Yet, "Good Feelings are Power Energies" and that makes a Big Difference in our experience. (All is influenced by our "Thoughts + Feelings X Beliefs"). 🔹Prominence to/ Positivity 1, 4, 7, 10 (Kendra/Cardinal strongest) Exhaulted or in own Sign, and it's position ° relative to its Exhaulted °
Got the report from you last year. I have least prominent venus and was worried. Looking at your interpretation of prominent venus in Einstein's chart, I'm surprised and realise i still need to take your consultation instead of making misinterpretation of my chart myself
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Vic, is it possible to use this technique to evaluate specific areas of a person's life like marriage/relationships? For example, considering the planets influencing 7th house, 7th Lord and Venus and looking at their prominence and dignity.
Very helpful, thanks! I am now studying and reflecting on 'The Radically Deep Fundamentals of Astrology' which is presented in an ultra clear, concise and straightforward way - clear because the print is nice and big for people like me who struggle with eyesight that isn't as good as it used to be!
ahha moment of realisation here seeing a 'good' venus in taurus elevated in the 10th VS a 'bad' saturn in scorpio down in the 4th (everything IS balanced out in life and comes with a price)
atmakaraka is a completely different thing. Atmakaraka may be prominent or not prominent. But I do not use atmakaraka etc. I use parashari astrology, atmakaraka is from jaimini.
Oh! I didn't know that was to a specific branch of astrology. Thanks for informing me! Been watching your videos the last few days and I've been thoroughly enjoying it. Especially for finally learning nakshatras. But your whole channel is definitely a gold mine for me!
Do you calculate the same dignity like Kala does? Honestly spoken, I do not believe that all my plantes are so damaged and low! Otherwise I would live in the gutter.
interesting, i also have venus as least prominent planet (10) but still positive (48%). therefore it becomes very prominent in my life. i will be lacking venus things: feminity, love, partnership, collaboration. indeed i always have a hunger for this. never been in relationships, always was wondering how to beome more womanlike and how to get relationships i really love.
In Western Tropical, the Neo Platonic lineage, or Psychological, the Sun symbolises the teleology, so it has to be the most important. Although the Moon can be the most crucial, or pivotal, day to day. Your model is clearly a, radical, alternative to this.
I would say the moon has more psychological prominence than the sun. the sun projects, but the moon is what takes everything in and tells us what we are comfortable and uncomfortable with. The moon goes very deep into us. I see Vic's angle as more comprehensive. he is talking about the strength or capacity of all planets and measuring them against each other to see which ones are having the most strongest effect, which by their merit is showing what is the most "important" planets for that native when looking at their chart. we can all see the sun as the king of our solar system. we understand the importance because it gives life and light, but no king is king without subjects. a king cannot rule if his laws are not obeyed. To rule, a king must be strong. All kings are not strong, confident or positive and that is also the case with Suns in astrological charts. Astrology like life is not black and white. all the different colors intermingle and make great unique paintings
The Psychological-Humanistic model, which sees the Sun as the symbol of Individuation or Self Actualisation (Liz Greene perhaps the most significant theorist here, others who adopt a more Platonic lens Rick Tarnas, Rob Hand ) sees the other planets as working towards meeting the Sun's goals or teleology. The Moon (the human body) does this by keeping the person alive, thus if you ignore the Moon or the Moon is in ''poor shape'' it can become the primary planet for a period of time. Maslow's tree a good way of thinking about this perspective, to reach levels 3, 4, 5 you have to look after 1, 2 - the Lunar Needs. However, on your death bed a life or chart is judged by how well you actualised your Sun, or were able to within the limitations of circumstances. You could be killed at any stage, get a nasty bacteria infection and so on. Irrespective to your actions! In brief, in a consultation the Astrologer is seeking to use all these other tools, sub-personalites, planets- maximise their strengths, minimise their weaknesses - to enable someone to improve their Sun's performance. If they enter the session a 5/10 Aries, help them get to a 6/10 in a few months. If you follow. For example, an Aries needs to move, be assertive, courageous, initiate, etc if a person has a problematic Mars, these more positive Arian goals may be scuppered. So here the focus in the session is to improve the functions, or abilities, of Mars in the chart. You may end up only speaking about this planet for an hour or three! Or I would. Obviously this account is short, and clumsy. It may be Vic's approach has similar goals and understandings, more common ground than someone reading this might imagine? Although I don't know about his training , background, or has he had any psycho-dynamic training? Which you need, and a lot of, to operationalise this Psychological- Neo Platonic conception.
Interesting. I've heard from a western point of view that the sun is representative of want you want but the moon is representative of what you need. in eastern view the moon is the mind, the embodied soul, memories of all lives (akashic records), the bridge to the body. In Vic's other video he has Venus as the body as it gives us the interactions with the senses. I liked his model of that. The ascendant is the life focus or purpose or main goals and the sun shows the manner of how we would achieve those goals. many charts are used but the most popular ones are the ascendant chart, the moon chart and the Venus chart (9th divisional chart). I'm not aware of a solar chart for individuals although I do not know vedic astrology deeply. All Aries do not have the same goals, there are many facets to every sign. Aries is ruled by Mars which symbolizes energy, but there are many forms of energy including potential energy which is not moving. In African culture there are many names for one planet/God based on the different functions it carries out. You honor each name, each state of that entity. these astrologies have a holistic and comprehensive approach. I do like psychology but the western world does not fully understand the mind and the spiritual world because its science focuses on the things we can see and prove.
also I wanted to add I think in this kind of astrology when they say important or prominent they're talking about the planet that is being shown as the strongest and most active. the planets that are actually actualizing effects. so I think when he goes to read a chart he looks to see which planets are running the show with least restrictions. then from there you get an idea of the person you're dealing with or what that person is actually dealing with. and that changes fundamentally with time and events. Also the birth chart just shows the foundation the person was born with. they may have Sun in Aries in the birth chart but it can be in a different sign in the Life Path Chart (9th Divisional Chart) which becomes active in our adulthood or when we marry from what I've heard. Or around 25-35 years of age. And not to even mention Nakshatras and house Lords and aspects lol. this astrology is very comprehensive. I don't think I would go to a psychological astrologer but I wouldn't mind a therapist that understood astrology... if that makes sense. Nonetheless the things you mentioned I do find delight in hearing and am appreciative of this friendly discussion with you :)
So many approaches, or conceptions, in Astrology-Horoscopy now. You can see 10 different Astrologers and wonder if you are 10 alternative people! As we see with such fundamentally different meanings you ascribe to the Sun/Moon to me. With Psychological Astrology models of the mind used, or ideas, are not those found in academia that often. So not seen, proved or measured hypotheses. Major influence are Assagioli, Hillman, Freud, Jung, Klein. I'm not that familiar with Vedic Ideas. I've not pursued them in much depth as my Sidereal Signs do not resonate with me, whereas the Tropical ones do strongly. Which generated my interest a few decades ago now. Also on the few occasions I've seen Vedic Astrologers attempt to interpret 'blind' charts they have struggled to capture the person whose life it is, both in respect to events and personality/psyche.
From what i remember, when you have the only "one" element assigned to a planet... that is the singleton where all the persons energies funnel through. Hope i explained that correctly. For instance i have a couple fire elements, a steluim in a water element, a coupe earth BUT only one Air so the Air in Aquarius - My moon is in Aquarius so my moon is the singleton. I'm sorry Vic i am not as professional as you but that is good because i am looking for someone better than me - will need a reading sometime.
I love how you use effects in your videos, its subtle and enhances the experience without taking away attention from the "thing" being discussed.
Yet, "Good Feelings are Power Energies" and that makes a Big Difference in our experience. (All is influenced by our "Thoughts + Feelings X Beliefs").
🔹Prominence to/ Positivity
1, 4, 7, 10 (Kendra/Cardinal strongest) Exhaulted or in own Sign, and it's position ° relative to its Exhaulted °
Thank you so much.. Your explanation really helped me understand the interpretation so much better.
Very insightful and precise. Excellente Vic!!
An eyeopener and at the same time an "aha" moment. Thank you 🌼.
Got the report from you last year. I have least prominent venus and was worried. Looking at your interpretation of prominent venus in Einstein's chart, I'm surprised and realise i still need to take your consultation instead of making misinterpretation of my chart myself
Saturn exalted in IV, ruling five other planets...
... please wait ...
... your wellbeing is important to us, please wait...
... thank you for your patience, please wait...
Great video Vic!!!
Thank you VIC FOR THIS VIDEO.
Thanks to you bro
That's it real truth
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I fully enjoy this video
🤯🤯🤯 I want to master these teachings!!!!
Very interesting presentation Vic 👏👏
Vic, is it possible to use this technique to evaluate specific areas of a person's life like marriage/relationships? For example, considering the planets influencing 7th house, 7th Lord and Venus and looking at their prominence and dignity.
sounds good. develop and test it!
Very helpful, thanks! I am now studying and reflecting on 'The Radically Deep Fundamentals of Astrology' which is presented in an ultra clear, concise and straightforward way - clear because the print is nice and big for people like me who struggle with eyesight that isn't as good as it used to be!
Great!
Sun/Saturn Combust - same degree 10th Sagittarius
May I know the birth details of first example in this video (not Trump, Eistein,...), please?
ahha moment of realisation here seeing a 'good' venus in taurus elevated in the 10th VS a 'bad' saturn in scorpio down in the 4th (everything IS balanced out in life and comes with a price)
I assumed maybe the 1/4 (Pada) of whichever Nakshatra our Moon 🌝 is in?? No? Ps Love your vids! You impress me😊
hello Vic! how does this compare if at all to the atmakaraka (apologies if I spelled that wrong).
atmakaraka is a completely different thing. Atmakaraka may be prominent or not prominent. But I do not use atmakaraka etc. I use parashari astrology, atmakaraka is from jaimini.
Oh! I didn't know that was to a specific branch of astrology. Thanks for informing me! Been watching your videos the last few days and I've been thoroughly enjoying it. Especially for finally learning nakshatras. But your whole channel is definitely a gold mine for me!
Thank you
@@VicDiCaraAstrology Is there no atmaksraka in parasara astrology program.
What happen with exlated but combust planet plz make vdo on this.
Combustion affects prominence. Next video
based on this prominence and positivity metric you explained here, i have the worst chart ever. it's pretty depressing, actually
Always great to lisssssssen to You
Thanks for reply. I hv Sun Saturn conjunction in libra but Saturn combust.What happen with big planet like Saturn & Jupiter combust?
How is this graf of Prominance called in Parashara Light so I can add it?
It is not available in Parashara's Light.
Namastd Vic di.🙏
Well I have subscribed to this channel just to ogle at super cute Vic di and listen to his mushy voice on and on and on........
seriously?
VicDiCarasAstrology very true. Your prsence is extremely strong at least for me.
soumya ranjan 😅😛
Namaskar, is that shadbala chart?
Is prominence shadbala? Thanks
no, but shadbala is an important part of it. next week I will explain.
VicDiCarasAstrology thank you for your responsiveness. Also for this informative, lucid series!
Do you calculate the same dignity like Kala does?
Honestly spoken, I do not believe that all my plantes are so damaged and low! Otherwise I would live in the gutter.
Kala has many options
Venus , it’s Venus
interesting, i also have venus as least prominent planet (10) but still positive (48%). therefore it becomes very prominent in my life. i will be lacking venus things: feminity, love, partnership, collaboration. indeed i always have a hunger for this. never been in relationships, always was wondering how to beome more womanlike and how to get relationships i really love.
In Western Tropical, the Neo Platonic lineage, or Psychological, the Sun symbolises the teleology, so it has to be the most important. Although the Moon can be the most crucial, or pivotal, day to day. Your model is clearly a, radical, alternative to this.
I would say the moon has more psychological prominence than the sun. the sun projects, but the moon is what takes everything in and tells us what we are comfortable and uncomfortable with. The moon goes very deep into us. I see Vic's angle as more comprehensive. he is talking about the strength or capacity of all planets and measuring them against each other to see which ones are having the most strongest effect, which by their merit is showing what is the most "important" planets for that native when looking at their chart. we can all see the sun as the king of our solar system. we understand the importance because it gives life and light, but no king is king without subjects. a king cannot rule if his laws are not obeyed. To rule, a king must be strong. All kings are not strong, confident or positive and that is also the case with Suns in astrological charts. Astrology like life is not black and white. all the different colors intermingle and make great unique paintings
The Psychological-Humanistic model, which sees the Sun as the symbol of Individuation or Self Actualisation (Liz Greene perhaps the most significant theorist here, others who adopt a more Platonic lens Rick Tarnas, Rob Hand ) sees the other planets as working towards meeting the Sun's goals or teleology. The Moon (the human body) does this by keeping the person alive, thus if you ignore the Moon or the Moon is in ''poor shape'' it can become the primary planet for a period of time. Maslow's tree a good way of thinking about this perspective, to reach levels 3, 4, 5 you have to look after 1, 2 - the Lunar Needs. However, on your death bed a life or chart is judged by how well you actualised your Sun, or were able to within the limitations of circumstances. You could be killed at any stage, get a nasty bacteria infection and so on. Irrespective to your actions! In brief, in a consultation the Astrologer is seeking to use all these other tools, sub-personalites, planets- maximise their strengths, minimise their weaknesses - to enable someone to improve their Sun's performance. If they enter the session a 5/10 Aries, help them get to a 6/10 in a few months. If you follow. For example, an Aries needs to move, be assertive, courageous, initiate, etc if a person has a problematic Mars, these more positive Arian goals may be scuppered. So here the focus in the session is to improve the functions, or abilities, of Mars in the chart. You may end up only speaking about this planet for an hour or three! Or I would. Obviously this account is short, and clumsy. It may be Vic's approach has similar goals and understandings, more common ground than someone reading this might imagine? Although I don't know about his training , background, or has he had any psycho-dynamic training? Which you need, and a lot of, to operationalise this Psychological- Neo Platonic conception.
Interesting. I've heard from a western point of view that the sun is representative of want you want but the moon is representative of what you need. in eastern view the moon is the mind, the embodied soul, memories of all lives (akashic records), the bridge to the body. In Vic's other video he has Venus as the body as it gives us the interactions with the senses. I liked his model of that. The ascendant is the life focus or purpose or main goals and the sun shows the manner of how we would achieve those goals. many charts are used but the most popular ones are the ascendant chart, the moon chart and the Venus chart (9th divisional chart). I'm not aware of a solar chart for individuals although I do not know vedic astrology deeply. All Aries do not have the same goals, there are many facets to every sign. Aries is ruled by Mars which symbolizes energy, but there are many forms of energy including potential energy which is not moving. In African culture there are many names for one planet/God based on the different functions it carries out. You honor each name, each state of that entity. these astrologies have a holistic and comprehensive approach. I do like psychology but the western world does not fully understand the mind and the spiritual world because its science focuses on the things we can see and prove.
also I wanted to add I think in this kind of astrology when they say important or prominent they're talking about the planet that is being shown as the strongest and most active. the planets that are actually actualizing effects. so I think when he goes to read a chart he looks to see which planets are running the show with least restrictions. then from there you get an idea of the person you're dealing with or what that person is actually dealing with. and that changes fundamentally with time and events. Also the birth chart just shows the foundation the person was born with. they may have Sun in Aries in the birth chart but it can be in a different sign in the Life Path Chart (9th Divisional Chart) which becomes active in our adulthood or when we marry from what I've heard. Or around 25-35 years of age. And not to even mention Nakshatras and house Lords and aspects lol. this astrology is very comprehensive. I don't think I would go to a psychological astrologer but I wouldn't mind a therapist that understood astrology... if that makes sense. Nonetheless the things you mentioned I do find delight in hearing and am appreciative of this friendly discussion with you :)
So many approaches, or conceptions, in Astrology-Horoscopy now. You can see 10 different Astrologers and wonder if you are 10 alternative people! As we see with such fundamentally different meanings you ascribe to the Sun/Moon to me. With Psychological Astrology models of the mind used, or ideas, are not those found in academia that often. So not seen, proved or measured hypotheses. Major influence are Assagioli, Hillman, Freud, Jung, Klein. I'm not that familiar with Vedic Ideas. I've not pursued them in much depth as my Sidereal Signs do not resonate with me, whereas the Tropical ones do strongly. Which generated my interest a few decades ago now. Also on the few occasions I've seen Vedic Astrologers attempt to interpret 'blind' charts they have struggled to capture the person whose life it is, both in respect to events and personality/psyche.
My Venus in Aries too 😢
In Western Astrology we have a singleton in the chart; this may be what you are speaking of too.
? singleton ?
From what i remember, when you have the only "one" element assigned to a planet... that is the singleton where all the persons energies funnel through. Hope i explained that correctly. For instance i have a couple fire elements, a steluim in a water element, a coupe earth BUT only one Air so the Air in Aquarius - My moon is in Aquarius so my moon is the singleton. I'm sorry Vic i am not as professional as you but that is good because i am looking for someone better than me - will need a reading sometime.
That is an interesting concept. Thank you for explaining it.
i had trouble trying to convey it and i don't know why - maybe my own mental block or something. have a nice day !
I think this article explains the singleton concept pretty well. Take a look. astrologyclub.org/jupiter-singleton/
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the reddish flash every few minutes is very annoying