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In theory Elbing having 25mm armor and superb AP penetration would be good counter to these ships. These ships don't equip with hydro and their possible playstyle is to sit in smoke and yeet shells so any torpedo ships will do just fine. Also 12km radar of soviet will help you spot them inside smoke at long range will do counter them well
Jinan: "Witness the technique that has been passed down to me by my master..." *Training montage with Kitakami* (That thing is still somewhere in development hell)
I'd be interested in seeing what alternate flag Jinan would have. Yes, it's American in origin, but there was this "Sino-Soviet" Split as well...... naming capital ships after provincial capitals would be something both the ROCN and PLAN might do.
Well, frankly part of the problem is most nations can't even go past T9 without dabbling in post-war for their ships and equipment. Even for the Royal Navy, Daring and Minotaur are 100% post-war, not to mention the non-postwar T10 designs still use post-war AA.
@@CwNahAn I am not so sure about that. Broadside maybe, but i think these ships will try to get away a lot, so they should get smacked from behind or while angled by IJN shells.
6:00 to clarify, the Dido's were first equipped with 133mm's and the second batch with 113mm's The 113mm's doing a better roll at AA, which was the primary purpose of the class (and subclasses) (They were also cheaper and Britain couldn't get enough 5.25" guns and turrets made in time for the ships being launched). So it's likely the A and B hull's It does *not* mean 133mm in a 113mm turret or vice versa, nor are they squeeze bores. (Although I'm sure you could cram the 113mm's into the 5.25" mkI or mkII turret).
T10 FDG looking nice. People forget how nasty main gun reload FDG is. Now it is at T10 with 30mm of overmatch (not something the game needs more of but at this point everyone has it). Also, rip Montana, the last tech tree T10 that cannot deal with 30mm
@L that sap is garbage. Colombo is Lepanto with 4 more guns, but Lepanto 12 guns do nothing at all. So 4 more guns doing nothing. Love how 16 shells at enemy nose in BB - 1 hit on stationary BB and its shatter :D. Both Lepanto and Colombo best way of overmatch is ramming during smoke. That best they can do. And if someone shows broadside then why bother with sap instead of AP ?
@@Mario-kf3ej no no, SAP is broken, its just the garbage dispersion and inconsistency and the 10% pen damage cap on DDs that makes ITA BB feel bad to use. I've gotten monster games in my Colombo but yea ... it struggles a lot without Deadeye now.
3:12 hm the citadel doesn't extend to the ammo storage bellow the turrets? Not really a expert but I believe the citadel typically covers the main machinery of the ship such as the engines but also protects areas were ammunition is stored.
Citadel armor is typically thickest over the magazines. While getting hit in the machine spaces and losing power and engines is bad, getting hit in the magazines can be exponentially worse.
I'm so mad that they tied Rahmat's guns to the hulls instead of making them actual gun options like e.g. on Mogami. Let me choose whether I want dpm or alpha without having the drawback of having to use the stock hull! Couldn't care less about the tiers 8 to 10 of the Asian cruisers, but at least I can treat the tiers 5 to 7 as Royal Navy/US Navy ships, since their ship classes existed.
@@shoaibgazi8510 Well, for me it's the opposite. I couldn't care less about tiers 8-10, being all paper ships. Tiers 5-7 are at least real ship classes, even though they should be UK/USA.
the thing with depth charges is that it isnt 16 at once, but in patterns so 4 launches of 4 depth charges. depending on the time between launches and the distance they are fired out it may or may not actually be that powerful.
And you also have to park on their head and go the same direction as they go, because if you dont, you will do no damage. I dont think ship dropped DCs are viable. I played mostly DDs since the update and I cant remember a single time I could use them. If the sub has IQ in the double digits you will never catch them with ship dropped DCs
@@yhormthemidget yeah true, has someone that has been playing subs a bit, i can say what i fear the most is ASW planes, that things are anoying and do damage, very rare for me to die from depth charges from DD and the only times it happened i was already realy low on hp because i got blasted by planes. Other times i get damaged is when i get shot at periscope depth. Actualy i have already kill DD that where trying to rush me with depth charges, i just pop up out of the water and shotgun them with torps in the face.
@@Zergling. the whole thing is a joke. In a gameplay sense it is as backwards as it can be. You have to run down something you cant see, something that is far too quick and turns like shopping cart (underwater mind you... fluid resistance be damned), while the enemy team can still shoot you. I am not a game developer but pretty sure a 'hard counter' should not have to commit ritual suicide just to have a miniscule chance at killing the target. It seems lile the historical argument only comes up when it is convinient for WG. But on the previous note, even if you catch the sub, the DCs do faaar to little damage. If they expect youto park on a sub, I expect it to instantly explode. Not just tickle it after 2 sets, while it most likely dodged the whole stuff. Subs even get nice little convinient red indicators for DCs while I have to drop them blind.
Well, imagine being left against one of those in a Harugumo or kita: you have about the same health, their torps can't touch you and you pen them all over with ifhe, or can deal nasty ap damage should they go broadside. Add a spotting advantage and you have a cruiser line that gets absolutely bullied by DDs and can go nothing about it.
Historically Chungking (重庆, capital city of China during WWII) aka HMS Aurora, was exactly the same British ship as Huanghe (黄河 Yellow River). After Chungking defected to Communists it was sunk by Nationalist's bombing, and then eventually lifted out of water later and renamed as Huanghe. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Aurora_(12)
Up next: Russian supership submarine "Balansnik" (year of design: 2022), hypercavitating torps, 50km range, 90k damage each, special talent: mid-range ICBM‘s to straight up win the game.
400mm citadel and 212mm bow armor. 80mm deck armor and no superstructure. Special gimmick is cannot be destroyed by any ICBM nuclear explosion. Also as small as squirrel.
@@edhikurniawan Make so it has a laser point defense system that destroys any projectile shoot at her, be it missiles, gun rounds, rockest, planes etc. OH and some kind of underwater defense system that destroys any torpedos that came too close dont matter their speed.
@@MrSchwabentier yeah i considered that, but asashio's reach further and hit harder (until u magically upgrade ur commander and he kindly adds more explosive filler to ur torps)
Some of the didos were armed with 8 113mm due to supply shortages. The model is of the standard 133mm guns. I think the 113mm are now going to by an a hull and the 10 133mm a B Hull
Looking at the guns and layout of the turrets I think Rahmah has 3x2 113mm turrets in the front and 2x2 133mm turrets in the back no matter the hull. Makes sense to save some weight in order to add a third turret on one side, especially that high up.
when Delny gets introduced will there be a buff for Khabarovsk to stay current or will it be a ''dead'' ship?? Something like extra torp range, extra gun range or better turning?
I'm guessing if you own it at the time of it's replacement you'll get a Perma cammo (and maybe they'll change a value or two). It'll be like they did for the Moskva way back
Both the 5.25 and 4.5 inch turrets were heavily in demand on larger vessels and the aluminum used to reduce top side weight on the Didos was also in short supply. For these reasons, Q or X turrets were not fitted when launched on the earlier ships with the missing turret replaced by a 4 in QF gun mounted instead. Some Didos mounted the designed 5.25 in armament and some mounted 4.5 in guns, depending on availability. The 4.5 in armed ships also had B turret mounted on a forward deck house which also supplanted the barbette for X turret. The mixed armament of 4.5 in and 5.25 in guns, though, is purely a Wargaming fiction.
I don’t get WG. Some of these ships actually were transferred to Asian countries but are not represented Chung King - real ship. Rahmat - never existed. But a dido was sent to Pakistan and renamed Babur. (Probably gonna sell it as a premium) Chumpon - never existed, none of the Atlanta/Oakland class cruisers were sold to any other nation. Tier 8-10 - usual WG paper ships
New Zealand Got Royalist and I think Bollona. Pakistan and India received a few from various classes as well. The Chinese inherited the one Arethusa class. That was it I believe. BS line.
If the Preussen is suppose to be based on H42 or H43 then the main guns should be 48cm/480mm/18.9 inch main guns. Since it says year of design 1945 then it would be H 44 which would be built if it was every going to be with 50.8 cm/508mm/ 20 inch guns with 8 of them. All H class ships were designed with twin gun mounts for the main armaments. With secondary armaments being a blend of 150mm and 105mm guns.
as a korean Sejong is one of the best king in the whole history of the korean peninsula. he made modern laws, like giving people vacations after giving birth, having ppl get 3 judgements before giving them a major punishment. he died after working too hard without enough sleep.
Its same as what the bogatyr has remember? Thst has 2 sets of guns 152 + 130mm, its gets 130s on ug Hull same principle here i bet sept they will implement it as you can see it gets gun change. As you know bogatyr gets 152s from Hull a and 130mm from hull b
So is there a special reason why this branch starts at TV? there are multiple actual Chinese or 'Pan-Asian' built protected and amoured Cruisers you could put there.
@@b-17gflyingfortress6 I meant more in terms of her getting a similar legendary mod to GK. It seems like it would really fit her close in brawler playstyle.
Colombo has sap. Point is Montana is the last tech tree that relies on her AP and cannot deal with 30mm. Sure she has HE but it is not her thing, though I have seen some really good games where she relied on it.
@@danh7411 interesting - does this mean the primary magazines would be within the citadel, with only ready-to-use ammunition near the actual hoists? It seems such a weird engineering decision imo
Meanwhile the Delny has "EREBAN" written on its hull: aka Yerevan, the Capital of Armenia (in this case, the Armenian SSR). Guessing the ingame name will be changed to Ereban.
@@jaydenmackenzie9670 I do not know exactly why they named it Sejong, but Sejong the Great is one of the most important people in Korean history, and Koreans pronounce their j like I detailed abive
honestly i want to play the new line, but i understand that it isnt good for the game also got 2.2 million credits last night with chkalov in brawl, you can strike every 15-20 seconds doing 10k... balans
Do i need to point out that most of the tier 10 ships are late ww2 early 50s ships? WW2 ended in 1945, so 5 or 6 years of ship development in the new atomic age, im not surprised alot of those ships look like they belong in the Cold War. Hell they probably where.
Does anyone else love what those new soviet ships represent? The soviets were so incompetend in bilding ships that WG had to take designs from the cold war so the russians can have competitive stuffs to german and british ship designs from WW1.
These ships will get nerfed or powercrept at next update, only to be replaced by a premium equivalent. We've seen this page from the Wargambling playbook before
so why with copy pasta? ships from pan-asia mostly buy from russia, usa, or uk. like "Irian" which was bought from Russia with the Sverdlov class model, and etc.
WG already tested internally guided anti ship missiles and hinted those in plans for 2017 - both cameo of Kildin class DD, first russian DDG and mention of "new types of armament"... so if anything, they are over 4 years behind schedule
I play on the asian server and mainly flint captains just rush and die. Now seeing there are alot and alot of chinese players in the asian server. I pray they don't get a brain and be smart on how they play these ships and just become my free piñatas
Brandenburg no good? Guess it depends on the captain....My very First match in the boat, just guessing on setup...I got 237k, would've been a bit more but got a kill stolen by a fast DD. Rudder shift a bit high, but hey, its a BB. It's also a very good looking boat on the water. I don't do the 'admiral' bundles but for the base boat price, i'm happy so far.
@@b-17gflyingfortress6 I have both. Brandenburg has better armor, more speed, more guns, more secondaries, little less hp. I saw where Aeroon said he would choose the Tirp because of six degree better firing angles, er,,but that's only if you try to fire ALL the Brandy's guns, if you don't, pretty much the same. Brandy also seems to have better AA. AND,,, for some reason not apparent on paper, Brandy's guns seem more powerful. Like I said, so far so good. I was surprised at how the the secondaries burn down DD's, and especially surfacing subs...deadly. Just don't go feeling omnipotent and take on 4 or five ships at once ;) wink., oh, it may be my imagination but torp angles on Brandy seem a bit better also.
I can't get over how ridiculously cold war the Delny looks.
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But she basically looks like Tashkent built in 1940. With different turrets
The Pan Asian special captains give better demo expert and survival expert dont they?
So their T10 still hast the same HP as the Zao XD
Well the 'year of design' is 1952 which is Cold War era around the time of the start of the nuclear arms race.
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In theory Elbing having 25mm armor and superb AP penetration would be good counter to these ships. These ships don't equip with hydro and their possible playstyle is to sit in smoke and yeet shells so any torpedo ships will do just fine. Also 12km radar of soviet will help you spot them inside smoke at long range will do counter them well
Jinan: "Witness the technique that has been passed down to me by my master..."
*Training montage with Kitakami*
(That thing is still somewhere in development hell)
I'd be interested in seeing what alternate flag Jinan would have. Yes, it's American in origin, but there was this "Sino-Soviet" Split as well...... naming capital ships after provincial capitals would be something both the ROCN and PLAN might do.
Halfed kitakami lol
Tier 9 sejong got dumpstered by my fiji... They really aren't strong.
At this rate with all these Cold War looking ships WeeGee will release the Ford class USS Enterprise ingame before the launching of the actual one.
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Well, frankly part of the problem is most nations can't even go past T9 without dabbling in post-war for their ships and equipment. Even for the Royal Navy, Daring and Minotaur are 100% post-war, not to mention the non-postwar T10 designs still use post-war AA.
ah yes tier 20 ford class enterprise with stealth f22 launching nuclear guided missiles that aim harder than sub torps
Well, this comment aged well with the new super carriers :P
0:00 Intro
New Pan-Asian Cruiser Line
0:14 Chungking
3:54 Rahmat
8:29 Chumphon
12:32 Harbin
16:31 Sejong
22:41 Jinan
New Premium Ships
28:13 Dalian
32:47 Delny
G.K. Replacement
36:43 Preussen
Delny is also replacement ship
@@AH-pq7yw yes my mistake
I think IJN BBs will love this line. They have the range and caliber to just blab these things once spottet imo.
Of course . I can blab them with shikishima and the Yamato . Dev striiiiikessssss
@@praneshramana3873 “We promise to not have guns larger than Yamato’s 460mm.” “No submarines.” 😂
Overpen lol 🗿
@@CwNahAn I am not so sure about that. Broadside maybe, but i think these ships will try to get away a lot, so they should get smacked from behind or while angled by IJN shells.
@@Fackeldackel yes indeed
6:00 to clarify, the Dido's were first equipped with 133mm's and the second batch with 113mm's
The 113mm's doing a better roll at AA, which was the primary purpose of the class (and subclasses) (They were also cheaper and Britain couldn't get enough 5.25" guns and turrets made in time for the ships being launched). So it's likely the A and B hull's
It does *not* mean 133mm in a 113mm turret or vice versa, nor are they squeeze bores. (Although I'm sure you could cram the 113mm's into the 5.25" mkI or mkII turret).
T10 FDG looking nice. People forget how nasty main gun reload FDG is. Now it is at T10 with 30mm of overmatch (not something the game needs more of but at this point everyone has it).
Also, rip Montana, the last tech tree T10 that cannot deal with 30mm
Montana is still great there’s nothing wrong with it.
What is colombo again?
@L that sap is garbage. Colombo is Lepanto with 4 more guns, but Lepanto 12 guns do nothing at all. So 4 more guns doing nothing. Love how 16 shells at enemy nose in BB - 1 hit on stationary BB and its shatter :D.
Both Lepanto and Colombo best way of overmatch is ramming during smoke. That best they can do.
And if someone shows broadside then why bother with sap instead of AP ?
@@Mario-kf3ej no no, SAP is broken, its just the garbage dispersion and inconsistency and the 10% pen damage cap on DDs that makes ITA BB feel bad to use. I've gotten monster games in my Colombo but yea ... it struggles a lot without Deadeye now.
Bbs were meant to kill cruisers is why their guns were so big etc a cruiser shudnt be able to bow tank a bb thats ridiculous
3:12 hm the citadel doesn't extend to the ammo storage bellow the turrets? Not really a expert but I believe the citadel typically covers the main machinery of the ship such as the engines but also protects areas were ammunition is stored.
Citadel armor is typically thickest over the magazines. While getting hit in the machine spaces and losing power and engines is bad, getting hit in the magazines can be exponentially worse.
It is smart to do so, but not compulsory
WG just trolling ppl at this point
you can literally see this on the blueprints, the armored citadel also doesn't reach under the turret.
I'm so mad that they tied Rahmat's guns to the hulls instead of making them actual gun options like e.g. on Mogami. Let me choose whether I want dpm or alpha without having the drawback of having to use the stock hull!
Couldn't care less about the tiers 8 to 10 of the Asian cruisers, but at least I can treat the tiers 5 to 7 as Royal Navy/US Navy ships, since their ship classes existed.
i can understand. but Rahmat is t6 so i don't care much
@@shoaibgazi8510 Well, for me it's the opposite. I couldn't care less about tiers 8-10, being all paper ships. Tiers 5-7 are at least real ship classes, even though they should be UK/USA.
the thing with depth charges is that it isnt 16 at once, but in patterns so 4 launches of 4 depth charges. depending on the time between launches and the distance they are fired out it may or may not actually be that powerful.
And you also have to park on their head and go the same direction as they go, because if you dont, you will do no damage. I dont think ship dropped DCs are viable. I played mostly DDs since the update and I cant remember a single time I could use them. If the sub has IQ in the double digits you will never catch them with ship dropped DCs
@@yhormthemidget yeah true, has someone that has been playing subs a bit, i can say what i fear the most is ASW planes, that things are anoying and do damage, very rare for me to die from depth charges from DD and the only times it happened i was already realy low on hp because i got blasted by planes.
Other times i get damaged is when i get shot at periscope depth. Actualy i have already kill DD that where trying to rush me with depth charges, i just pop up out of the water and shotgun them with torps in the face.
@@Zergling. the whole thing is a joke. In a gameplay sense it is as backwards as it can be. You have to run down something you cant see, something that is far too quick and turns like shopping cart (underwater mind you... fluid resistance be damned), while the enemy team can still shoot you. I am not a game developer but pretty sure a 'hard counter' should not have to commit ritual suicide just to have a miniscule chance at killing the target. It seems lile the historical argument only comes up when it is convinient for WG. But on the previous note, even if you catch the sub, the DCs do faaar to little damage. If they expect youto park on a sub, I expect it to instantly explode. Not just tickle it after 2 sets, while it most likely dodged the whole stuff. Subs even get nice little convinient red indicators for DCs while I have to drop them blind.
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Well, imagine being left against one of those in a Harugumo or kita: you have about the same health, their torps can't touch you and you pen them all over with ifhe, or can deal nasty ap damage should they go broadside. Add a spotting advantage and you have a cruiser line that gets absolutely bullied by DDs and can go nothing about it.
What do the pan Asian hate during WW2
Japan
What is ijn famous for: destroyers
Preussen: 24 second reload
Vermont: A fucking year
Historically Chungking (重庆, capital city of China during WWII) aka HMS Aurora, was exactly the same British ship as Huanghe (黄河 Yellow River). After Chungking defected to Communists it was sunk by Nationalist's bombing, and then eventually lifted out of water later and renamed as Huanghe. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Aurora_(12)
Great vid Flamu, looking forward to the Pan-asian cruisers. Especially interested in the Rahmet and Chumphon.
Up next: Russian supership submarine "Balansnik" (year of design: 2022), hypercavitating torps, 50km range, 90k damage each, special talent: mid-range ICBM‘s to straight up win the game.
400mm citadel and 212mm bow armor. 80mm deck armor and no superstructure. Special gimmick is cannot be destroyed by any ICBM nuclear explosion.
Also as small as squirrel.
@@edhikurniawan Make so it has a laser point defense system that destroys any projectile shoot at her, be it missiles, gun rounds, rockest, planes etc. OH and some kind of underwater defense system that destroys any torpedos that came too close dont matter their speed.
I love how they don't even try to justify why are there American and Soviet projects in the Pan-Asian line
How kind of them to give us a whole line specially designed to hone our torpedo dodging skills.
When you realise asashio has more or less the same torpedo potential as the t9 and 10
With the difference that these actually can hit cruisers.
@@MrSchwabentier yeah i considered that, but asashio's reach further and hit harder (until u magically upgrade ur commander and he kindly adds more explosive filler to ur torps)
@@reyclorox Maybe he get more market experience and finds where the better torps are being sold. :)
Some of the didos were armed with 8 113mm due to supply shortages. The model is of the standard 133mm guns. I think the 113mm are now going to by an a hull and the 10 133mm a B Hull
Looking at the guns and layout of the turrets I think Rahmah has 3x2 113mm turrets in the front and 2x2 133mm turrets in the back no matter the hull. Makes sense to save some weight in order to add a third turret on one side, especially that high up.
when Delny gets introduced will there be a buff for Khabarovsk to stay current or will it be a ''dead'' ship?? Something like extra torp range, extra gun range or better turning?
I'm guessing if you own it at the time of it's replacement you'll get a Perma cammo (and maybe they'll change a value or two). It'll be like they did for the Moskva way back
Both the 5.25 and 4.5 inch turrets were heavily in demand on larger vessels and the aluminum used to reduce top side weight on the Didos was also in short supply. For these reasons, Q or X turrets were not fitted when launched on the earlier ships with the missing turret replaced by a 4 in QF gun mounted instead. Some Didos mounted the designed 5.25 in armament and some mounted 4.5 in guns, depending on availability. The 4.5 in armed ships also had B turret mounted on a forward deck house which also supplanted the barbette for X turret.
The mixed armament of 4.5 in and 5.25 in guns, though, is purely a Wargaming fiction.
I don’t get WG. Some of these ships actually were transferred to Asian countries but are not represented
Chung King - real ship.
Rahmat - never existed. But a dido was sent to Pakistan and renamed Babur. (Probably gonna sell it as a premium)
Chumpon - never existed, none of the Atlanta/Oakland class cruisers were sold to any other nation.
Tier 8-10 - usual WG paper ships
New Zealand Got Royalist and I think Bollona. Pakistan and India received a few from various classes as well. The Chinese inherited the one Arethusa class. That was it I believe. BS line.
The entire Thai community is really confused with that Atlanta Chumpon. We have this ship in royal navy force but it’s just a torpedo boat.
I don't play this game any more, but dang, seeing the Delny makes me want to try it out when/if it comes. Khaba was a favorite of mine...
At Tier 5 Furutaka is still king of the cruisers.
BTW, Delny has Yerevan (capital of Soviet Armenia) written over her Hull, meaning a name ship will have ingame
Delny is pretty much a tashkent with upgraded gun and 5x2 10km torp instead of 3x3 4km torp
on rahmat the guns are 2 different sizes 133mm and 113 the 113s are lilely on top
That line will be a really challenge! I like it 😎
Between the Lenin, NC, and Vlad dealing 13.1k citadel damage, life is looking fun for the Harbin
If the Preussen is suppose to be based on H42 or H43 then the main guns should be 48cm/480mm/18.9 inch main guns. Since it says year of design 1945 then it would be H 44 which would be built if it was every going to be with 50.8 cm/508mm/ 20 inch guns with 8 of them. All H class ships were designed with twin gun mounts for the main armaments. With secondary armaments being a blend of 150mm and 105mm guns.
Designed in Germany in 1945? What, by one guy in Berlin with a drafting pencil by candlelight in a bunker? The war was over in May '45?
Pan-Benham line confirmed
as a korean Sejong is one of the best king in the whole history of the korean peninsula.
he made modern laws, like giving people vacations after giving birth, having ppl get 3 judgements before giving them a major punishment.
he died after working too hard without enough sleep.
you can actually pen their citadel with BB HE btw
The tier 9 is using 5in 54s instead of 5in 38s on the Atlanta or US DDs.
range mod for t9 and t10 must have
it is important to know what the detectability will be, this just looks like the Brit light cruisers with better torps and worse main gun range
Its same as what the bogatyr has remember? Thst has 2 sets of guns 152 + 130mm, its gets 130s on ug Hull same principle here i bet sept they will implement it as you can see it gets gun change. As you know bogatyr gets 152s from Hull a and 130mm from hull b
the more and more i see of Pruessen the more im looking forward to finishing the FDG grind the second timd
So is there a special reason why this branch starts at TV? there are multiple actual Chinese or 'Pan-Asian' built protected and amoured Cruisers you could put there.
The t10 PA cruiser seems like a kitakami with working guns. Yeah everyone wanted that
Brandenburg has Rupprecht secondaries if I remember correctly. Its a solid ship. I've been enjoying it quite a bit.
I see dev strikes coming. Both from deepwater torps and those ships exploding from BBs just looking at it
As a British light cruisers main, I think I will love theses ships
That line must have very good concealment to able to do anything lmao
The Sejong looks like she would shoot the bow right off herself with how high it rises and how low the front turret is.
I wonder if they will transfer GK legendary mod. to the new ship? Would be nice if they had some sort of compensation for it.
@@b-17gflyingfortress6 I meant more in terms of her getting a similar legendary mod to GK. It seems like it would really fit her close in brawler playstyle.
i hope they have stealth capabilities or radar will be some major issue
Can we get an F in chat for Montana, the last tech tree battleship that cannot adequately deal with 30mm?
It dont need the overmatched, good ship
Also Colombo has 380s only
Colombo has sap. Point is Montana is the last tech tree that relies on her AP and cannot deal with 30mm. Sure she has HE but it is not her thing, though I have seen some really good games where she relied on it.
@@sorinvonotomo very accurate, long range, for an insane reload, good armor. I'd say it doesn't need it
Well she's still doing great. Unlike the kurfurst who's before being replaced
That new port has been the default port in WoWs legends since day 1 actually. They recently changed it to the Fjords port
The tier IX SE Jong has the same 127 mm/54 Mk.18 guns the Austin has. But no SAP with HE.
Looks like the Rahmat gets 133mm guns on A hull and changes to 113mm on B hull. Not crazy about that tbh.
Chumpon is basically the second Royal Thai Navy ship in the game. Actual Chumpon is a Destroyer FR tho.
Except the guns, that's how I would expect the IJN CL line. Good torpedos, smoke, low HP
New line of pan asian citadelle boats, will be epic. :)
Why even get the flint at this point? If they are going to add a better tech tree version of it?
The Atlanta has more bomb damage and is also lower Tier (T8 and T6 subs have lower HP), so the difference is actually not that much bigger.
why does it say Yerevan on the hull of Delny??
Can we talk about the citadel models that doesn't extend far enough to feed shells to the guns?
It is smart to do so, but not required, especially with the smaller caliber guns
@@danh7411 interesting - does this mean the primary magazines would be within the citadel, with only ready-to-use ammunition near the actual hoists? It seems such a weird engineering decision imo
@@eliotkmiec680 you can look at the blueprints and see that the citadel doesn't extends to under the turret.
Atago also has this btw.
Why do the pan Asian cruisers start at tier V?
Meanwhile the Delny has "EREBAN" written on its hull: aka Yerevan, the Capital of Armenia (in this case, the Armenian SSR).
Guessing the ingame name will be changed to Ereban.
Sejong is pronounced with the English j, which is like the soft g in german or something like a sharp zh
Is that the name from SK Sejong the great class aegis destroyer?
@@jaydenmackenzie9670 I do not know exactly why they named it Sejong, but Sejong the Great is one of the most important people in Korean history, and Koreans pronounce their j like I detailed abive
Why did Delny have Yerevan on the side?
Happy to see we are getting a Dido-class cruiser in the game, too bad it could not have been the Royal Navy branch first.
So it’s a flint without unlimited defensive AA
Imagine platooning with them and putting torps at the same time, jesus.
on the ship is written jerewan. main city of armenia. why it's called Delni?
Sir when will u show us preussen gameplay
honestly i want to play the new line, but i understand that it isnt good for the game
also got 2.2 million credits last night with chkalov in brawl, you can strike every 15-20 seconds doing 10k... balans
Why is it called delny when the russian letters on the side spell Yerevan (capital of Armenia)?
Do we have an idea of detectability of these ships ?
You can literally see those on Dev blog
I'd prefer the option for Hydro instead of the reload booster like Huang He, or the DefAA.
Do you think WG might give cruisers 32 mm at the mid of the ship in the future soon?
when are these gonna be in the game ?
Chumphon? name sake form HTMS Chumphon or Prince of Chumphon?
How do these ships not have a similar HP level to British CL?
so after the subs, this is again a line that is best when countering a push? Which happen all the time....
Do i need to point out that most of the tier 10 ships are late ww2 early 50s ships? WW2 ended in 1945, so 5 or 6 years of ship development in the new atomic age, im not surprised alot of those ships look like they belong in the Cold War. Hell they probably where.
Is it just me, or does the Preussen sit higher than GK?
Does anyone else love what those new soviet ships represent?
The soviets were so incompetend in bilding ships that WG had to take designs from the cold war so the russians can have competitive stuffs to german and british ship designs from WW1.
That is a classy burn 😆
WG released Preussen's Turret Angle so i compared it with similar BBs
Comparison here
() is Rear Turret Angle when its base on 180 degree like Frontal Turret
GK
Frontal Turret : ±145
Rear Turret : ±314 (±134)
Vermont
Frontal Turret : ±146
Rear Turret : ±324 (±144)
Preussen
Frontal Turret : ±150
Rear Turret : ±322 (±142)
Bourgogne
Frontal Turret : ±150
Rear Turret : ±323 (±143)
Conqueror
Frontal Turret : ±143, 141
Rear Turret : ±330 (±150)
Conclusion) Preussen Turret Angle = Bourgogne Turret Angle
Delny, huh? Looks like WarGambling is already paving the way to the eventual addition of Russian RBU-6000 to counter that sub problem they created
Remember the pan asian line has a Fire spammer captain...
I hoped they putting Ninghai and Pinghai maybe they will put them later but im a little dissapointed with that decision
These ships will get nerfed or powercrept at next update, only to be replaced by a premium equivalent. We've seen this page from the Wargambling playbook before
Hey flamu, can you make a commentary of the Druid pls?
The t9 has the Montana ohio secondaries as main armamenr
Oml, the Tier X Pan-Asian cruiser is just a kitakami with those 20 torps on each side but even worse, it actually has usable guns
They set these up and made them them have to stay in brawling range….with the biggest most vulnerable citadels in the game😂
I wouldn’t laugh too much. Their armor scheme may say “brawl me”; but the torps say “I fucking dare you.”
so why with copy pasta? ships from pan-asia mostly buy from russia, usa, or uk. like "Irian" which was bought from Russia with the Sverdlov class model, and etc.
Another year and WOWS will feature anti-ship missiles.
They already have them
It’s called submarine torps
WG already tested internally guided anti ship missiles and hinted those in plans for 2017 - both cameo of Kildin class DD, first russian DDG and mention of "new types of armament"... so if anything, they are over 4 years behind schedule
"Made for hunting destroyers" uses deep water torpedoes
Is the name of the update going to be "free flints"?
I play on the asian server and mainly flint captains just rush and die. Now seeing there are alot and alot of chinese players in the asian server. I pray they don't get a brain and be smart on how they play these ships and just become my free piñatas
cant wait to rush one of these smoked up in my kleber.... 😈
Brandenburg no good? Guess it depends on the captain....My very First match in the boat, just guessing on setup...I got 237k, would've been a bit more but got a kill stolen by a fast DD. Rudder shift a bit high, but hey, its a BB. It's also a very good looking boat on the water. I don't do the 'admiral' bundles but for the base boat price, i'm happy so far.
@@b-17gflyingfortress6 I have both. Brandenburg has better armor, more speed, more guns, more secondaries, little less hp. I saw where Aeroon said he would choose the Tirp because of six degree better firing angles, er,,but that's only if you try to fire ALL the Brandy's guns, if you don't, pretty much the same. Brandy also seems to have better AA. AND,,, for some reason not apparent on paper, Brandy's guns seem more powerful. Like I said, so far so good. I was surprised at how the the secondaries burn down DD's, and especially surfacing subs...deadly. Just don't go feeling omnipotent and take on 4 or five ships at once ;) wink., oh, it may be my imagination but torp angles on Brandy seem a bit better also.
After these comes out suddenly Mogadishu and ibukis will have spike in their survivability....so zao will not get buffs too
j on Sejong pronounce as Jesus J, not Y
Following WG logic, next line should with 12 km radars and ability to push
seems liek we got some kind of deepwater kitakami with these t10 ...ouch