Toth the best chess coach on UA-cam? It's amazing his power of convinbcing amateur players like me to think twice when trading bishops. I always consider the g7(g2)-B a mosnter and try to change it whenever I can, but now (with practice, I know), I'll try not to panic when I see the fianchettoed bishop and think whether it's good for me to trade it or leave it on the board.
Great lessons, Andras, thanks to open my eyes on this topic!
My Pleasure senor!:)
@@ChessCoachAndras I think part of your quality is also your choice of material to cover; pointing out concrete patterns and ideas that are easy to look for and keep in mind, as opposed to very general wishy washy « principles »
Spot on comment - everyone always calls it a monster so I used to also try to trade it off whenever I could. Not anymore
Top coach! I think that he is the best. I do not understand why he has so few followers.
this video proves once again that yours is the most educational chess channel on youtube
This channel is so underrated. Great content
Brilliant content, had absolutely never seen this distinction you just illustrated. Thanks a lot and keep it coming!
Hard to believe this valuable channel exists. I hope you reach the 100k sub and more soon András, you deserve it!
Tell you what would be fascinating - when you look at the database in a VERY typical opening position like that kings Indian position (that most 1900s on lichess would probably reach from theory) where capturing with the bishop is a huge positional mistake which has never been made by a master.
If you looked at the lichess lower rated non-master database (say, 1800-2000) I bet going for the bishop h6 trade is like the third most common move. Contrast that with the master's database where it has never even been played. That kind of difference is super instructive because it shows a mis-application of a generic idea. Which helps to REINFORCE and COMPLEMENT the original idea.
Awesome video, by the way.
I used to play the pirch for years. I switched to the e4 e5 instead, because of this uncomfortable attack white can easily set up. Good examples you showed us
Very valuable lesson! Thanks Andras🙋🏻♂️
When I play the white side of the Yugoslav Dragon/ Säemisch KID/ Pirc 150 attack/ etc … I often hope to play Bh6 but not initiate the bishop exchange. Black often initiates the exchange. Eliminating black’s defending is often secondary in my mind to simply blocking black’s h-pawn stopping black’s h5 so the white pawn storm can crash the King side. Great video!
András, you make it look so simple. This definitely gave me a new perspective on multiple things
What a goldmine of a video! Thanks so much for clarifying on this matter!
I can't tell you how many times I'd go for that trade, or try to block off the bishop with pawns, and see the computer recommending pawn moves where I didn't see the idea, and indeed wondered where I went wrong.
@@Zoomjah glad to be of assistance!🔥👌
Thanks Coach, it’s so hard for a beginner to evaluate what’s the best option, while the idea of following “rules” is just so much easier and more attractive
super helpful instruction. thanks!
Excellent video. 5 thumbs up. We all love these instructional videos alot more than the goofy ones. We come here to learn and improve.
Thanks so much for making this video, feel like this has given me so much more to think about with regards to trading bishops. I never catch your twitch streams live but I’ll go drop a sub there again now while you’re offline 👌🏻
I don’t seem to be able to do a twitch prime sub anymore… are twitch prime subs not a thing now?
Figured it out, doesn't seem to let me sub on mobile anymore. But went to my desktop and logged in and it let me drop a sub even though you're offline since I'm never in your timezone for twitch. I thought they'd got rid of twitch prime but don't worry false alarm. :)
4:37 the moment I saw this structure, "Hoola hoola man! He reads my mind. Let's go El Drago on the Sicilano"
Muchas gracias coach.. i learned a lot in your youtube channel. Im in 1700 in lichess now.
Outstanding video... Such an important concept... I saw it twice nd still haven't soaked it all in...I ll probably see it once again...the averbakh plan is so damn sophisticated... Pls tell us books that ll cover such concepts...
Extremely informative video, thank you.
Great video Andras
Excellent info, Sir! Thank you.
Chess is a very concrete game and not all fianchetto bishops are alike.
Great stuff. I still don't get it why you only have 11K subscribers and the batmanclown has a million.
One word: Clickbait. Compared to other top streamers, he’s more educational but he’s more into what gets views.
I'm circling back to this video after watching your (excellent) Chessable course "Chess Principles Reloaded - King Safety". In the "Exposed King" section you give examples of White attacking with pawns in front of his castled king with impunity. What I realize now is that White was able to do so in those examples because his pieces dominated the king side while Black's pieces were mostly located on the q-side. In the examples shown in this video, Black's piece deployment is more balanced between the q-side and k-side and so are better positioned to repulse a k-side attack and possibly counterattack White' exposed king. The other factor is that White often had a pawn on e5 in the CPR-KS examples which hampers Black's ability to transfer pieces to the k-side as opposed to the examples in this video where Black has the pawn on e5, giving him more room to manuever his pieces.
I say all this smply by way of thanking you for helping me better understand some very basic principles of chess and how to recognize structural differences in what would previously have looked like "similar" positions to me.
What are the odds I find a video on my exact question of playing Bh6. Perfect video!
I think his chess principles reloaded courses are on sale now for some days.
Luv ya Andas, You've helped me so much!
"That means that im ready to throwing the kitchen's sink and just go ganghole and attack as if there's no tomorrow" 😂 best description ever
Amazing channel!! And yeah that was me, anti fianchettto I hate that"dont know where to put my bishop" chess. Really instructive stuff
Thanks Piet, and welcome onboard!
Material I haven't been exposed to, and I like the fianchetto games.
Excellent thank you, tend to play the English with a white square strategy so very key to me (1400)
Excellent video. Like many other players my rating range, as white I always automatically trade off the fianchettoed bishop in the KID often leaving me without a good plan just like you mention. Will think twice about this next time.
Love your no nonsense "call a spade a spade" insights....
I mostly agree with the concepts presented in this video. However I recently came across an Ulf game (Andersson - McNab 1994) where Ulf annotates that he wants to trade off the bishops even with very little material left on the board. He ultimately gets an "attack" in that his last two pieces, the queen and LSB, target a slightly weakened king. His queen to f6 and his bishop on d5 end up winning the game combining pressure on f7 and g6. To me it seems to be a situation opposite to what you're describing, and I was curious how that game would combine with your thoughts laid out in this video.
Another excellent video. Thank you!
What Andras says about club players being miffed as to how they lost in a with a King's Indian or against it, I understand that very clearly! lol
"What is he going to do in the next 40 moves?" 🤣
I didn't think those were bishops from the thumbnail.... :S
On the maroczy bind - wasn't there a weird game, I think by Caruana about a year ago where he broke that rule by taking the bishop with a concrete follow-up? I think I remember it because the people doing commentary had to first explain that you *don't* take that bishop normally, followed by marvelling at the idea behind the trade. I may be totally misremembering it though.
Would be interested in seeing the other side of this. e.g. those grunfeld lines where it's fine to hang your rook on a1. Helpful video, thanks!
@@BeFourCM you may well be right.
I always exchanged the bishop in the Maroczy vs accelerated dragon and did not in the normal dragon. Lesson learnt, thanks!
Awesome video!
6:45 for just the sake of clarity, it's not Peter Heine, it's Jacob Aagaard
Nope Its Peter Heine. For sake of clarity: The book shows Aagaard as author but he is actually the editor of the book as each chapter was written by an expert. hence the title. And it was Peter Heine , who wrote the chapter on the Maroczy.
@@ChessCoachAndras ow, thanks for the info! I just downloaded the book and am very satisfied with the chapter on Dragon
@@chessematics buy books, don't download them
@@g.h.g.1106 Thanks for suggesting, your opinion has been automatically ignored.
Very good video!
Turns out I didn't understand most of the things about certain positions I've played dozens of times. Time to fill those big potholes in my repertoire.
Sir Many times when I try to learn openings, I do not understand that why this move is played and why only this is good and why others are bad etc. I do not fully understand the full reasons behind the moves being played and end up memorising them. So what should I do.
Do not memorize a single move ever, that you do not understand.
I suggest. Play more games. Like trial and error. I increase my rating on that way, and easily remember because we learn in mistake. I also applied some idea i got in youtube.
I like to read chess opening books and put them into Lichess study and make any comments the author mentions. This helps me a lot and helps give me a way to play against certain openings. They often show a lot of thematic ideas like e4 in the Dutch. I would highly recommend Lars Schandorff’s books on queens gambit and Indian defense as they explain theory and he annotates games. Or if you want, look up EKAFC on lichess study for the studies
Very helpful, thanks
Thanks fr the video sir.... I wish u train me.....
The good Bishop is one that can attack enemy pawns? I thought the good Bishop was the one on the opposite colour to your own pawn(s) in the centre.
Thanks for this, I play a lot of fianchettos as black, either in response to "bad sicilians" or grunfeld/KID structures, just casual 1400 blitz on lichess, and at least 6 or 7 times out of 10 white seems obsessed with this play.
Super 👌 👌 thanks
thanks !!!
In Maroczy bind there is a line where exhanging dark squared bishops is fine for white
1e4 c5 2Nf3 Nc6 3d4 cd 4 Nd4 g6 5c4 bg7 6Be3 Nf6 7Nc3 0-0 8 Be2 d6 9 0-0 Bd7 10 h3!? ( new approach)
10... N: d4 11 B: d4 Bc6 12 Qc2 a5 13 Rad1 Nd7 ? 14 B: g7! K: g7 15 Bg4 main idea which popped up in correspondence chess, main idea to trade bishop on knight d7 and maybe play a4,b3 to close queenside
And in this position tis very hard to play for Black
15...Nc5 standard is bad after 16e5!
15...Ne5 is bas either after 16 c5
15...Qb6 16 B: d7 B: d7 17 Nd5 Qd8 18 Qb3 also better for white
15...Qc7 natural move avoiding xray with rook on d1
16 Nd5 B: d5 20 ed Nc5 typical for Black aiming to leave with good Knight versus bad white light squared bishop, but actually here White is also much better, the plan is play Re1 on e7 pawn which is weak and block a4 ,b3 quenside and play in the center and kingside with moves such as h4,h5,
Sight error on 15 Qc7 also is good 16B: d7 and Nd5
...in the Accel Dragon line
Any books to improve my analytical skills. 1700 fide
Check out my book recommendation videos?!
Sicilian dragon variation with fianchetto bishop, your welcome 😎😇
Those bishops in the thumbnail look like richards.
ANDRAS: SF14 says BxBg7 is best, and does NOT like Bd3, pulling back, fyi. Might want to look at that. thanks
I understand that its a bad plan in the higher rank, but its it a bad plan in the lower rank?, i mean, if you take away the fianchettto bishop to a kings indian player, they get very very sad, thanks for the video, now i know when to trade my fianchetto bishop
The value of a plan is (should be) irrespective of level. YOur goal is to play the best moves against everyone in every position!
Sheeeesh my dirty mind thought those aren’t chess pieces those are butt plugs! In the thumbnail
Scintilating thumbnail.
oh, just realised how rubbish i am