Forgotten Realms Lore - The Shade Enclave
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2017
- Episode 17 - Return of the Netherese!! Thultanthar returns to Faerun as the Shade Enclave bent on destroying the weave for their goddess Shar. All in all, it's pretty intense.
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Here 6 years later because of the upcoming release of Baldur's Gate 3. I may be late, but I wanted to thank you for this amazing playlist.
It's a good thing the Shadovar still had the floating city of Sakkors so they could res-estab... oh wait.. nope, it crashed too. Nevermind.
wait mythdranor survived? damn I didn't see that anywhere else so I just figured it was completely destroyed.
I like how you use unrelated pictures from different games and such nothing to do with Faerun. It is like a minigame for me and I am having fun when I know where the original pictures came from, haha :D
wonderful episode. lots of call backs to the last Mythal series, Eliminster series, and Cale stories
I just got onto youtube and this is the first video I see, I can't wait to watch it!
Are you ever going to talk about the events of Pool of Radiance? Just seems topical whenever Myth Drannor comes up.
You missed the part where Larloch wanted to be the goddess of magic and was destroyed by one of the seven sisters by sacrificing her self stopping larloch.
Jorphdan, great video! Enjoy your Friday! 💯🙏🙌
Love your channel! Keep up the brilliant work! 👍🏾😁
Thanks!
oh look at that dark crystal
good information
Love the Citizen Kane reference. Well played.
So I was creating a Ranger character using Xanathar's guide to make a ranger and one of his qualities is that he inhabited an ancient forest that bordered the Shadowfell. He also fought in some battles, was wounded by magic, and some of his siblings died. When I rolled for their deaths, many of them were tortured to death. I heard a bit about Netheril in the Brimstone Angels series and they were described as being sadistic. Would it make sense for my ranger and his siblings to have been fighting off Shadovar incursions from the Shadowfell?
Yeah check out the Shandovar-Thay war
Thanks Jorphdan! You’re the first I’ve discovered to discuss Evereska. Do you have any videos on it?
Not yet but I just finished a video on Evermeet, Evereska is on my list too!
Of course Elminster is involved someway, he seems to be everywhere at all times all at once
I love the Fey Ri!!! I wish I had novels on them.
I neeed so much more lore jorphdan, I wish there was a DnD public library somewhere
Try the forgotten realms wiki! Or read the novels from your local library 😀
In the last book of the Sundering the last survivors of the Netheril shade family that were on the Shade Enclave when it fell and survived are two princesses and one prince that are Telemont's grand children that are stuck on a mount side. The last actual prince and son Telemont that survived is Clariburnus Tanthul who was in Neverwinter when this happened.
Maybe Mask 1 Cale and 2 Assassin can't remember his name killed them off book?
Netheril is forever! Its agents are everywhere...
Hello Jorphdan...I have just been watching a lot of your videos and found them interesting. Detailed but not long, which is awesome to get some good general and in-depth information. While watching all these videos I got to this one and wondered if he (you) ever covered the other floating city of Netheril (Opus) that escaped Karsus Folly. I didnt see it and wonder if you could could consider looking into it and perhaps cover the floating city that directly opposed Shade Enclave. Enclave Opus...while Shade Enclave are worshipers of Shar, Opus worship Selune. I believe the name of the city is Selûnarra.
I did not know about this! I'll do some research sounds like a great topic! Thanks :D
@@Jorphdan glad I could bring it to your attention.
I’m going to be using these guys as one of the villains in my next home brew campaign so thanks
Awesome!!
I am already playing with them as the main villains in a campaign that goes on for more than a year now! It's awesome so far, the most powerful Netherese (bloodline of Telamont Tanthul) survived and fled. They still need to somehow find power, so they turned to the Zhentarim, who are one of the dominant powers in the Anauroch. The Zhent provide an army and the Shade provide Shadow Dragons for the Zhentarim. This way, both parties benefit from their collarboration and they can start attacking the more fruitful lands to the West, where the party comes from.
This campaign has everything: bit of political intrigue and corruption, Dragons, threat of war, an unstable alliance between the enemy, which can be exploited with successful espionage etc... much fun so far! My player's seem to like the setting
grinskopf34122 Interesting, I’m going to have them trying to recover lost lore that they want to reclaim their former glory from Netheril which the characters have been hired to protect, which will eventually lead to a point where they realise that the person that they’re working for is a puppet for someone just as evil, and where they’ll have to pick a side for an upcoming conflict.
Plans got delayed because of Coronavirus though.
Great stuff
I remember reading this series. It was… a lot.
I'm reading the final novel of the Sundering series, The Herald, and just got spoiled lol. Elminster just teleported to Myth Dranor and now I know how that ends, not an issue though. Another great addition to your videos, informative but still light and fun. You've rekindled my love of the Forgotten Realms and I've been sucked back into the universe, thanks for that.
Oh no I'm sorry! But happy you're enjoying the videos and forgotten realms. :) My bad, I'll have to put spoiler warnings in the future.
No worries man, spoilers are a given, just got lucky to be reading relevant material.
Oh, so this is Lord Shadow. In a playthrough I had we found a tower that belonged to Thultanthar and returned it to him. He was grateful, but forced us to submit. Well, me. I threw a scroll of sending to our fighter/paladin and he contacted Lathander and saved him, but only him. The other party member got power word: killed and meanwhile I pooped my pants and agreed to serve Lord Shadow so I could live.
If you're interested in reading about the shadovar then check out the trilogy by Troy Denning. Had a lot of fun reading it. forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Return_of_the_Archwizards
+Player7 thanks!!
0:48 what if there was one in the elemental plane of air as well? I may answer in novel form
I think I will ignore all of that and make Shades my next villains.
0:23 Ahm, actually there was a second floating city that escaped the destruction of Netheril. Its name was Selûnarra, or Opus. Like Thultanthar it was moved out of the material plane and onto an external plane prior to Karsus's folly. But instead of being moved to the Plane of Shadow Selûnarra was moved to the Gates of the Moon, where it stayed.
2:14 As far as I know was the vast majority of Thultanthar's populace not made up by Shades. Becoming a Shade was a gift bestowed by Shar and an honor comparable to becoming a Chosen of a deity.
6:04 If my memory serves me right then the actual reason for the Shades trying to convert the weave was that the Shadow Weave was inadvertently destroyed by the Spell Plague. I say "inadvertently" because Shar was co-responsible for that "Realms shaking Event", since it was she who helped Cyric murder Mystra.
Read the book the sentinel there wEre a lot of shade warriors that were fodder no where near close to chosen...and the events of erevis cale series will tell you that during events of the spell plague the shadow weave was in tact that shar just wanted to take the weave for her self so she could subjugated the gods and mortals
*Nom nom nom* feed us more lore
"...Elminster won the duel...
Right... Duel lol.
Elminster remains a peerless Mage xD
Cool stuff! Got a little messy around 3/4 in but still very good :)
Great vid except for one minor point - Myth Drannor did NOT survive the crash of Shade...
What do you think is the future of the Forgotten Realms and perhaps DnD as a whole with so few novelists working on the lore and history of the Forgotten Realms?
+Konstantin Krastev good question. No new novels so I think the story will be in there adventures. Maybe we'll hear more with the announcement June 2nd
On my part, I don't think the world can survive without new novels. Look at Eberron, people need those heroes and those stories as another source of inspiration.
The authors add little "canonical" details to the world which gives it credibility. Where would DnD be without Drizzt, Elminster and tons of other smaller heroes?
+Konstantin Krastev yep I agree. The main reason there is so much lore is because the novels could flesh out the world, with characters you love.
I think we just got the answer more or less revealed, they are going to expand the world with the new adventures. I suppose they are going to diversify them more across the realms possibly involve other people that have worked on DnD into this multiverse setup.
They are trying to force that your sessions are cannon nonsense a bit too hard, but what can you do.
Hopefully such a rich world like the Forgotten Realms won't die the way Eberron did.
+Konstantin Krastev I hear if the DnD movie does well they may start the novels again. Hopefully they're on a momentary pause.
I'm starting to think floating cities are a stupid idea.
Netherese are back
And what are you guys talking about no more books ra Salvatore just came out with timeless an awesome book which I would assume there’s going to be a sequel
Since Halloween I’ve been playing a character that comes from a surviving cell of Thultanthar who managed to salvage some research from house Orogoth.
They attempted to recreate a dragon that was neither chromatic nor metallic, closer to Io, and thought that the key was Dragonborns, who according to legends sprung just like Bahamut and Tiamat from the ancient god’s blood.
So she’s a very young red and gold Dragonborn sorcerer of the draconic bloodline, stuck in Barovia, and intends to show Strahd what his Shadowfell neighbors are made of.
Hate to say it but this guy needs to get his lore correct. Shar control's the shadow weave there for it is her who decides who gets to use it and experiment. She knew Thultanthar was experimenting with it but did not know it would warp his mind in little ways. It was shar who allowed the floating city to transverse into the shadow realm with the help of the casting. Thultanthar wanted to kill all the pharim and reestablish the Netherease empire however the study of blue fire items was paramount in bring back the goddess of magic as such is all history.
Hey Jorphdan, is the "ph" silent?
As a D&D lore noob I want you to know your vids have been absolutely brilliant for me! Thumbs Up on all your vids bro.
BTW- why not just change the spelling for your "UA-camr Name"?
+MrKMPT but then I wouldn't be Jorphdan the PH is silent. I'd have to get a new twitter handle. It's be awful.
Jorphdan I can see your logic there.
What dose the DR mean in DnD calandar?
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@@Jorphdan Thank you :)
17,000 years?
yea, this was a eyebrow raiser for me as well
I'm assuming he meant to say "seventeen hundred years" since Karsus Folly occurred in -339 DR and Thultanthar returned in 1372 DR, 1711 years later.
please do a video on the upside down
Yeah, the Shadovar were pretty much the only thing interesting about Faerun to me, so I guess there ends my interest in the setting.
Question: You say they lived in the Plane of Shadow for 17.000 years, but the dawn of the Netherese Empire is not that old at all. More like 6000 years old... So, did you mis-speak, or what?
Cheers!
Old video so I'm not sure if I misspoke, but time does move differently in the shadowfell
@@Jorphdan Ahh... that might be it. I didn't think of different time aspect of the plane... gonna look that up! :) EDIT: So, as far as I can tell, the plane of shadow has normal time... At least in 3.5... And I can't find any reference to the Shadowfell in 3.X, so I assume either that you meant the Plane of Shadow or that its some retconning by WotC?
I'm not trying to point out flaws or anything, I'm legitimately curious to why or from where you had the 17k number of years! :) Love your stuff! I'm a heavy consumer! :)
Your name is not Jordan. Sorry.