The Art of FIXING other people’s Art
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2021
- I've noticed since 2019, there's been a trend of "fixing "people's art" but not in a fun way, in a derogatory way. There's a whole subset for it now. A lot of it tends to be in light of certain cute or attractive female characters or anime coming to mainstream USA. Hmm. Here are my thoughts on the whole thing.
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Mohammed Agbadi: • FIXING ART: Zeefixesar...
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J. Scott Campbell’s Response To ‘Fixing’ Of His Amazing Spider-Man #601 Cover
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Ever notice that nobody has a problem with buff guy characters with skin-tight clothing and a bulge in the crotch?
But draw or depict a female character as sexy, large bosom, shapely ass, etc, and everyone goes bat-shit crazy, saying: *"MISOGYNY!!!",* *"SEXISM!!!",* *"MALE GAZE!!!"* and all that other happy-horse-shit.
Agreed. So annoying.
That's why I never used Twitter and I deactivated my account. My life was already fine and not using Twitter, like, ever was a bullet I didn't know I dodged.
Yes that is true
BILLY hates that double standard
Trust me in some way, the fight for equality has drawn a thicker line between the genders, more than erasing it.
I love a sexy strong woman character, over a male one any day.
Her strength doesn't come from her sex appeal but from her actual strength and confidence.
Anime "Ara Ara" 😊😏
Feminism started out as a movement for equality and originally I thought it was a misnomer before the shift but hey, at least the title is more accurate lol
Art is about expression. You can't fix someone's expression. So these people who "Fix" art are just salty and looking for attention
Exactly
Bars
I think you can fix someone's expression if they want to be anatomically correct or if they have trouble with color/perspective but still are doing their best, however, these people are not doing anything other than censoring what they don't like.
Ay love both of y’all’s vids
It sometimes feels like it also comes from a place of jealousy/entitlement - like because the artist drew something/someone they can’t replicate irl they try to “fix it” so that it more replicates them because their jealous of what the art “represents”.
It also comes from another place of “hey you didn’t draw it the way I like it/ it doesn’t represent ME so you drew it wrong”. So yeah entitlement
"Stop depicting women as unrealistic idealised sexy versions of women. Draw women of all shapes and sizes!"
"But I like this size."
"YOU CAN'T. You should like all sizes but this one."
Like, should sexy women in real life feel bad or ashamed about the way they look or something?
I've had people tell me that certain characters (always female for some reason) are "unrealistic", nobody has [choose something] like that in real life. I've been able to find people with those same attributes in real life.
Of course I'm talking about builds and physical human features, not tentacle limbs or cybernetic parts.
There's a lot of people on this planet, and so much variation. You can find just about everything if you keep looking. Sometimes it's a natural just the way they are thing, sometimes it's surgery, and other times it's from a hell of a lot of hard work that takes many years, but they do exist.
Like personally I dont enjoy sexualised stuff though honestly im fine with it! I can look at it and I can acknowledge the effort, work and talent that went into the art. Seeing a girl in a sexualised position Im not gonna go shame her for it, Im not gonna shame a girl for wearing short shorts if thats how she likes to look
Yes,they should, because a lot of guys like me cant get 'em. 😍😢😭
There is this Japanese or Taiwanese (I forgot) artist who draws sexy women,using herself as reference. She has an amazing anatomy to put into slightest most family friendly way of wording as possible. I love how if she were to get criticism for drawing ‘unrealistic women’ she could definitely defend herself because *she* herself is the reference 🤣
@@hydradiagonal3404 Or the various cosplayers who manage to take the "unrealistic" looking women and actually dress to look like them.
This stuff is weird neo-puritanism. It's trying to tell everyone how to live... solely because you don't like it. But also trying to sound like you're morally righteous... when you have no moral basis for it.
These "fixers" are constantly putting down women by drawing them with tiny breasts and being generally rounded. Why can't women be allowed to have big breasts in these people's eyes? Media doesn't help either by thinking giving women no breasts makes them a "strong and capable character"
Thank you!
Bingo
yeah and they making women ,,normal‘‘ as a non american i find it disturbing that they make women fat and call them normal. A healthy person is relative skinny. And especially in action movies or shounen anime where there is a lot of fighting invovled it is only logically that both the women and men are athletic.
The ”fixes” lack a lot of variety, since there’s so much that’s ”forbidden”.
What can I say, people are stupid and evil hairless apes.
There is no such thing as "fixing art" , it is just people forcefully asserting their own fanarts on others .
At this point why not just tag the people who 'fix' characters with the original character and say the artist 'fixed' their art
@UCOZxCVNC9FLQhY37eDEzxrw tell them to credit the original or suffer the curse
Don't forget the oft repeated, "Do better!" Used to assert moral superiority. Ultimately, thats what the "fixing," is about. "This art that was acceptable and celebrated by my ilk before is now considered to be in bad taste. I will now demonstrate MY adherence to this new "philosophy," in order to assert my place in this new hierarchy."
i thought it was more on desperate for attention for folks to see their art.....
So it's just regular fanart then.
Tumblr: **Pokes bigger artist for literally no reason**
Artist: **attacks back**
Tumblr: **Shocked Pikachu face**
Isn’t that also Twitter
@@abysswalker2594 yes
@@abysswalker2594 mostly twitter honestly, tumblr is quite literally the only social media i use and i never see stuff like this (hence why it's the only social media i use)
Wow
As mike tyson said. "Social media made yall to comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it"
Honestly, I guarantee if people could get decked after the toxic shit the do online, people would be a lot less shitty
This is why I'm for resurrecting duels and making them legally protected. If you wanna act a fool and insult a person, then be prepared to suffer the consequences.
How to piss off the entire Steven Universe fandom in one picture:
Draw any character slightly thinner and imply they're in a straight relationship.
I want to learn how to draw just to do this lol.
There was someone from 4Chan who made a Tumblr where they whitewashed SU characters and people threw an absolute fit. Then he said "I do this because I'm black and trans and have been made to hate myself" and all of a sudden people began going "OMG poor bb we support and love you uwu."
Some men want to watch the world burn...
Others bring marshmallows.
@@hippiehippo9030 I bring popcorn with extra butter, not marshmallows, unless we making smores
Why in the ever loving fuckadodle fuck is your pfp giving me Paper's Please vibes
DO IT PLS BRUH
Alteori: "I am not a furry!"
Alteori when drawing a dog: "It's my vewwy good fwiend, _Biggus..._ _Dickus..."_
LMAO ok I see you Monty LMAO
It can be a new Japanese light novel "i was turn into a furry by a non-furry furry art."
@@zerokura
All she needs to say is uwu at this point
@@Alteori lols, we'll all love you no matter what.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I’ve noticed that a lot of the art that people “fix” are of sexy women. SJWs always have problems with sexy women and love making characters look like men. I’m a female and while I don’t like showing off my body I appreciate the women, both real and fictional, who are bold and sexy. This whole thing about the male gaze is stupid. If a man finding a woman sexy angers you, go get a mental health evaluation.
The great irony: Those who scream about 'male gaze' tend to be the ones no guy would ever be interested in. Symptomatic of their jealousy is all it is.
According to these people men are not allowed to find women attractive.
They find attractive and healthy people intimidating and they want to make everything puerile and ugly just like them. So they mutilate photos and drawings. For now. I want to be very, very wrong, but I expect in the near future you'll see women (and men) attacked and rutilated while the mob screams "beauty is violence". And I'm not being the tiniest bit hyperbolic.
@@tenchraven This is why I love troll campaigns I want this stuff to happen sooner than later to make more normal people fed up with this sort of stuff. Just like throwing frogs into boiling water rather than put them into water turning into a slow boil. (yes this has been debunked with real frogs but you kind of get my point)
It's amazing how aesthetically pleasing and attractively shaped bodies are being called "unrealistic" by people who are for the most part formless rainbow blobs. These looks clearly are realistic if you have seen a single cosplay worth its salt, or someone that just dresses eccentrically and happens to be somewhere between svelte and artfully curvy. And while most people aren't going around looking like the super fit, super ripped, sleek and sexy animé and comic characters daily for the most part, it's calle Fantasy for a reason. Because it is either difficult, or impossible to have it in real life, and that in itself is the draw. Pun intended. And plus-sized people should feel free to experiment alike and find their swag, rather than tear down everyone else's out of a narcissistic envy complex.
I’m an art teacher. Normally I give my two cents on where my students need to improve, but I always hold myself back from “what would I do?” Because I want them to learn and develop on their own, but also know where they are making errors. Campbell was in the right.
The most important thing I learned from art instruction was ways of looking at my own art and seeing the flaws, so yes. Although I wouldn't mind the occasional "what would I do" depending on he setting - in an art class there are usually other people drawing the same subject that you can learn from.
I'm good at writing and for a time I worked at a local newspaper where my job was to correct articles before being published. I had to learn the fine line between giving people pointers and straight up imposing my own writing style over them.
was an art major in collage, we all knew that if we were having trouble with sometihng we could ask this one teacher, Brad, for help and he would take the brush, pencil, whatever, and finsh the whole hting for us LOL
Wow
in the case of Sonic, people didn't "fix" the art, they simply said it looked bad and the artists decided to change it to something better. meanwhile, the "art fixers" were complaining that people are trying to stop the artistic expression of the original artists
Yeah, I mean it makes SENSE why Knuckles would be black considering his dreads, his themes often being hip-hop, his tribal roots, etc. But listen to this:
If the human Knuckles interpretation is drawn to be white, *THE HUMAN KNUCKLES INTERPRETATION IS DRAWN TO BE WHITE. PERIOD.*
@@deltaknight2764 Yeah, if I create a white or black character then someone decides to make them asian or mexican then I have no problem with that. But if they specifically said they "fixed" it, then that's just stupid and highly disrespectful.
That's like me saying that I'm going to fix Picasso's paintings because he doesn't know the way a human actually looks.
Hmm, when I stretch, I make the primal sound of that "it's wednesday my dudes" guy.
I've done that too 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just emit sounds that cause people to worry I'm having a stroke
I think his UA-cam channel is Jimmy Here.
I make popping noises with my back and make a sound like a deflating tire
His name is Jimmy, and he has a UA-cam channel! It's called Jimmy Here and it's very entertaining (to me).
Real talk, that chameleon was on point, props to the kid that drew that.
"A chameleon is a lizard with a long tongue that can be any colour it wants?
Watch me work."
-chief forensic sketch artist in 2nd Grade
It’s a really cute chameleon.. and the kid probably have fun making it.. which is the most important thing.. 😊
I think it looks cute
I agree
When she brought up zilla I was thinking to myself "am I the only one that likes that design?"
I love that design! That movie got me into Godzilla
Most Kaiju fans agree that it's an ok to good monster design, it's just a terrible Godzilla design.
As a kaiju? Yes, yes it does
As a Godzilla? No, no it doesn't
After watching the first time I never consider it as a Godzilla anymore, but a sub-sub-species of the G
@@whitealpha6yearsago132 The offspring from the animated series was a fairly legit Godzilla. Unconventional in design, but it was an actual worthy character.
Haven't watched much of the animated series tie-in, but I heard it was dope.
Fun fact about the butchery of the Mary Jane art; after people kept attempting to "call out" the original artist for bullying a child, the one who "fixed" the superior original art replied to clarify that they're actually in their 20's.
They also advertised their commission price sheet.
Marav Reviews “They” can be used to refer to a person of unspecified gender.
@@marphy1451 Yes, but it gets extremely confusing in a long or complex conversation. It makes sentences much harder to understand especially as a non-native speaker. Using my point of view, italian is an HEAVILY gendered language where almost every word can be recognized as male or female, so the concept of using "they" in a singular way is even weirder and makes no sense at all.
Imo, you can show your pronoun in your profile to let people know how you identify yourself, but that's it: in the spoken language you should always refer to someone either as He or She; if your sexuality leads more towards one of the two groups, you're called with that pronoun; if you identify in the middle or don't have idea, you use your biological pronoun.
It's as easy as that.
Lemon Lair yeah as a non native myself, specifically of Spanish language (another language that calls objects with genders) I can understand why it could be confusing, still in most scenarios context should give all the information needed to work out wether it’s a unspecified gender individual or a group of individuals; and yeah you’re right, in spoken language one must refer to the person to their gender or the one they (the person of unspecified gender) call themselves, but this is a conversation through text, so things like visual context is at lack so calling someone “they” is appropriate.
@@marphy1451 true, I was giving a more general view even though, at first glance, I misunderstood the meaning of the OP comment
@@lemonlair2508 nah you're just being rude. I'm non native as well its not a problem. Also "they" has been used for a long time to refer to people in a neutral form
It's my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, its that the bulk of people " fixing art" are sex negatives that are in denial about there own body dismorphia de-sexualizing things.
Not really, some do the complete opposite.
Yes most of it is that LOL
The word "hypersexual" keeps being used to justify it.
I challenge anyone using that word to present something "normal sexual" or "under sexual".
Because they only seem to respond by erasing the sexuality altogether.
Some are prudes some are intimidated by a drawing.
@@vortex7733 All of them are insecure.
I really hate this trend it's very disrespectful and just plain childish if you think about it because they think that art is only what they want and noone can make art in any other way like a child who doesn't like it when they don't get their way, this is very frustrating
Bem colocado, e ótimo inglês ein
It's just a drawing, what's the big deal?
@@jeggsonvohees2201It isn't the drawing, anyone can and showld draw what they want, the big deal is calling it "fixed" as if the drawing was flawed in the first place, when the way it's done was clearly intentional, THAT'S the big deal.
But this is clearly explained all across the whole video and comments, so i doubt that you were actually curious and not just someone with an already fixed oposite opinion that wants to show you don't agree in a taunting maner, well, did my job saying it either way
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Call back when someone "fixes" your art. Let's see how you feel about it.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Clearly you don't create anything of value, or you'd understand.
Alteori: I'm not a furry.
Also Alteori: This dot being here is vital to the art.
Yeah when i saw this on clownfish TV, i was like "its about the boobs isn't it....eyeroll" The best part of this story is the guy that made the original cover had the BEST COMEBACK by "fixing" the "fix".
Even better, the fixer deleted their account
_"But alteeooooori, don't you know that being attractive is wrong, it has to be fixed! REEEE!"_ hahahaha. 😂
Excuse me, if that's a thing.
LOL
@Cartoonist Louis
2021 Movies: attack on men
Twitter: attack on women
I wonder what's next.
@Cartoonist Louis me too,
since high school, it took me 2 years to make my female characters attractive. My mom and dad are artist to, my mom always tell me women always have the curves, either they're skinny or bulky they always have the curves. Men are always stock, Pointing the width of the chest, ect.
That have stuck in my head.
If these guys fixed these already established art, they have waaaay too much time.
Well, yes.it should be an even playing field, which its currently not.
Your comment was deemed fatphobic prepare for gulag.
"Fixing it" is purposefully aggressive. Always has been. Always will be. They know what they are doing and I'm certain you know too. They are insulting people backhandedly or trying to make a statement and think they are being clever.
These high maintenance types are always so passive-aggressive, so no surprise there.
Unsurprisingly, they are SJWs.
I think you're right. Those people are attacking the artist for drawing sexy females by screwing up the drawing.
@@pauldacon828 That's your definition of art? It's used solely for insults and backhanded compliments? A sad world you live in.
@@pauldacon828 Well, glad I live in my world where art is for fun. Also, money. But mostly fun.
As an artist. I know artists could be sensitive about their work. For you who don't know is the equivalent of telling you I'm going to fix your kid.
"I made a redesign for uzaki chan :) she is now normal" ..Why would I want her to be normal? º¿º
Normal is boring
@@blueace1000 And the most funny thing about that is that by saying that "now uzaki-chan is normal" is that they are insulting normal women. There is 20 something women who naturally look like uzaki-chan.
@@katriheiskanen2374 pretty sure the one who "fixed" uzaki have never seen a real asian women, alot of girls around me naturally look like her
@@ThanhNguyen-ky2yt Yeah pretty sure.
A problem generally with art fixers is that they "fix" the art more uglier, fatter and most of times also darker. Then they say stuff like " no she looks normal "etc. Like are they trying to tell me there is no beautiful or skinny or white or all three people in the world.
Also they shame people in their art also. There was this one artist who draw a black character lighter than she really is because the artist could not create darker color with medium the artist was using. The artist explained this in the artist post with the art. The artist was even sorry she could not draw the real skin color. And then these fixer came and shamed her for it and i think they even fixed the art...
The reason it wasn’t normal to begin with is because normal is not very interesting
Everyone sees nature with different eyes
-Bob Ross
Bob Ross is god at art
@@ericoneill-thomas8492 he is the best at landscapes but ain’t getting to sleep watching shadman 💀😂
@@fnumbuh How many people you think "fix" shadman's art? I will guess none of they probably die at the sight of some of his work.
Happy trees
Funny thing about Bob Ross is that artists at the time would hate him. Saying he isn't an artist because he teaches how to paint things to simple. That art should be hard to do. Some would even call Bob Ross a failed painter... Like really have you seen his paintings. How did he fail even the slightest. So many beautiful paintings.
If they claim to fix art by making it ugly, maybe we should claim to fix their art by making it beautifully, and by we I’m talking those with the actual skill to draw.
lol
That sounds awesome
If i had anybit of artistic skill i would
But sadly my drawing makes their 'fixed' art look like the sixteen chapel ceiling
@@kylxlxnxdwxrds1856 if their art is a sixteen chapel ceiling then the original is in the heavenly realms.
@@kylxlxnxdwxrds1856 feel you
"dogs don't do missionary..."
Oh my god!
Making people step on legos????? You monsters!
😆
@@Alteori this is no laughing matter
just find the people that "fix" art, take their original works, and draw a crude stick figure copy, then post it as a fixed version of thier art. if the ship two characters, change one of the characters, make gay couples straight and straight couples gay, watch them tear their hair out.
I actually want to see someone do that now just to see the chaos that comes out of that from these "fixers"
Reminds me of the Bull on Wall Street, when that woman put a little girl statue in front of the bull then the og artist of the bull just put a crappy dog statue wizzing on the girl (or Shädman’s infamous drawing lol)
Damn pay to see that shit go down to bad I draw like a hyperactive chicken or I would do it myself
Oh I like this. Delicious retribution.
Fuck yeah let's start doing this.
3:29 That chameleon looks adorable as is colorful.
I thought the chameleon was ADORABLE.
alteori: I'm not a furry!
Also alteori: 8:58
Jajajaja didn’t notice until now
I was attempting the Mary jane poses to see which one is more comfortable so I couldn’t see it
I have to say Alteori, you are a breath of fresh air among people trying to control other peoples art mediums. Thank you for setting the record straight. As an author myself, this is something I will have to worry about down the road. I appreciate you being a voice for all kinds of creators. I salute you.
4:09 take a shot everytime alteori mentions Godzilla in non Godzilla vids
Lol I wonder if she knows that there's a show based in that design about his offspring zilla Jr
I don't want to be my uncle though
Sure thing
LMAO Im sorry LOL
@@dionelmejia8093 kid me loved that show
I hate when people do this. It's just being disrespectful to the original artist and especially when they go after them and say they are "fixing" it.
Not to mention when the 'fixed' image is no where near the standard of the original.
The left forearm being behind the body while still being able to reach the cup would need the arm to be about 6 inches or so longer than it should be.
And the 'fixed' leg looks awful in addition to the issues with the new pose that were mentioned in the video.
I think the biggest problem with the 'fix' is as you say though, it's just plain disrespectful to do it in the first place, but also mean and petty to go after them for it.
Especially when done for the sole purpose of making yourself look good at someone else's expense.
Kind of reminds me of the old vaudeville routine where the one comic takes the other comic's pocket-watch, dunks it in a pitcher of water, slams it against a lamp-post a few times and then stomps on it, then hands it back to the first comic, saying, "Here, I fixed your watch for you." And the poor shlub is left saying, "But...but there was nothing wrong with my watch...!"
I always like how a lot of Twitter artists idea of 'fixing' is simply making the character fat, dark skinned and have non existent boobs. It's almost like they refuse to believe that out there, in that big wide open world. That differing bodytypes actually exist.
They promote diversity, duh! Diversity *obviously* meaning this one marginalized group and noone else.
It's hilariously ironic because they're basically saying that fat, dark-skinned, or flat-chested women are ugly/unattractive and that no man would find someone like that attractive.
@@fruitschinposamuraig7129ironically it may be implied that dark skin women is not beautiful,which is untrue. Them trying to be inclusive ended up being insulting,God.
To claim that they are inclusive they are being reversed exclusive 😂
"Back then I was obsessed with them still am" says people are only going to focus on that part i wonder why
Lol love your videos
"Fixing art" is just another example of the on going epidemic of narcissism.
Seriously what is wrong with people today in my opinion I think people should leave the artist original vision of a character or whatever alone because if I was creating an original drawing I wouldn't want anybody to try to fix it
@@animezilla4486 what do you expect from a generation that grew up with participation trophies and every one of their parents tell them how special and unique they are?
@@gtrljh Part of it is that and there were probably tons of narcissist before, it's just that they didn't have a platform back then where we can openly see them (like the internet).
They gave her a smaller chest too, she wasn't even abnormally large to begin with.
Yeah, it was big, but REALISTICALLY big. Like how an actual D-cup would be.
What?! Women can have large breasts? Blasphemy!
@@deltaknight2764 Yeah exactly, does it go against some kind of narrative or agenda they have? Its almost like they are jealous or something, kinda like that fat acceptence movement that likes to attack and shame poeple who are skinny or have lost weight.
Common sense is so rare it's a damn superpower, I.e. "my Common Sense is tingling"
Saying: "Let me fix your art piece" is like saying: "Oh yeah, you're sneezing the wrong way, do it like this". One exception is precisely what it's stated here: getting into an stablished domain, you're bound to follow some patterns (or rules if you must). Music for example, when you're playing classic music, you follow certain structures for it to resemble classic music and be creative around this these structures. Everything is relative to purpose too though, if you meant to do something and you achieve it, there is nothing wrong with it; if you didn't, whatever change that gets you closer to that idea, is considered a "fix".
BILLY says the only time I had to fixed someone’s art was BILLY Jr drawing...I saved him from getting in trouble at school
Billy you rock!
Lol
You are amazing Billy!
Hi Billy I know you from Radio TTS
Because you're a legend BILLY! 🥰
Moral of the story: leave other artwork as it is and let the artist themselves fix their own art.
I really don't think it's that at all. Alteori even pointed out that the act of creating a version of a piece of art that aligns with how your own vision sees it isn't bad in and of itself. It's more about not engaging in the smug and derisive attitude that comes along with claiming that you've "fixed" the original piece when you do so.
@@alearnedman If you make 8t better than it was you deserve to be smug.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 enjoyment of artwork is subjective, there is no objective "better".
You could try and argue that somebody used more "refined" or "complex" techniques making it the "better" of the versions but that falls apart when you realise that simplicity can often look far better than overly complex 'noise'.
In otherwords, no you have every right to make an alternative rendition of artwork or an existing character but you have absolutely no right to act smug or high and mighty when claiming you "fixed" it, even more so if that "fix" had nothing to do with techniques and objective drawing skill and everything to do with virtue signaling.
Or if you’re gonna change art
Don’t call it fixing and don’t put it on blast
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Oh so you're one of THOSE people, hmmmm
Loved seeing you drawing your avatar!
I laughed at everything you said because it is so true. Also I'm from Queens
First of all: Subbed >:3
Second: This is literally the real life equivalent of that shitty Batwoman dialogue.
"I need you to fix his suit"
"The suit is literal perfection"
"It will be. When it fits a woman."
This "fixing" nonsense is one of hundreds of thousands of reasons why it has become increasingly difficult for me over the past few years to even consider wanting to associate myself with a fandom. I've seen too many examples of people claiming themselves to be a bigger, better, and more honest fan by using methods like this. I hold my interests at arms length more and more because I get tired of running into clods like this.
This is also applies to my disinterest in creating fanart. Not for a lack of ability. But more so that I'd rather create my own characters, and know full well their design is my artistic intent. I wish these people would apply their efforts in a similar way more often.
Additionally I can see how this can correlate to movie industry; this flood of remakes and soft-reboots, and how it leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths compared to their original versions, could be seen as a form of hypocrisy if you liked what came before.
But if someones interpretation can be seen as just that, it's not too much for me to just ignore it and move on if I don't like the new spin on things.
Ironically I personally enjoy Shin Godzilla over the current western iteration (Not saying I hate it though. I like that version too :D), even though the latter is far closer to the traditional TOHO design. But both are treated as separate vision and are taken as such. They're not claiming to be the TRUE Godzilla.
It's when people spin shit to claim their vision as a better or canonical version, while actively or passively tearing down what came before that bugs me. This sub culture mindset can die a swift death. And the world of art will be better for it.
LMAAAAAOOOO OMG YES!!!! LMAO the batman suit thing. What it boils down to is courtesy. It's more classy to say why you think someone's art is awful, than to be like, "MY version of THEIR art is better because THEIRS is shit"
You have my respect for this
Same kind of people will tell you that art is whatever you want it to be then turn around and tell you it actually just means whatever they want it to be.
I love how like 9 out of 10 times the redrawer just adds 50 pounds lmao
i cannot express how happy i am that people like Alteori exist. we need more people like you.
I heard about one "art fixer" that said to the original artist "There I fixed your shit for you" followed by a blush emoji like they were a saint.
I see that a lot, (the emoji thing) especially on Twitter
God it comes of as so passive-aggressive.
Everyone is talking big about "body positivity", but let's be real, this body positivity is only targeted towards big/chubby/heavy people. Because I dare to say that if you are petite, lanky or "sexy" build, you will get nowadays just as much, if not even more shitty unnecessary comments by people who judge you. Ironically, at least a lot of times in my case, by people who have more meat on their bones and would start whining about it if they were opposed to a snarky comment about their body. Body positivity should be more about accepting ALL type of bodies. No one should feel ashamed for it. And for fox's sake, stop pretending that "sexy bodies" (thin waist big boobs/butt) aren't a thing. They are. Deal with it.
Obesity is BAD. Every single medical study on body size PROVES how unhealthy it is. There must be a way we can easily turn this against these crazed leftists for trying to make people sickly and die... hmmm... COOF targets obese people... yessssss, there it is! We can spread the word that the 'body positivity' crowd are trying to make people more vulnerable of dying from COOF!! "Never let a good crisis go to waste", after all. The left doesn't realize... we can do that too. >:}
These people generally aren't the norm though. Body positivity has nothing to do with shaming people. This runs counter to the ideal.
I didn’t say that Body positivity is shaming people? My statement is that body positivity is only targeted towards one specific group while overshadowing all the others who struggle just as much if not even more, because one side gets normalized while the others not. At least in my opinion based on my experience and observations.
I personally hate when people talk about “body positivity” Like sure do what ever you like, but you can’t complain about being fat when you are downing 15 bigmacs. Then start cry about thin people!
body positivity is mostly a phrase for obese people to body shame everyone else for either living normally, or really just drawing normally, thats my hot take and anyone who uses body positivity no matter what has no valid opinion because more then likely it goes "shes too skinny" or "ReAl wOmEn DoN't LoOk LiKe ThaT" and can be disproven incredibly especially....i'm sick of it and anyone who is in "body positivity" needs to have a reality check, and probably a diet as well, the whole movement is nothing more then toxic pricks who lost their self control and need a reason to not blame themselves
Thank you for putting this video out! Honestly I absolutely agree with the entire rant as many people are often misinformed and go after someone without hearing the entire story to begin with
And it’s especially great to hear other people’s opinions on the matter, as well as giving accurate information so that people don’t get completely misinformed about it
11:46 "Dogs don't missionary" - Alteori
Shit, I was hoping this video was about old art repair. Always had an appreciation for someone who takes a 500 year old art and fixes the holes and damage, restoring it to its original beauty...
I think the term for that is "art restoration"
Art restoration is good art fixing LOL
@@kellieseiler7105 Exactly! I know a guy that specializes in iconography, mostly walls in old churches. He also does it the traditional way, using all the technics and color making from the middle ages.
@@gardevior1 Fair enough! One is art and the other shit posting XD
If i draw a female character busty and someone from out of nowhere redraw it to make it skinnier then saying it "fixed". That's a crime for me
I want to hear more about those villains you made the legos with faces. It sounds hilarious and I love it
I swear someone is gonna post something saying "i fixed alteori's art" and its just gonna be a hyper realistic image of a fox thats just black lol
People have drawn fanart with differing proportions and fantastical shit since the dawn of mankind. The issue comes when these people peddle their shit as the 'true version'
This is the thing that grinds my gears, this right here.
Yeah, fanart can be really cool and really fun, because that’s how some people show their love for a story and it’s characters, but to say your fanart is better or ‘fixed’ is ridiculous
Alteori: I'm not a furry.
Also Alteori: *talks about drawing sexualized animal characters and whale dongs*
whale dogs are sea monsters
@@dreliq981 literally😶
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Fun fact: Lizards have two dongs
@@ms.chomper5024 wha... I... uh...
I just randomly came here and I must say this was deeply refreshing. Thanks.
im so glad to find a video about this. love your other videos aswell.
Those people who "fixes" other people's art are probably karens
eh I can't see it
Not Karens, worse.
Karens in training
It's kinda like baking a cake. You would feel pretty stink if someone just smooshed some other stuff all over your cake that you worked so hard on, and they just say that they "fixed" it for you...
Man her beauty on the cover also shows the realtionship dynamic to an extent. Or atleast a part of it. A nice beautiful wife that clearly supports her husband with her t-shirt and is sitting comfortably and just woke up drinking coffe and there is Peter leaving that behid to put his life on the line to probably end up half dead while his loving wife looks on in worry. Jeez dude the image says a lot.
If you still read this your comment aged so bad. The Spiderman writer self inserted himself into the latest comic issue where he cucked Spiderman and had kids with MJ. Even the tumblr goons cant ever headcannon a story that bad.
Western comics is going through dark times,so I kinda get it
"I was obsessed. I still am, but that was even more the case before"
Oh, Alteori. Don't change
😆😆😆
I am a young 13 digital artist and my friends and SOME family members are made fun of me for the different way I draw art, like they would come up to me and say, you should change this or you should do that, so from then on no I show no one my art. It's just for myself 😊💖
Show your art when you feel confortable with it, nobody should impose their vision on it.
I will say that consider that some people doing that might think that they're helping you improve. I'm not telling you that what they're doing is right but sometimes knowing intent helps.
I offer this advice as someone with the artistic talent that rivals a clumsy 4 year old. However, I've got plenty of experience with "reviews" of my writing work.
What you are producing (good or bad) is only for you to judge. Yours is the only opinion that matters. That doesn't mean you have to enjoy people saying rude things about your efforts, but in the end, you're the only one that matters. The only comparison that matters is whether you are better this year than you were last year.
My only caveat to this is if you're drawing professionally. Then the main opinion that matters is the person paying you. If they want you to draw something that you think is awful, that's their issue, they pay the bills.
I am too lol. I never share my digital. My reason is because I think its awful and people will hate it even though they probably wont
I was the opposite, friends and family would always say how great my art was while I knew it sucked and wanted to improve and was dying for some constructive criticism. This was long before the internet though.
People fixing other people's art is equivalent to going to the national museum and spray painting paintings on the wall and saying it was inspirational. This should be called vandalism
Imagine drawing a line and someone tells you that's not how you draw a line
It's so infuriating with someone takes something pretty, makes it ugly, and then claims they fixed it.
This shit is why I'm legitimately apprehensive about getting into doing art. I used to draw, but I messed my arm up bad when I was young and gave up. I wanna get into it again, but it just... wigs me out man.
Great video, Alt.
AEY! Don't give up!
Just don't live your life on twitter and you'll make it through just fine.
Ay! You’re there, and I’m here, but I’m just telling you that you’re better than that. Don’t act like what you have a right to make is deemed wrong by the views of one sole audience; everyone has their crowd, and if people are gonna whine and stare at what you feel proud to make in your own space, then I say that they can stay mad.
* read dong art * The entire post had such a different hidden meaning rwading it before I realised it was "doing art"
Honestly this is part of the reason I come up with stories, it give me inspiration and I need to get my thoughts and my personal take on a genre out of my head. Not that I ever let people see it. 😂
I hope Alteori doesn't mind i save this video to show others who have this issue cause it is a great explanation of what to do for other entitled artists out there, i personally never had this problem yet cause I haven't really picked up a pencil since the early 2000's........
But I am sure there are others of whom I've friended who do and it would help if they approach this problem, So thank you Alteori :)
Redrawing someone else's art is fine - most art being produced on the daily is some variant of this - but "fixing" it requires being able to articulate what's wrong with the original. And "the Male Gaze!" isn't an argument.
You know I’m an artist so I completely agree with you
When people would talk about me in school I was discouraged by teachers from confronting them.
Because they would punch you and you would get a weeks long suspension......
@@Maigus224 That's how school works. Some person says shit about you.
You try to confront them they Assult you.
Then You get in trouble.
My dad always said to knock them out cold. I found it more effective to mentally provoke and manipulate the bully until they lash out in anger and laugh through the pain knowing full well their suspension was worth it. Yeah I’m a bit of a psychopath lol
When I was in elementary school during lunch one time, the aides silenced everyone in the cafeteria and explained the way to stop someone from chasing you, is to just not run away from them. Then everything would be fine.
A room full of children then silently asked themselves "But...... what do they do when they chase you?"
@@haku8135 The Teachers probably just stand there like Deer in headlights.
lmao that ding dong rant
you're alright
One thing I'll admit I like and respect about you, it's your bluntness and honesty. Your rant has given my thoughts a voice and I bet you're speaking for most of the human population.
Aside from drawing animals in a certain way.
21:24 I’m just gonna say this, the original was truer to Knuckle’s skin tone as Knuckle’s snout is exposed skin and shows what his skin looks like underneath the red fur and quills.
So they added "fixing art" to thing humans do to bring doom to each other I swear we are our own downfall
Thank you for telling me of Zilla. I had no idea that a fight between the horrible 1998 version and the original happened.
I love the comic art pro that snapped off on the art 'fixer' and people kept trying to call the pro a bully.
I initially laughed that you added the butt hole because I thought it was a mistake but no, that was intentional.
Also I originally fell in love with Godzilla because of the 1990s movie and I thought he was cool and I never knew of Godzilla before then. And ever since then I’ve been a huge fan of GZ
That's like a social media friend tags you in a photo and you repost it after saying you fixed their picture....because that's sane
You sure made a very good point,Alteroi and other people who discuss this topic,fairly.
Also I think your background art was awesome ( and your story of drawing thing differently,was quite nice and maybe a little relatable. )( Also I wish you a great and safe day. )
(slow clap) excellently said. I enjoy how you express you ideas, and the content on your channel. keep up the good work. :)
Don’t be giving that primal growl, got me acting up 🤣😂🤣😂
Amanda TSWG made a vid about this...and the original artist flamed the "fix" artist into oblivion...and it was perfection.
It was an absolute Chad move.
*Anna, but yeah that was great
link or where can I find this?
@@thedogman7846 the channel "That Star Wars Girl"
Sending into oblivion? No one even knew who that guy was before, this was an exaggeration.
You have made so many good points that, in order to list them all, this comment would essentially have been a transcript of your whole video. Thank you for making sense and expressing it so well!
ETA: OMG, You go girl! Love your passionate and colorful language because it all needs to be said in just that way that the point gets through! Please don't ever change! Keep speaking the truth!
I feel like when someone wants to “fix” someone art or their expression, it's like, “let me fix your child” yes, all the love, sweat and tears you but into this being, you created-let me tell you how better it can be if I did. Like, what the heck is that logic? Thanks for speaking out about this.
If you REALLY want to STICK IT to these "fixers of other people's art", go find one of THEIR original pieces of art (or even their PROFILE PIC), and "fix it" for THEM! See how THEY "like it" when their OWN creativity and originality is "fixed"! (Make sure to RECORD their immediate reaction to your "fix", and post it online for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!)
theres a feel cases of "Fighting fire with fire", to the point of the "Fixer" accounts being terminated, those are really good
They actually _have_ creativity and originality?
@@kieranh2005
Some do, but not everyone has a style that sells so they end up remaining small...also bad attitudes really turn people off of art. I got decent interactions even when my art sucked, but I always brought good vibes with my work. [except for vent art...but that wasn't often]
This is especially true nowadays when you have to kinda sell yourself with your art on social media...and we all know not everybody has the most pleasent attitude.
yeah no
what'll happen is the fixer will block you, you'd get swarmed with harassment, and then reported
you'll still be the bad guy and said fixer will keep doing it
@@kieranh2005 It's difficult to properly portray sarcasm through text...
There is lines you do not cross as an artist
Do not steal other artist's art claiming it is your own
Do not alter another artist's art
Do not make mocking versions of another artist's art
Yes!!! Thank you. :)
Hey, Alteori I completely agree with what you are saying. Also the fox art you were drawing in the video is actually really, really good. I wish I could draw as well as you.
That "primal growl" sound when one stretches is amazing.
Don't worry, Alteori. We all love Ding Dong. He's a funny guy.
Ding Dong and his sister, Puss Puss, are great people.
Ah yes. My favourite UA-camr, the one who was “obsessed with ding dongs”
specifically animal ding dongs
I got lost and started reading the comments from there
And seccesfully deephroated a horse from both ends. Let's not forget that part xD
'When you catch hands' ...This is my new favorite video of yours.
I like your character. It's a simple idea of a fox shadow but i love how it looks :D
I don't mind getting my art fixed, like actually fixed, not the ones where they make it obese and stuff
Only if you ask for it though
That works for you, but the assholes should still ask before they even try. Its just disrespectful to *fix* other people's hard made work, not only are they taking someone elses work and changing it without asking, they are also essentially saying that the original work is shit. Its shitty behavior.
I'm an artist, if you want me to do it, I can do it, but I will still say that the original is your art and I only redrew it because you asked me.
@@zeldaprincessgirl100 not really no
Yeah like improved perspective and anatomy is alright if asked for or just as constructiv criticism but the "fix" is usually make them black, obese, hairy etc. That is literally changing the entire thing but still say it is the same but better..
Alteori: "Sometimes I'll be in my computer chair...and then I'll arch my back over my chair...."
Me at my standing desk: "Good idea! I haven't arched my back in awhile *(stretches arms and arches back)* GOD! OW! OOO!......Oh...that's the stuff! Damn, I needed that. Thanks for the reminder, Alteori-sama"
Doesn't it feel amazing? 😃
@@Alteori yep
@@Alteori I love when peaple take woke charecters and make them sexy as revenge lmao
You stretch like me! You described one of the ways I stretch perfectly, though I make a different sound. I like you :3
Subscribbled!
Thank SOOOO much for covering this Alti. Being that I respect you, and have been a subscriber for a long time, and I'm glad you think the same way I do. As an artist, I draw exaggerated features on my characters ALL the time. It's almost like people are UNIQUE, and have things called, AN ART STYLE. 🤣 Thanks again.