Mitsubishi versus Tombow: Comparison of the 9852 HB & 2558 HB and 9000 B & 8900 B

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  • Опубліковано 4 лис 2024

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  • @annarussell3751
    @annarussell3751 4 місяці тому +7

    I also love the graph paper pad. When I first discovered the graph paper pad in the early 1980’s, I wrote to the address on the tablet to tell them how much I liked it. I think the company was Stuart, if I remember correctly. It was so much better than just having loose sheets with no holes punched in them. I must have been doing a lot of graphing in math classes. We did a lot by hand in those days before the graphing calculator became popular. Unfortunately, the address must not have been their correct mailing address, because my envelope was returned to me. I sure appreciate good pencils, too. I still prefer them over pens as a left-hander, since I erase a lot.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Hi Anna - I remember Stuart papers. I don't know if they are still in business or not. Graph paper is great, and I tend to switch between graph and lined paper, but always enjoy the graph paper more. Thanks!

  • @ma-mo
    @ma-mo 4 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for showing us some of the very best, side-by-side, in action.
    I tend to neglect my Japanese pencils, likely because I already know how outstanding they are, and I don't want to use them up!

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому +3

      Oh the dilemma of either having your cake or eating it... Such a shame that wooden pencils are consumable.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому +3

      Hi MAMO - I know what you mean. We know how good these pencils are and I think we spend a fair amount of time searching for pencils that are just a good. But we know this is an infrequent situation. Thanks!

  • @drawles16
    @drawles16 4 місяці тому +2

    Glad I was introduced to Japanese pencils. They are truly delightful to write with.

    • @KobieK
      @KobieK 4 місяці тому

      Tombow is mostly outsourced, stick to Mitsubishi

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому +1

      Hi drawles - seems like once you start using some of these Japanese pencils it's really hard to switch back to something else! Thanks!

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KobieK Doesn't matter if it's outsourced. What matters is _quality._ And Tombow has that aplenty.

    • @KobieK
      @KobieK 4 місяці тому +1

      @@DinnerForkTongue The word "Made in Japan" is synonymous with quality. The culture of continuous improvement, often referred to as "Kaizen," is at the core of why Japanese products consistently excel in quality. This mentality of "doesn't matter if it's outsourced" is unwise. Just take a look at American manufacturing and what outsourcing did to it. Now "Made in America" = garbage quality. Think GM and Chevrolet.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KobieK Again, that's not the fault of outsourcing. It's a matter of bad QC. If the product follows the same specs and there's someone to assure the specs are indeed followed, it literally doesn't matter if it's produced in Japan, Poland, Portugal, Canada, Congo, Peru or in outer space.
      What happened to American manufacturing goes FAR beyond simply outsourcing.

  • @LouiesWorkshop
    @LouiesWorkshop 4 місяці тому +2

    Hi,
    Great video as always. I was wondering if you had any experience with the Ticonderoga Block Erasers.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Thanks, Powerstroke! I gave the Ticonderoga erasers a try a few year ago when they first came out. They are just okay, along the lines of a Pink Pearl, if I recall. There are many erasers that do a much better job. Thanks!

  • @DinnerForkTongue
    @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому

    A proper showcase of quality stationery. God I love Japanese writing supplies.
    The Tombows both seemed a smidge darker on camera than the Mitsubishis. Including in the HB test.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Hi DFT - agreed. Total quality in every way and a joy to use. I'll have to go back and try them and see if the Tombows are a tad darker. Thanks!

  • @greekveteran2715
    @greekveteran2715 4 місяці тому +1

    Does anybody know, if they use the same graphite lead on Uni Star,they put on Hi-Uni please ?

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 4 місяці тому +1

      Try asking on the Pencils subreddit. They should know.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Good question, greekveteran. I'm afraid I don't know.

  • @CRxTRDud3
    @CRxTRDud3 4 місяці тому

    I see you checked them out in comparison ... Yeah, basically those are the ones who are comparing between each other. Though you should compare the 9800 in the Mitsu end than the 9000. Those are the ones who pair more.
    In conclusion though, Mitsubishi Pencil and Tombow really are competitive when it comes to pencils. St. Louis Art Supply has a pretty good blog post regarding these two and how they competed each other. It is searchable if you guys wanna do your research.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Hi CRx - I remember reading that blog some time ago on the St. Louis Art Supply website and it was a very interesting comparison. Thanks!

    • @CRxTRDud3
      @CRxTRDud3 4 місяці тому

      @@AlwaysAnalog Yeah, I have compared them myself and yeah, they kinda have the same conclusion as yours. I still try to use both of them on my drawing/sketching.

  • @raccoon874
    @raccoon874 4 місяці тому +3

    *jeez I gotta stop watching these, I have started wondering into the pencil aisle at every store that has one... I have pencils that will take at last 3 years to use up*

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому +3

      LOL! This is the life of a pencil lover, raccoon! It's all good - keep checking that pencil aisle, you never know what you might find!

    • @Recordesk
      @Recordesk 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep. That's how it starts... grins.

  • @KobieK
    @KobieK 4 місяці тому +2

    Mitsubishi wins because it's still made in Japan.

    • @AlwaysAnalog
      @AlwaysAnalog  4 місяці тому

      Hi Kobie - if you want to include place of manufacture in the evaluation, then the Mitsubishi pencils are the ones made in Japan. Thanks!

    • @Crazytesseract
      @Crazytesseract 4 місяці тому +1

      Some Mitsubishi products are made in Vietnam like Propus highlighters, Pin fineliners, Paint markers etc. They are the same quality.

    • @KobieK
      @KobieK 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Crazytesseract If there was no negative tradeoff whatsoever then Mitsubishi would’ve moved all production to cheap Vietnam. The reason some are made in Vietnam is because they want to cater to people that don’t mind the quality tradeoff for the price. Which is fine.