Mercury 20 hp Pull Start Repair
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2021
- My Customer dropped this 20 hp Mercury after he tried to repair the pull start himself. He bought many new parts to replace the worn out components. After several unsuccessful attempts he asked me to see if I could get it to work correctly. These can be a little tricky to get them right so watch this video and maybe it will help you get yours working again.
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Thanks for the help! My rebuild was a success. This 1974 merc shall be water bound once more. Amazingly we can still find parts and rebuild these great motors.
Joshua Brunk …. Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate you taking the time to share your enthusiasm about these great motors.
Thats all I needed! THANK YOU SO MUCH! :)
Thank you for the video. I inherited my dad's 1974 mercury 200 20 horse outboard. I tried several hours getting the pull cord right. I could get it to grab but not retract. Then made adjustments and it would retract but not grab. I finally gave up. My son eventually got it right but I wasn't there to see how he did it. That thing is frustrating to say the least
They can be frustrating. Sorry to hear you had so much trouble with yours. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m in the same boat literally lol
Thank you so much! I needed this video
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for making this video! I couldn’t figure out how to wind the coil without everything falling apart. This saved me time and my sanity! Awesome job!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I’m glad it helped.
In the effort of avoiding trial and error, do you know if there is a complete setup sold (with the new spring, plates, bolt, etc) that is already assembled and ready to go?
You could try eBay to buy a complete used one. You could also try www.marineengine.com and buy each piece individually. If you purchase the spring separately it will come bound using some sort of zip tie in order to assemble it the same way I show you in the video. I hope this helps good luck
I have one of these. The electronic ignition 'box' on the true stbd side is stuffed. Any idea where I might get a new one from
Terry Broad...Try www.marineengine.com they might have one in stock or EBay.
Hello.. thanks for this video . HOWEVER, i need to know how you attached to the rope to the plate. My existing rope is attached on the side ring portion before exiting ( i have pictures) the rope is very stiff and I don't know how i would get the new rope to follow the same path. Can't find any specific videos.
The rope must be the same diameter as the old. Also a new rope should come with a metal pin at one end that ties off with a figure eight knot. A Mercury Seloc Service Manual shows the ropes path in good detail. I would suggest purchasing one on-line at www.marineengine.com or eBay.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair thanks for response, i have the rope, got.it from a marina near me. I ened up using attaching a wire to pin end of the old rope, pulled it through, then attached the wire to the new rope, pulled it th through. Tedious but got it done.
My 2016 mercury 9.9 pro kicker pull cord will not pull out of the engine. The electric start works just fine, but the pull cord will not budge. I just wanna make sure that it works in case my electric is ever not working. If you have any tips, post them here. I think this video will help me get a sense of how this works and I will investigate very soon.
I have a question. I have a Mercury 110 9.8hp that I have to replace the pull rope on Stupid me already took it apart and now I have to try to wind it back up. It’s exactly like this one your doing here except mine had the groove in the bolt with a washer that fits INS’s groin and then has a tab that sits down it too of assembly. So mine won’t wind like
This one. I need help bad. I already got the top. When I try to rewind it I end up losing it and it spins back out on me. Pls help! 🙏🏼
What direction are you turning the screw to wind it? You should be turning it counterclockwise to tighten it. You need to wind it until you feel it is about to spin back and lock it down . You just need enough tension on the spring to pull the rope back in. I hope this helps.
Thank you so much
Great information because it told the direction (counterclockwise) to wind spring with flathead and lock with wrench. Although we can’t see through your arm. I realize how difficult it is filming but have someone help in the process. Giving you a like bc you did help and I sure as hell don’t expect you to redo it but next time make sure your work can be seen otherwise most people won’t benefit
Thank you for your input. I appreciate the constructive criticism. I will make sure to do things better in the future. Thanks for watching.
Agreed! I can't see how to install the dogs. Need a shot of orientation of those things!
@@edwardschrank4803 Sorry it was not visible. The Dogs must have the divot up so that they are visible. Then they can only go one way to work properly. This will become evident once you put them in place. Again sorry for not making it visibly clear.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair Thank you. I just picked up what looks like the same outboard and the recoil was jammed up. I took it apart and the spring has a tear in it and was all jacked up. From what I can tell from your video, someone had this apart and put it together wrong. I can't tell where the large wavy washer and "dished out" part you show at 4:05 goes (and a larger bushing). Mine had it mounted on the spring side. It certainly looks like yours is on the dogs side, but when I try it in that position, the d bolt won't seat right. There may be some wrong parts in this build. Thanks for this video, absolutely the only one I have found with this starter.
Was going to comment same thing. Elbow in the way in most scenes making difficult to see exactly what parts were being worked with
where did your customer order the d-plate and bolt for the spring retainer part nu.
Ronnie Roberts… my customer ordered the part (D-bolt part number 61003) & (retainer Plate part number 65890) from www.marineengine.com
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair Thanks for the info, working on the same motor now.
I have a 73 4hp and discovered "the hard way" that the top nut is left handed theads. What is the part number for that d-bolt?
The parts number is 61003 and can be found at www.marineengine.com for around $58.00
Can I just send you mine and have you repair it and maybe make another video without the elbow in the way, mabe a little better camera angle.
Irv Scha…. I could do that. Send me an email at livetofishoutboardrepair@gmail.com and I’ll send you my address. As long as you pay for the repair $35 plus parts & shipping.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair thank you soo much for your reply. It seems I spoke too soon. After watching your video I took recoil off engine lubricated it real well and it now works much better. Thank you for your offer to repair. I will contact you If more problems arise. Thanks, Irvin, Granite City, Ill.
Did you add any type of lubrication to the spring or pawls?
I believe I just used WD-40 or something similar.
Is it same procedure for a 1976 7.5 hp Mercury pull start?
Jeffrey Indiana … very similar
Could you let me know where you found your parts please? Thank you
Parts were purchased at www.marineengine.com and EBay. Thanks for watching and commenting.
where did you get the upgraded parts who manufactured the
Randy Tharp … The upgraded parts were purchased at www.marineengine.com.
Even with tension on the spring mine will not recoil any ideas why?
@michaeltoninton9424…. If you have some tension you probably don’t have enough. You may need keep turning the screw counterclockwise at least 10 turns to get enough tension on the spring to get it to recoil.
Is it possible to tell me where you ordered the parts from. I’m in need of same kit
Skillmans post … you should be able to find everything you need www.marineengine.com
Much appreciated.. I also emailed you from my other contact. Much appreciated for the swift reply. God Bless
i don’t understand how the teeth come out and retract to start the motor pulling my hair out trying to fix this
Goats Bee… the teeth are called dogs and they come out from centrifugal forces when pulling the rope. The dogs retract by via a small spring when you release the rope. They are held in using bow washers that allow the dogs to pivot. The bow washers are supposed to be replaced with new ones when servicing the starter.
Cant find a video how to put the cord in... is it a damn secret?
It's not a secret but you could purchase a Solac service manual and it will show you how to insert it for your particular model. Most of them use a stainless steel pin that holds the end of the pull rope inside the sheath.
Thanks for the video, you make it look easy, I worked on mine for 2 hr and still not right, mine has a small return spring on one of the pawls (dogs) what a pain in the ass, thought I had it together and then I dropped the tab washer on the floor and cant find it, will have to get another, did you have two of the tabs on that washer going in the housing (down) and fold two (up) on the nut to lock the nut? also did you use the "pin" in the rope or just tied a knot? thanks again, maybe there is hope for mine and won't end up on the bottom of the lake. lol
Sorry to hear your having such a hard time with it. I know they can be frustrating at times. Both tabs should be down and at least one tab up to secure the nut. The pin was already installed on the new rope so I left it on. This particular model didn’t have a provision for the pin but it seemed to me to leave it as the last line of defense just in case the knot failed. Good luck!
Everything I needed to see was blocked by your elbow
Sorry about that. if I get the opportunity I will make another video and film it over my shoulder or from the side. Thanks for commenting.
Needed to know how to put a new cord on it. Especially how to anchor it on the sheave. Otherwise good discussion.
Dave Culm … Sorry for not covering the rope installation. I’m glad the video gave you some help. Thanks for watching.
That's what I needed.....
Do ya think knowing the YEAR might help? Seeing it TAKEN APART might share a HINT or two also..........
Mark Weaver…. That is true, however the owner brought it to me completely disassembled. He attempted to put it back together himself but was unsuccessful. Also these pull starters are classified by Type A -H And are used on many different years and model numbers.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair It was sticking out of it at the beginning of the video.....
Mark Weaver … like I said the owner tried to fix it himself using the old parts then decided to send me new parts. He did not assemble it correctly so showing it being disassembled in the video would have been pointless.
ok. I have the rope attached, I'm confused on how to tighten the spring. The "lock" washer won't allow the bolt to turn. your video (except for the elbow) made it look too easy.
Sorry about the elbow. You need to turn the nut and the bolt counterclockwise to wind the rope inside, then continue to turn the bolt counterclockwise but also turn the nut periodically in the same direction to keep tension on the spring. As you turn the bolt counterclockwise the nut will want to loosen so keep tightening the nut and you should begin to feel more and more tension on the spring. Once you have as much tension as you can hold with the screwdriver tighten the nut securely and lock it down with the lock washer. The lock washer tabs should be flat until you are ready to bend the tabs down and up into position.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair You can only do all that without the locking washer. The washer has that notch into the screw and latches to the top of the motor. Did you not use that washer? thanks
@@sbeckett1980 I use the locking washer but you must flatten it out first then re-install it. It should spin as you turn the bolt. Once you have adequate tension on the spring tighten down the nut and position the locking washer over the notches. Use a hammer and punch to set the locking tabs.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair thank you thank you.. i would have never thought of doing that.. seems hokey.. but it worked. I'm all done now.. thanks again..
Ok when you start winding does the rope retract in first before you get the tension tight?
Not impressed with this video of someone's arm
When you're winding the spring you say to turn it clockwise but you are turning it counter clockwise....???
You are correct sorry about the confusion.
I've got the exact motor except mine has red instead of the blue.... first off, thank you for the video it helped me get mine back together. But I have a problem. The "clutch dogs" don't spin out to engage . When I turn it with my hand they stick out just like you did in the video, but when I pull the cord they don't. Dogs are in the correct way, spring is in and wound the correct direction. I thought I had it when I realized that I had spring in the wrong way but even after putting spring in correct way the dogs still won't come out when cord is pulled..... got any ideas?... suggestions?
Did you remember to install the wave washers with the clutch dogs? If so, they may be worn out. The service manual recommends replacing them when servicing.
@@LivetofishOutboardRepair Thanks for the video, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have completely unrelated question about the same motor. I want to add electric start, I have teeth on flywheel and I can see where the frame is setup to accept a starter. This model number is barely available anymore, a-50-4721a2. The internet does not off any suggestion on alternatives. But I'm thinking any other 10 tooth starter that I can find a way to mount should work. Might you know of any? To me it appears this might work, but I have no way to know. 50-41583 1980-1987 410-21049 Any advice is appreciated!
Try www.dbelectical.com they may have a replacement starter for your motor.