BASICS - Ma Bu Standing Key Points
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2020
- In this tutorial Kerem and Stev talk about the basic key points in Ma Bu Standing. After learning how to hold your body efficient in our Basic Qi Gong posture it gets now important to learn how to transfer these principles into more demanding postures like the Ma Bu Stance.
This video is the first of our Xuan Wu Basic series, in which you learn step by step through the Xuan Wu Basics the most important "external" fundamentals of our system, starting here with the Ma Bu Stance.
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Excellent instruction and demonstration.
When I first trained in this stance it was agony, as we had to hold it for about 15 minutes initially (later building up to 20 and 30 minutes) and combine with punching techniques. As the months and years rolled by, it became more natural and easier to relax into the stance once the legs were conditioned and the hips were more open. It was also about mental focus and breathing control. Every class would have horse stance practice, some for longer time than others. The teacher would check everyone and make slight adjustments, getting us to focus on breathing. He would lay a long wooden staff (bo) across our thighs, it was not supposed to roll off onto the floor! He would push us from the back and the front to test stability, the feet had to grip the floor (with bare feet or footwear). Shoulders had to be relaxed, head and neck too.
This was all a long time ago, back in the 80s and 90s when I trained regularly in Kung Fu. There was also a great routine for working some of the basic stances. It was called 20 steps, which employed the front bow stance (extended), horse stance, crossing-horse or twist stance (unicorn stance) and cat stance; with all the transitions going between the different stances and working the 4 main directions. There was a leg only form and also a combined leg and hand form. After several rounds of 20 steps form, it would leave your legs feeling like they were on fire! It was taught in the traditional style, based on Lau Gar Kung Fu, in classes run by Sifu Stan Brown in London. It didn't come from the Lau Gar syllabus, it was something he introduced to develop better mobility and leg strength for speed and power when stepping.
It would be great if you guys know these sets and could show it here on your channel. Unfortunately, I no longer remember or practise the sets and I haven't been able to find videos or books on the 24 step routine.
Hola amigo , me alegra escuchar que han habido practicantes que han sufrido el kung fu verdadero . A mi también me ponían en esa posición y llegué hasta 1 hora y no es un trabajo físico solamente . El trabajo físico solo es el principio , te forma el carácter. Es un trabajo muy diferente a levantar pesas o cualquier otro ejercicio . Yo aprendí sil lum kung fu ( estilo dragón) . También hacíamos un trabajo de piernas que se llamaba " danza de piernas " donde se trabajaba todas las posiciones básicas y luego se hacía con un compañero encima . El entrenamiento era durisimo y en 3 años eras una máquina. Pero en realidad el entrenamiento era muy serio . Las técnicas eran simples pero eficaces . Solo teníamos 2 formas ( danzas ) li wan kun y li chom nio ( con sus respectivas interpretaciones) , bastantes técnicas de defensa personal y patadas básicas , patada abanico , descendente , con giro etc pero el énfasis era la fortaleza física, mental y espiritual del practicante . Nada de piruetas ni movimientos innecesarios ...muy lindo estilo de kung fu . Lastima que ya no se encuentra eso en ningún barrio chino ni mucho menos en Internet. Saludos y gracias por hacerme recordar viejos tiempos .
She is very strong in Ma Bu.
You guys are amazing! Thank you for sharing, truly.
Very good...looking foward for the continuation.
So interesting and helpful... I love the subtle distinction between stance (which is static) and "step-in" (which is fluid).
Great video with clear instructions and details! I have praticed Ma Bu several years and from what I see here now, btw excellently performed by Kerem I made a few mistakes which I now understand. It was not me to question some details during my training held by our Sifu but now I feel I should have :-). For instance our class had to lean backwards way to much in order to have our back fully straight in 90° to the floor and it always felt awkward (but built up strong legs nevertheless). Anyway, liked your video, makes me want to practice again! Thank you, good job, if you allow me to say!
Great explanation thanks
So good so mats thank you mai friend the Best paouer favorite spesial!!!
Excellent explanation.
I do find difficult to set a stable spine posture , this details help and make difference. Thanks
Well done. She's super strong
My legs start shaking like an earthquake after 30 seconds lol. Mad respect to you both.
So cool and the best
Very clear, thank you!
Thank you for the kind feedback : )
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the greetings :)
Helpful, thanks
Welcome, we are happy to help :)
Thank you for sharing this. I am working on perfecting my mabu form. If mobility in hips prevents one from sinking low enough with the feet pointed foreword, you mentioned it is better to stand a bit higher with correct orientation of the feet, rather than turning them out to get thighs parallel to ground. In this instance and with regular practice, will hip mobility naturally improve and result in a deeper stance over time, or does one need to address hip mobility separately? Thanks again.
Sorry for the late reply. If your hip mobility will increase by standing Mabu is a bit a question of type. Some people do, but usually, they have already quite open Hips. Others do less and need extra exercise to help the process. Nevertheless, should you be mindful in that work, since not every hip joint is designed for lower stances. A stinging pain into the joint is a sign for impingement and should not be through stretches or mabu be triggered more.
Incredible Ma Bu 😅
Indeed. I've been standing in Ma Bu (on and off) since the 1980s, but I still can't do it anywhere near as well as Kerem ;-)
How breathing should be done ? where should i keep the awareness while breathing ? Focus ? Thanks for the coming response .
The way of breathing should be as in any other qi gong exercises in our system. I made here a video where you can get a basic understanding to the method : ua-cam.com/video/rtNmwRHngwg/v-deo.html
ohh horse stance is taught good.
Hello, should the feet on Ma Bu be pointed forward, or open 30 degrees? I've seen people do it both ways and I don't know which would be correct. Or does it depend on style and family? Thanks
Hey Roberto, Thank you for your question! As you say, it is a matter of Style and Family, there are different approaches to it and both has its reason. Our way is to keep the feet parallel, it is a way for us to charge the outer muscle chain of the legs and to use it later on for power creation and stance stability
Mantap
where should the weight be on the feet? the front , middle or heels or balanced on all 3?
Thank you
Thank you for the question :). The weight should be more in the front of the foot. We call the point Yong Quan Point. (you can google the point, its a basic chinese medicin energy point) But even though this point is the main point we balance our weight on, the weight still should be spread through the whole foot. This means, left and right is equal weight, and to the front a bit more than to the back. Like that the full foot is full with weight but the center is on the Yong Quan Point.
@@xuangongfu Thank you for clarifying that for me. Great video, keep them coming. Train hard, Train always🙏💪
Hi. Why is it that everybody does things differently in Wudang. In some classes feet are pointing to the sides. In your style feet are pointing forward.
Different variations serve different purposes. At Wudang, there are different styles and teachers who emphasize different purposes, so their preferred variations also differ. Technically, Wudang Principles / Xuan Gong Fu does not represent the Wudang schools, instead it is an independent style based (and closely related) to the Wudang internal arts.
What about the butt? should the butt muscles relax like in a sitting position or tighten?
Good question! They should tighten. Like that the rear chain of the legs is getting activated and trained as well! This is important to develop a more balanced muscle situation for the legs
@@xuangongfu Awesome!!! Thank you very much for the information/help. Cheers and keep up the great work!!!!
Should the pelvis be at a anterior tilt , neutral or posterior tilt?
It should be in a slide posterior tilt. You can imagen you are pulling the tailbone down into the earth. The lower back roundens the pelvis tilts, but the front of the hip joints stills stay open and available. Thank you for the question
Horse is stance and mabu stance are one thing? Or have a difference?
Horse stance and Mabu are the same. Ma means horse and Bu stance :) Have a good day :)
@@hiddenturtle9610 appreciate to you
Stance is too low. What style is this?
what is the purpose of learning this dance?? You seem so vulnerable holding such a stance
There are many purposes for practicing it. One would be the build up of lower body power as well as lower body structure. This becomes useful in takedown attacks and defence for example.
@@xuangongfu That makes sense. Thank you.
UFC fighter Henry Cejudo fought in the stance against Wilson Reiss. Google it.
Dragon lines
She's strong . Wow. I can't do 40 seconds yet.
Thanks for response master. Can you explain how to this dun ma breathing is done and intentions / thoughts to have to generate that much power this person is generating. Please check this and reply
Part -1 1 : ua-cam.com/video/zoCSKvz4nB8/v-deo.html explaination for her power
part -2 : ua-cam.com/video/eBrsJkbOs6Y/v-deo.html ( in this one she explains about internal conditioning,which is dun ma and does for hours and hours as she claimed in the video to generate such power ) Can you please check these video and explain how the breathing should be & intentions / thoughts should be to visualise while being in that horse stance./mabu stance . Please Enlighten her technique of generating such power . Thank you.
I kept feeling like I want him to hurry up and stop pausing when he talks while she's in that low stance. It's so hard to hold it for long, but she doesn't show any sign of fatigue.
Coucou, désolé mais les pieds sont beaucoup trop écartés pour la la position ma bu du kung-fu 😉
All your stance are belong to horse
This damaged my knees 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
I use Mabu to help with knee pain which I experience sometimes. Starting with a low horse stance can damage your knee. The way I do horse stance is to stand in a high horse stance for one the three minutes. This really help to correct my knee pain.
You need to check Kneesovertoesguy Ben Patrick on UA-cam for knee pain and stregnth . He had surgery in knee and couldn't do shit. But now He is ripped athlete and coach now.
No need to rush, standing fairly upright eg eg just down a few inches is absolutely fine early on. Then slide a little deeper as say each 30 seconds go by.
Never let your knees go infront of your toes.
Everyone started off at modest levels.
Infact for health u dont even need the deep stances.
Too wide
Postura incorrecta
Porqué piensas eso?