Turn Salt Water Into FRESH! (Solar Cooled Desalinator)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2019
- How to turn salt water/seawater into fresh distilled drinking water in the event of an emergency with this compact, solar desalinator that's light weight and can fit inside a backpack. Never be without fresh drinking water! You can also use this to make questionable fresh water from lakes, rivers, or streams, drinkable. Enjoy the video!
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Nice clean build! I think next desalinator I make the goal will be full solar operation. Either by a panel powered heat source, or maybe a vacuum solar tube. The latter would be more fun to play with, but fragile for real world use. Thanks for the great follow up. I've added this video to my video response playlist
Photo-electric panel heat source would require a very big panel in the order of m^2. Maybe you mean a panel that heats water in copper pipes.
I saw a small camping gas heater with a peltier unit on it one time that you could use to charge your mobile phone etc. I don't know if it would power a cooling fan though. Just a thought in case you hadn't thought of it.
Vacuum solar tube would be fun to see. Good luck.
Thanks Ben! I knew you'd like it. Your video made this one happen. If you try heating the bottle with a 12v cooktop burner, or induction heater, you'd need a few 100w solar panels. You need Grant's solar concentrator on the bottle. :-)
I saw your video and instantly knew it was a great idea. I think it provides a solution for a lot of people in countries that lack potable water. I hope your idea spreads.
Good build but not very survival good but well done. Survival is what can you find and do this in a emergency
@@done1213 Where do you plan on finding copper tubing in an emergency? Thanks for watching
Amazing build! This video deserves 10 million views! I need to build one of these ASAP! Always a thumbs up and looking forward to seeing your next video.
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LOL time to make some Moonshine. 👍👍
grow a crop of corn and make some moonshine 😋
Absolutely amazing. I am trying to build a survival still that is lightweight and portable. This video gives me a lot of ideas for that.
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That is so badass! I'm going to make one. You Sir, are Amazing. Thank you for posting.
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Nice! I want to build one of these now.
Not too hard to make, and they work very well. Thanks for watching! Please share
That was a great idea my friend.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really nice Job! I was totally impressed with the whole build!
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Nice build!! It would be very nice if you could make some more modifies:
1. use waste biomass as major/only heat source
2. use waste heat to power fan/cooling
3. wider open of salt water container for easy cleaning after several uses
4. longer copper tube or connecting copper tube to a heat sink for better cooling
5. use salt water for cooling before they go in to the cooker, achieving double purpose(save energy by preheating salt water and cooling fresh water at the same time)
6. achieving above goals and also making the system only need salt water and waste biomass refueling(after the fire started)
Good job so far!!
neat concept, I was considering a similar project using a Pelltier Module, heat side warming the salt water and the cold side cooling the tubing perhaps.
Seems to be a very efficient design, I imagine you could increase it a fair bit with double the amount of copper and a bigger 120mm fan. Will google to see if someone has already done this, Really well presented video :)
Great video. I made one using a tin can rocket stove and a solar pump circulating cool sea water. Not for a backpack but very portable.
Glad you enjoyed it Larry!
Very nice build! I imagine some kind of fan/wind turbine to power the cooling fan on cloudy windy days?
Brilliant!😊👍....
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Just one point the specific heat capacity water is 4200 joules per kilogram whereas the specific heat capacity of air is 1000 joules per kilogram. So if the copper tube will heat up the water in the intermediate container within 1 minute, in your setup the air will heat up to the same temperature within 15 seconds but since the air is recirculating from your room to the container you made a genuine improvement
See i knew it wasn't that hard.
Thanks 4 the video.
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@@electronicsNmore done!🤜🤛
Awesome project. One suggestion is to blow air from bottom to top since hot air is lighter it will be more efficient.
Heat rises, so pulling cool air in from the bottom is best. Thanks for watching!
Brilliant. I saw that video by NightHawkInLight and tried to think of ways to improve it. I hope he saw your version. It was excellent. I can see the idea spreading, it would solve a bunch of problems. The steam would destroy any pathogens inside the copper coil. Now I want to build one.
He watched the video. :-) Yes, the steam won't leave anything alive. Thanks for watching!
electronicsNmore I am wondering if it would have any effect on chemicals, pesticides, etc.?
That’s really cool
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Good ideals. If you have problems with that fan getting heat then put the fan at the bottom and have it blow across the coils instead of suck past them. So the heat will still be coming out the top as it naturally wants to anyway.
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I love the design. I was wondering if you could use a low wattage water pump and a peltier on the solar panel to keep the water cool and circulating in a smallish (still portable) tank. Thoughts??
Peltiers are energy hogs. Outside of submerging the coil in cool water that's always changing, I'd stay with the fan. Thanks for watching!
Love the show, great information. That said can you work on getting your audio cleaner for us old guys. 🥺
Glad you enjoyed it. Actually, the audio was good, the room was the problem. It caused that echo.
electronicsNmore / will that’s for getting back to me. The sound was indeed echoing a lot. Have bad hearing only makes it worse. CC only gets added after a few days or never. So is it possible to electronically remove the echo?
You could use small peltier in order to keep water cool. Also , you can power the peltier with solar panel
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Great job. Just a quick tip. In order to keep the water temp(cooling coil) down or significantly cool, you have 2 options. 1 (peletier heating/cooling module)would be a bit more taskfull yet convinient in a solar operation, you could put the cold side of the peletier against part of the coil. It uses 12v 60watts so you could hook a solar panel and it could cool the copper down. The other and easir solution also has a draw back. You could use a pump to circilate the cooling water, the pump would be in an underground cistern, underground temps always remain at 50f even during the winter. The draw back would be that it would affect the setup. Just some pointers being that im into gadgets and diy myself..
"underground temps always remain at 50f even during the winter" really?
Well done. I would like some comercial version of it, like the bootle water filters that exist.
I may work on something in the future. Thanks for watching!
great video
Thanks Jake!
Possibly a gravity slow drip water system above the coil for a cheap coolant system? Could maybe cool like a radiator. Nice build.
A taller pot with the coil up higher.
That way the slow circulation of water can be fed into the pot.
A loop of the same tubing the coil is made from, going from the container holding the coil to the pot, with a needle valve at the pot. This should provide enough back pressure to prevent the water vapor from escaping into the salt water.
The saltwater first cools the coil, which preheats it, before it gets distilled... A continuous distillation, as opposed to batch distillation.
Now, if we swap out the tall skinny bottle with something that has much more surface area... Like a flat coil of tubing the same diameter as the condenser coil is made from... and add several T fittings... The tubes from the T fittings can feed upward into a single manifold made of a 1 1/2" X 12" long copper tube that is vertically oriented, with both ends capped... The condenser coil attaches to the top cap of the manifold, the ends of the heating coil and the needle valve attach to the bottom cap, and the tubes from the numerous T fittings attach to the sides near the bottom.
Now, if only we had a way to heat this thing without fire... something like a coil of copper tube, that had been painted black, placed inside of an insulated box, with a glass top... Some sort of solar water heater, perhaps?
Spot Frensel lens could heat either surface depending on size requirements by adjusting the focal point to the temp required.
Nice one! Sorry if I missed this in the video, but can you let me know how much of a difference in performance the air cooling actually brings to the table?
Amazing video. Very clear and useful. Just a thought might your water yield increase if you used the natural dome of the screw on lid of the steel bottle. Like the collector cap on an old moonshine still. Reference Foxfire book series from the 1970's.
5:12 is that diode really needed ?
because when pv cell are used as power source it is in forword bise (!!) but when it is connected to battery without generating any power it's in reverse bise . so there should'nt flow any backword current .
The best thing to do would be to put the coil into the water where it’s being sourced from and cool it continuously that way. So if you’re on a boat just submerge the coil in the water. Unless the coil has to be above the 2 containers I think that would be the best option
Can you please do a how to video of all the parts and materials you used and exactly how you made this awsome device.
Solar powered moonshine... I mean desalination unit works great.
Be sure to share. Thanks!
Also a thermo-electric elements for the heating & cooling. As well as ultraviolet light to kill off bacteria in salt water in the pumping phase. Transformer would be used to power the pumping of seawater into bottle collector.
Is all that possible?
Can you drink that desalinated water at the levels it is coming out, or do you need to run it through again.
That's a really neat build. But it's hard to improve on the efficiency of regular old solar thermal, since the efficiency of that solar panel is probably less than about 15%, and then you lose heat in the electrical process.
You can get higher efficiency panels(21-23%) Thanks for watching!
Hey Doug. Great Ideal !!. My Dad was making Moonshine back in the 40's with his brother. I have watched him make it on a stove top using a pressure canner. It was smooth and kicked like a mule Lol Has always I Liked,Shared,Added to playlist. All my best.
Glad you liked it Bobby! Thanks for all you do.
Having a large but light flexible bucket of cool salt (or dirty water) on standby to replace the cool salt water which condenses the steam might be lighter and less reliable on technology than the electronics in this set up? But setting up the boiling bottle to be used with other fuels was a great improvement, as someone with a resilience/survival view I prefer the cold water condensation method that inspired this setup as all the parts are multifunctional for other uses and less likely to fail. Using a food safe metal bottle as a boiling bottle (which also works as a normal water bottle) another bottle for the fresh water (second 1 liter bottle) a metal condensing pot (bush pot) for holding the condensing coil and cool water (also used for cooking of course) and a flexible bucket (functions for washing face or doing dishes etc) to replace coil pot with new cool water, means only the copper coil is extra weight and even then it’s wraps around a bottle so it’s very low volume, I prefer your stove setup though as it’s easier to set it up without needing to hang a bottle or have to have a smokey fire when other fuels are more suitable, in fact during many countries summers open fires are illegal
Very good. I'll be attempting this.
Would dirty freshwater, or brackish tannin type water, used in this machine still produce clean water. I ask because it would be great if it filters all types of waters.
Glad you enjoyed it! Distillation will remove bacteria, viruses, cysts, heavy metals, radionuclides, organics, inorganics, and particulates. "Some" chemicals can pass through.
Could you make a video on how you put everything together?
Not enough demand/views.
Would like to see a circuit that would use rechargeable batteries and that the solar panel would recharge. Very nice build and video instructions.
In order to do that, the panel would have to be much larger. I was trying to keep it small in size. Thanks for watching! Be sure to share.
Acoustic cooling using a standing wave to cause compressing, heat transfers at compression peaks. I wonder if this would increase efficiency
I noticed how it sputters, if you want a more even flow, make sure your coil at all points goes down. If anywhere on the coil is at an incline, condensed water collects and causes the sputter. That can create pressure in the tank you're heating *and if that's not water, you can have an explosion.*
Sputtering is normal. Liquid builds inside the tube, then it's forced out by steam. No explosion risk, the tube end is wide open.
@@electronicsNmore If you read my last sentence, I'm warning people who aren't distilling water. Just in case someone wants to use your design to make a miniature still. Oh, and it might just be more efficient if it doesn't sputter anyway.
Nice build, I love seeing ... re-invention using personal modification. How much water will a container of Sterno produce?
The sterno only lasts 2 1/2 hrs.
hi, I have a question, it is possible to make an easy homemade distiller with 12V solar power to boil water? What size should have the elements?
1,5- 2Liters bottles would be perfect. And for a better cooling effect z can use the cold of groud.
1:37 but...
you can lower the coil in water tank so heated water will rise up by convection , going further you can also attach secondery big cointainer filled with water similer to oil cooled transformer so that hot and cooled water will loop and lose heat .
I have an invention that takes 95% of water out of the steam. Using a metal box with aluminium panels inside about 1cm of each other with a small steam in let cousing the steam to stay inside the box more longer. And a fan to cool the outside the box, its aluminium so it gets very cold. And I suck the air threw the box not push. For cooler air use a funnel in the air inlet slightly smaller than the fan diamiter
Could a bell syphon be incorporated to reduce the amount of water that needs to be heated, speeding up the production ?
I know 15 mins isn't long, but that's extra fuel used and time wasted.
Thanks for your efforts and sharing 👍🇬🇧
I think I am gonna have to try this and fill the coil chamber with cooking oil and antifreeze. Would like to try cooling it with several different liquids. Vegetable glycol maybe.
Underground resivour pump would keep the cooling chamber cold
You might want to change the fan to a 5 volt fan with a USB connection so it can power by any USB power source..Including a rechargeable solar power bank. And with the air cool method..maybe consider a type of water aspiration over the coil to aid with extracting heat.
Great experimento Amigo...!!!!..but you still use alot of energy to produce water. Try to improve the performance of your system by reducing energy. For example by increasing the bottle pressure so you can use minimum heat energy to reach to boiling water temperature. And if you can improve the system to operate on solar only to produce water that will be the gift to the million of people on earth....God bless you. Wishing you success..
Next step up could be a copper radiator.. Why bother with the tube BTW? Wouldn't it make sense to give the pipe as much air as possible? Good continuation of his project. YT algos brought me here after watching his! I'm your new fan:) He was the first to teach me about gasification with two paint cans. Changed my whole scope on free energy and HHO.
The tube ensures that all air is pulled over the coils. NHIL has great videos. Thanks for watching!
Instead of batteries, can a step up induction transformer be used?
i watched this video the other day, and today an idea occured to me: why not use water to cool the condenser coil, but with a few twists. twist 1 is using a peltier modual to cool the water. twist 1 is to have the water circulated through he cooling unit to the boiling chamber. twist 3 is to have that circulation system drawn from an external source, say a 5 gallon bucket full of seawater so that the cooling system will not get to hot and a continuous flow can be kept doing.
Peltier modules require too much current, no good. Water moving through the coil would work, but then you have the problem of being too low in height to allow condensation to drip into a cup.
If you use an aluminium alloy coil tubing with the fan instead of copper coil tubing you can get way more condensed water as copper absorbs heat quickly and hold it but aluminium alloy allows it to dissipate creating quick and intense condensation
good idea. my concern there, though minor is, aluminum in contact with my drinking water. how about an aluminum finned copper coil?
Thanks for the video. Can you make a video of how to put it together?
Glad you liked it Joe. I thought far more people would've watched the video(based on the other videos I saw on YT), and they didn't. I just started cutting way back on videos due to a lack of exposure(views). I spend many hours filming/editing, and many of my videos end up a big waste of time. YT is a full time job for me. I usually make a 2nd video when the first does very well. If you have any questions when trying to make one, just ask. Thanks
2.8k views how many you need🤣👍 great build
Nice build.These should be scaled up, built on the coast of countries with poor rainfall...then the water should be pumped to affected areas..An industrial scale, solar powered desert reclamation project, which could turn large swathes of desert and arboreal landscape, into food bearing farms and orchards, would pay for themselves over time and eliminate famine.
That was amazing!I loved the machine,is really useful for suvival etc...You should be a mechanic teacher your creations are just incredible.i'd like you to make more videos similar like this one(I mean for survival)I actually have no words for this creation because it was amazing!Continue like that.
Pressure relief? Or is the steam releasing through the copper enough to stop pressure building up?
the latter is correct. so long as nothing blocks the outlet, which "shouldn't" happen if you clean the still pot frequently, then it shouldn't develop dangerous amounts of pressure. however, the plug he put into the plastic cap could easily be converted into an over pressure relief valve.
Instead of just forced air, would a mister increase cooling efficiency? If so, by how much?
It is a nice additional to a yacht, it will also be nice if the flame is also solar power using Nichrome wire plus a peltier moudle cooling fan to cool the coil. It will also be wind proofed... It will also be a nice addition if it can recycle the water you used on a yacht including waste management. Decomposting human waste and urine to turn into water...
Peltiers and resistive wires use too much power.
Great build - didn't you forget to press tare after you added the salt and before you added the water ? No matter really would just have been saltier than sea water. Also I guess as you want the tubing as cool as possible it would be good to shade the coil part with a screen or something on a hot sunny day... :-)
No, it was done correctly.
Can it be used for just simple creek water? As it is easiest to worm in a body of running water. As well surely most water I wish to distill is water from a body of water hopefully running but not too fast I am thirsty and do not wish to run far.
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Salt water can be used to make electricity too, including that should add some points to efficiency 💪
No one ever demonstrates with real sea water. I have a setup like this in India with the water cooling system. But with sea water the system gets corroded very soon as sea water contains all kinds of other dusts and dirt. I like the other build where the coil starts from the lid as it is easy to replace the bottle. It gets corroded sooner.
And don’t fill more than half else the copper gets corroded as well and it’s very difficult to clean
very ingenious design! I have two areas of interest I'd like to point out. first, I would be interested in the temperature of the air exiting the cylinder, because it might be lowering the efficiency of the solar panel if it is too high. Doesn't take much heat to do that, just curious. Secondly, again, your design is great but there is one area that could double the cooling efficiency of the coil, i.e. if you doubled the coil, one continuous spiral, but a spiral within a spiral, would in effect, double the cooling capacity with no adverse effects on operation, I imagine you already thought of that... A tiny bit more refining, and I could see you marketing this idea! 👍 P.S. just thought too, that it would be easy enough to lengthen the solar panel wire, then you could set it in any ideal location....
The air flowing out the top is only warm, the solar panel is far hotter. Thanks for watching!
Cool 😎
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cool seeup ;) I like the picture on the metal bottle :) BTW why the fan is upside down? 6:53
The fan was positioned the way it was to take cooler air from the bottom and blow it out the top. Heat rises. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore yes, but I think that if you flip the fan the cooling will improve, just like CPU coolers , they are blowing at the radiators directly, not sucking the air from them :)
@@intel386DX It's different. The CPU doesn't have a huge open area under it.
@@electronicsNmore if you put your hand on the sucking side you well feel near nothing, but if you put it on the blowing one you will defensively feel the cold air :)
Came here from Night Hawk. I have to laud you for this video, not enough work is being done to deal with desalination. In a beach setting, fanning the copper tube manually wouldn't be too difficult; the problem comes from the source of heat. While coconut husks are oftentimes an available source of fuel, I've been thinking about using a fresnel lens connected to a heliostat. Do you reckon such an approach would work?
I think those devices are a pain in the rear. You need to track the sun, line everything up.....no good. Thanks for watching!
also, I think most people think of desalination as an ocean/beach situation. however, I would submit that it would be useful in situations where water quality and availability are questionable.
Hmm I question how much the fan really does, Maybe add some cloth strips attached to coil. And water below, Paired with the fan as an evaporative cooler.
The level of heat inside the copper coils is very high. The fan is the best method if you don't have a constantly changing source of water around the coils.
Can you built another source of heat for boiling the salt water like. Heater connect to a solar if possible.
I'm thinking about that. :-)
Must have been colder outside to get more difference and better performance?
Have you tried Peltiers and fan off your solar panel?
Peltiers are highly inefficient energy hogs.
Fantastic job!!!!
Thanks Brock! Please share with friends, otherwise videos like this end up a big waste of my time.
Dispense with the solar panel and fan, simply use extra raw input water in an open top container with your condenser in it, far more efficient, less parts
Can you add a peltier to help with cooling?
No, they require too much current.
In the next build:
How to build a nasa computer with a clip
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LOL, A one shot Ethanol Pleasure Machine. Regulates your consumption utilizing the slow process. Actually it would be too hot for that. Would need to keep the tempts down to oh say 170-176F . Just add Fermented Juice.
Have you tried to improve the output by evaporative cooling techniques? Have a pump that bubbles up air through the water and keep the humidity as low as possible by letting the vapor dissipate. You can reach freezing tempuratures with enough evaporative cooling!
You mean a swamp cooler? :-) No. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore Check out Tech Ingredients youtube channel. They built an advanced swamp cooler that had a calcium chloride desiccant stage to dry the air followed by a heat exchanger to remove the heat from the air as much as possible prior to cooling it with a final swap cooler stage. Pretty amazing, I am planning to build one but scaled up some!
I wanted to keep it simple and portable. It works very well, and gets the job done.
@Drakilicious Yes, that's the only change I'd make. :-)
what becomes of the salt? doesn't it build up inside the boiling vessel over time? not throwing shade brother, fantastic device!
Hi Chris. Good question. The salt will remain as a residue inside the tank. You just need to rinse it out. Thanks for watching!
Nice video bro, what is the item name under the purple bottom?
The metal strips bonded to the underside of the solar panel?
@@electronicsNmore the "smart can" one, 3:09
*purple bottle
If you have ice available (I figure if your using this to desalinate, you probably don't, however) place in the clear container. I would believe it would act like air condition?...I guess it's more an idea for micro distilling.
can you provide details about heater
Actually, the TDS is much higher than that for the salt water if it’s like seawater, because the meter can’t read so high.
You're absolutely correct, but it will still work the same. Thanks for watching!
The title suggests the setup is solar powered but it's only powering the fan. I wonder if the liquid fuel can be replaced by solar panels and with how much power in total. That would be a great system.
Yes. The solar panel is used to cool the condenser. Using the sun to heat the water wouldn't be good. You'd need a solar tracker.
It wouldn't hurt to put the collector in a can of cold water . That way, you would condense a larger amount of steam from the contraption without necessarily having to change the water in the can over the time of distillation.
Waste of time doing that. The water stays cool for about 30 secs
Can u do that with no gass?
Is thst distillation process?
Heating up the solar panel, might decrease power output. Blow the air in or blow it to the side.
It works perfectly. I did a lot of testing before the video was made. Thanks for watching!
Lods How about a heather from soldering iron.
How it costs if it is used for a household
is it better to use copper?
Yes, copper is better.
We should have used this in WW2
Edit: thanks for the heart dude
No heart no more lol
I learned the hard way that if you edit, you lose the heart
@@junegem1978 ouch xD
Why wouldn't the precipitous salt clog up the system, preventing further production of steam?
It stays inside the bottle.
Salt is heavier than water vapour and steam so like he said... ot stays in the bottle. As a more concentrated salt water.
I'm doing this for my science project : Said it first ! dont copy me!
Great to hear. Hope it works well for you!
The fan to blow the hot air from the condenser under the already heated by the sun panel is not approx. Why the fan is not blowing in the other direction / down /
Heat rises. Cool air gets draw into the bottom of the tube to cool.