THE HERD | Colin Cowherd SHOCKED, Bo Nix Is The MOST Accurate QB, BEST Situation With Denver Broncos
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- THE HERD | Colin Cowherd SHOCKED, Bo Nix Is The MOST Accurate QB, BEST Situation With Denver Broncos
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It’s going to be fun to watch how all these quarterbacks develop and work out for their teams. As a Bronco fan it’s really cool that we are a part of all of this. I have a sneaky feeling Nix is going to do very well.
Yeah I'm excited as well. I think the NFL is in great shape with all these QBs now.
Let’s go! I’m excited let’s go Broncos country
Yeah I think he can hit the ground running honestly.
I think Bo Nix was the perfect pick for us.
I think so too!
Bo is a spitting image of drew breeze but a little bigger built. He is a gamer and a life long student of football, specifically the quarterback position. This guy prepares, film study and preps like None other! Eat, sleep, football, pray is Bo Nix. Great leadership qualities, and a chip on his shoulder like no other. As an Oregon fan I’m extremely excited to see what he does with Sean Payton and the broncos. And a cherry on top is landing Troy Franklin in the 4th round… just crazy to me. I’m officially blue and orange on Sundays! 🦆🐴
You and me both. Ducks, now Broncos. (And Chargers)
Dux fan here. Bo has a much bigger arm than Drew Brees. He consistently drove the ball into tight windows. He hit Troy Franklin over and over on long routes. Most importantly, his decision making pre and post snap is solid already. He only had one online course his senior year; he literally attended offensive coaches meetings. He *is* humble and he is a really good leader who guys would run through fire for. He will be fantastic in the community. But most importantly, Bo and Payton are a match made in heaven.
Yeah I think Bo Nix is absolutely set up to succeed in Denver!
Bo Nix has just as much of a chance to be good as any of these QB’s that got drafted. Sean Payton is a good head coach and offensive mind.
Broncos need to add a top tier WR to help him
@@jason5265they did Troy Franklin
I totally agree.
Honestly, if BO went to anyone but the Broncos, the pick would be a over reaching pick. The fact that he went to a Coach that fits what he does, makes it a good pick. Out of all the QB selected I like what DEN and MN did, The falcons maybe is the worst.
I agree!
Sean Payton knows quarterbacks.
Mmhmm
Denver has never drafted a elite QB in its history. I have a feeling Nix will be the first! He is a good kid and his his life together on top of his talent on the field. Also Mark is by far the smartest and most likable guy out there! He was always nice to my folks when they lived in his neighborhood.
John Albert Elway Jr.
Drafted by the Colts. Broncos traded for him.@@5891jonathan
@@5891jonathan nice try, they didn’t draft him. They didn’t draft Manning either.
That's awesome! He's definitely an every guy's guy. He's also extremely passionate.
I like Bo's situation a lot, i think weapon wise, JJ and the Vikings might be slightly better? Enjoying the breakdowns! Keep up the good work!
Uhhh Caleb Williams? Lol
Bears have 3 WR’s that would be WR1 on Denver. But Franklin was a steal and Sutton is pretty legit. I think Nix will be solid.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
I think Bo will be the next up coming Patrick..He is a smart young man that can ball
Do you think they make the playoffs this season?
Yup
Lord I hope so
I take back everything I said about Sean. I was harsh on him when they let Simmons go and decided to pay Russ to play somewhere else. But it’s a good deal all around. Happy we got a young qb who can get rid of the ball.
Yeah I think the future is bright for Denver.
Welcome to Denver, Mr nix
Instant success?
A big arm does laser in a ball much cleaner and without getting picked. It can matter. “Making moves” still has to prove as good moves in the playoffs.
But his arm is good. The narrative about his arm is false. Just watch the tape.
His arm is good. Just a bunch of talking heads
55mph- Herbert
58mph- Nix
60mph- Mahomes
Those numbers are crazy!
To not have the ability to air out the ball 60-70 yards is a handicap that defenses can take advantage of. However, Nix can throw the ball plenty deep, if that's not enough just draft Joe Milton who can stand at the thirty and throw it through the uprights and who can't hit a bull in the ass @ 50 feet. Nix is a system rhythm and timing qb whos arm is as strong as Brees, Montana, Brady, Staubach, Tarkenton etc.etc. who were pretty f'n successful. The lazy, plastic, jejune sports parrots just read the script, most of them don't know shit from shine-ola. Lets let the man play a few games and patiently form an evaluation. Thanks brother, appreciated.
Totally agree! I really think Bo can settle in nicely. Of course like any rookie he will have his issues. But I think the confidence he will just fail is completely unfounded.
The threat of throwing it 70 yards is where the value is. It stretches the defense. Forces them to respect the threat. Opens up the short and intermediate. And forces defenses to never be able to stack the box against the run. Because if the play is play action, and defense tries to cheat, or gets complacent, boom 70 yard TD.
I hear what you're saying, but really what keeps a defense honest is not so much a 70 yard bomb, but more establishing a run game, established tight ends, and a deep threat WR. But it certainly doesn't need to be a home run shot.
Oregon ran a lot of pro concepts in their offense. Watch chase Daniel’s break down Nix against USC and he points this out. Nix is a good QB. He set protections, read the field well, went through progressions and knew where to go with the ball and put the ball in the right spot waaay more often than not. Take away all the short throws and he still led the NCAA in metrics that count.
thank you for the rec! I appreciate it!
We live in Denver and listen to 104.3 the fan here in Denver, Mark Schlereth is on here in the mornings with Mike Evans, not the buccaneers player lol Schlereth knows his sh**!
Haha oh yeah. He’s a really smart ex player for sure!
Stink is great. He knows his stuff and is very enjoyable to listen to on the fan. Really funny too
As A Broncos Faithful who happens to lives in chiefs Kingdumb' Just want a QB that can beat KC once or twice a year. Subscribed.
Haha well I think it can happen now! And thank you for the sub!
The quarter back really didn’t make the difference for the rams goff was just as good. It was really Von who was the real game changer. Aaron’s Donald’s stats literally doubled and the defensive pressure to. Von aloud others to eat easier
That helped. But Stafford definitely helped without a doubt.
Bo and jj will be the best qbs in the class because of there head coaches denver was in this situation before with cutler who was the so called 3 best in his class and you can say by far he was the best in that class why cause he had Shanahan as a head coach
Better than Caleb?
Absolutely
It WASN'T Sean Payton who traded for Russell Wilson a few years ago. They didn't match together from the beginning. Sean Payton didn't really like Russell Wilson. Bo Nix got a great chance to be successful with Sean Payton. They hit the JACKPOT together.
I’m excited to see the future!
I think Denver is going to surpass most expectations this season and that's largely going to be the result of Sean Payton getting a QB that can fully execute his system. I also agree that Bo was the best QB hands down for Payton in this draft. Would they have grabbed Caleb at #1? Most likely the ownership would have made that call and grabbed Caleb. I think Bo will have a great rookie contract under Payton and Denver fans are going to be fairly happy for the next few years.
I think Denver can be legit trouble for teams. How quickly this comes together, I really don't know. But I'm not betting against Sean to struggle for much longer.
I liked your comment about HCs learn and grow with experience. I'm from KC and oddly many of my friends are frim Philly. All I ever heard from them pre-2020 was "I'm sorry, but Andy can get you winning seasons and playoffs, but he'll never win a Superbowl." Like qbs, coaches also have a certain upside, but most franchises will never see the maximum upside potential because they are not patient enough. San Diego laid the same rap on Marty Shottenheimer, but 14-2 wasn't good enough for them, so he was given the boot. How did that go for them? Maybe they should be called the San Diego Browns.
Exactly! It is weird that people don't realize that coaches also learn and grow as time goes on. That they also have to lose, fail, and make lots of mistakes before they can become great, just like players.
Hockey analyst Dteve Dangle says that all draft picks are magic beans. You never know what you're going to get until they grow. I do though like the kid.
Haha I like that. Highly accurate!
More bout arm strength with velocity in the NFL not throwing 70 yards. Ol Bo ain't going to be throwing to wide open receivers dude
So you don't think he will succeed?
He beats out williams in every category in 20+ yarders and watched him throw a td of 65 air yards at pro day. But okay. Btw, herbert threw 61 air yard at his
So you think he will be better than caleb?
Denver & Minnesota had to pull the trigger where they did or not get Nix or McCarthy especially after Penix went 8. Do I wish they could of traded back and got Nix somewhere between 22-36, of course, but it wasn't happening. These guys talking trash on their pathetic click bait pods dont know shit, they just parrot the "hot take". Thanks appreciated.
Yeah also, if you want Bo Nix, there's no reason to play games and gamble in hopes of getting him at 22-36. Just get him when you can and worry about the rest as it comes.
Nix DID only run a pro style offense (sort of) for one year in college. Nix DID struggle in that offense & Nix WAS benched. Nix DID transfer to Oregon to remove himself from it & get back to his former OC. However...the argument is NOT that Nix won't be any good in the NFL or that Sean Payton can't coach him up. We know that nobody is better with QBs than he is. But if you are referring to the argument I have been making multiples times on these UA-cam channels, then that is a false interpretation of what I have said. Running a "pro style" offense is not just about timing, it's about the ability to make up to 5 or 6 different reads of an NFL defense so rapidly that the QB knows not only where to go with the ball, but where not to. NOTHING that Nix got in the Gus Malzahn/Kenny Dillingham offense he played in at Auburn & Oregon prepares him to do that. Don't take my word for that. Take the word of NFL QB trainer Jordan Palmer, who has personally trained Joe Burrows, Josh Allen...and also Jarrett Stidham. He's the one who said that Stidham got virtually nothing of value in the college system he was in for the NFL...the same system Nix was in.
NOW...that said...I DO believe that Sean Payton wanted Nix, which means I believe that he ca play in the NFL. The issue is not whether he can play...but WHEN he can play. Just as I take Payton at his word that he wanted Nix, I ALSO take him at his word that he WANTED Jarrett Stidham, who he also signed immediately as the very first thing he did when he got to Denver. Stidham played in exactly the same offense in college that Nix did...& if you compare them both when they were playing against NFL caliber talent in the SEC...Stidham was better. People are vastly under rating his talent but also the value that Stidham has gotten by siting for 4 years with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Josh McDaniels & of course...Sean Payton. That development time is an ENORMOUS advantage. Payton said on two occasions that not only does he think Stidham can be a starter, he also went further & described him as having a high football IQ, being very intelligent, having a fast mental processor & throwing a very catchable ball. Those are the very qualities he saw in Drew Brees, which is why Payton signed him when nobody in the NFL even wanted to offer him a contract. Those are also the qualities he's expressed admiring in Nix. You can't trumpet that with one guy & ignore it with the other.
Nix could possibly start in 2024, but don't bet on that. It's more likely that Payton will go with a vet who has already not only been in his system for a year, but one who does the same kind of things Nix does but has the benefit of being in the best QB development rooms in the league for almost as long as Nix has been in college when he was making one & two reads in a system that does nor prepare quarterbacks for the NFL. The debate here is not simply whether Nix can be good in the NFL, it's whether he can be better than Stidham...or at least better than him in 2024. There is an automatic assumption that Jarrett is just a backup since he hasn't started yet. We have seen what can happen when a guy with talent is allowed to sit & learn. We've also seen what can happen when a guy with talent is thrust into the mix before he's ready.
Which course of action would a smart coach like Payton be most likely to take?
Haha I think you may have been the comment I referred to in this video! I don't think your points are inherently wrong, or not worth considering. I just think evaluation college QBs and how they will play in the NFL is brutally difficult and not as simple as people want to believe.
Payton came in gun blazing talking about this trash about the prior coach and the totally crapped the bed. The way he treats players and coaches is downright disrespectful. And there is no reason to think he is as special as others think. He had a HOF, top ten QB in NFL history and Gregg Williams running the defense. Without Brees, he has never done a thing. Even when given a relatively young HOF SB winning QB, it was a trainwreck. If he succeeds with Bo, then it’s fair to say he is an all time great. If he fails, he is slightly above average. Brees and his success have more to do with him being the son of a legendary coach.
I do agree I didn't like how he came in last season. But I think he learned from his mistakes. He is definitely an old school style coach.
Saying Bo has no arm is like saying the democrats are doing great with the country 😂
😂 this a politics free zone!
@@JWLSportsnothing is these days.
This is a pure fan take.
Maybe, But I don't see it that way
@@JWLSports Commentary focus on the most probable outcome, not the rosiest possible scenario.
They should Celab Williams is going to be a bust. No, not good, I told them not to get Russell. No one listened.
So Bo is going to be a bust but JJ and penix are not? I do not understand all were supposed to go in the 2nd round but went in the first.
Mark is wrong. Deep ball is important even if you do not use it. Creating that treat pulls dbs and LBs off the line, giving the offense more space to work.
It's good to have a deep ball, but it's not everything you can do fine without it if you do everything else well. Bo arm isn't that strong, but it is strong enough to create that threat.
So which QB do you think won't be a bust?
Nix will 1000% be able to run Seans system and scheme. To who ever said he wont be able to do that is just lost. hahaha
Marc is also wrong about the timing of the hitch with the deep ball and Fanigo runs more QQH and quarters than anyone else in the NFL so those were two off comments but that is neither here nor there
Never in a million years would I have guessed that Bo Nix would have been the most controversial pick in the draft.
I disagree with you
About?
Career backup qb by year 3
😂
Anyone talking isht about nix are click baiting, they know the guy is brand, and at the broncos Wilson set the bar so low that winning more than 5 games will be a telemetric achievement.
You know the Broncos won 8 games last year?
Do you think they can make the playoffs?
@@JWLSports
i wouldn't worry about the chiefs much, they have their 3 SB's and their players are aging out.
if we play that scenario who should we be afraid of?
the raiders or the chargers?
that's what commentators like you should be focus in on?
are the raiders or or chargers stronger this year?
the chiefs have their gold, i don't think they are going to be much of a danger this season, they have their taylor swift so they are going to relax, i think we have the wild card slot this season so we can make the play off's straight away at the 1# seed.
we have to see the first games to see what we are playing with cuz we are pretty much going in with a brand new roaster so who knows?
It's a reach
I don’t think so.
@JWLSports I've watched for years. I hope I'm wrong, but probably not.
3 teams behind them were going to take him
@@Embo_Marrok the beauty of this discussion is we will see if they were right. I don't think anyone in that building has a strong track record of drafting qb. As of now, I don't trust the pick.
Denver New England the Pats thanks to Brady the Ravens and KC are the 4 best teams of the last 25 years...
Eagles are up there as well they have the second most playoff wins in the last 25 years or so.