Until you wake up in HELL like him!!! ======== An Atheist is his or her own god!!! Atheists worship their opinions as gods! See Psalm 2. God is never mocked! KING JESUS of Psalms 2 and 72 and Isaiah 2 is NOW Standing UP, and about 3 to 4 billion garbage people are about to be FLUSHED out of This WORLD!!! >>>The Sin of The so-called Christians all over The World and for donkey years simply tied God's HANDS to act on behalf of the impostors who have all their feet in Satan and their lip-service in God. (Matthew 7:21). BUT by GRACE Alone, see HIS BLESSING Upon Me! This is WHAT's About To Happen! Millions of so-called Pastors or Ministers will be among the Dead. ENOUGH Is ENOUGH!!! ===================== >>>Worldwide Reign of Christianity is Here! Psalm72 KING JESUS is here. It will happen through HIS Incarnate. HE will implement The HEART Of GOD in Isaiah 2, 11, 49, 59, 65; Jeremiah 1:10; Zephaniah 2:11; Ezekiel 36-37 for Me; Psalms 2 and 72, Haggai to Zechariah 6; etc. At the early months of this period, MILLIONS of wicked people shall die and all systems (political establishments, religions of force and murder, etc) that hinder people from fleeing to JESUS shall be removed. Almost All Muslims shall flee to JESUS during this time. Meditate on the cited scriptures, especially Isaiah 2. >>This 794-year period of Psalm72 KING JESUS is a Gift to Me from DADDYGOD. Almost all Israelis now shall flee to JESUS (Become serious Christians); GREAT JESUS TEMPLE [Apostolic Christian Church Building] shall be erected at The original position of The Solomon's Temple. There will be Jesus-measure peace around The World. [Unfortunately after this time, the 🌎World shall become very decadent again, leading to The Revealing of AntiChrist and The Rest of The Book Of Revelation]. BUT For Now, The ONE-TRUE GOD is NOW STANDING Up!!! The SHOW is On!!! It's Mount-Carmel ShowDOWN at Millions of MT-Carmels in This MY 🌎WORLD! It's Mount-JESUS ⛪ CHURCH EXTRAVAGANZA! It's JesuCRACY Imperative!!! Hallelujah!
Hitchens was a genius. I regret that I found out about him after he had died. But I feel very lucky that there are so many GREAT video clips of him like this one to watch, listen and learn.
***** you are of course free to believe what you want. I would never say otherwise. Regarding reason, there is not much of the sort in any religion. Religion caters to emotions and not the intellect. Religion is used to keep people connected in groups. First very tribal and later in empires like the Roman that used christianity and later the Arab that used Islam. No news I that. The reason the bible is silent about anything and everything related to nature is, that the men who wrote the bible didn't know. When job asks god why and how all the dumb answer he gets is "where were you when I made the crocodile" etc. When they do try to depict nature they get it all wrong. The bible and the quran. Then the defence of this bronze age bs is of course to call it poetry and old wisdom. It is neither. You want to compare it to art? Fine. Just don't bring it into the public sphere and certainly not into politics. When you have numbscull republican congressmen denying climate change based on gods promise in the bible, we have a serious problem. If it was a small country the world could handle it, but this utter stupidity comes from the world's superpower and highest energy user in the world. When ignorant religious zealots can play dice with the world's future it is scary.
***** to treat religion and their books as philosophy like it almost seem you do is fine. 😊 You are right the bible is not a science book but say that to your radical co-believers. Using the "not able" to understand argument regarding the bible doesn't told up. At least not in my case. As a former christian I have read the entire bible twice and many many passages many more more times. Have you read the entire bible? All of OT? This god cannot wipe his own ass that is how stupid he is. NT I can give the same judgement. If you want to stay a christian don't read the bible. And then again, how do you know you are a christian? Well your parents probably brought you up that way. And in your particular branch of christianity. Religion poisons everything. But you sound like a reasonable and intelligent guy.
***** a relationship with a god that only exist in your head. That is a relationship with yourself. Your god is you. But you believe what you want, just don't bring it into the public sphere and not into politics. You read the bible and not the quran because you were prepped by your surroundings and upbringing and culture. Religion is just a matter of randomness.
His reason is that no argument has convinced him. That's a good reason for him to remain unconvinced. God speaks to me, so I know God exists. I won't convince Christopher he is wrong, and he won't convince me I am wrong.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . It has been noted that it is your OPINION that atheism is a religion. Technically speaking, atheism is a LACK of belief in a particular deity or deities. I do not believe in Santa Clause, therefore I'm an atheist regarding dear Santa. This labeling of atheists as religious by theists of late is simply a tactic to go on the offensive with regards to religion. It signifies a deep LACK of faith in the deluded religious person. A way to deflect self doubt and to try to blunt pointed criticism. Finally, it is a weak attempt to get the nonbeliever to doubt non belief . Non belief is NOT a close minded belief system without experience. It IS an open minded belief system without experience .
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . Some, probably more then half, nonbelievers ARE warriors for truth ! NO theists can make the same claim simply because they chose to adopt a belief system without ANY evidence to show as empirical proof. Faith is worthless and its ALL the theist has ! The theist has and will always have NOTHING ! To this day, no religion on planet Earth has ANY empirical scientific evidence to show that can be HONESTLY corroborated ! And of course, I truly wish it were otherwise, because I think heaven sounds pretty nice. I actually wouldn't mind spending eternity there. Too bad it doesn't exist ! Wishing it doesn't make it so . Now, why did YOU come to Earth ?
***** Isn't it remarkable that anytime science says, "We don't know... yet"., you folks of faith are in an absolute panic to insert your personal god. So, you don't find the science satisfying, or complete enough. Neither do scientists - that's why they keep researching. So how do you get to fill in the blanks with Allah? Why not Zeus? Why not Thor? Or Athena, or Neptune? Every one of you "faithful" (i.e. gullible) have to completely deny all of the other gods (and versions of gods) to feel good about the universe and your place in it, and has to exist in a rapidly shrinking area of scientific gaps - with each tested scientific bit of knowledge making your god smaller and smaller and smaller. How sad.
***** your first sentence is an incorrect assumption, I think. I've never heard an atheist, nor a scientist who has studied the big bang theory, say that matter is eternal and timeless. any decent scientist will say that no one knows what happened before the big bang or a few fractions of a second after it. as hitchens says in this video, atheists are always ready to admit what they don't know and that they are unnerved by religious people like you who say that they do know. I, as an atheist, know that the big bang theory is the best explanation for the origin of the universe but that it's also incomplete. perhaps it will always be incomplete, but there's a good chance it won't be. science has made a great deal of progress in revealing not only our origins as a species but the origin of our universe. it also continues to develop new technologies and medicine and so many inventions that keep improving our capabilities as a species. you may know that humans have actually set foot on the moon, and that they didn't use a holy text to develop the technology necessary to bring them there and bring them back. in this regard, and in regards to understanding the origin of the universe, all holy texts are utterly useless and I challenge you to point out something in your quran that might help us to save the earth from climate change, colonize mars, find an alien lifeform or travel to another solar system. I wager that science and science alone will accomplish these things, or nothing will
Love God so your argument here (or the argument of the author you're copy-pasting) is that an event can't happen unless some other event makes it happen, and therefore that event must have had a cause, etc into infinity - this is a presumption the author puts forward, and let's roll with it even though it's an unproven presumption as far as I can tell. The author says that if there's an infinite chain of events, then something must have caused the Big Bang. What was it? Nobody knows, but the author says that an infinite chain of events cannot exist and has to have an ultimate beginning. Why should I agree with this? Because it can't "put on the garment of being"? Does that really mean anything or are these just flashy words that I should accept as a hand wave? Either I'm having a hard time breaking down this terminology and this is just opaque to me or this is as logically flawed as it appears to be. I honestly can't tell the difference
I would never want to be on stage arguing against a team of Hitchens, Dennett and Harris... all my arguments would be invalid even if I agreed haha lol
***** Did you reply to TheBeastIncarnate ? If so, than your reply is totally out of context. This isn't about how "the world could be resolved". This is about the question:"Are religions made up crap?" And they evidently are.
Rylan Joran Indeed my reply was directed at TheBeastlncarnate. TheBeastlncarnate said, as you will well know, that those whom oppose religion are right whilst those whom believe in religion are wrong. If my assertion that I made to TheBeast... is out of context ( and I don`t admit it is ), then his assertion is equally out of context. Of course religions are made up ! What kind of fool do you take me for ? As one that does not realize religions are made up ? But that which is made up is not ergo crap. Ie, it doesn`t follow. Eg, Common Law is made up. Does this mean that Common Law is therefore crap ? Beware of deeming Common Law crap. You are way out of your depth.But say on...
***** I didn't derive the "crap" from the "made up". I said it is made up crap. And yes I do think lending made up crap any merit means to be wrong. As lending merit to any sort of crap means to be wrong.
I like it when he does this in debates. A god decides to send his son to Palestine for a human sacrifice as that will teach us, absolute nonsense, I'm so glad I dont know anyone personally that believes that shite! I couldnt take them seriously at all. Hitchens was on another level!
No miracles, just random shit that happens. No ghosts, demons, etc. just evil "religious" people doing harm to humanity. No help from above, or trouble from below, just humans, greed, hate, and corruption. All we need is love!
He had such a direct way of explaining the Words of Wisdom that even a delusional person should be able to understand. But unfortunately most faith believers don't even care to think about the logical points he made
@@johndonahue3162 . I know more then enough Christians, thank you. Is it not Christians, Jews and Muslims who boastfully proclaim that mere primates are made in the very image of a deity ? Let us also remember that those despots that you listed, who technically were not all atheists, never killed one person IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM . Now, a quote from one of our apostles, Sam Harris . "The true horror of religion is it allows seemingly sane and intelligent people to believe by the billions what only lunatics or imbeciles could believe on their own." That is not a personal hit ! Merely illustrating what 'group-think' can and has accomplished . Yes, religion can and has done 'good works' ! That is not in question. But it can and has been a force for evil. Thanks for the blessings . And may Christopher Hitchens smile upon you ! 😎
@@johndonahue3162 . I guess it takes a TRUE Christian to know what TRUE Christianity is, right ? WAIT, WHAT ? Regarding prophecies . I think we all can agree that compared to the ancient Chinese at that time period, the 'writers' of the Old Testament were NOT learned' people. I like to think of them as hillbillies of the hot desert. With a fondness for trying to scare small children. King David could NOT have written Psalm 22 because crucifixion did NOT exist in his day . MORE on prophecies . Biblical Prophecies - Rational Wiki rationalwiki.org RationalWiki>wiki>Biblical_prophecies Bottom Line The prophecies in the O.T. were deliberately targeted for fulfillment by the writers of the N.T. .
@@johndonahue3162 . Christopher Hitchens loathed religious texts especially the Bible yet knew it backwards, forwards, upwards and downwards ! As evidenced by his numerous victories over the poor religious victims who unwisely chose to debate the man . And it is my presupposition that the Bible, which was written by very simple fallible people, not only cannot be taken as a 'credible historical work' but as a matter of fact, is filled with inconsistencies, inaccuracies and obvious contradictions . And that is to be expected with a 'work' that has been embellished and subtracted from, and is over 2,000 years old (N.T.), 3,000 years old (O.T.) . Remember, as the evidence mounts, the 'god of the gaps' keeps receding .
@@johndonahue3162 . It seems you have a low opinion of people who sincerely disagree with Christianity. Unfortunately, I find that attitude all too typical, especially of your average Christian. You underestimate your opponent at your own risk. But your here trying to save souls, right ? www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/04/atheist-christopher-hitchens-writes-love A few critiques of A Case for Christ : Brent Landau TheConversation>the-case-for-christ-w... Jeff J.Powder infidels.org RationalWiki>wiki>Lee_Strobel Do you believe Noah's worldwide flood story and the general time line for it ?
Say what you will about religion it is evil, but not nearly as evil as scientists who torture and kill innocent defenseless animals all day everyday! Just one I would love for one of these evil scientists to try and do that too me and see what happens. i am not defenseless! Gutless scientists. I mean talk about living in the dark ages! And science admits they do not have all the answers. Hell look at all the things that existed that we had to wait for science t discover lol. They are so slow
Arrogant in what exactly? Being brutally forthright and not taking prisoners when arguing with numbnuts? You might feel a hue of arrogance from his speech, all I hear is a read intellectual who puts his thoughts without any "good manner censorship" when the situation asks for it. By his friends and relatives, he was always described as a kind man.
@Jack Mehan . Jack, he was human. It is easy to become addicted to whatever. He was wrong about things like politics. As are religious people believing in a deity.
John cherry-picks his chapters and verses. Let's take this one: "Light was among the very first things created", which glosses over the inconvenient biblical contention that the Earth had already been created in advance of light. Not to mention the sun and other stars, which had to wait for the fourth day, light coming during the first day. From where, exactly? But lets set that aside for now; it will be revisited. The same theory that John claims "confirms" his picklist items, "confirms" rather more solidly (if John is to be consistent) that the only place that elements heavier than iron can originate, is from the explosion/ collapse of a star. It may have escaped John's notice, but has not escaped mine that the earth abounds -- and clearly from the mineralisation of ancient fossils, always has done -- in elements heavier than iron. So it is fatuous to pretend that science supports a claim that the earth existed prior to the "creation" of light, because the source of the materials would not be available, at minimum, for hundreds of millions of years after the first stars formed, burned up most of their fuel, and then collapsed as supernovae. It may also have escaped John's notice, but has not escaped mine, that the source of all cosmic light (and, indirectly, the light of all burning organic materials) is stars, including our Sun. Our sun, it has also to be conceded, is the sole source of the illusion of day and night, which the writers of the Bible clearly failed to understand were not separate entities in alternation: it is always simultaneously day AND night on earth, viewed from a godlike perspective. It would have to be a god who was either stupid or drunk having decided that "the light was good" to pretend he or she went on to "separate the light from the darkness", and call the light day and the darkness night. So these inconvenient but crucial details in the account in Genesis (even forgiving all the others) provide an unimpeachable basis for the refutation of the claim that science supports the contentions in Genesis I (or for that matter, the slightly different contentions in Genesis II. Poor copy-editing?) Science may well be wrong, and usually is, before it is right, and "Big Bang cosmology" is very likely to be inaccurate and possibly plain wrong.... but it's John who's hitching his wagon to it, not me.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT The device you used to type that ignorant comment is only possible because of physics. Wtf do you think goes into a battery? Holy water? No, Lithium. "We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology."
Organized religions are about power and control of their "flocks." Science is about increasing knowledge and understanding of the world. When science contradicts religion, the religious "leaders" are threatened, because they can no longer claim to know what they're talking about. A world without religion would be better than the one we have, if only because people will have one less thing to hate each other for.
you can no more disprove the existance of a creative force than I can prove the existance of , it is religion that we should abolish not personal belief.
Yes it does seem that god (at least the Abrahamic concept of god) is far more likely a human construct. God's defined attributes are much too extreme, human like and complex to be apriori. Seems more like humans inventing superman as a panacea answer for everything they don't know.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT I said I was close to certain. In fact, in the way that ALL religions describe their gods, no god can exist in the way that any religion has ever described, especially not the four largest religions. The issue is that I KNOW evidence contradicts the concept of a created universe. This can be observed. Edit: My point being, at this point in time, is that there is zero basis for the concept of an intelligent designer due to the *proved* self-reliance of the universe. There is no need to assume any intelligence designed any of it. We are steadily on our way to proving most of everything we know of to be completely exclusive from the need of being created, excluding clearly animal made tools, structures, etc. A god concept only introduces another mystery ontop of one's we have yet to have an answer for. It's completely unreliable.
THAT WAS AMAZING !!! I have no fear of a god story or any part of it. The kind of love I have for this planet can't be described and Hitchens was truly a modern man type primate. It was cool how he lived and his memory was astounding.
Hi Miles. I'm a sucker for documentaries! Today, I was seeking Hitch clips. My degree was in electronics (with some cross-faculty modules in biological/neurological systems) but that was 40yrs ago. I used it to go into education (I'd been a youth worker so it was a natural progression). During my career (now over) I taught math, physics, electronics & computing to 11-18 year olds and chemistry, biology & even comparative religion up to 16y/o. Your debating style is far more efficient than mine.
It's a shame because biblical truths and scientific truth shall never shake hands so the biblical could go on for another 2000 years but Mr. Professor Hitchens, tried to give people the truth. A WMv
Best line i've heard from someone that told me a kid said Kid- "Why did god leave his revelation in a book" Pastor-"Centuries ago all the people had were books" Kid-"We have video now so where's God now?"
Of course, very few had any access to books. Books or scrolls were rare, expensive things. Very few could read at all. Many fewer could write. Indeed some of the copyists were simply copying the letter shapes, not knowing what the letters meant! So actually, the revelation existed as stories long before it was written down. Even the gospels were stories shared in communities. The best analogy I know is that they had folk tales and added fan fiction. Some cultures can be very strict about the memorization of laws and genealogies and property ownership, all passed down orally. Not all are strict.
Watching Cristopher is almost like going to church where they profess to reveal the truth about our place in the Universe when in actuality it's Someone like Christopher who does it so eloquently.
@@nelsonpleasant9388 by now you should have realized that "you're foolish" is the last thing that people are prepared to hear. Anything you say after that goes unheard. Next time try to support your claim and arrive at your conclusion in a logical and sensible manner a little later in your written text.
They applaud. Absence of laughter doesn't mean absence of understanding. How do you know no one was commenting or laughing? What would lack of commenting necessarily mean lack of understanding?
+Tito ..lol.....sorry took long to respond....everybody I know calls me tito...I love getting baked and watching these debates....I am fluent in Spanish (was born in pr) but I l like to watch things in there native language...I believe some things gets lost in translation......
He was just a fantastic speaker, he knew his subject thoroughly and had the ability to recall names and quotes from the Bible and more recent situations instantly, above all his command of English is unsurpassed !..
@RUSSIAN ROBOT Uh, no. You gave me another nonsensical response. And then, you indeed rigged the comment response. You are quite the malicious little debater, aren't you? Edit: Apparently, it could be an auto injecting error with a translator. It may not be you, yet it was suspicious.
The answer to some of your questions about how religion continues, it is money. Hitchens didn't make his money speaking out, he made it w/ journalism. All the people that are Christians are making money off of this stuff. They really can't believe the stuff they say. It's too ridiculous.
@ Mrs L one last thing, do you believe, based on "internal biblical evidence" that the sky has a roof over it, and above that roof is a large body of water? or do you try to reconcile biblical references to the firmament to what we now know about the upper atmosphere?
Bam, as always, all the information you need to disprove religion.. and this is only one of dozens and dozens of equal and more detailed statements of irrefutable logic. What a spectacularly intelligent man he was. Brilliant
I truly am glad and pleased to see, as I filter through all of these various videos (religion vs science, the age of reason, etc) that I am not alone in choosing humility over certainty. To claim that you KNOW what happens after you die or that a God exists or doesn't exist is just delusional - its the difference between faith and knowledge. Faith is fine - as long as it is not forced or preached as truth (a problem evangelists have because their faith entails that they preach it as truth.) I am glad to see, however, that there are still so many rational, reasonable people, amidst a sea of delusional people. And before fervent religious people begin slamming this post, I'd like to say that before becoming agnostic (not feeling the need to believe anything - just ADMITTING where we all are, which is that we don't KNOW) I was a Christian apologist for many years, attended a Christian university, interned with a church, argued and defended the faith, had a personal relationship with Jesus, etc. I am no stranger to any of the arguments posed for Christianity, but not a one of them that I have ever heard is enough to convince, convert, transform, "win over", etc my heart, head, or spirit.
If anyone with an open mind want to be awe inspired, one should turned to Science through proven facts, and of course to a nice tumbler with 2 ounces of Perrier plus 2 of Johnny Walker Black and listen to Christopher Hitchens, sorely miss, greatest orator and polemicist of modern times, may his mellifluous thought provoking voice echo in eternity until the end of times.
I realize that, and your honest and sincere answer that you cant think of a single thing that could change your mind PROVES that your beliefs are not reasonable
Soon we will have immortality, the ability to create life and computers that can create entire world's for us. While theists believe in a god of the gaps humanity will experience a new Enlightenment age like never before.
Cami Giulietti Too bad you or me or anyone reading this today won't exist by then, so it won't matter. It'll be too late. How's that for "enlightenment"? Isn't atheism wonderful?!
Many of the thinkers of the Enlightenment were deists , using the argument from design they reasoned that the earth and nature were like a complex machine and complex machines had to be ,designed . But they rejected the idea of a benevolent all powerful all knowing God , though not all of them . I guess you've read Candide , I agree with them , but I also reject the Darwinian version of our origins .It seems we have to know and if we don't we fill the gap with a ludicrous theory , claim the theory is scientific fact , and do a character assassination on anyone who dares to doubt it's validity . It's also the case that if your an evolution sceptic you must be a biblical creationist , also nonsense . And can I say that your science is controlled by the profit motive , unless things change it will bring about our extinction , not our advancement .
In 21st Century there is not religion but superstition. The fear of death and what will happen when one dies. They tend to do the "right things"? "behave decently"? "because they are terrified after death, that is the reality of superstitious world today. Why not there God ever dared to tell them that He never existed that life is more important than death?
here's his description of his trip: I was a speck on a beautiful butterfly wing; millions of other butterflies around us. We were flying through blooming flowers, blossoms on trees, and they were all coming out as we flew through them… [there were] waterfalls, pools of water, indescribable colors, and above there were these arcs of silver and gold light and beautiful hymns coming down from them. Indescribably gorgeous hymns. I later came to call them “angels,” those arcs of light in the sky
Not one person, not one group, or one God has come forth and proven that they are the true God and the rest are all false. I have an open mind and I'm still waiting
@Sean2: Giovanni Pomarelli lived in a little Italian village called Limoni on the side of Lake Garda about 250yrs ago. He was born different to everyone who had ever lived before - his DNA produced a mutated version of a protein called ApoA-1 which handles cholesterol in the body. The upshot of the mutation is that he (and all of his descendants) were/are protected from coronary heart disease. The mutated protein 'ApoA-1 Milano' is now made commercially and used to treat cardio-vascular disease.
I hope you're just being snarky and not serious. Seriously, we have no gods, not even Hitchens. For all of his eloquence on matters of religion, his politics, especially regarding our relations with Iraq, was a bone of contention for many atheists. So, don't get me wrong: I love listening to him destroy religions, apologists arguments, and religious thought in general, but to assume we _worship_ the man is just wrong.
His argument is SO strong that, at several points, I found myself saying his words at exactly the moment he said them. His theories are self-evident. There is NO argument against him, save that of blind "belief" in some God or other......all of which must be False Gods.
I heard on the radio today someone making the argument that dying without some sort of eternal existence would be a very scary thought, etc. Really? Think about how long eternity is, yea forever to think about all the things you did wrong, all the things you could have done. What would be your state of existence? Suppose you're all alone, or there are billions of other voices, or in limbo floating around with nothing to do? Now that is some scary shit to contemplate. If we really believed in our eternal existence there would be no sense of immediacy or no urgency. Why hurry when there is enough time to do anything, and everything?
Sorry, but the audience look totally bemused. They have NO idea what Mr Hitchens is talking about. They must have got free tickets. Some are ASLEEP, FFS. Where is this, University of the Dead?
@el. glad you read that thing too. i also like the last paragraph "Ignorant or not, I still insist that anything resembling the serolid isopod would have been labeled a trilobite without a moment’s hesitation by the most learned paleontologists" Any paleontologist worth his salt would also label a chicken as a dinosaur without a moments hesitation. I mean look at all the superficial similarities!
What a great point about hearing someone on a bus talking to god or shouting, hearing a spirit, would you move closer or further away, thinking their a bit of a nutter! Anyone saying they would not move away is being dishonest I think. That was brilliant by Hitchens.
a couple more quotes on the subject If one enumerates all of the attributes that we usually associate with the words "consciousness" and "awareness," each of them has a correlate in temporal lobe seizures, including vivid visual and auditory hallucinations, "out of body" experiences and an absolute sense of omnipotence or omniscience.
if one were to try to discuss morals in a systematic way, the first step is to define your criteria for evaluation. for example, we evaluate scientific theories based on their predictive value. the more accurate predictions a theory can make, the better a theory is. one possibility for a rubric for evaluating morality is the increase or decrease in the suffering of OTHERS caused by a persons action. its certainly not the only criteria, but its one worth looking at.
i read some very entertaining articles about people trying to pinpoint exactly which species in the animal kingdom have souls and which do not. It reminded me of the joke about "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin" I would LOVE to hear more about the difference between a human soul, a magpie soul, a bee soul and an octopus soul, as all 4 exhibit some aspects of consciousness, but very different types and degrees of consciousness
One of the best explanations Ive seen to date, It's such a challenge to fathom how to think as a creationist... And its even more difficult to imagine weather they are truly naive or are they stupid to believe in religion.
V.S. Ramachandran is one of the foremost experts in the world on neuroscience, and here are just a couple quoted from him. We (meaning scientists who study the brain) have given up the idea that there is a soul separate from our minds and bodies The mechanisms of perception are mainly involved in extracting statistical correlations from the world to create a model that is temporarily useful. more to come
also, quantum electrodynamics (QED) is the relativistic quantum field theory of electrodynamics. In essence, it describes how light and matter interact. its useful for predicting/describing the behaviour of electrons, but not at all useful for predicting/describing the behaviours of even cells, let alone organs or organisms
He taught me how to stand up for knowledge and reason, in a world determined to be ignorant. Thank you Christopher.
well said
@@bitumenjudea806 Thanks, my friend.
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An Atheist is his or her own god!!! Atheists worship their opinions as gods! See Psalm 2. God is never mocked! KING JESUS of Psalms 2 and 72 and Isaiah 2 is NOW Standing UP, and about 3 to 4 billion garbage people are about to be FLUSHED out of This WORLD!!! >>>The Sin of The so-called Christians all over The World and for donkey years simply tied God's HANDS to act on behalf of the impostors who have all their feet in Satan and their lip-service in God. (Matthew 7:21). BUT by GRACE Alone, see HIS BLESSING Upon Me! This is WHAT's About To Happen! Millions of so-called Pastors or Ministers will be among the Dead. ENOUGH Is ENOUGH!!!
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>>>Worldwide Reign of Christianity is Here! Psalm72 KING JESUS is here. It will happen through HIS Incarnate. HE will implement The HEART Of GOD in Isaiah 2, 11, 49, 59, 65; Jeremiah 1:10; Zephaniah 2:11; Ezekiel 36-37 for Me; Psalms 2 and 72, Haggai to Zechariah 6; etc. At the early months of this period, MILLIONS of wicked people shall die and all systems (political establishments, religions of force and murder, etc) that hinder people from fleeing to JESUS shall be removed. Almost All Muslims shall flee to JESUS during this time. Meditate on the cited scriptures, especially Isaiah 2.
>>This 794-year period of Psalm72 KING JESUS is a Gift to Me from DADDYGOD. Almost all Israelis now shall flee to JESUS (Become serious Christians); GREAT JESUS TEMPLE [Apostolic Christian Church Building] shall be erected at The original position of The Solomon's Temple. There will be Jesus-measure peace around The World. [Unfortunately after this time, the 🌎World shall become very decadent again, leading to The Revealing of AntiChrist and The Rest of The Book Of Revelation]. BUT For Now, The ONE-TRUE GOD is NOW STANDING Up!!! The SHOW is On!!! It's Mount-Carmel ShowDOWN at Millions of MT-Carmels in This MY 🌎WORLD! It's Mount-JESUS ⛪ CHURCH EXTRAVAGANZA! It's JesuCRACY Imperative!!! Hallelujah!
Hitchens was a genius. I regret that I found out about him after he had died. But I feel very lucky that there are so many GREAT video clips of him like this one to watch, listen and learn.
Me too, I love him!!!
As do I, he is a great man to learn how to argue from. Learn all you can about what your opponent is going to argue about, more than your opponent.
Isaac Allerton Debate, not argue! ;-)
Thank you for the clarification. I do get the two terms confused. Keep me straight should I make any other mistakes. Again, thanks.
Sorry, I didn't mean to correct you. It was a poor attempt at humor.
How missed you are Mr. Hitchens. Champion of reason.
no one can bitchslap verbally quite like him
***** you are of course free to believe what you want. I would never say otherwise.
Regarding reason, there is not much of the sort in any religion.
Religion caters to emotions and not the intellect. Religion is used to keep people connected in groups. First very tribal and later in empires like the Roman that used christianity and later the Arab that used Islam.
No news I that.
The reason the bible is silent about anything and everything related to nature is, that the men who wrote the bible didn't know.
When job asks god why and how all the dumb answer he gets is "where were you when I made the crocodile" etc.
When they do try to depict nature they get it all wrong. The bible and the quran.
Then the defence of this bronze age bs is of course to call it poetry and old wisdom. It is neither.
You want to compare it to art? Fine. Just don't bring it into the public sphere and certainly not into politics.
When you have numbscull republican congressmen denying climate change based on gods promise in the bible, we have a serious problem. If it was a small country the world could handle it, but this utter stupidity comes from the world's superpower and highest energy user in the world.
When ignorant religious zealots can play dice with the world's future it is scary.
***** to treat religion and their books as philosophy like it almost seem you do is fine. 😊
You are right the bible is not a science book but say that to your radical co-believers.
Using the "not able" to understand argument regarding the bible doesn't told up. At least not in my case. As a former christian I have read the entire bible twice and many many passages many more more times.
Have you read the entire bible? All of OT? This god cannot wipe his own ass that is how stupid he is.
NT I can give the same judgement.
If you want to stay a christian don't read the bible.
And then again, how do you know you are a christian? Well your parents probably brought you up that way. And in your particular branch of christianity.
Religion poisons everything.
But you sound like a reasonable and intelligent guy.
***** a relationship with a god that only exist in your head. That is a relationship with yourself. Your god is you.
But you believe what you want, just don't bring it into the public sphere and not into politics.
You read the bible and not the quran because you were prepped by your surroundings and upbringing and culture.
Religion is just a matter of randomness.
His reason is that no argument has convinced him. That's a good reason for him to remain unconvinced. God speaks to me, so I know God exists. I won't convince Christopher he is wrong, and he won't convince me I am wrong.
The difference between Science and religion is simple.
With Science mankind fly to the moon...with religion they fly into buildings.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT
Incorrect. Religion reveals no truths.
How true. And think of how intelligent the astronauts are how how ignorant the hijackers were.
Hate autocorrect
wahhh, best comment I've heard in years...
With science we made atomic bombs to blow up Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 🤔😉
This guy is an artist, speaking his mind into words which is so difficult for many of us. He speaks my mind in perfect vocabulary.
@Sam Spade . An artist, philosopher, poet and warrior for truth !
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . With the religious, reason sleeps !
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . You do not realize that 'personal Christianity', a belief in a 'personal savior' ... IS A RELIGION !
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . It has been noted that it is your OPINION that atheism is a religion. Technically speaking, atheism is a LACK of belief in a particular deity or deities. I do not believe in Santa Clause, therefore I'm an atheist regarding dear Santa.
This labeling of atheists as religious by theists of late is simply a tactic to go on the offensive with regards to religion. It signifies a deep LACK of faith in the deluded religious person. A way to deflect self doubt and to try to blunt pointed criticism. Finally, it is a weak attempt to get the nonbeliever to doubt non belief .
Non belief is NOT a close minded belief system without experience. It IS an open minded belief system without experience .
@RUSSIAN ROBOT . Some, probably more then half, nonbelievers ARE warriors for truth ! NO theists can make the same claim simply because they chose to adopt a belief system without ANY evidence to show as empirical proof. Faith is worthless and its ALL the theist has !
The theist has and will always have NOTHING !
To this day, no religion on planet Earth has ANY empirical scientific evidence to show that can be HONESTLY corroborated ! And of course, I truly wish it were otherwise, because I think heaven sounds pretty nice. I actually wouldn't mind spending eternity there. Too bad it doesn't exist ! Wishing it doesn't make it so .
Now, why did YOU come to Earth ?
I could listen to him speaking the whole day.
Miss you Mr. Hitchens...so much.
i listened to lies all my life, but now i have decided to hear that which is more probable and true. thank you mr hitchens.
RUSSIAN ROBOT religion is bullshit
What a loss to the world was the untimely death of the brilliant Hitch.
Hes seeing our progress from heaven
+jesusedel7. Yeah, right
Hitchens is Much More Important than Any God
He is amazing! I would worship him before I worship some "Hot Air God"
dprague
Brilliant and thoughtfully written! You've said it all. Belief is not scientific. Its conjecture at best and ignorance at worst.
***** Isn't it remarkable that anytime science says, "We don't know... yet"., you folks of faith are in an absolute panic to insert your personal god.
So, you don't find the science satisfying, or complete enough. Neither do scientists - that's why they keep researching. So how do you get to fill in the blanks with Allah? Why not Zeus? Why not Thor? Or Athena, or Neptune?
Every one of you "faithful" (i.e. gullible) have to completely deny all of the other gods (and versions of gods) to feel good about the universe and your place in it, and has to exist in a rapidly shrinking area of scientific gaps - with each tested scientific bit of knowledge making your god smaller and smaller and smaller.
How sad.
***** your first sentence is an incorrect assumption, I think. I've never heard an atheist, nor a scientist who has studied the big bang theory, say that matter is eternal and timeless. any decent scientist will say that no one knows what happened before the big bang or a few fractions of a second after it. as hitchens says in this video, atheists are always ready to admit what they don't know and that they are unnerved by religious people like you who say that they do know. I, as an atheist, know that the big bang theory is the best explanation for the origin of the universe but that it's also incomplete. perhaps it will always be incomplete, but there's a good chance it won't be. science has made a great deal of progress in revealing not only our origins as a species but the origin of our universe. it also continues to develop new technologies and medicine and so many inventions that keep improving our capabilities as a species. you may know that humans have actually set foot on the moon, and that they didn't use a holy text to develop the technology necessary to bring them there and bring them back. in this regard, and in regards to understanding the origin of the universe, all holy texts are utterly useless and I challenge you to point out something in your quran that might help us to save the earth from climate change, colonize mars, find an alien lifeform or travel to another solar system. I wager that science and science alone will accomplish these things, or nothing will
Love God so your argument here (or the argument of the author you're copy-pasting) is that an event can't happen unless some other event makes it happen, and therefore that event must have had a cause, etc into infinity - this is a presumption the author puts forward, and let's roll with it even though it's an unproven presumption as far as I can tell.
The author says that if there's an infinite chain of events, then something must have caused the Big Bang. What was it? Nobody knows, but the author says that an infinite chain of events cannot exist and has to have an ultimate beginning. Why should I agree with this? Because it can't "put on the garment of being"? Does that really mean anything or are these just flashy words that I should accept as a hand wave? Either I'm having a hard time breaking down this terminology and this is just opaque to me or this is as logically flawed as it appears to be. I honestly can't tell the difference
I would never want to be on stage arguing against a team of Hitchens, Dennett and Harris... all my arguments would be invalid even if I agreed haha lol
A superb intellectual and an amazing speaker.
Hitchens enlighten many through his courage that would have made Galileo proud. Great man. Great man. What a great man.
Just to help everyone out - those that oppose religion are right while those that believe in religion are wrong.
If only the world were so easily resolved. I`d add `lol,` but it`s not funny.
***** Did you reply to TheBeastIncarnate ? If so, than your reply is totally out of context. This isn't about how "the world could be resolved". This is about the question:"Are religions made up crap?" And they evidently are.
Rylan Joran Indeed my reply was directed at TheBeastlncarnate. TheBeastlncarnate said, as you will well know, that those whom oppose religion are right whilst those whom believe in religion are wrong.
If my assertion that I made to TheBeast... is out of context ( and I don`t admit it is ), then his assertion is equally out of context.
Of course religions are made up ! What kind of fool do you take me for ? As one that does not realize religions are made up ? But that which is made up is not ergo crap. Ie, it doesn`t follow. Eg, Common Law is made up. Does this mean that Common Law is therefore crap ? Beware of deeming Common Law crap.
You are way out of your depth.But say on...
***** I didn't derive the "crap" from the "made up". I said it is made up crap. And yes I do think lending made up crap any merit means to be wrong. As lending merit to any sort of crap means to be wrong.
Rylan Joran What makes you think it is crap ? I think we already agree that it( Religion ) is made up.
Hitchens absolutely nailed it at the end. Bravo.
I've never seen one argument or case being made by him that wasn't nailing it the entire time. Bravo, indeed :)
Religion was there scince the beging of humanity Adam , noah and much more were all massengers from god
I like it when he does this in debates. A god decides to send his son to Palestine for a human sacrifice as that will teach us, absolute nonsense, I'm so glad I dont know anyone personally that believes that shite! I couldnt take them seriously at all. Hitchens was on another level!
We miss you C.H.
John Donahue do you have prof that hell exists? No? But you believe it will all you’re heart? Lol that’s cute.
@@johndonahue3162 Only a religious person could come up with such a disgusting thing to say. Fuck you, sir.
No miracles, just random shit that happens. No ghosts, demons, etc. just evil "religious" people doing harm to humanity. No help from above, or trouble from below, just humans, greed, hate, and corruption. All we need is love!
Greatest comment I have ever read
He had such a direct way of explaining the Words of Wisdom that even a delusional person should be able to understand. But unfortunately most faith believers don't even care to think about the logical points he made
What a legend.
@@johndonahue3162 . He was more humble than most Christians I unfortunately know !
@@johndonahue3162 .
I know more then enough Christians, thank you. Is it not Christians, Jews and Muslims who boastfully proclaim that mere primates are made in the very image of a deity ?
Let us also remember that those despots that you listed, who technically were not all atheists, never killed one person IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM .
Now, a quote from one of our apostles, Sam Harris .
"The true horror of religion is it allows seemingly sane and intelligent people to believe by the billions what only lunatics or imbeciles could believe on their own."
That is not a personal hit ! Merely illustrating what 'group-think' can and has accomplished .
Yes, religion can and has done 'good works' ! That is not in question. But it can and has been a force for evil.
Thanks for the blessings .
And may Christopher Hitchens smile upon you ! 😎
@@johndonahue3162 .
I guess it takes a TRUE Christian to know what TRUE Christianity is, right ?
WAIT, WHAT ?
Regarding prophecies .
I think we all can agree that compared to the ancient Chinese at that time period, the 'writers' of the Old Testament were NOT learned' people. I like to think of them as hillbillies of the hot desert. With a fondness for trying to scare small children.
King David could NOT have written Psalm 22 because crucifixion did NOT exist in his day .
MORE on prophecies .
Biblical Prophecies - Rational Wiki
rationalwiki.org
RationalWiki>wiki>Biblical_prophecies
Bottom Line
The prophecies in the O.T. were deliberately targeted for fulfillment by the writers of the N.T. .
@@johndonahue3162 .
Christopher Hitchens loathed religious texts especially the Bible yet knew it backwards, forwards, upwards and downwards ! As evidenced by his numerous victories over the poor religious victims who unwisely chose to debate the man .
And it is my presupposition that the Bible, which was written by very simple fallible people, not only cannot be taken as a 'credible historical work' but as a matter of fact, is filled with inconsistencies, inaccuracies and obvious contradictions .
And that is to be expected with a 'work' that has been embellished and subtracted from, and is over 2,000 years old (N.T.), 3,000 years old (O.T.) .
Remember, as the evidence mounts, the 'god of the gaps' keeps receding .
@@johndonahue3162 . It seems you have a low opinion of people who sincerely disagree with Christianity. Unfortunately, I find that attitude all too typical, especially of your average Christian. You underestimate your opponent at your own risk. But your here trying to save souls, right ?
www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/04/atheist-christopher-hitchens-writes-love
A few critiques of A Case for Christ :
Brent Landau
TheConversation>the-case-for-christ-w...
Jeff J.Powder
infidels.org
RationalWiki>wiki>Lee_Strobel
Do you believe Noah's worldwide flood story and the general time line for it ?
Christopher Hitchens was a brave man who stood up for exactly for what he believed. Great job.
He changed America so the world.
I believe in life before death. No ghosts and no magic. Let's keep it real. We all die and forever stay dead soon enough. That's life. Live with it.
schlummieleinchen1 Yes, indeed. This is not a dress rehearsal. This is the big show.
Say what you will about religion it is evil, but not nearly as evil as scientists who torture and kill innocent defenseless animals all day everyday! Just one I would love for one of these evil scientists to try and do that too me and see what happens. i am not defenseless! Gutless scientists. I mean talk about living in the dark ages!
And science admits they do not have all the answers. Hell look at all the things that existed that we had to wait for science t discover lol. They are so slow
Robert H I certainly don’t rape or torture animals, not all scientists are involved in animal experiments. Just saying. I do eat them though.
Way to insert such a stupid view in the most liked comment so others can see what you want them to. Animal experiments are being weeded out already.
True.
Hitchens is greatly missed
Arrogant intellectual... okay
Arrogant in what exactly? Being brutally forthright and not taking prisoners when arguing with numbnuts? You might feel a hue of arrogance from his speech, all I hear is a read intellectual who puts his thoughts without any "good manner censorship" when the situation asks for it. By his friends and relatives, he was always described as a kind man.
@Jack Mehan say that he indeed was unbelievably arrogant. What points have you proven or refuted by that assertion?
@Jack Mehan . Jack, he was human. It is easy to become addicted to whatever. He was wrong about things like politics. As are religious people believing in a deity.
@Jack Mehan . I've been wrong before. I may actually be wrong now on certain things. What about you ?
let us sum up science vs religion--Galileo was convicted of heresy for saying that Earth revolved around the sun
Jazzkeyboardist1 - That is a political argument that has nothing to do with science or religion, but i agree with you 100% about the Iraq war.
John cherry-picks his chapters and verses. Let's take this one: "Light was among the very first things created", which glosses over the inconvenient biblical contention that the Earth had already been created in advance of light. Not to mention the sun and other stars, which had to wait for the fourth day, light coming during the first day. From where, exactly? But lets set that aside for now; it will be revisited.
The same theory that John claims "confirms" his picklist items, "confirms" rather more solidly (if John is to be consistent) that the only place that elements heavier than iron can originate, is from the explosion/ collapse of a star.
It may have escaped John's notice, but has not escaped mine that the earth abounds -- and clearly from the mineralisation of ancient fossils, always has done -- in elements heavier than iron. So it is fatuous to pretend that science supports a claim that the earth existed prior to the "creation" of light, because the source of the materials would not be available, at minimum, for hundreds of millions of years after the first stars formed, burned up most of their fuel, and then collapsed as supernovae.
It may also have escaped John's notice, but has not escaped mine, that the source of all cosmic light (and, indirectly, the light of all burning organic materials) is stars, including our Sun.
Our sun, it has also to be conceded, is the sole source of the illusion of day and night, which the writers of the Bible clearly failed to understand were not separate entities in alternation: it is always simultaneously day AND night on earth, viewed from a godlike perspective. It would have to be a god who was either stupid or drunk having decided that "the light was good" to pretend he or she went on to "separate the light from the darkness", and call the light day and the darkness night.
So these inconvenient but crucial details in the account in Genesis (even forgiving all the others) provide an unimpeachable basis for the refutation of the claim that science supports the contentions in Genesis I
(or for that matter, the slightly different contentions in Genesis II. Poor copy-editing?)
Science may well be wrong, and usually is, before it is right, and "Big Bang cosmology" is very likely to be inaccurate and possibly plain wrong.... but it's John who's hitching his wagon to it, not me.
whats this chrissy bullshit? You can discuss without being a bitch?
typical keyboard player.
Also, the Iraq war was a bush joint.. remember? The republicans wanted some oil and some 9/11 payback.. you prolly dont remember.
Christopher was a wise man we miss u brother rip
We all agree with Hitchens but are not eloquent enough to explain it.... at least I’m not😢
Well very few people are
Thank You, Mr Hitchens.
Christopher Hitchens was a man who was not ashamed of telling the truth...A great rarity nowadays.
What truth? 😂😂😂😂
@@jingievaalbal3322 That religion is BS!
Science always wins.
Sadly, not always. Even though it should.
Science is the study of reality. It has to win.
Science IS reality
@RUSSIAN ROBOT The device you used to type that ignorant comment is only possible because of physics. Wtf do you think goes into a battery? Holy water? No, Lithium.
"We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology."
@RUSSIAN ROBOT shut ya bitchass up lol ...always whining
Look for the religious humming and plugging their ears .
Organized religions are about power and control of their "flocks."
Science is about increasing knowledge and understanding of the world.
When science contradicts religion, the religious "leaders" are threatened, because they can no longer claim to know what they're talking about.
A world without religion would be better than the one we have, if only because people will have one less thing to hate each other for.
The world needs you Hitch!
i love Hitch
if there was a god, he would avoid Hitch, he would be no match... but there's not, so its irrelevant
you can no more disprove the existance of a creative force than I can prove the existance of , it is religion that we should abolish not personal belief.
James Bstard
I like what you said, however, I am still close to certain that God doesn't exist.
Yes it does seem that god (at least the Abrahamic concept of god) is far more likely a human construct. God's defined attributes are much too extreme, human like and complex to be apriori. Seems more like humans inventing superman as a panacea answer for everything they don't know.
You can see him leaving at 4:07
@RUSSIAN ROBOT
I said I was close to certain. In fact, in the way that ALL religions describe their gods, no god can exist in the way that any religion has ever described, especially not the four largest religions.
The issue is that I KNOW evidence contradicts the concept of a created universe. This can be observed.
Edit: My point being, at this point in time, is that there is zero basis for the concept of an intelligent designer due to the *proved* self-reliance of the universe. There is no need to assume any intelligence designed any of it. We are steadily on our way to proving most of everything we know of to be completely exclusive from the need of being created, excluding clearly animal made tools, structures, etc. A god concept only introduces another mystery ontop of one's we have yet to have an answer for. It's completely unreliable.
Christopher Hitchens shows life as it is. RIP.
Rip👀
THAT WAS AMAZING !!! I have no fear of a god story or any part of it. The kind of love I have for this planet can't be described and Hitchens was truly a modern man type primate. It was cool how he lived and his memory was astounding.
More people need to hear this. Really HEAR it!
Religion a figment of the imagination
He is greatly missed. Hitchens is one of the best debater ever. What did we do to deserve this guy.
Hi Miles. I'm a sucker for documentaries! Today, I was seeking Hitch clips.
My degree was in electronics (with some cross-faculty modules in biological/neurological systems) but that was 40yrs ago. I used it to go into education (I'd been a youth worker so it was a natural progression).
During my career (now over) I taught math, physics, electronics & computing to 11-18 year olds and chemistry, biology & even comparative religion up to 16y/o.
Your debating style is far more efficient than mine.
and that, ladies and gentlemen, is what is called getting "hitchslapped!!! a true master, poet, comedian, philosopher!!
What is up with the weird configuration of the podium? Is it meant to look like a boxing ring?
If you watch the full debate, it's setup like a boxing match between theists and atheists. Dawkins attended this as well.
Ahh now it makes sense.. for a second I thought they conjured the set from "The Running Man"
It's a shame because biblical truths and scientific truth shall never shake hands so the biblical could go on for another 2000 years but Mr. Professor Hitchens, tried to give people the truth. A WMv
He will always be amazing.
The truth of life's understanding is the fact that we do not know...except through the medium of science slowly revealing truth by evidence..
What if any truth can we find from philosophy?🤔😉
Best line i've heard from someone that told me a kid said
Kid- "Why did god leave his revelation in a book"
Pastor-"Centuries ago all the people had were books"
Kid-"We have video now so where's God now?"
Of course, very few had any access to books. Books or scrolls were rare, expensive things. Very few could read at all. Many fewer could write. Indeed some of the copyists were simply copying the letter shapes, not knowing what the letters meant! So actually, the revelation existed as stories long before it was written down. Even the gospels were stories shared in communities. The best analogy I know is that they had folk tales and added fan fiction. Some cultures can be very strict about the memorization of laws and genealogies and property ownership, all passed down orally. Not all are strict.
Watching Cristopher is almost like going to church where they profess to reveal the truth about our place in the Universe when in actuality it's Someone like Christopher who does it so eloquently.
You can tell the audience has no idea what Hitchens is talking about due to the lack of applause, laughter, or comment of any kind.
This was held in Mexico, the translators couldn't keep up and no deeply religious person gets up and changes their whole life in ten minutes.
your very foolish we know exactly what he is saying u must be religious theirfor u do what u do and that is lie all the time
@@nelsonpleasant9388 by now you should have realized that "you're foolish" is the last thing that people are prepared to hear. Anything you say after that goes unheard. Next time try to support your claim and arrive at your conclusion in a logical and sensible manner a little later in your written text.
Or plain complete agreement and awe?
They applaud. Absence of laughter doesn't mean absence of understanding. How do you know no one was commenting or laughing? What would lack of commenting necessarily mean lack of understanding?
The Abrahamic religions have been the most dangerous.
You are missed Sir. RIP.
Is full video of this debate available ? where did this take place ? when ...eagerly waiting for answers.
Miss you! Thank you for telling the truth! RIP!
Hitchens book on Teresa is really fantastic he explains how Hindus were fooled by Teresa the devil
please...can anybody tell me where to watch this entire debate without any edits...I love watching these debates......thanks.
I should rephrase that,...can anybody tell me where I can watch this entire debate in English.I am fluent in Spanish but its not the same.
tatito rodriguez Nein
tatito rodriguez haha look at our names :D lol i was here to ask the same question :D i wanted to watch the complete debate, i can't find it hahaha
+Tito ..lol.....sorry took long to respond....everybody I know calls me tito...I love getting baked and watching these debates....I am fluent in Spanish (was born in pr) but I l like to watch things in there native language...I believe some things gets lost in translation......
+tatito rodriguez Hitchen's opponent D'Souza? Believe me you'll tire of that smug dishonest convicted criminal slimebag very quickly.
He was just a fantastic speaker, he knew his subject thoroughly and had the ability to recall names and quotes from the Bible and more recent situations instantly, above all his command of English is unsurpassed !..
I love hearing him talk, so intelligent on so many levels unlike so many, you can't get anything past him trying to be clever.
How can a finite mind with admittedly lack of all the answers be so intelligent?
TheLarigrader more intelligent that you mate.
Outstanding.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT
Provide a reason why it's "incorrect nonsense" or stand to be pushed aside as one incoherent and annoying time waster.
@RUSSIAN ROBOT
Uh, no.
You gave me another nonsensical response. And then, you indeed rigged the comment response. You are quite the malicious little debater, aren't you?
Edit: Apparently, it could be an auto injecting error with a translator. It may not be you, yet it was suspicious.
The answer to some of your questions about how religion continues, it is money. Hitchens didn't make his money speaking out, he made it w/ journalism. All the people that are Christians are making money off of this stuff. They really can't believe the stuff they say. It's too ridiculous.
@ Mrs L
one last thing, do you believe, based on "internal biblical evidence" that the sky has a roof over it, and above that roof is a large body of water?
or do you try to reconcile biblical references to the firmament to what we now know about the upper atmosphere?
Bam, as always, all the information you need to disprove religion.. and this is only one of dozens and dozens of equal and more detailed statements of irrefutable logic. What a spectacularly intelligent man he was. Brilliant
Maybe if we sacrifice Dinesh, the universe will give us back Christopher.
Effortless Eloquence.
I truly am glad and pleased to see, as I filter through all of these various videos (religion vs science, the age of reason, etc) that I am not alone in choosing humility over certainty. To claim that you KNOW what happens after you die or that a God exists or doesn't exist is just delusional - its the difference between faith and knowledge. Faith is fine - as long as it is not forced or preached as truth (a problem evangelists have because their faith entails that they preach it as truth.) I am glad to see, however, that there are still so many rational, reasonable people, amidst a sea of delusional people. And before fervent religious people begin slamming this post, I'd like to say that before becoming agnostic (not feeling the need to believe anything - just ADMITTING where we all are, which is that we don't KNOW) I was a Christian apologist for many years, attended a Christian university, interned with a church, argued and defended the faith, had a personal relationship with Jesus, etc. I am no stranger to any of the arguments posed for Christianity, but not a one of them that I have ever heard is enough to convince, convert, transform, "win over", etc my heart, head, or spirit.
Hitch accomplished more in his 20 minutes lunch brake then most of us in our life time, I am in awe to know that there are more like him.
Long live scientists.
If anyone with an open mind want to be awe inspired, one should turned to Science through proven facts, and of course to a nice tumbler with 2 ounces of Perrier plus 2 of Johnny Walker Black and listen to Christopher Hitchens, sorely miss, greatest orator and polemicist of modern times, may his mellifluous thought provoking voice echo in eternity until the end of times.
Anyone have a link to the complete debate? it looks like a great lineup!
It's Christopher's birthday today. What a great man, would have loved to have a conversation with him
Brilliance. Sorely missed.
I believe in life after death, just not mine. Life of course will go on after me but I will not know any of it.
does anyone know what conference this was from?
etiennestoller idk, if u found it, please tell me.
I realize that, and your honest and sincere answer that you cant think of a single thing that could change your mind PROVES that your beliefs are not reasonable
Soon we will have immortality, the ability to create life and computers that can create entire world's for us. While theists believe in a god of the gaps humanity will experience a new Enlightenment age like never before.
Cami Giulietti Too bad you or me or anyone reading this today won't exist by then, so it won't matter. It'll be too late. How's that for "enlightenment"? Isn't atheism wonderful?!
pegpenguin That's the truth, it doesn't matter if it's "wonderful" or not. Truth is truth, learn to live with it and perhaps end with it heh! 😀
Although I would grant you that you were, perhaps an immature during posting this cowardly comment.
More science fact and less science fiction would save you from making such silly posts.
Many of the thinkers of the Enlightenment were deists , using the argument from design they reasoned that the earth and nature were like a complex machine and complex machines had to be ,designed . But they rejected the idea of a benevolent all powerful all knowing God , though not all of them . I guess you've read Candide , I agree with them , but I also reject the Darwinian version of our origins .It seems we have to know and if we don't we fill the gap with a ludicrous theory , claim the theory is scientific fact , and do a character assassination on anyone who dares to doubt it's validity . It's also the case that if your an evolution sceptic you must be a biblical creationist , also nonsense . And can I say that your science is controlled by the profit motive , unless things change it will bring about our extinction , not our advancement .
In 21st Century there is not religion but superstition. The fear of death and what will happen when one dies. They tend to do the "right things"? "behave decently"? "because they are terrified after death, that is the reality of superstitious world today. Why not there God ever dared to tell them that He never existed that life is more important than death?
Such an eloquent speaker.
here's his description of his trip:
I was a speck on a beautiful butterfly wing; millions of other butterflies around us. We were flying through blooming flowers, blossoms on trees, and they were all coming out as we flew through them… [there were] waterfalls, pools of water, indescribable colors, and above there were these arcs of silver and gold light and beautiful hymns coming down from them. Indescribably gorgeous hymns. I later came to call them “angels,” those arcs of light in the sky
Hitch at his best.
Not one person, not one group, or one God has come forth and proven that they are the true God and the rest are all false. I have an open mind and I'm still waiting
Wonderful!
@Sean2: Giovanni Pomarelli lived in a little Italian village called Limoni on the side of Lake Garda about 250yrs ago. He was born different to everyone who had ever lived before - his DNA produced a mutated version of a protein called ApoA-1 which handles cholesterol in the body.
The upshot of the mutation is that he (and all of his descendants) were/are protected from coronary heart disease.
The mutated protein 'ApoA-1 Milano' is now made commercially and used to treat cardio-vascular disease.
God of the atheists
Dont be so rude.
He is the Lord and Savior, the one above all, the only, allknowing and almighty god.
I hope you're just being snarky and not serious.
Seriously, we have no gods, not even Hitchens. For all of his eloquence on matters of religion, his politics, especially regarding our relations with Iraq, was a bone of contention for many atheists. So, don't get me wrong: I love listening to him destroy religions, apologists arguments, and religious thought in general, but to assume we _worship_ the man is just wrong.
Poor guy Dinesh. lmao.
His argument is SO strong that, at several points, I found myself saying his words at exactly the moment he said them. His theories are self-evident. There is NO argument against him, save that of blind "belief" in some God or other......all of which must be False Gods.
I heard on the radio today someone making the argument that dying without some sort of eternal existence would be a very scary thought, etc. Really? Think about how long eternity is, yea forever to think about all the things you did wrong, all the things you could have done. What would be your state of existence? Suppose you're all alone, or there are billions of other voices, or in limbo floating around with nothing to do? Now that is some scary shit to contemplate. If we really believed in our eternal existence there would be no sense of immediacy or no urgency. Why hurry when there is enough time to do anything, and everything?
I get rekt religion
Sorry, but the audience look totally bemused. They have NO idea what Mr Hitchens is talking about. They must have got free tickets. Some are ASLEEP, FFS. Where is this, University of the Dead?
@el.
glad you read that thing too. i also like the last paragraph
"Ignorant or not, I still insist that anything resembling the serolid isopod would have been labeled a trilobite without a moment’s hesitation by the most learned paleontologists"
Any paleontologist worth his salt would also label a chicken as a dinosaur without a moments hesitation. I mean look at all the superficial similarities!
Where can I watch this whole thing?
Don't waste your time. This was the only good part 👍
What a great point about hearing someone on a bus talking to god or shouting, hearing a spirit, would you move closer or further away, thinking their a bit of a nutter! Anyone saying they would not move away is being dishonest I think. That was brilliant by Hitchens.
a couple more quotes on the subject
If one enumerates all of the attributes that we usually associate with the words "consciousness" and "awareness," each of them has a correlate in temporal lobe seizures, including vivid visual and auditory hallucinations, "out of body" experiences and an absolute sense of omnipotence or omniscience.
if one were to try to discuss morals in a systematic way, the first step is to define your criteria for evaluation. for example, we evaluate scientific theories based on their predictive value. the more accurate predictions a theory can make, the better a theory is.
one possibility for a rubric for evaluating morality is the increase or decrease in the suffering of OTHERS caused by a persons action. its certainly not the only criteria, but its one worth looking at.
i read some very entertaining articles about people trying to pinpoint exactly which species in the animal kingdom have souls and which do not. It reminded me of the joke about "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin"
I would LOVE to hear more about the difference between a human soul, a magpie soul, a bee soul and an octopus soul, as all 4 exhibit some aspects of consciousness, but very different types and degrees of consciousness
One of the best explanations Ive seen to date, It's such a challenge to fathom how to think as a creationist... And its even more difficult to imagine weather they are truly naive or are they stupid to believe in religion.
hitchens when he speaks...DEFINES.......one and maybe the best part of intelligence.......intelligence certainly recognizes truth...
Perfect ending to just another Sunday. ;)
I'll applaud it, it's bang on in my books.
V.S. Ramachandran is one of the foremost experts in the world on neuroscience, and here are just a couple quoted from him.
We (meaning scientists who study the brain) have given up the idea that there is a soul separate from our minds and bodies
The mechanisms of perception are mainly involved in extracting statistical correlations from the world to create a model that is temporarily useful.
more to come
8:55 the most meaningful words spoken.
also, quantum electrodynamics (QED) is the relativistic quantum field theory of electrodynamics. In essence, it describes how light and matter interact.
its useful for predicting/describing the behaviour of electrons, but not at all useful for predicting/describing the behaviours of even cells, let alone organs or organisms
I agree with this concept, it’s much easier to fool someone than to convince someone that they have been fooled