1963-03-30 : Jose Gonzalez 158 lbs beat Rubin Carter 160¼ lbs by TKO in round 6 of 10 Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA Referee: Petey Della Judge: Joe Armstrong Judge: Al Berl Rubin Carter has a very strong 2nd round, but suffers a cut over the right eye in the process. Rumored Carter suffered from a detached retina in his right eye from this bout with Gonzalez, and fought on despite the eye issues not having the eye problem addressed so as to continue his boxing career. A prison fight shortly after his incarceration in 1967 in which he was hit in the right eye made his right eye worse. Carter claimed a lack of immediate and proper medical care to address the eye in prison caused him permanent blindness in his right eye after an eventual operation which attempted (and failed) to correct his detached retina.[[1]]
Isn't youtube wonderful? This footage was taken atleast 40 years ago and I just got to watch it just by clicking and writing some stuff on a page. This comment had nothing to do with the clip that just came into my mind.
@@ingenuitas the article starts by saying that the hurricane was NEVER a civil right activist, then claims Rubin shot the men, randomly, to avenge for the death of a black bartender by a white man. So he gave up his freedom for a civil rights cause and killed three men, or wasn't involved in civil rights activism? Pick a lane.
Jackson would have killed Carter, just like Carter killed three innocent people when he robbed that bar in New Jersey. Compare Carter’s Boxing record to Jackson’s and you’ll immediately see why Carter wouldn’t have beaten Jackson even if Carter had a Baseball Bat..
@@REBEL368KSW Lol. how contradictory. You say Rubin was harmless even with a baseball bat but definitely murdered three “innocent” people. You just mad.
@punkrok6 Everyone lost fights they 'should have' won. The problem with this is To 'stretch the truth' right from the start of the movie brings everything else into question. The fact of the matter is Giardello won,even Carter was big enough to admit that.
jeez ive never really watched old school boxing like this before, they look a breed apart from the fighters today, much stronger and much more resilient than whats on offer these days
Spit your lies hate somewhere else. We don't need your opinion and we don't care. Rubin "Hurricane" Carter is a hero, one of a kind, and you can't do nothing about it TROLL ^ ^. This was my first and last reply to you. May You Rest In Peace or In Piss if you like it better ;-).
When Dylan started to get the "real" facts around his hero Carter, he realized that he "Fucked Up" big time. He has not sung that song in over 4 decades for good reason......He fucked up!
I have the utmost respect for Ruben Carter. He was wrongfully convicted. justice isn't always justice. I learned that on my own. I agree he wasn't the best in Boxing but I also think he could have been had he had the proper training. It was a much different time back in the sixties. people were very predjiduce.
There was not a Jr MW division in those days. It’s a made up division so the governing bodies of criminals can have more champions who have to pay them a few to be champion. It’s all bogus.
I saw the illustration in the movie. The officers that aimed that trap against Hurricane would have been in the jail untill their the rest of their miserable "lives".
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
@@kunkkahuskar3979 thats not necessarily true, Alexis Arguello, Deontay Wilder, Thomas Hearns, Terence Crawford are huge punchers who have skinny legs, that was just off the top of my head. Besides the quality of film, and the shorts they wore makes their legs look skinnier and less defined than if you see higher quality still images of them
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Carter is faster, hit harder too, better boxer. Hagler is mentally stronger and didn't get unconfident if his opponent was getting hurt by his power, Carter gave up whenever his opponent wasnt fazed by his punch. He always started off dominant but would fade after his opponent wasnt getting hurt he wasnt very confident about winning if his opponent was fazed by his power.
Marvin Hagler stole Carter's line: "my muscles have got muscles". Both these guys were heavy into steroids durng their boxing careers and it really showed in their physiques.
Your an idiit. I boxed with Marvin in the old petronelli gym at 52 center street in Brockton in 76. He always had that build. And he had no money for steroids, just a million dollar heart snd chin...fool!
In the last two years before he killed three innocent people and went to prison, Carter’s record was 3 wins, 3 losses, and one draw, so it’s hardly like he was ANY kind of “Contender” for ANYTHING other than the job of Tier Runner. Giardello had beaten the brakes off Carter more than 3 years prior, and Carter was never the same afterwards. His winning percentage AFTER Giardello was something like .375 or at most .415, he literally had a LOSING RECORD even before he murdered three totally innocent people in that bar..
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
That isn’t style in my opinion boxing has grown since if you haven’t noticed. Train for month and come comment you’ll understand much better I get its easy to say that but cmon Mike Tyson didn’t have a great style but the power and ability to get on the inside, worked for him. These guys lead with their head and are very flat footed. Clearly your just a viewer and have no idea what your seeing.
@@joearispe337 Mike Tyson style isn't great what? Mike Tyson used the peek a boo style which allowed him to slip under punchers and used angles to pivot into position to counter. Mike Tyson relied on counter punching. Hurricane Carter actually used jabs and had a side ways stance which made him a smaller target which also fought in a crounch which made him a smaller target. I actually work out as a boxer buddy so don't be ignorant buddy. Go and watch his fights in full.
@@joearispe337 You don't know boxing where has boxing "grown"? most modern boxers can't even fight on the inside or even slip punches. You also said Mike Tyson style wasn't great... I actually know quite a bit about boxing so I can assure you your opinion is completely wrong. Hurricane Carter wasn't flat foot and actually variety up his punches. So instead of basing your opinion off a snippet of one of fights actually study him and his opponents.
I grew up believing him innocent but now if u look into all the evidence and what Artis his best friend and fellow murderer said you need to really look into it properly.
www.nj.com/opinion/2014/04/spare_us_the_lies_about_the_late_hurricane_carter_mulshine.html Somebody copied this link in the comments below and it doesn’t look good for the hurricane....😬
@@Joiedevivredesilives I bet he got a shorter sentence too or they told him what to say.This is not the first time this happened. Central Park 5 Another example and is on Netflix called Now when they see us. (True story)Can’t believe the cops especially back then because they were Super Racist/crooked thank god people can change.
@@antoniomosley9410 the nazis created alot of the drugs we use today. They created methadone, adderall just name a few. I googled this. I assumed you didn't otherwise you would've known your history. 🤙
@@antoniomosley9410 If they were in invented in the 30s. People were using them as Guinea pigs and the black market. They used methadone, adderall in WW2 cause Hitler's minions made the shit Hitler was a junky himself. Would have his nurse shoot him up multiple times a day. History is good
@@too_sturdy Those drugs were found in the Olympics which if you actually knew your sport history. The PEDs were highly used by the weight lifting Russians in the Olympics and slowly trinkled down to sports like basball,football and so on. The very last sport to actually get PEDs was boxing which boxers started using PEDs in the 80s. Hurricane Carter by simply looking at him shows he didn't have any form of PEDs in his system. Boxers were extremely poor and couldn't afford any form of PEDs. Again like I stated they tested for PEDs in those times and most if not all boxers pre 80s used none. Do you know anything about previous boxing eras on how they train and diet?
Completely immoral. The guys a hero, to be condemned for the color of his skin is a joke! Just started looking into the case about the triple murder, already noticing some inconsistencies with the case. Could never imagine the injustice the guy felt. RIP Rubin
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.@@TheBatugan77
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
@@antoniomosley9410 mate steroids were invented in the 30s. And were used in all sports from Olympics to boxing. I think you’re the misinformed one here.
@@dbzwwe56 The used steroids in the Olympics but never in boxing doing those times. Ever talked to actual boxing historian who knew these fighters in person? Have you actually studied these boxers? Your simple mind is confused. Boxers back then didn't need steroids or PEDs compared to modern fighters. Steroids wasn't even a thing in boxing until the 80s. So if you have some evidence of guys like Carter, Griffith, Robinson, even someone like Basilio using steroids then please be silent.
Littlebit English true, but there are maybe a handful of MWs in history Hagler wouldn't have destroyed in his prime. Monzon, Greb, Ketchel, Robinson and some of the tough men from the 50's maybe.
Littlebit English yah too bad leonard fucked him up. sugar ray was too fast for hagler trying to push Leonard back doesnt work cause leonard has great footwork. leonard hit hagler so many times that hagler started hitting himself. what does hagler and duran have in common ? they both quit when facing the great sugar ray
You could say that about a lot of great middleweights. The only guys I see holding their own against Hagler would be Robinson and Greb. Hagler would have hit Monzon from every angle.
@@kevinaraujo758 that's not true and you wouldn't say that if you knew the history of hacker, he always had to do extra to get what others got. They didn't like him and always erected obstacles in his way.hagler left boxing because he was heart broken and cheated.
![Rubin HURRICANE Carter vs. George Benton (HD/HQ) Highest Quality on YouTube [May.25th.1963]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3n10x4HqImU/mqdefault.jpg)
This is my grandfather rubin hurrican carter
I would like to meet you I am from Philly
Crystal Carter you’re grandfather was a true champion and helped many people with his story
Really
Can we meet and btw my teacher allways talks about how good of a person he is
Grande lutador , grande homem
1963-03-30 : Jose Gonzalez 158 lbs beat Rubin Carter 160¼ lbs by TKO in round 6 of 10
Location: Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, USA
Referee: Petey Della
Judge: Joe Armstrong
Judge: Al Berl
Rubin Carter has a very strong 2nd round, but suffers a cut over the right eye in the process.
Rumored Carter suffered from a detached retina in his right eye from this bout with Gonzalez, and fought on despite the eye issues not having the eye problem addressed so as to continue his boxing career. A prison fight shortly after his incarceration in 1967 in which he was hit in the right eye made his right eye worse. Carter claimed a lack of immediate and proper medical care to address the eye in prison caused him permanent blindness in his right eye after an eventual operation which attempted (and failed) to correct his detached retina.[[1]]
Isn't youtube wonderful? This footage was taken atleast 40 years ago and I just got to watch it just by clicking and writing some stuff on a page. This comment had nothing to do with the clip that just came into my mind.
probably in the moment this came up on tv lot of people would die for watch it, but now we have it at just one click
And now someone reads your comment from 9 years ago, and agreed with it
40 años ??? Hace 40 años era campeón Marving Hagler ! .. Sugar Ray Leonard !..Roberto Durán ..Tommy Hearns !! etc...
More like 50-60
70 ys
The hurricane was built !!!
Hurricane 🌀 super shredded 🙌
Thanks so much for putting this video up 👍
God bless your grandfather and your family for all eternity.
much respect ..rip Mr.Carter
such a great fight. I love when two boxers come at each other like that.
To a man who fought against the injustice of a corrupt and failed system, to his last breath. Rest In Peace Rubin "Hurricane" Carter.
AUST MADE it should never have happened but a good job Bob write the history books in a song.
@@ingenuitas uh ohhhh.....!!!!😬
@@ingenuitas the article starts by saying that the hurricane was NEVER a civil right activist, then claims Rubin shot the men, randomly, to avenge for the death of a black bartender by a white man. So he gave up his freedom for a civil rights cause and killed three men, or wasn't involved in civil rights activism? Pick a lane.
Hogwash and you know it! Face the Truth!
Rest In Heaven Champion Mr. Rubin Carter
Here's the story of the hurricane...
@@phoenixbuschannel For somethin' that he never done
@@afshina Put in a prison cell but one time he could have been
@@walter1893 www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/mike-kelly/2019/06/17/rubin-carter-john-artis-what-really-happened-night/1419996001/
@@yusuftopuz1851 the Champion of the WORLLLLLLDDDDD
mg mcd Damn right.
Imagine a fight between Rubin "Hurricane" Carter and Julian "the Hawk" Jackson, both devastating punchers.
Jackson would have killed Carter, just like Carter killed three innocent people when he robbed that bar in New Jersey. Compare Carter’s Boxing record to Jackson’s and you’ll immediately see why Carter wouldn’t have beaten Jackson even if Carter had a Baseball Bat..
@@REBEL368KSW Well said. Jackson would have KOed Carter in 1 round. Carter was a murderer. Carter was guilty beyond all doubt.
@@REBEL368KSW Lol. how contradictory. You say Rubin was harmless even with a baseball bat but definitely murdered three “innocent” people. You just mad.
@@REBEL368KSW And Rubin would’ve killed Muhammad Ali in the ring too. Broke the stinger off the bumblebee and stomped on the butterflies wings.
Jackson would have knocked him the fuck out.
Carter from my hometown of paterson new jersey
@punkrok6 Everyone lost fights they 'should have' won. The problem with this is To 'stretch the truth' right from the start of the movie brings everything else into question. The fact of the matter is Giardello won,even Carter was big enough to admit that.
Very True!
Смелый !Мужественный !Честный человек !!!!! Спасибо ВАМ !!!! РОССИЯ . ПЕРМЬ !!!!
Rubin Carter was ripped
Two brave fighters
jeez ive never really watched old school boxing like this before, they look a breed apart from the fighters today, much stronger and much more resilient than whats on offer these days
only the best fights were recorded
@@johnathons1789 how do they know if it was gonna be a good fight or not to hit record before it started ?
Testosterone levels were double/triple back then
Rubin got smart and moved to Canada.
Mckessa King thug piece of shit glad he’s dead
@@num1sooner cancer will hit your door soon,so i guess you will meet him and he will beat your ass
Canada is the GREATEST COUNTRY.
🇨🇦🇨🇦🥊🥊🇨🇦🇨🇦🥊🥊🇨🇦🇨🇦🥊🥊🇨🇦🇨🇦🥊🥊🇨🇦🇨🇦
Screw America.
Joey Giardello showed up Carter's short comings.
Crystal Carter He had the heart of a Lion!
SOULJAH.
This man wouldve been great but god had other plans for him 😪 bless you unc may your sould rest in peace ❤❤❤
He already WAS GREAT BRO HIS WHOLE LIFE WAS GREAT. There’s nothing bad about Carter’s life, and he is my boxing God.
"Here comes the story of the Hurricane, a man the authorities sent to jail for something that he never done" Bob Dylan
After 1976 Bob Dylan never sang that song again. The recording remains unfortunately according to what Dylan said.
Spit your lies hate somewhere else. We don't need your opinion and we don't care. Rubin "Hurricane" Carter is a hero, one of a kind, and you can't do nothing about it TROLL ^ ^.
This was my first and last reply to you.
May You Rest In Peace or In Piss if you like it better ;-).
He was a twice-convicted killer of three people in a bar, wtf are you talking about ?? The evidence is overwhelming, you must be deluded.
When Dylan started to get the "real" facts around his hero Carter, he realized that he "Fucked Up" big time. He has not sung that song in over 4 decades for good reason......He fucked up!
@@mouhamehawel174
He was guilty.
Stop the bullshit.
"Put in a prison cell, but one time he coulda been the champion of the world"
Great movie, better book.
BAD intentions on those punches at around 1:18. Those looked like some hard shots.
Everytime Gonzalez came in he was grabbin the arm
I guess he knew he couldn’t stand toe to toe with him, so he kept locking up like a punk.🤔
@@evanabbott2737 yup thats probably where mayweather got it from
he was a hard guy😎💪😤😤
Sure did pack quite punch! RIP
Look at their physical condition. Big muscles and low bodyfat isn't a modern invention.
The RUBE" was butted over 30-40 stitches,i believe.
carter was a beast in his day...
I have the utmost respect for Ruben Carter. He was wrongfully convicted. justice isn't always justice. I learned that on my own. I agree he wasn't the best in Boxing but I also think he could have been had he had the proper training. It was a much different time back in the sixties. people were very predjiduce.
The True Boxing Villain and Greatest.
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Rubin was a Jr. Middle
There was not a Jr MW division in those days. It’s a made up division so the governing bodies of criminals can have more champions who have to pay them a few to be champion. It’s all bogus.
Every time the hurricane the movie comes on I watch it I bet I've seen it 50 times
RIP
He's still a beast
Jose. Gonsalez. &. Rubi carter. The. Leyend.
I saw the illustration in the movie. The officers that aimed that trap against Hurricane would have been in the jail untill their the rest of their miserable "lives".
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
They don’t look the same weight
Jose Gonzáles is mexican ????
respect, but they had skinny legs!
Unnecessary weight!
Lol! I hadn't noticed until I read your comment. Cute grasshopper legs.
@@sundayraver LOL u do know that KO power comes from the hip down, not just on your arms & hands, just ask iron mike tyson about it?! 😁
@@kunkkahuskar3979 thats not necessarily true, Alexis Arguello, Deontay Wilder, Thomas Hearns, Terence Crawford are huge punchers who have skinny legs, that was just off the top of my head. Besides the quality of film, and the shorts they wore makes their legs look skinnier and less defined than if you see higher quality still images of them
Dylan don't tip into the needie. People that who are starving and thier kids are too
If the guys would stop trying to kiss Rubin, it would be a great fight
guy*
I had to say that because he looked a lot like Hagler though Hagler was a better fighter
Hell no. Hagler was not a greater fighter than the HURRICANE. HURRICANE WAS RAW.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Carter is faster, hit harder too, better boxer. Hagler is mentally stronger and didn't get unconfident if his opponent was getting hurt by his power, Carter gave up whenever his opponent wasnt fazed by his punch. He always started off dominant but would fade after his opponent wasnt getting hurt he wasnt very confident about winning if his opponent was fazed by his power.
Hagler was a puncher with IQ he wasnt a smooth boxer puncher with great hand speed like Carter.
@@LightninLewis that was hard to understand.
Marvin Hagler stole Carter's line: "my muscles have got muscles". Both these guys were heavy into steroids durng their boxing careers and it really showed in their physiques.
No steroids available in Carter’s era
Your an idiit. I boxed with Marvin in the old petronelli gym at 52 center street in Brockton in 76. He always had that build. And he had no money for steroids, just a million dollar heart snd chin...fool!
Donald Oneill If you’re going to call someone an idiot, at least make sure you can spell it. LOL.
Shit Ruben Carter was chiseled full of muscle
They both are
How do you possibly know they were into steroids?
Yes says my father from the era. And no drug testing back then
R.I.P HURRICANE, Inspirational man.
Hurricane Carter. The Greatest.
In the last two years before he killed three innocent people and went to prison, Carter’s record was 3 wins, 3 losses, and one draw, so it’s hardly like he was ANY kind of “Contender” for ANYTHING other than the job of Tier Runner. Giardello had beaten the brakes off Carter more than 3 years prior, and Carter was never the same afterwards. His winning percentage AFTER Giardello was something like .375 or at most .415, he literally had a LOSING RECORD even before he murdered three totally innocent people in that bar..
Carter was guilty of his crimes.
justice system is a fuggin lie.
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
@SNOOOOOO8 u wouldnt show up
@SNOOOOOO8 lol
I guess they didn’t know how to jab back then lol I didn’t see straight or cross and foot work forget it 🤦🏾♂️ get body shots though
You clearly don't know their styles do you?
That isn’t style in my opinion boxing has grown since if you haven’t noticed. Train for month and come comment you’ll understand much better I get its easy to say that but cmon Mike Tyson didn’t have a great style but the power and ability to get on the inside, worked for him. These guys lead with their head and are very flat footed. Clearly your just a viewer and have no idea what your seeing.
@@joearispe337 Mike Tyson style isn't great what? Mike Tyson used the peek a boo style which allowed him to slip under punchers and used angles to pivot into position to counter. Mike Tyson relied on counter punching.
Hurricane Carter actually used jabs and had a side ways stance which made him a smaller target which also fought in a crounch which made him a smaller target. I actually work out as a boxer buddy so don't be ignorant buddy. Go and watch his fights in full.
antonio mosley keep studying buddy your sounding knowledgeable. I think you think I’m taking a shot at the Hurricane I’m not. Have a good one.
@@joearispe337 You don't know boxing where has boxing "grown"? most modern boxers can't even fight on the inside or even slip punches. You also said Mike Tyson style wasn't great... I actually know quite a bit about boxing so I can assure you your opinion is completely wrong. Hurricane Carter wasn't flat foot and actually variety up his punches. So instead of basing your opinion off a snippet of one of fights actually study him and his opponents.
I grew up believing him innocent but now if u look into all the evidence and what Artis his best friend and fellow murderer said you need to really look into it properly.
www.nj.com/opinion/2014/04/spare_us_the_lies_about_the_late_hurricane_carter_mulshine.html
Somebody copied this link in the comments below and it doesn’t look good for the hurricane....😬
Do you know how dumb y’all sound of course the if you look into the evidence he’s going to look guilty.The System set him up.
@@tlh515 i am surprised you being so clever you don't have 2 heads after all his accomplice confirmed they did it and gave details
@@Joiedevivredesilives I bet he got a shorter sentence too or they told him what to say.This is not the first time this happened. Central Park 5 Another example and is on Netflix called Now when they see us. (True story)Can’t believe the cops especially back then because they were Super Racist/crooked thank god people can change.
@@tlh515 he only said that years after they were freed
Read a book write a hero.save a life ..police REFORM NOW
Boxing is appearantly the only sport where its performers get worse by each generation.
are you calling guys like lomachenko and floyd mayweather worse than these guys
if you are then I have no idea what you are watching
"Irooooon Mike Tysooooooon..Tyson" was Amazing! There were many greats between Carter & Tyson.
The middleweight division was incredibly deep in the early 1960s. The top 20 were all dangerous/difficult fighters to face.
@@vmbrazilianjj Those are the exception
there were No steroids in Carters era
Wrong. Steroids were everywhere and easier because no drug tests yet. Like my man said they were created in the 1930s
@@too_sturdy They didn't take them in those times. Steroids were actually being tested in those times and boxers took steroids around the 80s.
@@antoniomosley9410
the nazis created alot of the drugs we use today. They created methadone, adderall just name a few. I googled this. I assumed you didn't otherwise you would've known your history. 🤙
@@antoniomosley9410
If they were in invented in the 30s. People were using them as Guinea pigs and the black market. They used methadone, adderall in WW2 cause Hitler's minions made the shit Hitler was a junky himself. Would have his nurse shoot him up multiple times a day. History is good
@@too_sturdy Those drugs were found in the Olympics which if you actually knew your sport history. The PEDs were highly used by the weight lifting Russians in the Olympics and slowly trinkled down to sports like basball,football and so on. The very last sport to actually get PEDs was boxing which boxers started using PEDs in the 80s. Hurricane Carter by simply looking at him shows he didn't have any form of PEDs in his system. Boxers were extremely poor and couldn't afford any form of PEDs. Again like I stated they tested for PEDs in those times and most if not all boxers pre 80s used none. Do you know anything about previous boxing eras on how they train and diet?
He seemed like the average boxer. Nothing too special.
Completely immoral. The guys a hero, to be condemned for the color of his skin is a joke! Just started looking into the case about the triple murder, already noticing some inconsistencies with the case. Could never imagine the injustice the guy felt. RIP Rubin
He was guilty.
Stop the bullshit.
@@TheBatugan77 It’s people like you who I’d knock tf out.
@@TheBatugan77 BS
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.@@TheBatugan77
I watched the movie and it was never mentioned the motive for the murders. It just looked like they went in there, shot the 3 people and left. What the hell was the motive? The movie showed a guy go in after the murders and took the loot out of the register.
Respect to both men but doesn’t anyone else agree that they look steroided up ?
They didn't use steroides in that era.
@@antoniomosley9410 lmao steroids have been around for ages bud
@@dbzwwe56 Steroides were a thing in 80s for boxing. Back then they didn't use steroids actually know about these boxers before saying idiotic things.
@@antoniomosley9410 mate steroids were invented in the 30s. And were used in all sports from Olympics to boxing. I think you’re the misinformed one here.
@@dbzwwe56 The used steroids in the Olympics but never in boxing doing those times.
Ever talked to actual boxing historian who knew these fighters in person? Have you actually studied these boxers?
Your simple mind is confused. Boxers back then didn't need steroids or PEDs compared to modern fighters. Steroids wasn't even a thing in boxing until the 80s. So if you have some evidence of guys like Carter, Griffith, Robinson, even someone like Basilio using steroids then please be silent.
Да в вашем государстве всех виликих боксеров если не убивали то сажали в тюрьму.рубен картер,мухамед али,майк тайсон...позор!!!
А скольких засудили и фактически обокрали,ни одна сотня наберётся боксёров...
What a boring fight.
Carter was lucky he wasn't a prime middleweight in the 1980s because he would of been destroyed by marvelous Marvin Hagler
Littlebit English true, but there are maybe a handful of MWs in history Hagler wouldn't have destroyed in his prime. Monzon, Greb, Ketchel, Robinson and some of the tough men from the 50's maybe.
Littlebit English yah too bad leonard fucked him up. sugar ray was too fast for hagler trying to push Leonard back doesnt work cause leonard has great footwork. leonard hit hagler so many times that hagler started hitting himself. what does hagler and duran have in common ? they both quit when facing the great sugar ray
You could say that about a lot of great middleweights. The only guys I see holding their own against Hagler would be Robinson and Greb. Hagler would have hit Monzon from every angle.
@@robertfitzhugh4784 Nope Monzon was too dominant and inteligent for Hagler
@@kevinaraujo758 that's not true and you wouldn't say that if you knew the history of hacker, he always had to do extra to get what others got. They didn't like him and always erected obstacles in his way.hagler left boxing because he was heart broken and cheated.
he was innocent, watch the movie,
Oh yes! Hollywood is an impeccable source of truth and righteousness.
He wasnt innocent. Movies dont decide guilt or innocence. Trials and juries do.The evidence in the two trials proved Carter and Artis "did it"
@@BlankUberEverybody But those two trials were overturned . . . He was released on habeas corpus . . .
BlankUberEverybody You are a gullible chump.
He was played by *_Denzel Washington._* to hell with hollywood. HE WAS PLAYED BY *_DENZEL WASHINGTON._*
He def would have been champ
Lol no he wouldn’t have been
He was guilty.
Stop the bullshit.
CARTER TOTALLY OVERRATED, a good puncher and nothing more. Thanks for the myth, Bob Dylan...and Hollywood.
Sonofabitch
You’re an ignorant piece of shit. I’d like to knock some sense into you.