My in-laws have lived in the Grove for 80 years. And my father-in-law as unofficial “warden” of the Grove installed a series of wooden bollards on the payment near the dog-leg in the Grove - a few remain- to prevent vehicles encroaching on & damaging the payment. Have lost count of the number of times I’ve struck those bollards in my various cars over past 50+ years!!
The building you said was Rose cottage wasn't, Rose cottage was situated at the bottom of Hesketh st of left hand side, i know this as my father owned the cottage, it was three single rooms on top of each other, The cottage had been demolished and turned into a backyard for the last house on right of hadassah grove. That is why there is a driveway in Newland close that goes nowhere, it provided access to the cottage.
You missed the green plaque on number 17 Hadassah Grove that explains the origin of the name. Timber merchant John Wilson Williams bought the land from the eatate of a deceased corn merchant (John Gibnons) to build the street and named it after his wife Sophia Hadassah Williams, formerly Diggles, who he married in 1831.
Brilliant info cheers if i knew it was there id have stopped by it I may at some point do a re visit here as im getting some brilliant info about this place Thanks for watching and the info
To be fair, just watched it again and there is vegetation covering the plaque on the wall. Go to 3 minutes 9 seconds on the video and the plaque is on the wall to the left of the doorway you're looking at, but behind the veg.
Well done, chaps. I find this very interesting. I'm researching the long Regency England. I think the oldest house is the black and white one. It was built during the Reign of our King William IV. Thank you. Mrs D in Yorkshire. 😊
Hi George and Eric, this was a blast from the past. l remember delivering the Mersey Mart with my daughter a very long time ago. l forgot it was there. You can easily pass it without knowing it was a road with lovely old buildings 👍
Such beautiful buildings. Just watching you walk down there is brilliant. I have not walked in that area. Maybe it is time to visit areas that i lived near as a child. I remember my mother talking about the big houses and rich families but in those days it was two different worlds. Xxx
Going to make a statement ... wow did not think stuff like this existed any more . I watch another video of yours . Foy d tou by accident . I am giving you very top marks , for your finds and posts . You are going to get 1000 / 1000 . For your finds . This stuff deserves very high marks . Shropshire lad . 😊
I remember marantos was the place to be yonks ago all my mates used to rave about it is it really that good? You probably wont see eric for ages now he pops up when he wants ha ha
George have you looked at north drive and south drive off mill lane in wavertree? It was a gated area years ago, huge houses, one has giant stone dogs on each side of the main door.
@@g2emedia1977 Are there Mews houses in Liverpool? All the ones in London used to be stables for the horses and cart drivers/chauffeurs for the bigger houses.
Is it any good ive never been and i may try it one day Mad how i grew up in surrounding areas and never even bothered with this place its quite nice i like it....not really a fan of eating on the road though lol Thanks for watching matey
I grew up in the Lane, my Grandmother lived in the first house on the left in Hadassah Grove, there was was never a Kharkiv sign in the 60s/70s, it would be interesting to find how that got there.
Lordy people who bought last but one house at the bottom on right totally did not get the vibe of the place and should have moved somewhere else…… Great vid
The barbers isn’t shut down, got my hair cut there 2 weeks ago! Paul has been there for well over 50 years… he could teach you a thing or two about the Lane
Hi George How can I email you to chat with you about something amazing ,I’m local and recently found something that needs exploring but I need to go into a lot of detail but not on here?
What a Beauty. I didn't even know this was there. They would have been people of substance that lived in some of those Houses mate. I wonder if it was some sort of Jewish community back in the day? On the street names HADASSAH is a Girls name in Hebrew & KHARKIV is a city in The Ukraine. Places like that are just full of character.
@@therespectedlex9794If you've ever watched Fiddler On The Roof (and if not why not, great musical!) that was based on stories that were set in the Pale of Settlement, an area of Western Russia where Jews were allowed to settle. Not exclusively Ukraine but parts of Ukraine would certainly have fallen within the Pale of Settlement before it was disbanded, and the Jewish population there is recorded as up to 35% in 1884. So Kharkiv must have been within the same Pale of Settlement area. Amazing to think someone in Liverpool was trading with someone there nearly 200 years ago.
Interesting to see so many of the houses had their windows bricked up and once bricked up ,had not installed windows.I wonder if this was a result of The Window Tax ( Perhaps a Conservative government will bring back ) .I wonder how many people living in these houses fell ill as a consequence. The window tax was a property tax in England and Wales from 1696 to 1851 that was based on the number of windows in a house. It was also introduced in Scotland in 1748 and repealed in both countries in 1851. The tax was intended to reflect a property owner's prosperity and ensure that people paid taxes based on their income. It consisted of two parts: Flat rate: Two shillings per house, which is about £15 in modern terms Variable rate: Based on the number of windows in the property The tax was unpopular and caused a national outcry, with some believing the term "daylight robbery" originated at this time. People became more susceptible to diseases such as cholera, small pox, and typhus without adequate lighting and ventilation, and a popular campaign against the tax began to gain strength. Some people even bricked up their windows to avoid paying the tax. A motion to repeal the tax failed by three votes in April 1850, but a national campaign throughout 1850 and 1851 eventually led to its repeal in 1851. 😮
Couldn`t have much of an outcry if the tax existed for 155 years before it was repealed lol...A lot of them were bricked-up purely because as people got wealthier over the years they wanted to put more furniture like wardrobes and bookcases against the walls and hang paintings on them too.
You need to be tuned into the scouse youtube subtitles are useless Ill break it down for you... 2 men explore one of liverpools oldest roads one says wow then says hidden gem the other says wow then 2 men leave Thanks for watching...
Great history tour. Loved it. I must have passed this a few times. The road name sounded biblical ? Just googled it. It's a girls name of hebrew origin. Meaning myrtle tree ( peace )
Do some food reviews from Lark Lane. Plenty of good food and reasonable prices when you consider the price of a McDonald's these days. Meat Me (Greek) Yum Cha (Chinese) Elif (Turkish). Plenty of others but they are my go to.
Sounds like a plan that i am doing a few maybe this week and the chinese sounds good Do you have any foods which are nice to order or recommend any from the chinese or i dont mind even trying turkish
Beautiful area, lovely houses, love the old gate posts and the plant pots, too. Thanks 😊❤
Excellent video, we lived in number 14, 1967/8 until 1970 thanks . George and Eric.
Brilliant thanks for the info and thanks for watching
Great to see oldest steets in liverpool great to see past and present very interesting to watch great video
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video i live anything like this
My in-laws have lived in the Grove for 80 years. And my father-in-law as unofficial “warden” of the Grove installed a series of wooden bollards on the payment near the dog-leg in the Grove - a few remain- to prevent vehicles encroaching on & damaging the payment. Have lost count of the number of times I’ve struck those bollards in my various cars over past 50+ years!!
Wow thats brilliant info cheers didnt know it had a warden
further proof Liverpool is the absolute top. lovely tour, cheers Mate.
Thanks very much for watching
@ naturally!
Another nice little mooch mate - love the old hidden places in Liverpool!
Thanks mate id never heard of this place until last week it really is a little gem
Thanks for watching matey
Never knew it existed its beautiful ❤
A little gem isnt it
@@g2emedia1977 beautiful.
I used to be a cleaner for one of the big houses as you first go into Hadassah grove, it was like upstairs downstairs inside!
Lovely houses indeed arent they
@@g2emedia1977but if you're a cleaner it's like hoovering Wembley stadium 😁
A gem of a find
The building you said was Rose cottage wasn't, Rose cottage was situated at the bottom of Hesketh st of left hand side, i know this as my father owned the cottage, it was three single rooms on top of each other,
The cottage had been demolished and turned into a backyard for the last house on right of hadassah grove.
That is why there is a driveway in Newland close that goes nowhere, it provided access to the cottage.
Thanks for the info just going off old maps thought it was still there
You missed the green plaque on number 17 Hadassah Grove that explains the origin of the name. Timber merchant John Wilson Williams bought the land from the eatate of a deceased corn merchant (John Gibnons) to build the street and named it after his wife Sophia Hadassah Williams, formerly Diggles, who he married in 1831.
Brilliant info cheers if i knew it was there id have stopped by it
I may at some point do a re visit here as im getting some brilliant info about this place
Thanks for watching and the info
To be fair, just watched it again and there is vegetation covering the plaque on the wall. Go to 3 minutes 9 seconds on the video and the plaque is on the wall to the left of the doorway you're looking at, but behind the veg.
worked in that road ,lovely houses
Well done, chaps. I find this very interesting. I'm researching the long Regency England. I think the oldest house is the black and white one. It was built during the Reign of our King William IV. Thank you. Mrs D in Yorkshire. 😊
Hi George and Eric, this was a blast from the past. l remember delivering the Mersey Mart with my daughter a very long time ago. l forgot it was there. You can easily pass it without knowing it was a road with lovely old buildings 👍
Hi martin thats brilliant i bet this place hasnt changed since you used to go there
Thanks for watching matey
@g2emedia1977 You know it hasn't the road always remember uneven but some of the house looked better 👍
I was born in Liverpool but now live in Formby. Watching videos like yours makes me wanna live in south Liverpool.
I like formby its too far out for me lol
@@g2emedia1977 Too far out while simultaneously being too far in fella. 🤣
I’m from Liverpool but now live on the Wirral as my wife from here. Some beautiful places over here untouched. No regrets moving over.
What a lovely road and houses, hi to Eric nice to see him out, great interesting video George xx
One of the best ive seen so well hidden to
Thanks for watching barb
Another great video George, nice to see how things used to be 😊
Thanks chris glad you enjoyed it mate
Such beautiful buildings. Just watching you walk down there is brilliant. I have not walked in that area. Maybe it is time to visit areas that i lived near as a child. I remember my mother talking about the big houses and rich families but in those days it was two different worlds. Xxx
Windows were bricked up like Rose cottage when the window tax was introduced. That’s where the saying ‘daylight robbery’ originated
72 yrs on this planet and only NOW I get that phrase 😅
Ha ha me to
Brilliant cheers
George & Eric - the Scouse version of Tintin & Snowy 😊
Ha ha boss
Thats so interesting ..i loved it thanks
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed the video
Going to make a statement ... wow did not think stuff like this existed any more . I watch another video of yours . Foy d tou by accident . I am giving you very top marks , for your finds and posts . You are going to get 1000 / 1000 . For your finds . This stuff deserves very high marks . Shropshire lad . 😊
Great video. Interesting to see the street tucked away 🙂
Thanks ruth glad you enjoyed the video lovely little street indeed
Love it, love the old structures, 😊
Very nice I could quite easily live down there
@@mikemoult6999 i would deffo luve down there so nice but really loud at weekends apparently
Beautiful old buildings.
Really lovely indeed
Thanks for watching
Fascinating, I never knew it existed. A similar road in Manchester is Moon Grove.
I love the little hidden old roads like this
Great video guys
Thanka glad you liked it
Nice one.
Thanks for watching
It’s lovely!
Marantos, is a quality restaurant and pub been there several times. Nice to see Eric is back.
I remember marantos was the place to be yonks ago all my mates used to rave about it is it really that good?
You probably wont see eric for ages now he pops up when he wants ha ha
@g2emedia1977 Not been for a while but yes it was that good, but not cheap.
George have you looked at north drive and south drive off mill lane in wavertree? It was a gated area years ago, huge houses, one has giant stone dogs on each side of the main door.
Love those roads, lived in North drive for a couple of months years ago in the weirdest shaped house .
@@Delred1 was it the big one on the corner? It's divided into flats. I looked after the lady who owned it years ago as her home carer.
My old haunt, all the times I've been sat there having a pint and I didn't know the significance of that street! great video
Thanks for watching great little ppace lark lane i forgot how nice it was there they just need to get rid of vehicles and it will be spot on
Some of those garages well may have been stables, at on time there were hundreds of stables up and down the country.
Ahh yeh thats a good shout never thought of that
@@g2emedia1977 Are there Mews houses in Liverpool? All the ones in London used to be stables for the horses and cart drivers/chauffeurs for the bigger houses.
I used to work in marantos bout 25 years ago (old fart ) now walked past there every day never knew that was there so thanks for the vid mate 👍
Is it any good ive never been and i may try it one day
Mad how i grew up in surrounding areas and never even bothered with this place its quite nice i like it....not really a fan of eating on the road though lol
Thanks for watching matey
Interesting video George, good to see Eric.
Thanks brian glad you enjoyed the video good to see him out for once ha ha
I often thought about walking down there thanks, try looking up Marmaduke Street in Wavertree, thats old too, thanks interesting
Deffo worth a look cheers ill check out the street aswell
I remember the airgun shop, when it was the Webley Tempest and the gat 😂
I grew up in the Lane, my Grandmother lived in the first house on the left in Hadassah Grove, there was was never a Kharkiv sign in the 60s/70s, it would be interesting to find how that got there.
Kharkiv also known as Kharkov is the second-largest city in Ukraine. Located in the northeast of the country.
I had friends living in Hadassah Grove some 50 years ag o - academics who favoured the Lark Lane area.
Lordy people who bought last but one house at the bottom on right totally did not get the vibe of the place and should have moved somewhere else……
Great vid
Looks great. Pity some have left the bushes to overgrow. Would look amazing with all it cut back.
We did miss ya Eric 🥰
Noooo we never lol
You should look for Hailie Selassie's haunts. He used to live on Bertram Road and hang out in The Albert
As a bin man I can’t begin to tell you how much I hate this road. Long way to the wagon on lark lane when pulling two heavy bins.
I haven't been down that road, since the late 1990s.
Did it look the same back then?
@@g2emedia1977 Yep!
@@g2emedia1977 Yep!
The barbers isn’t shut down, got my hair cut there 2 weeks ago! Paul has been there for well over 50 years… he could teach you a thing or two about the Lane
Really enjoyed that video just a small point when you pan the camera around can you do it slower thanks
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video
Ill try my best on panning...cheers
Gun shop was next to Paul the barber,s which is still open I think
Ahh right i thought pauls was closed
Hi George
How can I email you to chat with you about something amazing ,I’m local and recently found something that needs exploring but I need to go into a lot of detail but not on here?
What a Beauty. I didn't even know this was there. They would have been people of substance that lived in some of those Houses mate. I wonder if it was some sort of Jewish community back in the day? On the street names HADASSAH is a Girls name in Hebrew & KHARKIV is a city in The Ukraine. Places like that are just full of character.
Its a beaut isnt it mate i had no idea this was here aswell so it was a nice surprise when i got sent some pictures of it
@@g2emedia1977 💯% Mate
@@therespectedlex9794 Well Ukraine has one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe so it's probably a historical thing.
@@therespectedlex9794If you've ever watched Fiddler On The Roof (and if not why not, great musical!) that was based on stories that were set in the Pale of Settlement, an area of Western Russia where Jews were allowed to settle. Not exclusively Ukraine but parts of Ukraine would certainly have fallen within the Pale of Settlement before it was disbanded, and the Jewish population there is recorded as up to 35% in 1884. So Kharkiv must have been within the same Pale of Settlement area. Amazing to think someone in Liverpool was trading with someone there nearly 200 years ago.
Interesting to see so many of the houses had their windows bricked up and once bricked up ,had not installed windows.I wonder if this was a result of The Window Tax ( Perhaps a Conservative government will bring back ) .I wonder how many people living in these houses fell ill as a consequence.
The window tax was a property tax in England and Wales from 1696 to 1851 that was based on the number of windows in a house. It was also introduced in Scotland in 1748 and repealed in both countries in 1851. The tax was intended to reflect a property owner's prosperity and ensure that people paid taxes based on their income. It consisted of two parts:
Flat rate: Two shillings per house, which is about £15 in modern terms
Variable rate: Based on the number of windows in the property
The tax was unpopular and caused a national outcry, with some believing the term "daylight robbery" originated at this time. People became more susceptible to diseases such as cholera, small pox, and typhus without adequate lighting and ventilation, and a popular campaign against the tax began to gain strength. Some people even bricked up their windows to avoid paying the tax. A motion to repeal the tax failed by three votes in April 1850, but a national campaign throughout 1850 and 1851 eventually led to its repeal in 1851.
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Couldn`t have much of an outcry if the tax existed for 155 years before it was repealed lol...A lot of them were bricked-up purely because as people got wealthier over the years they wanted to put more furniture like wardrobes and bookcases against the walls and hang paintings on them too.
Tartarian Empire 😊
Tartaria and the mudfloods UA-cam ❤️
Paul's barbers
Didn't see that many Turkish barbers or Vape shops
Nice walk, I like the video, but I cannot understand most of what is being talked about - even the generated subtitles are having great difficulty???
You need to be tuned into the scouse youtube subtitles are useless
Ill break it down for you...
2 men explore one of liverpools oldest roads one says wow then says hidden gem the other says wow then 2 men leave
Thanks for watching...
@@g2emedia1977 Haha, thanks for the info - I guess
Great history tour. Loved it. I must have passed this a few times. The road name sounded biblical ? Just googled it. It's a girls name of hebrew origin. Meaning myrtle tree ( peace )
Its a very strange name for a road isnt it
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed it
@@g2emedia1977 More to this than we think ?? There must be a story behind the name ? I am in Picton Library this week. I will see what I can find .
@KPP365 true that im currently looking on google to see if i can find anything i didnt find anything the other day like but you never know
thats a nice car port at the very end ,can just imagine reversing down there in a bin lorry. or delivery truck
Be a bloody nightmare reversing a bin wagon down there i wonder if on bin day they have to wheel em up to the top?
@@g2emedia1977 farmers in wales bring them down to the front gate as there is a half mile drive way
Well done reading that sign out about where the courier leaves the stuff...duh.
Thanks for watching karen
Take away the bins and it could be a Victorian film set.
If there happy I am
Pity about the watermark - spoiled an otherwise good video
Thanks for watching
Not wayed them grids in as said to posh way it in
The Beatles build this
Legends
B honest only look after me own
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We give r money away useless wid Money cos luck after me own
Bit to posh for me
I don’t like the writing on the screen
What writing
@@g2emedia1977The watermark that appears from 0:53 onwards.
@J-PoN nice one
Do some food reviews from Lark Lane. Plenty of good food and reasonable prices when you consider the price of a McDonald's these days. Meat Me (Greek) Yum Cha (Chinese) Elif (Turkish). Plenty of others but they are my go to.
Sounds like a plan that i am doing a few maybe this week and the chinese sounds good
Do you have any foods which are nice to order or recommend any from the chinese or i dont mind even trying turkish
Proper old
Really old
Such a poor looking street.
@@railmaster.7752 why?
@@g2emedia1977 Why? The state of the houses and the gardens.
@@railmaster.7752 looked fine to me and you are the only one who has complained about it?
Who cares
You obviously because you wouldnt have commented lol