Gold & Gold: Accuphase based C-2860+ Plus Musymys preamp first look!

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 47

  • @edverbeek6292
    @edverbeek6292 День тому +9

    Looking forward to your comparison of power amp clones

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@edverbeek6292 yes that's coming when I'll get through all I got during recent sales. Believe it or not, but I still have some to cover and some more are on the way here :)

  • @neo4bremen
    @neo4bremen День тому +3

    Thank you very much, I was waiting for you to present the preamp. I've had the 2860plus for a few weeks and am thrilled with the incredible sound quality. There's something special that I didn't expect in this price range. Absolutely fantastic preamp. I put a mark on the front of the powerlevel button so that you can see what level it is currently on.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@neo4bremen Thanks for sharing!

  • @hcr2ligna83
    @hcr2ligna83 4 години тому +2

    Nice chunk of overkill! Love it🤩
    Next first look US ARC PRT-13?🙏🙃
    I would really like to know if it matches or even succeeds the Cary SLP-90 before the prices are going up😅 waiting as patiëntly as possible.. so not very😂 12au7 psvane art series are hunting my dreams haha

  • @peter.pan53
    @peter.pan53 22 години тому +2

    Seit September 2024 besitze ich 2 dieser Geräte. Das eine läuft nun in der Hauptanlage und hat eine Röhren Vorstufe ohne Fernbedienung abgelöst. Das zweite Gerät habe ich in Reserve gekauft. Ich erwarte in Zukunft mehr Importbeschränkungen für chinesische Waren.
    Ohne eine länger Laufzeit vor der Nutzung klingt das Gerät hart und hat wenig dritte Dimension. Hier war ich von meiner Röhre vorher verwöhnt.
    Mit der Zeit ändert sich alles in das positive um !
    Es ist einer der wenigen Verstärker aus China der 6 Eingänge hat ! Normal gibt es meist nur 4 Eingänge. Die 3 XLR Eingänge lassen sich ohne Probleme mit einem Adapter zu Chinch umwandeln. Was mir fehlt ist eine kleine LED im Lautstärkeregler, die mir die Position des Lautstärkeregler darstellt. Auch wäre eine Kopfhörerbuchse nicht verkehrt.
    Man bekommt hier sehr viel Gegenwert für sein Geld. Der kleinste Vorverstärker der Orginal-Firma fängt erst bei 7000 Euro an. Ich bin sehr zufrieden mit dem Gerät!

    • @peter.pan53
      @peter.pan53 21 годину тому +1

      Nachtrag: Der Balanceregler regelt anders, als wir es hier in Europa gewöhnt sind. Da es beide Geräte so machen, ist es kein Montagefehler. Regelt man nach rechts - wird der rechte Kanal leiser. Erst mal sehr iritierend zu anderen europäischen Geräten.

    • @neo4bremen
      @neo4bremen 16 годин тому

      @@peter.pan53 hello peter. same with my device. is a great preamp!

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +2

      Thanks for sharing!
      Yes I'm afraid the prices will go up and that's why I was stockpiling stuff during this year's sales. It's amazing that you got two of them but I get that, when I love something I also buy 2 or even 3 units just to be sure I will have another one in case of some irreversible damage :)

  • @gerardjoye5033
    @gerardjoye5033 10 годин тому +1

    I wonder how this one will compare in SQ with the Accuphase C245 preamplifier (albeit the c245 is a bit cheaper with no tone controls)?

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  7 годин тому +1

      Me too. C245 is great and I hope this one to be even better :)

  • @Rocker6969
    @Rocker6969 20 годин тому +2

    What do you think about preamp built-in or separate preamp and Poweramp ? What is your top preamp built-in ? What is your top preamp and power amp for beautiful/fun music with a great soundstage ?

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@Rocker6969 wow a lot of questions:)
      I always go for separates as this gives me best flexibility. So far from the ones I've tested, best preamp is Cary SLP-90 and the best pairing that also happens to best cloned power amp I've tested so far is D5PRO, DartZeel clone. Check my reviews for both if you haven't seen them already

  • @pkal244
    @pkal244 День тому +2

    I wish you turned the volume knob on camera. That input selector was loud as hell.
    Thanks for the video.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +2

      @@pkal244 I'll remember to do that for full review. I myself actually liked the input selector. It gave me very "solid" feel if you know what I mean. You need to use some force and then it gets precisely in the right position.
      You can also switch inputs via remote, then the only sound is relay switching

  • @phillipmorris9847
    @phillipmorris9847 День тому +2

    this could be the 1, looks great and if it turns out to be completely neutral will be a perfect tool for comparisson.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +2

      @@phillipmorris9847 I have very high hopes for that one and a75 as together they have every single functionality I would ever need.
      But they also need to have the best sound quality as that's the most important thing for me

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street 22 години тому +1

    Can we get a peek under the transformer covers?

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@Pete.across.the.street probably, for the full review if there will be no problems with disassembly. I'll try to remember:)

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 20 годин тому +1

    Did I miss the remote control or didn't you show it? I have high hopes for this one to be good.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +2

      @@D1N02 I think I forgot about it. Take a look at my UA-cam posts - I've got some photos of that remote. It's full, solid metal build.
      On par with best brands out there.
      Bests all my other remotes and it's as sturdy and well built as my Abrahamsen amp remote (also solid metal brick)

    • @D1N02
      @D1N02 5 годин тому +1

      @k4syx and just volume and source select. Nothing to confuse the brain

  • @gozitan5
    @gozitan5 День тому +4

    Thanks.

  • @DrFlippin
    @DrFlippin 19 годин тому +3

    😣Without even seeing the inside of this clone or listening to it, I am disappointed by the manufacturer's lack of attention to the labeling on the front of this beautiful gold Accuphase-inspired preamp. Appreciating the nicely lit VU meters and brushed metal, all contained in a quality thick aluminum covering... one glance at the lettering immediately sours me. The lettering is awful - the choice of type/font (serif) with terrible spacing between the characters pretty much screams 'FAKE'. The problem is not only on the printing on the front glass but also for the controls. And why did the manufacturer use 2 different font styles? the 'input selector' and 'volume' are labeled using serif font, while the labeling over all of the lower placed knobs uses sans-serif. I'm getting used to the position of the bass and treble controls to be reversed on many Chinese audio products but the labelling is 'amateur'.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@DrFlippin yes the fonts are weird :)
      These are done in small workshops as DIY builds, in this context this one looks like a Ferrari as it's not just a rectangular box with just a few knobs ;D

  • @poyocru
    @poyocru 23 години тому +2

    Analog Vu meter ❤️

  • @aussie8114
    @aussie8114 День тому +2

    Looks pretty decent inside, but not close to my real Accuphase E4000.

    • @Pete.across.the.street
      @Pete.across.the.street 22 години тому +4

      I wouldn't think it would since it's not an integrated. Thanks for the brag though😅

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@aussie8114 these are completely different units, I'd like to compare head to head for example A75 clone with real one. Both for build and sound:)

  • @sginfdfw
    @sginfdfw 21 годину тому +1

    Definitely looking forward to your review of this preamp with the A75 clone. My end game setup is Class A and fully balanced input-output topology. I really like Class A sound.
    I am also interested in your recommendation for op-amp replacement - considering soldering a dip socket for op-amp rolling

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@sginfdfw I'm gonna get dip8 socket here, as this is no brainer to be able to replace that 5532 from tone controls. And I do have high hopes for combo with A75 :)

  • @cesarjlisboa7586
    @cesarjlisboa7586 День тому +2

    Looks interesting. I want to listening from your listening observation, and some measurements.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@cesarjlisboa7586 yes my listening impressions will be in the full review, however I don't have any measuring equipment available. Just a basic set of tools but nothing for THD, SNR,DNR, spectrum etc

    • @cesarjlisboa7586
      @cesarjlisboa7586 16 годин тому +1

      @@k4syx it’s okay. No worries

  • @paolo61hifi
    @paolo61hifi Годину тому

    Giocattoli per chi cerca arredamento per casa....un qualsiasi ampli professionale in classe d lo fa scomparire..😂

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 День тому +6

    Most of components are fake components, capacitor sleeve are printed nichicon but they are not Japanese. Transistor also fake , i bought a lot of parts, transistor was marked with printed, so beware of that , Renesas Mosfet for example for audio can not be bought in Europe, they sell it only to Japanese audio industry.
    We have a company that buy a lot of semiconductor from Japan but some parts they denied to sell out of Japan.

    • @bertroost1675
      @bertroost1675 22 години тому +1

      The Japanese really protect their stuff.

    • @neo4bremen
      @neo4bremen 16 годин тому +2

      doesen´t matter, this device sounds amazing. Quality build ist great also the remote.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@paulpaulzadeh6172 yes that would be very true not so long ago. But these amps and preamps are built from legit parts. To be specific: I was sure that Mundorfs used in JC2 preamp that I've reviewed were fake. But Christian Schwartzbeck from friendly German channel reached to Mundorf directly and they had confirmed them to be real. Apparently Chinese customers are importing a lot of real stuff (with good prices as they order big lots of parts).
      So as long as two years, year ago I was on the same boat, I think that had changed. At least for these as I am sure you can still find tons of cheap gear built on fakes.

  • @hifirulezzz
    @hifirulezzz День тому +1

    Two transformers and 60,000uF to power 20 mA circuit? 🤦‍♂️

    • @hifirulezzz
      @hifirulezzz День тому +1

      Also,you mentioned glue on LED and did not mention dozen of screws not fully in?

    • @johnshaw359
      @johnshaw359 19 годин тому +3

      They are trying to keep AC noise and ripple to a minimum. This is an over-engineered preamp that's the whole of it costing £700....£7000+ elsewhere.

    • @hifirulezzz
      @hifirulezzz 19 годин тому +1

      @@johnshaw359 That has no any logical sense. To avoid ripples I would install multi-values, Like 100 uF for low frequencies and 0.1 uF and maybe even 0.01 uF to remove high frequencies noise from the supply rails.

    • @johnshaw359
      @johnshaw359 19 годин тому +3

      @@hifirulezzz Do you see the a mount of local regulation. The main power supply 'laughing' at the load is audiophile grade PSU stuff. No dynamic compromise and low noise is the aim of a high end preamp as you know.

    • @k4syx
      @k4syx  16 годин тому +1

      @@hifirulezzz the screws are like that on purpose, they are cutting some corners. There should be some spacers with appropriate length.