Vancouver, Seattle and Portland are just🤌 Those rainy and evergreen vibes spanning across the two countries, man! That's why I love _The Last of Us Part II_ , _Twin Peaks_ and _Wayward Pines_ so much because of that Pacific Northwest backdrop! I also love Ithaca, NY, Fort Collins, CO and the Prairies a lot, too!
the same this atmosphere of north america the great forest the rain the moutains the legend of wendigoo bigfoot clearly for me vancouvers seattle and portland are the most beautifull city of america and canada for life style of nature
I like watching your videos from the Pacific Northwest. I was actually born in the Portland area, but grew up in central Michigan, and have lived in central Florida as an adult. But I think about both Portland and Seattle all the time. I still feel like either would be places I’d fit right in. They’re both just “me” in ways that both Michigan and Florida never have been. But it would still be more of an adjustment than I think I realize. Still, maybe one day.
I was born in Portland and as and adult moved to Phoenix for 10 years then back to Portland for 3 years. Now living for almost 2 years In Florida. I miss Portland.
@@deandraaviles1297 I agree 🤗 I was an undergrad at UW Seattle in the 70's...I lived on Capitol hill and worked at Frederick and Nelson downtown...it was a different time for the city but my favorite part was doing week long hikes in the north Cascades and the Olympic peninsula. I also got to work at mt Rainier national park for 2 summers. I miss those beautiful places ♥️
I moved to Seattle just as Frederick and Nelson was closing. After San Francisco at its best, Seattle was a serious shock…pretty, low key…and oh, so dull. But I persevered, found a couple of good groups of people…and and have had a good life here. My adult son settled in Portland, which I love as much as Seattle.Yes, both cities have serious issues from the drug crisis and inadequate housing…but they are home..
it really has gone way down hill, i currently live just outside of downtown and its a beautiful area but soon as you get close to PDX it becomes a 3rd world look in some areas
@@hunglo666 It's slightly better than it was two years ago, but it still has a long way to go. I've seen the city come back from worse, though (I'd argue that the late 80s and early 90s were FAR worse than anything we've seen these last few years) I'm optimistic that it will be back to its pre-2018 glory soon.
@@LordHeadcheez I was downtown all the time in the late 80's and all through the 90's and I just don't remember it being bad at all. I went to school downtown, worked downtown, played downtown and I loved it. All of the recent footage I've seen in the last few years with all of the tents everywhere looks so much worse than I have ever seen it.
Every city has a spirit and despite all the changes that have happened in Portland -that many are disheartened with, this city still has its soul quietly breathing.
I walked every one of those streets back in 2019 when I live there. It's good to see that it hasn't changed as much as I was afraid it had. I miss it, sometimes. Thanks for doing this.
Perfect shoot around Portland Downtown. You've got such a terrific time and angle of video recording around this beautiful city!! Thanks a lot man for letting us indulge ourselves in watching this live video!!
It's always a good day when one of your videos pops up 😊I recently visited Portland for the first time, so it was fun to actually recognize some of these places! Thanks for braving the rain ☔
I used to live in Portland. The first part of the video was great. The last part in in Old Town was a waste. Trashy buildings, homeless tents, and generally just looks like crap! Portland has gone down the crapper in recent years.
Oh yeah, Rontoms in Portland has free music shows every Sunday night if you are looking for something to do. Always really fun and good crowds/diverse mix of people.
LIved in Portland two years now. Amazing how much less riffraff there is when it's pouring downtown. Were it not for the rain the whole city would smell like a toilet.
There is a person who I follow who explores Okinawa, Japan. I miss Okinawa and would, time and time again, visit her videos. Join in on her walks. Missing and crying.
My Christmas wish this year is for all homeless people to find a community such as Tiny Tranquility type places to live, and get all the help they need.
I'll make it a seperate posts for the ones interested, comment chains are collapsed. Mind you, am a bit drunk now so I rambled on, but it's about two videos you might like. Link in a comment under this one in case links aren't allowed: Hey, I'm Dutch and the PNW would be the area I would love to visit. After the North East maybe, this because of Stephen King and me reading his novels as a child (some were marked 16+ back then, but 13 year old me was tall and probably the librarians knew I loved those books and just gave them without being difficult). So, reading the stories more often than not located in that, and surrounding States, made me want to go there first. But fast forward from ~1991 to 2017....One of the few shows I watch on TV is "Wie is de Mol", which was created in Belgium, then the Netherlands soon after and then several countries aired their version. In the US it wasn't a success (probably because it looked overproduced and non relatable candidates), but I now see Netflix aired a new season just last year. Anyway, the show is about 1 person being the a 'mole' and undermine assignments they all have to do in groups or alone. In 2017 the location for the DUtch version was Portland city and Oregon as a whole later on that season. Since you love that area too (for different reasons), I will post two links below. I'm not sure whether thats allowed here or will be shadowbanned etc. If it doesn't show up, search for "Wie is de Mol Amerika, English Subttiles", and you will find a human subtitled series. In episode 1, the first half minute or so looks pixalated but that's part of the actual broadcast. It's HD after. Might be fun for Portlandese? Portlanders? to see their own neighbourhood in a Dutch game show. The first link I will post is the promo-reel from back then. It shows the filming locations by drone mostly with music that fits, both in Portland and elsewhere in Oregon. I will try to remember posting this all on this video here and will tell when I've visited ;) Cheers from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Okay, here's the film location teaser ua-cam.com/video/7rGkSCn_aNc/v-deo.html Episode 1 link is this one, remember, the pixelated part was part of the broadcast and is gone within the first minute, it's not some bad quality upload ua-cam.com/video/fAGrKWuo6Zs/v-deo.html Hope you enjoy the shots! I do. Then again, I live below sealevel in one of the flattest places on earth. Any bump in the road is a hill to mee :) That's why I love driving to Austria in summer and/or winter. Love the Alps too. But Oregon has so much different biospheres.
Not all US cities are urban sprawl, car centric metropolises lol. Alot are though. Some other "European " style cities in the US are Charleston, SC, Boston MA, Savanah GA, Portland Maine, Baltimore Maryland, Washington DC, new orleans lousiana, Santa Barbara, Montpelier Vermont, Leavenworth WA, Tarpon Springs Florida, Newport rhode Island and Holland Michigan .... I'm sure there's more, but those are the most beautiful cities and towns I could think of that remind me of europe...
Thank you for the walk. What you show is the beauty of Portland. It is disorienting for me in that there are half-remembered places mixed in with the new things of the last fifty years. This seems to be a weekday mid-morning. Yes? No, Friday afternoon.... ...and after walking through ghosts and graffiti I see the senescence of the city.
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10.11.2022: There is something really weird and unfair here. That video is posted 13 days ago and it has already more than 36 000 views ? How is that possible UA-cam ? Are you discriminating the UA-camrs from not so famous countries like my country ? What is really happening here ??? P.S. Nice video by the way ! My comment is NOT personal and definitely thumbs up for your content 👍
Thanks for the vid. Love the city but haven't been there in a few years, so I really appreciate it. Thinking about moving there in the future. Dismayed by how few people there seem to be out on the streets on a Friday afternoon, rain notwithstanding. Is downtown dead for now, or for the foreseeable future? But I was happily surprised with how few people living on the streets there seemed to be. There were some at the end of your video in Old Town, but still, fewer than I expected given all the news stories I've seen and read. What's the real situation?
Downtown is still suffering from work-from-home trends, and just the repercussions that go along with having less people around. It's definitely lively on a nice Saturday but a rainy weekday isn't gonna be like that l, with so few office workers. The city has cleaned up quite a bit in the last year. The mayor has banned camping along school routes and around freeways, but you'll still see some of that. Just last week he proposed a city wide camping ban, with sanctioned camp sites to divert people to. If they refuse, they can enter treatment or be cited... this is a long shot but could really help turn things around.
As a retired truck driver who has been to Portland many times, I can tell you that it is a beautiful city, but it is also one of the most dangerous cities in the US. If you visit there be very careful.
@@jn1103 because rent downtown is stupid expensive and unfortunately so many people are in so many shitty situations that the well off don't care about
The average salary published last month to live affordably in Portland in 2022 is over $110,000. The homeless are not sub humans or uncivilized humans who live in caves. They deserve dignity, every human life is precious and shame on America for leaving our fellow neighbor’s destitute due to greed. It’s a tragedy and has left broken lives and shattered souls. Every homeless person you see is someone’s son, daughter, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, friend, grandchild-and are loved by someone who fears for their life and hurts daily for them. We need to get out of our little mind set about who is a homeless person. It could be you if rents continue to go up and the cost of living skyrockets or the market crashes.
@@Georgian1717 do these people work? Excuse me, but if they just live one day and do not want to change something, then this is their responsibility too. you can rent an apartment with others, go to two jobs, in the end you can go to the village, where life is cheaper than living on the street
You’ve must of never been to a big city before. Even in your little hick towns you have roads you don’t want to go down right? From what I’ve seen he has walked through a park that was littered with homeless a year ago and I didn’t even see one. Why do you have to hate when the city tries to get better
@@alexgut1everything знакомый звонил рассказывал, так что что вам показывают по инету это пыль в глаза.... там 24 на 7 очко сжимается в любом районе)) примерно с конца 90 х годов в сша так стало и то что вам показывают блогеры и голливудские фильмы это херобоба для отсталых
@@user-vb9bn7dx4k ,а то есть вы сами всего этого лично не видели и вам какой-то "очень хороший знакомый так сказал".Ну,да,ну,да... Знаете что.Я не отрицаю,что нигде не рай,но и вот так голословно без каких-либо доказательств верить я никому не собираюсь: ни тем,кто говорит,что всё отлично,ни тем,кто,что всё "ужас,ужас,всё пропало". Так что можете и дальше,как в сказке,кричать "Волки!". Дизлайк, бан.
Vancouver, Seattle and Portland are just🤌 Those rainy and evergreen vibes spanning across the two countries, man! That's why I love _The Last of Us Part II_ , _Twin Peaks_ and _Wayward Pines_ so much because of that Pacific Northwest backdrop! I also love Ithaca, NY, Fort Collins, CO and the Prairies a lot, too!
the same this atmosphere of north america the great forest the rain the moutains the legend of wendigoo bigfoot clearly for me vancouvers seattle and portland are the most beautifull city of america and canada for life style of nature
Beautiful autumn atmosphere.
I like watching your videos from the Pacific Northwest. I was actually born in the Portland area, but grew up in central Michigan, and have lived in central Florida as an adult. But I think about both Portland and Seattle all the time. I still feel like either would be places I’d fit right in. They’re both just “me” in ways that both Michigan and Florida never have been. But it would still be more of an adjustment than I think I realize. Still, maybe one day.
I was born in Portland and as and adult moved to Phoenix for 10 years then back to Portland for 3 years. Now living for almost 2 years In Florida. I miss Portland.
Grew up living in Phoenix, AZ. I now live in Seattle and wouldn’t trade it for anything. The PNW is the most beautiful part of the US in my opinion.
@@deandraaviles1297 I agree 🤗 I was an undergrad at UW Seattle in the 70's...I lived on Capitol hill and worked at Frederick and Nelson downtown...it was a different time for the city but my favorite part was doing week long hikes in the north Cascades and the Olympic peninsula. I also got to work at mt Rainier national park for 2 summers. I miss those beautiful places ♥️
I moved to Seattle just as Frederick and Nelson was closing. After San Francisco at its best, Seattle was a serious shock…pretty, low key…and oh, so dull. But I persevered, found a couple of good groups of people…and and have had a good life here. My adult son settled in Portland, which I love as much as Seattle.Yes, both cities have serious issues from the drug crisis and inadequate housing…but they are home..
If you love fentanyl you'll fit right in.
I love walking in the rain my fav!!
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Miss my old Portland.
Portland's atmosphere on a rainy day is unmatched. Used to really like living there. I've heard it's really gone downhill recently though.
it really has gone way down hill, i currently live just outside of downtown and its a beautiful area but soon as you get close to PDX it becomes a 3rd world look in some areas
@@hunglo666 It's slightly better than it was two years ago, but it still has a long way to go. I've seen the city come back from worse, though (I'd argue that the late 80s and early 90s were FAR worse than anything we've seen these last few years) I'm optimistic that it will be back to its pre-2018 glory soon.
It has . And far left antifa people are lying and defensive about it. I'm a Democrat. I'm not a liar/ stooge or rioter . Why lie about facts ?
@@LordHeadcheez I was downtown all the time in the late 80's and all through the 90's and I just don't remember it being bad at all. I went to school downtown, worked downtown, played downtown and I loved it. All of the recent footage I've seen in the last few years with all of the tents everywhere looks so much worse than I have ever seen it.
Every city has a spirit and despite all the changes that have happened in Portland -that many are disheartened with, this city still has its soul quietly breathing.
it is very beautiful city
I walked every one of those streets back in 2019 when I live there. It's good to see that it hasn't changed as much as I was afraid it had. I miss it, sometimes. Thanks for doing this.
so dramatic
Must be another realtor. Show em the BUMS, AND THE TENTS !
Perfect shoot around Portland Downtown. You've got such a terrific time and angle of video recording around this beautiful city!! Thanks a lot man for letting us indulge ourselves in watching this live video!!
This is so incredibly calming and satisfying
Thanks. Nice seeing Portland again.
The atmosphere is beautiful and makes me relax friends
Beautiful autumn atmosphere. 👍
It's always a good day when one of your videos pops up 😊I recently visited Portland for the first time, so it was fun to actually recognize some of these places! Thanks for braving the rain ☔
Beautiful autumn footage! 🙂👍👍👍🍂🍁
Kinda of like better, cleaner & less crowded version of Central London UK
@Sabrina and husband Portland is anything BUT clean. It looks way worse than what this video shows.
Makes me want to sit down in one of the patios and drink a cup of hot coffee.
Hot cappucino without sugar 😂
it is very beautiful City
Is the beautiful sity. But there are a lot of very strange people on the streets. Tents right in Downtown.
Subscribed to the channel. Hi from Siberia.
Great walk,thx
I’ve only lived in Seattle for 5 months, but I miss Portland and want to move back soon.
Love your videos
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I used to live in Portland. The first part of the video was great. The last part in in Old Town was a waste. Trashy buildings, homeless tents, and generally just looks like crap! Portland has gone down the crapper in recent years.
Yes this is PORTLAND,OREGONthe clean part of downtown
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Oh yeah, Rontoms in Portland has free music shows every Sunday night if you are looking for something to do. Always really fun and good crowds/diverse mix of people.
LIved in Portland two years now. Amazing how much less riffraff there is when it's pouring downtown. Were it not for the rain the whole city would smell like a toilet.
Totally agree
Yeah it isn't the rain keeping people out of that shit hole. 😆
So why did you move?
There is a person who I follow who explores Okinawa, Japan. I miss Okinawa and would, time and time again, visit her videos. Join in on her walks. Missing and crying.
Thanks so much. Exactly what I needed.
Thank you!
Hi are you from Portland? I am ❤️ I love the fall and summer in Portland it’s the best!!!
My Christmas wish this year is for all homeless people to find a community such as Tiny Tranquility type places to live, and get all the help they need.
I'll make it a seperate posts for the ones interested, comment chains are collapsed. Mind you, am a bit drunk now so I rambled on, but it's about two videos you might like. Link in a comment under this one in case links aren't allowed:
Hey, I'm Dutch and the PNW would be the area I would love to visit. After the North East maybe, this because of Stephen King and me reading his novels as a child (some were marked 16+ back then, but 13 year old me was tall and probably the librarians knew I loved those books and just gave them without being difficult). So, reading the stories more often than not located in that, and surrounding States, made me want to go there first. But fast forward from ~1991 to 2017....One of the few shows I watch on TV is "Wie is de Mol", which was created in Belgium, then the Netherlands soon after and then several countries aired their version. In the US it wasn't a success (probably because it looked overproduced and non relatable candidates), but I now see Netflix aired a new season just last year.
Anyway, the show is about 1 person being the a 'mole' and undermine assignments they all have to do in groups or alone. In 2017 the location for the DUtch version was Portland city and Oregon as a whole later on that season. Since you love that area too (for different reasons), I will post two links below. I'm not sure whether thats allowed here or will be shadowbanned etc. If it doesn't show up, search for "Wie is de Mol Amerika, English Subttiles", and you will find a human subtitled series. In episode 1, the first half minute or so looks pixalated but that's part of the actual broadcast. It's HD after. Might be fun for Portlandese? Portlanders? to see their own neighbourhood in a Dutch game show. The first link I will post is the promo-reel from back then. It shows the filming locations by drone mostly with music that fits, both in Portland and elsewhere in Oregon. I will try to remember posting this all on this video here and will tell when I've visited ;)
Cheers from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
Okay, here's the film location teaser ua-cam.com/video/7rGkSCn_aNc/v-deo.html
Episode 1 link is this one, remember, the pixelated part was part of the broadcast and is gone within the first minute, it's not some bad quality upload ua-cam.com/video/fAGrKWuo6Zs/v-deo.html Hope you enjoy the shots! I do. Then again, I live below sealevel in one of the flattest places on earth. Any bump in the road is a hill to mee :) That's why I love driving to Austria in summer and/or winter. Love the Alps too. But Oregon has so much different biospheres.
That show " Portlandia " had a differdent yet good vibe
This is in the US? It looks a little bit European, caught me off guard. Beautiful city.
Portland is a nice city but if you want a city that looks more European then Boston, MA is another big city that looks very European.
@@CesarGonzalez0981 very cool thanks for the information
@kato looks alot like Canada I must admit
Not all US cities are urban sprawl, car centric metropolises lol. Alot are though. Some other "European " style cities in the US are Charleston, SC, Boston MA, Savanah GA, Portland Maine, Baltimore Maryland, Washington DC, new orleans lousiana, Santa Barbara, Montpelier Vermont, Leavenworth WA, Tarpon Springs Florida, Newport rhode Island and Holland Michigan .... I'm sure there's more, but those are the most beautiful cities and towns I could think of that remind me of europe...
That because this vid doesn't show homeless, riots and freaks shouting at you
10:20 This one is such a beatuy! I hope it's also there without the rain 😁😁
god i miss portland
Don't miss all the bad stuff though
Thank you for the walk. What you show is the beauty of Portland. It is disorienting for me in that there are half-remembered places mixed in with the new things of the last fifty years.
This seems to be a weekday mid-morning. Yes? No, Friday afternoon....
...and after walking through ghosts and graffiti I see the senescence of the city.
Are you holding your equipment or it’s mounted on your chest? May I ask what camera u use?
Every time i end up on Jackson and 2nd in Seattle I feel like I'm back here. It's like pioneer square that never ends.;
Wowww beautiful place 😍😍😍😍
DAmn . it's so good
Amazing! Got inspiration from your video!
Хочу пожить там некоторое время.... Очень красиво!
Very nice
Love the video's
I like waterfront so calm and piece UwU❤
Great
Hi! How are you?
Korea/Seoul is suffering from the worst ultrafine dust of the year today.
COVID-19 remains the same.
I wish you good health and good things for the rest of the week.
Thank you very much.
10.11.2022:
There is something really weird and unfair here.
That video is posted 13 days ago and it has already more than
36 000 views ?
How is that possible UA-cam ?
Are you discriminating the UA-camrs from not so famous countries like my country ?
What is really happening here ???
P.S. Nice video by the way !
My comment is NOT personal and definitely thumbs up for your content 👍
Don't be a wanker.
I grew up on 4th and Flanders aka the dark side of downtown
Nice video man! So beautiful there!
MORE PLZ.........
Thanks for the vid. Love the city but haven't been there in a few years, so I really appreciate it. Thinking about moving there in the future. Dismayed by how few people there seem to be out on the streets on a Friday afternoon, rain notwithstanding. Is downtown dead for now, or for the foreseeable future? But I was happily surprised with how few people living on the streets there seemed to be. There were some at the end of your video in Old Town, but still, fewer than I expected given all the news stories I've seen and read. What's the real situation?
Downtown is still suffering from work-from-home trends, and just the repercussions that go along with having less people around. It's definitely lively on a nice Saturday but a rainy weekday isn't gonna be like that l, with so few office workers. The city has cleaned up quite a bit in the last year. The mayor has banned camping along school routes and around freeways, but you'll still see some of that. Just last week he proposed a city wide camping ban, with sanctioned camp sites to divert people to. If they refuse, they can enter treatment or be cited... this is a long shot but could really help turn things around.
@@rybone6 I agree. We at least have to try something.
@@rybone6 Thanks for replying. Appreciate it.
@@lucasjsnyder Thanks for replying. Appreciate it.
@@lucasjsnyder That Republican turd Drazan will be the one ruining the state, not Kotek.
Walk 82nd in the rain hehe
Muito bonito 👏👏👏👏👏
I would like to see the suburbs of porland. Much better my friend:)
Hello, what equipment did you use to shoot
Красивый город
long time no see
What kind of camera do you use?
Wanted to go to Portland in October but I’m going in march now🤷🏽♂️
14:45 What was doing that guy who beside the wall?
Crack..
What half of Portland does. Drugs
Great video!. Which camera do you use?
Is portland now alright?😢
Why are people tenting on the pavement? Homeless people?
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As a retired truck driver who has been to Portland many times, I can tell you that it is a beautiful city, but it is also one of the most dangerous cities in the US. If you visit there be very careful.
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crazy how no one is talking about the junkies lol
Where do the Trailblazers play?
great video but far from being 4k.
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место, где мне нет места... 😒 место где я тень...
Which is the country ?
Take a wild guess...
U.S
Awsome! I also have a vlog : Portland in fall if you want to check it
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Slow down! Lol
Cars Ruin Cities
toooo slooooooow))..
This is not portland. It does not have a few homeless on the street and it certaintly not that clean.
Where all the dope fiends and homeless lunatics at?!
ben shapiro lied!
You kill me with these videos. Omg !!! I love Portland, the only problem is, they vote democrats. And that's a shame. But the city itself is lovely.
US cities are so boring, I hadn't realised this before.
It’s amazing you found a strip of land without a homeless person on it but of course it’s raining so they’re gonna be hiding in their little caves
why are there so many?
@@jn1103 because rent downtown is stupid expensive and unfortunately so many people are in so many shitty situations that the well off don't care about
The average salary published last month to live affordably in Portland in 2022 is over $110,000. The homeless are not sub humans or uncivilized humans who live in caves. They deserve dignity, every human life is precious and shame on America for leaving our fellow neighbor’s destitute due to greed. It’s a tragedy and has left broken lives and shattered souls. Every homeless person you see is someone’s son, daughter, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, friend, grandchild-and are loved by someone who fears for their life and hurts daily for them. We need to get out of our little mind set about who is a homeless person. It could be you if rents continue to go up and the cost of living skyrockets or the market crashes.
@@Georgian1717 do these people work? Excuse me, but if they just live one day and do not want to change something, then this is their responsibility too. you can rent an apartment with others, go to two jobs, in the end you can go to the village, where life is cheaper than living on the street
@@jn1103 Some work, but if you have been homeless for a while, who will hire you?
awesome! nice footage! thanks for posting and giving me a great idea!
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Forgot to show all the needles laying everywhere.
How is walking with a camera forgetting to show something? 😂
@@graham974 maybe your camera didn't go down the right street? Not showing the real Portland...
You’ve must of never been to a big city before. Even in your little hick towns you have roads you don’t want to go down right? From what I’ve seen he has walked through a park that was littered with homeless a year ago and I didn’t even see one. Why do you have to hate when the city tries to get better
@@Dylwud lol, that's funny. You think it's bad to live out of the big shitty city.. 🤡
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Ты там был? Тебя ограбили?
@@alexgut1everything знакомый звонил рассказывал, так что что вам показывают по инету это пыль в глаза.... там 24 на 7 очко сжимается в любом районе)) примерно с конца 90 х годов в сша так стало и то что вам показывают блогеры и голливудские фильмы это херобоба для отсталых
@@user-vb9bn7dx4k ,а то есть вы сами всего этого лично не видели и вам какой-то "очень хороший знакомый так сказал".Ну,да,ну,да... Знаете что.Я не отрицаю,что нигде не рай,но и вот так голословно без каких-либо доказательств верить я никому не собираюсь: ни тем,кто говорит,что всё отлично,ни тем,кто,что всё "ужас,ужас,всё пропало".
Так что можете и дальше,как в сказке,кричать "Волки!".
Дизлайк, бан.
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Hello, what equipment did you use to shoot