How To EASILY BEAT The Fianchetto Setup
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loving the logical chess episodes so far! lesson learned is not give up your bishop since theyre very good at controlling the diagonals!
With regards to tip 7, “pieces are not the only thing worth something.” All too true. There are three main advantages one can have in a game of chess:
1) material advantage. This is the easiest to determine, just add up the value of the captured pieces on both sides. Whomever has the largest number has a material advantage.
2) positional advantage. This is difficult to determine until you get some experience. This can take into account things like; batteries, open files, opponent’s undefended pieces or pawns, kings lined up with major pieces (queen, or one of the rooks), doubled or isolated pawns, weak squares, etc…
3) temporal advantage. This type of advantage is mercurial and can change in an instant with one inaccurate move, but most often shows up in zugzwang, or when a player is trying to maintain the initiative. At the beginning of the game, white has a minute temporal advantage; they get to move first.
During a chess game, these advantages often trade with one another; a player will offer a pawn (material) for more development (position), or the use an advantage in position to gain material, or a mating attack. I’d even go so far as to say this is the essence of a chess game; knowing when to trade one type of advantage for another. 😊
Never thought about that all together. Thanks
Great analysis. After analyzing most games I play I do agree that all three have to be taken into consideration when playing a chess match. A player be up material however the tempo can change because the player down material will mount a last stand attack.
In a fianchetto set up with white, you don't normally play h3, but if you do, Kh2 will always follow. So it is not easy at all to beat the fianchetto set-up unless white is a Troll.
Sure because it's a Great ones opening
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im not sure if this is good or not but i typically do h3 and Kh2, however im like 1050 so yeah
This channel is giga-underrated
I love how you taught me to completely CRUSH the Finchetto setup. I played it against an International Master today In NYC Bridge Park and we set to play the English and I totaly BEAT him even having the FIDE rating of 1963
That's sick bro!! Congrats!
@@simonchen6698yea I have to agree, congrats on that! :)
I know you're a busy individual and I appreciate the free content you've given us so far but could you put all the logical chess videos in a playlist on your channel?
They are, sir/maam. Check his channel page and search for "Chess Vibes Book Club".
its fascinating how one move that "you normally play" but isn't correct for that position can kill your game. I do Kings Indian as one of my main opens and i always ignore that bishop in the beginning. I'll get him eventually but that white squared bishop is a pivotal piece
Great video, as always! Lol, I have a buddy who almost exclusively plays the King’s Indian (on both sides of the board), and I invariably use some of these same principles (which I actually learned from some of your previous videos), to devastating effect. I’m not significantly better at the game than he is, but I’ve learned that every time I put my bishop on g4 he tries to kick it with h3, inducing a long term weakness that I target later. Because I almost always play Bg4, sometimes he even preemptively plays h3 just to prevent Bg4 (which is great for me lol). I have about a 5 to 1 win ratio against him using this simple strategy. I’ve even told him that moving pawns in front of his king is a bad idea, but he still can’t resist trying to kick that bishop. Very powerful move.
This is such a wonderful series, because it's easy to find videos or use stockfish on tactical patterns, but much rarer to find good discussion of long term strategic weaknesses and how to capitalize on them. Love it. I'm still working on "don't blunder while building up long term advantage" but eventually we'll get there 😅
This is also why players often need a coach when they want to get even better. You'll need someone good at chess to tell you which moves are good moves you should keep in mind, which are some weird engine moves that it's only practical to play if you can calculate 20 moves of all possible lines
500k soon
Already 😊
I think this is the first video where I answered correctly every time you asked what the move should be! (I’m 1100) getting better with your videos!
i havent seen this channels videos in a few months but coming back was a shock! your commentary is much more fluid and paced well! keep up the good work!!!
Watching these videos begins to change the way I look on the board.
All of the sudden empty squares are meaningful and the value of certain structures becomes clearer.
I played chess for a long time but Nelson opened a the door for far more advanced view on the choreography of the pieces.
You're a great teacher, Nelson!
Loving this series Nelson.
You should put Episode 12 in the title as well
Thanks yet again , Nelson , can't believe white gave up the white squared bishop !! Your videos & your commentary are teaching me a lot . Looking forward to more 😊
thanks a lot that was very instructive
Really enjoying these, thank you! The once-a-week is a good place and good progression each game.
Yooo, congrats on 500k Nelson!!! 🎉
Thanks and nice video
Your videos are very helpful.
That was the quickest and the most quiet and informative game ever.😎
I LOVE your videos. you make chess so fun to learn
Congrats on 500k subscribers!
Hi still really appreciate your work with this series. Keep it up 💪
Congrats on 500k subs! 🎉
You're the best Nelson
awesome video!
Wow, you're a very talented teacher. Love your videos and have watched and learnt a lot from them. Btw do you take any kind of classes in real life?
Hi Nelson,
I am enthralled by what I have seen of this series.
Where can I find the playlist so I can start from the beginning?
Hey Nelson, you're a very good chess teacher. I've learned a lot from watching your informative videos. I got first dibs on your future book. I just wanted to know what kind of notation is used in that book, Logical chess move by move. Also, I have viewed lots of chess videos, but not one of them explain things in great detail as you do. You make learning much more enjoyable. My game has gotten better since I started watching your videos. Thank you.
Nelson, thanks very much for answering my question from last time
First rate lesson Nelson! Thx.
Glad to see this coverage! Would love a video on how to approach the King’s Indian Defense with the white pieces.
This book is available at my local library.... gonna have to check it out!!
11:04 😂 it’s over; start a game 😂
19:07 YEAHHHH!!!! RULES ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
The video was really great 👍.
Can you please make a video on the King's Indian defence for black !❤
Don't respond to a threat the way you always do hits home. Makes perfect sense, but good to be aware of!
At 15:15 I thought sacraficing the knight on e3 would be the best move. Looking pretty good. If white takes back, black takes on on g3 threatening mate on h7. To stop mate white have to sac the rook and queen for rook and pawn. If white takes on f1 we simply take back and mate is unstoppable.
1. @2:45 its clear white is casting king side, so if i was playing black i would seriously consider casting queen side
2. 6:45 i would probably play rook d8 first
At 17:48 you mentioned that White is totally fine after not getting the pawn back. What do you mean by that? From a human perspective, losing a pawn is actually a huge deal. It's also not easy to get it back, right? But I don't think that's the actual error. I think the error is when White did not see the positional tactic Bxf3 and should have played Kh2 instead to defend the hook pawn with the king.
its crazy I know I am improving when you say to pause the video and guess the next move and I am guessing the correct move everytime great content.
Logical chess by Irving Chernev. The first chess book I ever read.
Thank you! Now we know how to deal with this position when opponent is impatient and breaks it by himself. Unfortunately, we still want to know how to make him do it, and what to do if he doesn't.
5:20 Qd2 was a great alternative right?
It's too late for h3 after the bishop has already attacked the f3 knight with Bg4. I do h3 to prevent that attack in the first place.
White's biggest problem is the two white pawns blocking his own queen from coming across to help defend his king.
Re the last question: Ba3 becomes a bad bishop as the chain of black pawns blocks it out of play. You want to watch out when developing pieces not to place them where they will get stuck and become irrelevant.
When white took the knight he may not have wanted to move the bishop backward as well, a flaw i certainly possess
You’re a good teacher
In the key position/At the start, why did White played Be3 blocking the Pawn?
The Pawn was so important that he could let the Rook out instead of a cramped position at the end.
I've seen this done quite a bit in the English and other closed games. It gets the bishop to a more active (though also exposed) square and allows the Rook to go to c1. It's not mandatory, but it also gets it out of the way of the queen. These closed and semi-opened games tend to not give the closed side a lot of space to move around in.
4:09 what is white trades the light squared bishop and puts all of his pawns on light squares. Isn't that a good way to counter the bishop? Or is it a bad plan? Coz I saw Many GMs do this.
6:50 i was thinking about e4 to hopefully somehow make noise on the d file and maybe overloading the queen due to the then hanging knight.
how to easily beat the fianchetto setup...need the opponent to ruin their own fianchetto setup
7:06 but you win a pawn and also going to annoy your opponent a lot with their pawn structure.
9:27 I don't think its a good idea to trade that bishop for 1 pawn. Black's gonna have an easy way to attack. yeah, white went from +0.1 to -0.7 with just 1 move, weakening the king's safety and losing the amazing bishop pair
11:05 its threatening the bishop on e3, if it is traded then g3 pawn is undefended. can't find the second one. nvm, I saw that but didn't expect that count as a threat.
12:08 f5? just checked stockfish and it said white went from -0.6 to -2.9 with just Qe3
12:58 f4? 13:10 nah, I am 1400 and I only have 1 thing in mind when playing chess: checkmate the king, no matter the cost. I wasn't even sure I would even recapture if white capture that bishop. nvm, stockfish said taking back is better.
14:19 f3, exf3, Nf4, just completely ignore that pawn and white have no way to stop mate. (yeah stockfish also said that)
15:20 black just lose 4 point of advantage by ignoring that.
Why did black not play C6 in the opening to blunt White's bishop?
Is developing the NC6 better than blunting the white bishop with C6?
I would appreciate a response.
Sir, why both knights ended up on one side, like on Queen side ? What's the logic of king side knight retracting to Queen side !
Thanks !
This is not a King's Indian but a Classical Dragon with colours reversed.
What's the rating of the people who played this game? Just curious?
Good vid
Dont be sidetracked by irrelevant moves when on the offense was the word of day
Don't over sell C4. The fact that almost no one plays it is the only advantage I have when I almost always do.
11:25 they are not going to play that one it’s to long; they will build a defense up quick against that one
Finchentto is a solid setup I think... SNIPERS IN CHESS
12:40, why bishop to b4?
Nothing wrong with C4 ...
Boom !
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Can you teach the caro?
3:43 video starts here.
12:12 why not playing bishop b4?
Queen ist defending the Position, so why dont chase her away?
Nelson if my opponent exposed his king how do I attack king .it would be hard to attack the king even if he move pawns in front of king
Do not expect to create a forced checkmate. Rather, you have to keep your queen on the board and look for (and calculate) tactical opportunities. Maybe you can sacrifice one of your pieces for one of the pawns remaining in front of the king and then fork the king and another more valuable piece with the queen. Maybe you can push one your pawns to open up the king even more and then fork the king and another piece directly. Or threaten to fork to gain another advantage.
However, it's very rarely trivial, and once the queens are exchanged you often have very little advantage unless the enemy king is WIDE open and you still have bishops and rooks.
Side note: If your opponent has a lot of pieces between his king and the pushed pawns the king is often quite secure. The Leningrad Dutch is an example where the black king in not nearly as vulnerable as it looks like at first glance.
How to easily crush the Fianchetto setup if White does silly things like h3 and exchanging the Fianchetto'd bishop.
I can absolutely see why White trading off that Bishop was bad, but what should White be thinking about doing instead? Surely they need to create a threat of their own somewhere?
Why get the king out of its starting square? It has less room to maneuver over in the corner.
And there are far more instructions available on how to attack a castled king position than there are otherwise.
We want a rating climb❤
Don't you tell them how to beat my favorite opening!
h3,next move Nh2should still works.
11:42. White moves the rook to h6. Black has to move tge queen and tgreat is gone
Then black would be up a rook and bishop for a pawn. I’d trade everything and win an easy end game, if no checkmates are obvious. You can’t go down that amount of material and hope to win. Remember white’s concern earlier about being down a single pawn (which lead to a mistake)?
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Ok, so how can you EASILY BEAT The Fianchetto Setup? Just wait for your opponent to make a mistake - trade his fianchettoed bishop for your knight. That was really easy, thank you for the lesson
❤that is my biy!
i literally just today failed miserably to beat this
Long story short: hope they give up the fianchetto bishop
Sorry, not a good description. I was expecting a guide against the fianchetto setup, instead white plays bad moves with giving up the white squared bishop, which makes it easy for black.
Them pawn storms are annoying
So... The way to get through that defence is to rely on opponent's mistake? And what do I do if my opponent is doing literally nothing? Just, let's say, moving his king. And yet there's no space for my pieces to break in without pushing my pawns
How is this dismantling the fianchetto set up when it relies on white making the terrible decision to trade their white squared bishop? No one would do that in a real game.
That was from a real game!
Those mistakes are also very common at lower ELO levels, against higher rated players usually a Sacrifice is required if you don't/ can't use Pawns and can't trade off equal coloured Bishops.
White played that KID attack terribly. Be3 was an awful move. Instead of opening with c4, just start with nf3. Then whites c pawn will be able to be played to c3 where it belongs.
This is a reversed Sicilian (Accelerated Dragon), not a King's Indian. The game was played by Rudolf Pitschak and Salo Flohr in 1934, so theory was low by today's standards, particularly since white is under 2500. That is presumably why he gave up his Dragon bishop so lightly; I doubt even an average club player would make such a decision these days. Anyone watching this video and thinking this will be an easy way for them to break down a king's position behind a bishop on g2 or g7 in general, rather than just for this specific game, is delusional and it is essentially click-bait to suggest that might be the case.
but pawns can't go back!!
Title is misleading. Black have the upper hand only because White is playing badly. After ...Bg4 is hard for White to play d3-d4 later. So White should play on the queenside with a2-a3. h2-h3 is a bad move.
This is so silly, so your great tip for us is to hope the other player blunders?
7:57 why you said pretty? What is pretty you said?
How To EASILY BEAT The Fianchetto Setup if the opponent throws away his best defender for no reason.
But interesting nevertheless.
Lots of good material in here, but I'd like to see how to easily beat a fianchetto setup if my opponent doesn't sacrifice their bishop in a useless manner. I'm still a relative noob but I cringed when he went after than knight.
Is it me or is your audio stuttering every now and then?
Come on Neslon. Play 960. Prove you KNOW chess! Or are you just another memory player like Fischer talked down to? Would Fischer dog walk you with the bongcloud? You're no N. Short
Why did you make this video? I play kings indian for black and now I’m gonna get roasted for the foreseeable games to come 😭
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Settle down Beavis.
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plot twist : it is one of chess 960 games that has same position as original chess.
@@user-uv9po2zp1iI didn’t know that
Well, you got your wish. New video dropped bruh.
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10:55 Black Knight to F4; you have to take the knight or its checkmate.
Take with the bishop or pawn; I take with the pawn. ♟️ if you don’t take; I’ll take;
You take pawn on F4 I’ll check with queen on G3 and take the pawn
You move that queen to E1 and I’ll move my black bishop to H4
You don’t take I’ll have pawn on G3 and play checkmate on my turn next
Turn it off and set the pieces back up. The dude lost real bad after he traded off his white bishop
Then when dude didn’t move his king away afterwards; over with 😂