Martin "Four Coffees" is my favorite bitzelberger. Also you are correct about Custodi Lich. Unlike "Taking the Initiative," you cannot "Become the Monarch" if you are already the Monarch.
13:40 - when you sacrifice the Flagstones, you actually draw first and then search. Because the sacrifice and the draw both happen during the resolution of Yuma's triggered ability. Only after resolving it fully can the Flagstones trigger go on the stack. Also 18:40 - its not possible to cast sudden edict after you start discarding and drawing with seasoned pyromancer, but before the tokens enter. All part of the same trigger.
What he’s saying is that, if Sheoldred lets the Seasoned Pyro trigger resolve, he will not be able to respond to the token creation, but if he wanted to respond to the ability, he would have to do it without knowing what Yuma would discard, since discarding and creating the token is part of the same ability, and as such will resolve all at once. Funny enough though, even though the way you guys resolved the situation was technically illegal, it’s likely how I would resolve it if I were playing at a low level sanctioned event. I’d use common sense, and let the Sheoldred player roll back the game action because technically Yuma wasn’t giving enough time to really respond thoroughly. Suuuper long winded response to say that if this was the Pro Tour, it would be a warning for both players, but using common sense, the way you guys played it was fine. Hopefully I cleared some stuff up. (Also, Relic of Progenitus exiles both players graveyards.) Thanks for the great video guys!
@@ulavala3798 we're not playing comp here, in a tournament situation Martin would have resolved this as its ment to be, that's why there's no need to discuss it :)
Game 1: this is an example why I play Ugin, the Spirit Dragon in my Sheoldred deck. It would have exiled all the creatures + W&6 and Bitter Reunion with the minus ability.
Hi im trying to open the link for the decklists but getting an error that the link cannot establish a secure connection. Not sure if it’s me or some setting in my browser i need to check.
I noticed that ''necrodominance'' was not included in the sheoldred list, was this a deliberate choice? if so why? It seems very strong to me with this commander
Spielt die Spiele doch bitte zu Ende. Es ist schade, wenn die Spiele 2 Züge vorher enden, weil man sich gegenseitig zeigt was man auf der Hand hat und/oder Tutoren will. Das nimmt die Spannung raus.
What a pleasure to see some well produced and well played duel commander games on UA-cam. I love your work guys!
Please give them a sub
Lovely to hear, thanks a lot! We'll soon upgrade our microphone again, so it will be even better ;)
Martin "Four Coffees" is my favorite bitzelberger.
Also you are correct about Custodi Lich. Unlike "Taking the Initiative," you cannot "Become the Monarch" if you are already the Monarch.
"four-coffee-bitzelberger" :D
I love this channel, keep going boys. Still waiting for another Goro-Goro deck battle tho haha
Thanks mate, not rooting for new Grixis Queen Marchesa? :D
Yuma is such an interesting deck and I've wanted to see it for a long time. Can't wait to see more games.
Pretty sure we'll bring it up another time, MH3 brought a couple of updates :)
13:40 - when you sacrifice the Flagstones, you actually draw first and then search. Because the sacrifice and the draw both happen during the resolution of Yuma's triggered ability. Only after resolving it fully can the Flagstones trigger go on the stack.
Also 18:40 - its not possible to cast sudden edict after you start discarding and drawing with seasoned pyromancer, but before the tokens enter. All part of the same trigger.
True on the Flagstones. The second is - as you can think - a response to the trigger ;)
What he’s saying is that, if Sheoldred lets the Seasoned Pyro trigger resolve, he will not be able to respond to the token creation, but if he wanted to respond to the ability, he would have to do it without knowing what Yuma would discard, since discarding and creating the token is part of the same ability, and as such will resolve all at once. Funny enough though, even though the way you guys resolved the situation was technically illegal, it’s likely how I would resolve it if I were playing at a low level sanctioned event. I’d use common sense, and let the Sheoldred player roll back the game action because technically Yuma wasn’t giving enough time to really respond thoroughly. Suuuper long winded response to say that if this was the Pro Tour, it would be a warning for both players, but using common sense, the way you guys played it was fine. Hopefully I cleared some stuff up. (Also, Relic of Progenitus exiles both players graveyards.) Thanks for the great video guys!
@@ulavala3798 we're not playing comp here, in a tournament situation Martin would have resolved this as its ment to be, that's why there's no need to discuss it :)
Game 1: this is an example why I play Ugin, the Spirit Dragon in my Sheoldred deck. It would have exiled all the creatures + W&6 and Bitter Reunion with the minus ability.
Good point! There are definitely a lot of includes to think of, especially now with MH3! :)
Martin stand up Comedian!
Always is :D
Hi im trying to open the link for the decklists but getting an error that the link cannot establish a secure connection. Not sure if it’s me or some setting in my browser i need to check.
Works fine for me?
I noticed that ''necrodominance'' was not included in the sheoldred list, was this a deliberate choice? if so why? It seems very strong to me with this commander
The sessions were recorded prior to MH3 release, but I agree, it should/could be included!
Cactus for the win !
Powerful land in the right deck :D
@@bitzelberg Eris and Octavia proved that theory long time ago. 😂
I wouldn't even crack the fetch with urborg out , unnecessary damage
True!
Hello ! I beleive forge says target creature. Can't go to forge without a target
Which card are you talking about? :D
Incorrect. You go to a dungeon room, then it's ability triggers. You will advance into the Forge, then the triggered ability will fizzle.
@@MasterDecoy1W oh ok, thx for the correction
Spielt die Spiele doch bitte zu Ende. Es ist schade, wenn die Spiele 2 Züge vorher enden, weil man sich gegenseitig zeigt was man auf der Hand hat und/oder Tutoren will. Das nimmt die Spannung raus.
Fair enough, will keep in mind :) I think it was an act of frustration, when you just DON'T get to finish the game in your favour!