29:35 "How do I not die to the Annex". I think you were supposed to go for the throat the floodpits drowner and Tear Asunder your own Annex. Odds are that doesn't let you win, but I was expecting that play. Maybe that's wrong though. I'm more of a limited player.
As if there is really a difference between a bronze and mythic rank players 😂 same decks, same mistakes, it’s nothing but a sticker to make you feel better
@@jadynstargel2828I think that’s where there is quite the difference. I tend to grind to mythic each season and notice a pretty drastic change in Diamond/Mythic.
At 28:00 on 5 life with only an untapped forest you’re dead on board to the opponents restless reef and flood pits drowner. instead of swinging for lethal he attacked your Liliana.
It's kind of funny seeing the massive hype for Llanowar Elves coming back to standard, and I immediately realized I don't want them in my lists for a couple of reasons, and I'm now seeing some top players testing them and immediately cutting them or often sideboarding them out lol. I guess the opportunity cost is too high for a card you really only want turn one?
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I have and it works out so much better. Yeah the loss of 2 life from their creature dying is nice but the possibility of losing from your own creature forcing you to waste a spot removal makes it fall short. It also adds strategic value cuz DD can remove creatures on its own, and it causes opponents to really think about what they want to do for maintaining their board state. Then there’s possibly it going from a 6/6 to a potential 8/8, or even 9/9 which has happened with me a couple of times. It just has so many upsides that Archie is now useless in the current meta. You can still make it work in the late game, but DD adds a ton of value in both the early game and late game
@@adaiahclark5250 I disagree that it's such a straightforward upgrade. I like DD in matchups where you really want to block like red or dimir since you will kill a creature either way and you won't die to your own demon while holding back (tho archfiend turns the corner much faster once you start attacking). But I think it's alot worse into matchups where you want to aggressively push damage or the opponent is making tokens. It's alot worse into caretakers talent decks and in the golgari mirrors they can just sac dreadknights to draw extra cards and keep your demon tapped. I think there's a good argument for both and could see people choosing based on their expected meta.
Heres my decklist. I been playing in standard. 3 chart a course , 3 impulse, 3 artists talent, 1 lively dirge, 1 bitter reunion, 4 highway robbery, 2 pyroclasm, 1 lightning helix, 4 seize the spoils, 2 plan the heist, 2 invasion of arcavious, 3 invasion of tolvada, 3 campus renovation, 1 thousand year storm, 1 atraxa, 4 omniscience 22 lands. sb archdruids charm, helix, stoke the flames, plan the heist. This deck can win as early as turn 4. Draw my whole deck them play thousand year storm and helix for lethal triggers. Very cool havent seen anyone else play it. You cheat in omni and then just win. However, in best of 1 it seems better. As in bo3 they have tons of gy hate it seems.
I didn't realize that Archfiend of the Dross' ability would trigger when it and a creature the opponent controls both die at the same time. Magic is so complex!
I truly hate Dross in this kind of Goldgagi Mid pile. I love these little decks, I truly find them fun, but if you are running that level of ramp you can afford to play heavvy 5-7 finishers. You Can Thread in an Aclazotz or more appropriately in my opinion a planeswalker threat in Nissa Ascended. If you are worried about annex death in these decks, I think many people forget , BRAIDS is in this format.
Desecration Demon seems like something to try in that slot. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it at least doesn't kill you in 3 turns, and still provides a good curve out threat after Unholy Annex is deployed.
Very nice high level bronze league games. It would be more efficient if you actually played against bots so you dont have to wait and complete your weekly game quote for the channel
You don’t think it woulda been more efficient for you to just not waste a couple minutes of your life writing out this nonsense? Had to get in your weekly quota of hate tho ya?
@@knife1406i mean he’s not wrong though. First opponent ran his Kaito straight up unto Glissa and failed to counter the food activation for lethal. I mean it’s good to hear Reid reason his way through the decisions he makes, but some higher level play would be nice. LSV had the same where he was bashing bronzies for content.
@@BearPondersGames No they have not. People jammed it into the deck after the Demon Deck won worlds. Oh and Mosswood Dreadknight is bad too, tough truth
my deck would be: overgrown battlement axebane guardian wall of roots awakening zone sandwurm convergence call to the grave helldozer steelbane hydra. casualties of war. 24 lands and 4 of these would be westvale abbey. the deck can generate alot of tokens which works well with call to the grave. and also alot of mana which works well with helldozer, steelbane hydra, and westvale abbey.
Imagine being a bronze player and suddenly you’re playing the GOAT
29:35 "How do I not die to the Annex". I think you were supposed to go for the throat the floodpits drowner and Tear Asunder your own Annex. Odds are that doesn't let you win, but I was expecting that play. Maybe that's wrong though. I'm more of a limited player.
My thoughts exactly. Wouldve bought at least a turn
Nice to see standard content with it being standard RCQ season. Hope we get more of this format.
Good news, it actually is standard RCQ season!
maybe a traditional standard event would be better? bronze gameplay isn't the most compelling.
I would really like to see some event videos from someone.
He lost a game
As if there is really a difference between a bronze and mythic rank players 😂 same decks, same mistakes, it’s nothing but a sticker to make you feel better
I was here for the SB logic, hearing what's the plan for in/outs. And why. Apparently that data is bad in bronze?
@@jadynstargel2828I think that’s where there is quite the difference. I tend to grind to mythic each season and notice a pretty drastic change in Diamond/Mythic.
Love how every deck in bronze is just net deck tier 1 stock lists
I'm leaning golgari as well. I really liked the golgari ramp lists from worlds.
You will put out content for this channel AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!
At 28:00 on 5 life with only an untapped forest you’re dead on board to the opponents restless reef and flood pits drowner. instead of swinging for lethal he attacked your Liliana.
Ghost vacuum is beautiful against azourous oculus
thanks for the content duke! love golgari
01:32 No the ladder! 😢 PLS play events when you're < Diamond 😊
diamond or high mythic otherwise it doesnt count either lol :D
What about Spinner of Souls
It's kind of funny seeing the massive hype for Llanowar Elves coming back to standard, and I immediately realized I don't want them in my lists for a couple of reasons, and I'm now seeing some top players testing them and immediately cutting them or often sideboarding them out lol. I guess the opportunity cost is too high for a card you really only want turn one?
Please more Explorer or Pioneer content!
im an idiot... where do i copy the deck?
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have anyone tried desecration demon in place of archfiend?
I have and it works out so much better. Yeah the loss of 2 life from their creature dying is nice but the possibility of losing from your own creature forcing you to waste a spot removal makes it fall short. It also adds strategic value cuz DD can remove creatures on its own, and it causes opponents to really think about what they want to do for maintaining their board state. Then there’s possibly it going from a 6/6 to a potential 8/8, or even 9/9 which has happened with me a couple of times. It just has so many upsides that Archie is now useless in the current meta. You can still make it work in the late game, but DD adds a ton of value in both the early game and late game
@@adaiahclark5250 I disagree that it's such a straightforward upgrade. I like DD in matchups where you really want to block like red or dimir since you will kill a creature either way and you won't die to your own demon while holding back (tho archfiend turns the corner much faster once you start attacking). But I think it's alot worse into matchups where you want to aggressively push damage or the opponent is making tokens. It's alot worse into caretakers talent decks and in the golgari mirrors they can just sac dreadknights to draw extra cards and keep your demon tapped. I think there's a good argument for both and could see people choosing based on their expected meta.
GETS*!
Nah don't play Llanowar in this deck.
Vivien tough? Now that's an upgrade,
Heres my decklist. I been playing in standard. 3 chart a course , 3 impulse, 3 artists talent, 1 lively dirge, 1 bitter reunion, 4 highway robbery, 2 pyroclasm, 1 lightning helix, 4 seize the spoils, 2 plan the heist, 2 invasion of arcavious, 3 invasion of tolvada, 3 campus renovation, 1 thousand year storm, 1 atraxa, 4 omniscience 22 lands. sb archdruids charm, helix, stoke the flames, plan the heist. This deck can win as early as turn 4. Draw my whole deck them play thousand year storm and helix for lethal triggers. Very cool havent seen anyone else play it. You cheat in omni and then just win. However, in best of 1 it seems better. As in bo3 they have tons of gy hate it seems.
I didn't realize that Archfiend of the Dross' ability would trigger when it and a creature the opponent controls both die at the same time. Magic is so complex!
Leyline of Resonance is banned (edit: fake news, only in bo1)
Not in Bo3
@@frommetoyou5450Oops, my bad. Ty for letting me know.
Vivien ReidDuke is a awesome reprint card.
of course the master of Jund stands behind Golgari aswell 💪💪
needs more removal
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Sorry for the unsolicited copy editing but it’s “Gets” not “get’s”
cant you play off stream to get at least diamond? every game every deck has no meaning when you play against bronze bots
Play an aclazotz main. You won't regret it.
Not sure why we're supposed to take advice from this bronze leaguer
I truly hate Dross in this kind of Goldgagi Mid pile. I love these little decks, I truly find them fun, but if you are running that level of ramp you can afford to play heavvy 5-7 finishers. You Can Thread in an Aclazotz or more appropriately in my opinion a planeswalker threat in Nissa Ascended. If you are worried about annex death in these decks, I think many people forget , BRAIDS is in this format.
Desecration Demon seems like something to try in that slot. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it at least doesn't kill you in 3 turns, and still provides a good curve out threat after Unholy Annex is deployed.
Pretty much every successful list runs 4 Dross.
Very nice high level bronze league games. It would be more efficient if you actually played against bots so you dont have to wait and complete your weekly game quote for the channel
damn bro, some of us just like seeing reid every now and then
You don’t think it woulda been more efficient for you to just not waste a couple minutes of your life writing out this nonsense? Had to get in your weekly quota of hate tho ya?
@@knife1406i mean he’s not wrong though. First opponent ran his Kaito straight up unto Glissa and failed to counter the food activation for lethal. I mean it’s good to hear Reid reason his way through the decisions he makes, but some higher level play would be nice. LSV had the same where he was bashing bronzies for content.
I thought leyline was banned
Only on BO1. Not BO3
@tasteoftacos thanks man for clarifying it for me:)
Llanowar Elves isn't an upgrade for Golgari midrange...
Bronze lol Literally doesn't matter.
I think people need to realize that Archfiend is not strong enough to play in fair midrange piles. Its a Demon Tribal payoff.
It is a pretty menacing threat though, with what would you replace it?
@@Breadcutter Sheoldred.
@ Don’t know if losing the opportunity to die to your own Archfiend is worth the Annex Damage
People have been playing it to great success in this deck all season.
@@BearPondersGames No they have not. People jammed it into the deck after the Demon Deck won worlds. Oh and Mosswood Dreadknight is bad too, tough truth
Please learn how to post a decklist.....
my deck would be:
overgrown battlement
axebane guardian
wall of roots
awakening zone
sandwurm convergence
call to the grave
helldozer
steelbane hydra.
casualties of war.
24 lands and 4 of these would be westvale abbey.
the deck can generate alot of tokens which works well with call to the grave. and also alot of mana which works well with helldozer, steelbane hydra, and westvale abbey.
my deck would be 20 mountains and 40 lightning bolts