Best "Willard" Homage? Check out this Addiesdive!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Addiesdive Willard homage! This review covers what you need to know. Is this better than the Steeldive which often costs more? Come and watch this review to find out!
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NOTE. spec error. 20mm lug width NOT the 22mm I accidently put! sorry guys.
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Thanks for spotting my typo with the spec. 20mm lug width on this watch, NOT 22mm! Thanks to all who helped x
I think both Addiesdive and Steeldive manufacture in the exact same factory in China with same the materials. This is essentialy the same watch with a different brand name. Very nice for the money
see alleged relationship between steeldive, addiesdive and heimdallr here: www.reddit.com/r/ChineseWatches/comments/jsmi2v/steeldive_addiesdive/
Steel dive was the original Addie's dive was a friend at the owner of steel dive helped him get going and then they had a falling out but with all those micro brand companies they always outsource the manufacturing to some company in China so it probably is the same
The lume on this watch looks better on the steeldive, but I also have addiesdive watchs that are great as well. Both are sweet
I've seen both close up and I bought the Steeldive. For not much more money it's better in almost every way except the movement. The lume is better, the brushing is better, the dial is better, the logo is better and the date complication lines up correctly. Seems like small things, but when you add them all up and realize it's only $20 difference you'll find it's worth the cost of a couple of fast food lunches to get the better watch. I've also seen the Addiesdive and Steeldive tunas together, the same thing applies.
Firstly, your use of the specifications montage with animation and sound is so much better that other review channels that just print everything at the bottom of the screen.
Secondly, as you were asking in a recent poll about the type of watches we want to see, I am enjoying your budget reviews from both Aliexpress and the more common name brands. Cheers.
Got the Steeldive version of this watch and they're virtually the same. It's actually offering incredible value for the money. OK 1.0 ms of beat error on your copy isn't great. But i'm pretty sure the lug width is 20! 😉 When people start ordering the 22 mm version of the straps for it they might get pretty disappointed! 😬
Hey Alexander ... I also got the Steeldive (and have watched dozens of universally positive reiews) and agree it is fantastic- I'd say MUCH better value for money than the Seiko $1k reissue.
@@karlsenula9495 Hey Karl, couldn't agree more. I'm not a Seiko hater but they disgrace themselves with this cash grab. And their watches rather have more than less QC issues! 😂
@@AlexanderB... yeah I've watch Gary's videos of the vintage Seikos and the value there is great - even those quartz .. and I'm also not a Seiko hater .. I own a couple and am interested in a couple more (like the iced blue pressage)
@@karlsenula9495 Even if I could have afforded the re-issue, they changed the case diameter. They made it smaller! The only one with the same size case was the 2500 unit re-issue for $4000!
If you want a really good quality homage I can recommend the Heimdallr Custom Made Vintage Mechanical Diver, comes with an Swiss made ETA 2824 hi beat movement, domed sapphire crystal without the blue hue AR coating and an aluminium bezel insert. Blows the re-issue Seko out of the water and costs just £250 Not that there's anything wrong with the Steeldive, started with one of those and they are very good value
I have the Addiesdive Tuna homage and love it - with over 40 watches in my collection I wear it weekly. I also have two Steeldives (including the willard homage) and also love the look and value - I also wear those much more than many other of my watches.
These are great for the collection as a versatile cheap watch that looks decent!
@@watchmewithwatches ... your channel is the one that introduced me to Steeldive - so a HUGE thank you for that (wearing my Steeldive bronze fifty -fathoms homage today).
@@karlsenula9495 that's great! They offer such fun watches for the cash. What's next Karl?......
@@watchmewithwatches Heimdallr V1 red monster and red dial Orient Kamasu (both my first Heimdallr and first Orient) ... also looking at the Duka Aqua Timer from Aliexpress and the Thorn GMT ... but I want to see some in hand reviews of those first.
@@karlsenula9495 kamasu is gorgeous 😍
Preferred the steeldive because of the package 1.one of the best Willard homages 2. The great watch box 3. Both straps included so it's worth the extra price
Just ordered the steeldive with bracelet for £79 including vat and delivery. Can't wait to see it in the flesh. 🙂
I had a Steeldive Willard and now have an Addiesdive/Steeldive pilot. Imo they are coming from the same factory and there are no discernable differences apart from the price.
I managed to get my steeldive Willard for £71 and change on a waffle and love the thing, doesn't look like there's much of a difference here,crazy value if you can't pick up the steeldive for that price but begs the question,why are addiesdive watches so low priced compared to steeldive 🤔 so strange 😂,great vid 🙂👍
I have this addiesdive watch. It's one of my favourites at the moment. I think I hit the jackpot with mine as it's accuracy is fabulous, only 3 seconds fast a day. That's better than my Seiko's with the same movement. Yes, the AR coating is a little wierd, but it's grown on me.
At last the day has come, finally. I'm really looking forward to watching this review, whether it's positive or negative. This was my first real mechanical, since then I bought another two from Addiesdive, the MM300 and the sumo. My personal considerations are positive. However Im eager to know your concept. Great channel. Regarding your shorts survey about the channel direction so to speak, my opinion is just keep being a smart bridge between European, Japanese and Chinese watch brands. Don't let some people mislead you from this. Chinese manufacturers know they will need sooner or later start designing their own pieces mainly due to copyright issues if they want to sell their goods to Western markets. Is not unthinkable some sort of "Huwaei blockage" if they carry on making homages in the way they have keep doing.
I agree, there is so much value to me with original designs or heritage inspired reissues as well. Variety is very important!
@@watchmewithwatches agree but often there is BETTER value for money in some of the homages (i.e. American - Long Island Watch Islanders with better specs than the Seikos they are homaging - and frankly I don't hear anyone in the watch community griping about Mark homaging Seikos ... cough cough .. double standard???). This Steeldive/Addiesdive is also in my opinion one of those cases.
I do get the appreciation for original designs but do you really want to spend 3-10x the price (new Willard is running around $1k) for the design and the name for worse specs and QC issues - alignment? Some may but I don't ... i like the looks of watches and want to get the best value for money watches I can afford regardless of the name. That is what makes watch collecting great - so much variety, choices and options for everyone's preferences.
Excellent review Dan. I just had a very impressive watch delivered last week. The new colour yellow dial Steeldive 1975 Tuna on a very nice yellow rubber strap. Better bezel action than any of my Seiko watches. The equivalent cost to me was £86 including tax. I haven't been able to take it off. + 6 spd on mine. Lume is excellent and you can still see it at 6am in the dark. If you haven't reviewed one I'd highly recommend it. I didn't bother with geting the bracelet as it's got straight end lugs, the rubber looks stunning. Not kidding, this is the first watch I've ever had that people look at twice and ask questions about. Plus it's got a real summer look about it.
I recently bought one unbranded and stuck it on a camouflage NATO strap and it looks pretty tough
I agree with you about the AR. The problem is the AR is applied on both sides of the crystal.
The waffle strap was on the watch Martin Sheen wore in Apocalypse Now.
I got my Steeldive and must say i am impressed the quality the accuracy of the rotating bezel, the lume etc.Ok cost me £124 on Amazon.But beats the £1050 Seiko price as the Willard is going up in price.
This watch should win the "world best bang for buck", ever. Really really nice.
Not far off. I still think the cadisem c1032, and the escapement time King seiko homage are incredible pieces for the money. Maybe this is the best auto diver style watch under £100?
This is one of my fave beta watches fantastic watch for the money
The Misalignments are within Seiko specs 😂
Lol! Better infact
There's going to be a lot of comparisons with this watch to the steel dive (I do wonder if they come out of the same factory) but at this price it's a bit of a no brainer. I've had the steel dive for about a year now. You can't knock it. It's a cracking watch. If Addiesdive is the same quality, they're going to make a killing.
I picked up the steel dive for 62 euro last month and love it, I too have swapped out the bracelet to a quick release waffle. I prefer the steel dive to my San Martin kanagawa wave dial version.
I just got a Steeldive a couple of days ago I haven’t had a it on a grapher yet but it’s working great and I think it’s better quality than my real Sekio!
It's very common to hear that!
@@watchmewithwatches I am serious. I have a Seiko PADI Turtle that was nearly $500 with tax, its home in a drawer and I’m wearing my Steeldive! :)
Great review, I have only just found out about this watch & it's heritage, I think I will go for the Steeldive as everyone I know with one has raved about them & for only a few $ more I think it's worth it, cheers.
That's ridiculously good value!! Excellent review, very well done. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi nice review 👍
Really love your channel its to the point and always fair in your opinions.
I've got the Addies Dive Tuna 300m and I'm quite happy with it. It's fairly accurate and mostly it lines. I changed the bracelet with a 5 mm thick bracelet and a mild clasp.
I like a heavy-duty watch and it weighs in at 234 grams
Thanks mate, 😊
I paid $88US for my Steeldive during the last sale. I love it. This one would have to be pretty good to beat it.
I have the sterile dial version. It is one of my favorite watches and definitely one of the best values I've got. I paid less than $80 and I've kept it on the bracelet it came on, though I did swap the clasp for a milled one.
I agree, just the clasp is is a bit cheap really. Nice easy upgrade! 👌
Why is a milled clasp better plz
@@suheilkaspar8885 I don't think it is always better. I have a few watches that the pressed clasp they came with were pretty well made and I have not bothered changing them. I recall this one not feeling very solid so I bought a milled one and replaced it. I think in general a milled clasp looks better and feels more solid. The looks may not matter to some, you can't see it when its on anyway.
Nice one. The Steel Dive Willard is going to be my first Mod. I'm going to use the Namoki Kanagawa Dial to pay homage to Seiko. Hopefully I don't mess it up!!
If you've going to do a mod on this one I'll wait to see the master at work.
Hi Heath, I think that will look great. You have inspired me. When back from holiday, I'm going to plan a few mod videos (to build the how 2 playlist) and this is a great platform to Work with.
I think those are all fair observations but I don’t care, it’s a great watch for 70 quid! I slung mine on a seventies style rubber strap and it good to go. A banging watch that is more than the sum of its parts
dam you will be making a movie soon for these reviews )) great content I have an Addiesdive great lume on mine 1986 Leather For Men NATO Nylon Steel diving watch 200m C3Super luminous Sport luxury stainless steel watch Quartz Men's Watch their great value
Got the same one nice for the money
Nice one! Good to hear I wasn't just lucky with mine
Nice review and a great way of showing the stats and specs.
Is the caseback swappable with any seiko caseback?
Cool intro man, loved it. The prices are amazing, how can they do it this cheap!!
Thanks! It was fun to make. I think its down to many things, not just cheap labour, but we are buying these items at almost wholesale prices!
I’ve got the steeldive version. They both look the same.
I actually like the Addisdive logo better.
Great watches for the cash.
Great price point for what it does 👍
I’ve got this exact one. Definitely 20mm lugs though mate!
Thanks mate, slip of the old finger when typing!
@@watchmewithwatches great review as always! Spot on about this beast on a NATO too, adds way too much CHONK. And takes away from just how comfortably this case shape wears.
Love the new way of presenting specs!
Me too, its shorter, more to the point and fun to edit. Thanks!
@@watchmewithwatches and it looks great!
I just received the steeldive version and love it
Also ordered a black tropic and a mesh bracelet from you
Thanks John, nice additions to the strap collection! 👍
Best watch reviewer!😊
Not sure how you can criticise the handset when it's basically identical to the original Seiko. BTW the Steeldive is now £81 from AliExpress (inclusive of UK VAT).
I still feel the handset could be wider
@@watchmewithwatches Sounds like another modding project! Have you seen the new 'Tactical Frog' range and the Shirryu 'Thorn' GMT with compass bezel in the Heimdallr AliExpress store? They look interesting if you can get past the names.
@@slyfondle1885 I've got the tactical frog, picking it up Thursday! Won't be long for a review....
You didn't mention the undercut flanks. It helps it "fit smaller" as one bends one's wrist backwards. One of my favorite features.
I agree, excellent point
What is undercut flanks ?
@@goodlifebdg The sides of the case are not vertical-they taper inwards as they approach your wrist.
I am with you on the Addiesdive Willard, like it a whole lot!!! Question: thinking of changing the bezel. Would the Seiko SKX007 type, flat bezel insert fit? Thank you!!!
I just ordered this model from Steel Dive. The reason was they sell it with PT5000 movement. I wrote the seller that I specially want that version. I hope this isn't a misunderstanding. They took off that option a day later...so I might end up with the trusty NH35A. We'll see.
If I can ask, why would you want that instead of an NH35?
@@DanaTheInsane I have 3 watches with NH35A. I'm curious and wanted to have a cheap high beat movement watch.
I got the PT5000 version 👍👌😎
28800 bph, smooth swipe.
I'm feeling happy right now 😁
I just ordered a steel dive because they had a version with no logo at all.
The prices shown in the YT front page, is that the price from the UK dealer or price from the Aliexpress shop?
Im gonna cop one just to drop a seiko dial in it.
Clever idea, what one would you put in?
I have done that, had it now for 8 months, use it as my everyday beater. Also on my motorcycle riding, because of the curved edges it is wery confy to my arm. After 3 mont of use i regulatet the movement, and now it gains 3 seconds in a week. Timegraphing a brand new movement is useless, it has to break in a few weeks first.
Seems pretty solid for under 100. Not a huge fan of the two-tone lume but it still is pretty impressive for the price.
Good point, very solid for the cash. Chunky and feels well made for sure.
@@watchmewithwatches Its heavier than my PADI Turtle! I still can’t believe that!
I have this watch and love it. How does the addies quartz sub compare quality wise?
Sorry to say but if you paid that much for the Steeldive, you got ripped. I got one on the black waffle for less than 77 quid including VAT.
And currently the Addiesdive version is over 200 Sovs before VAT.
it was named after an old diver named Addie?
Which watches do u prefer - this or same one by san martin?
San martin is lovely for the money, for sure
Great review!
Hi If the price difference between the 2 is say no more than £20 would you go for the Steeldive? Also Steeldive have brought out a version with the PT5000 for around £115. Is it worth a punt?
I've had both and not been dissapointed. It's down to your budget and if you want a pt5000 movement as well. Regards, Dan.
I ordered the black faced version, but I’ve now been sent twice from Amazon, a dark blue faced AddiesDive Willard, with black bezel. I don’t know what’s going on. Anyone running into this?
just unboxed my AD "willard" and was a little underwhelmed at the smallness of the dial- I'm glad you mentioned that aspect, I thought I was going cuckoo. 😀 I suppose I was expecting a gigantic sundial to pop out of the box. are the real willards that small? 🤔
I bought the Steeldive with the sterile blue dial ‘cause I never wanted to have the ‘what’s a Steeldive’ conversation.
I paid US$106 for the watch on the bracelet and a matching navy Tropic strap.
It is great for what it is, a hundred buck knock-around watch that wouldn’t break my heart if it stopped or got stolen . . .
It's such a beast. I think I've mentioned these watches a lot over my time because they are hard to really fault for the money.
Good review thanks !
Thanks for watching!
the watch band is 20mm not 22mm......
Aren't Steeldive and Addiesdive the same watch factory?
I'm not sure, can't get a definitive answer 🤔
99 bucks with the waffle rubber strap,103 bucks with metal clasp as of 3-16-23
Wicth better steeldive or addiesdive?
wondering that is there any baby tuna homage on Ali ?
Good question, hmmm
Worth a look around.....
Does it hack?
I am perhaps a bit old to fully understand all this but would love to get into low-priced watches. I don't know exactly where to look and what I need to do or set up in order to receive a watch and I also have no idea what to do when someone says click the link. A bit more of the basics would help me.
A homage of a homage?Maybe I missed something but is this a division of steel dive??The name and the logo are blatant rip-offs.Price is good but that pressed clasp annoys me.
Addiesdive or steeldive for you?
Overall considering the whole range they offer? Steeldive for sure.
First?
Thanks!
That movement should be better, both in terms of accuracy and beat error. Seems like a lot to pay for a watch that’s poorly adjusted.
To be fair, its not bad for a bargain watch thrown together in China.
I think there made at the same shop.
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