Love the review. Agree completely with your assessment and how you used it in Italy. I'm going on my 10th year of using the Typ 109. The D-LUX series cameras are by no means perfect, but it's truly a fantastic point-and-shoot and I love its versatility. My only complaint is the dust issue as I've had to get the sensor cleaned 3 or 4 times via Leica Customer Care. Was using the camera last week and noticed either a dead pixel or more dust. Dead pixels happen, but there's no apparent way to map the pixels to fix it. Would love to see this and some form of weather resistance/ better sealing against dust on any future iteration.
Thanks for your thoughts. Ya sorry to hear about your dust-on-sensor issue. You’ve really used yours though, which is fantastic. I love it when someone uses a camera until it dies or breaks. I’ve done it with many cameras. it means you used it to the max!! These little point and shoots weren’t meant to last unfortunately, but we can create beautiful photos with it during it’s lifetime. That’s what they were made for!
This was an awesome review. You perfectly illustrated that there is no real secret sauce to photography; just get out and shoot. No need to worry about taking the perfect picture every time you press the shutter. Figure out what works for your style and the equipment you have in hand - and have fun. You can pick up and try new tips and tricks along the way. Nice work, Take. The camera was pretty cool too.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video. And yes, the equipment is important, but it’s not the most important. I took pictures in the film era and still took epic photos without autofocus, auto white balance, the ability to change ISO mid roll, or even the ability to see the images until I got home a month later!!
Great review. This is the first review loaded with demo photos of different environment and lighting conditions. This camera is a perfect supplement to my full frame Nikon camera. A great travel companion as well.
Honestly a very good camera, if whomever can develop a next generation micro four-thirds sensor (a slight bump to like 25 megapixels, but more importantly lower base ISO/more DR) and Leica gets rid of the silly aspect ratio thing, I can see the D-Lux 9 being a powerhouse. My wish list is the lens becomes a 20-70mm equivalent, that extra on the wide end would be amazing for this sort of camera.
A 25MP sensor does exist for M43 already, as well as a stacked sensor. It’s just a matter of price. As for a lens, I think 21-50mm without making the lens much bigger would be ideal for someone like myself, but the average person probably prefers 24-75mm equivalent. Let’s see with the next generation. Firmware update first 😊😊
How is this different from the Lumix LX100ii from 2018 apart from the revised Leica packaging? I think it is the same camera with the same lens and same sensor.
Definitely same lens, sensor is slightly different, MOS vs CMOS, but i don’t think that’s a huge difference. Maybe only read speed might be improved. So for IQ yes it’s basically the same.
@bigheadtaco it’s a surprisingly capable camera. It’s often negatively compared to the Fuji x100vi from a price and its micro 4/3 sensor perspective, but I think people underestimate the power of its lens both from quality but also from zoom capability point of view. As one can optically zoom 17MP is plenty and it’s a relatively fast lens. That combination is very powerful and I think the D-Lux easily stands its ground against the Fuji. Being a Q3 / Q3 43 shooter myself I find the D- Lux very tempting.
The original X100 was 12MP, and the first generation X Series was 16MP. It’s still a capable camera and I’ve seen images blown up huge with that sensor. 17MP is more than enough for the average person. Even for a professional, as long as they don’t heavily crop, you can easily print up to 20 x 24 size.
Great and detailed review. Helps a lot to make the decision. I sold most of my premium Fuji X gear and left my basic f2 lenses and some third parties with an XT20. Looking for a new system to motivate myself and am not sure if this can be my daily driver. It looks good what it can do for sure! Somehow they lack something probably due to lack of DoF and color graduation that come with the sensor size?😅
As long as you’re close to the subject, you can get shallow DOF, but from medium distance, yes it lacks that pop. That’s the trade off for such a compact camera but with a decent zoom range
I will say that Panasonic and Leica typically have tech exclusivity agreements around their cameras meaning either Leica or Panasonic will release their equivalent a year or so later. I have zero doubts that a few months in Panasonic will release something new in the LX series.
If Panasonic makes a new LX series camera, I would be happy. But I think the Panasonic customer’s will be less forgiving than Leica customers, unless they put the 25MP sensor and add an articulating screen.
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How do so many young student at such expensive Leica class? What do they do in life? By the way, what you think of Nikon Zf with 28-400mm lens, same situation as SL, too big for these photos?
Thanks for the review I really appreciate the very detailed info’s. And overall experience, this is one of you best videos lately ( don’t feel too much the gear obsession on this one ) I own the dlux8 as well and can understand some of the advantage but I feel there is too much compromised to be competitive in neither Category too big for a point and shoot like rx100, quality and bokeh and iso perf is not really better Than 1 sensor and its not compact its almost same size as new mirror less which make it not competitive in this category as well for the same reason
If you use zooom a lot, then yes, having the range of 24-75mm equivalent in 35mm, versus only 35mm equivalent on the X100 series of cameras, the D-Lux8 might be a better choice. However, in terms of resolution, I/O, weather sealing, sensor size and resolution, the X100VI is ‘better’. It really depends on what you’re looking for.
Thanks, ya it was just a quick snap shot. She had the jacket on for maybe 20 seconds, so the ability to zoom in and grab the picture was only possible because I had a compact camera with a zoom lens. The M11-P I wouldn’t have even attempted it since my primary job at the time was being an instructor for my students.
I’m sure they see how popular this camera is. Leica typically don’t make new models so quickly, but I think maybe they make an exception with this one.
Nice review even though it felt like more like commercial sponsored by Leica! Considering you’ve been using a GRIII for 15 years it would have been valuable listening to you compare those two pocketable cameras.
Well, my point of this video wasn’t to compare. I did that in my other long format video where I pulled out all the various cameras. I was focused on my actual shooting experience with it on a very specific trip. Yes I could have brought the GR to compare, but my job was to teach, not to take photos for myself. Last year I had the Q2 and GRIII and I did showcase the difference.
I'm passing on this camera for now. As much as I like the menu system and overall design the D-Lux 8 lacks the customization of the preceding Lumix models and I wouldn't buy it unless Leica updates the firmware with these options: 1- Save current focal length : Yes/No. 2- Zoom on lens ring : Yes/No. 3- Step Zoom on lens ring : Yes/No. 4 - Step Zoom on W/T button : Yes/No. 5 - Digital zoom (75-105) : Yes/No.
Yes, we need a proper firmware update with the features you mentioned. I also mentioned these things and more (long press on play just to view images without lens sticking out) in my first look video. Thanks for your thoughts .
In the realm of digital, I cannot believe that for 8000$ more value in a Leica camera.. Is there 8K of difference between A full frame Fuji or Canon with their associate lenses? I ran into a guy in Montreal who was shooting one of the Leica MONO cameras and I convinced him to send me some samples.. I did not see that much difference in cameras 1/4 the price... Perhaps it is just that red dot that sets it apart... That's y beef. ;-)
Love the review. Agree completely with your assessment and how you used it in Italy. I'm going on my 10th year of using the Typ 109. The D-LUX series cameras are by no means perfect, but it's truly a fantastic point-and-shoot and I love its versatility. My only complaint is the dust issue as I've had to get the sensor cleaned 3 or 4 times via Leica Customer Care. Was using the camera last week and noticed either a dead pixel or more dust. Dead pixels happen, but there's no apparent way to map the pixels to fix it. Would love to see this and some form of weather resistance/ better sealing against dust on any future iteration.
Thanks for your thoughts. Ya sorry to hear about your dust-on-sensor issue. You’ve really used yours though, which is fantastic. I love it when someone uses a camera until it dies or breaks. I’ve done it with many cameras. it means you used it to the max!! These little point and shoots weren’t meant to last unfortunately, but we can create beautiful photos with it during it’s lifetime. That’s what they were made for!
This was an awesome review. You perfectly illustrated that there is no real secret sauce to photography; just get out and shoot. No need to worry about taking the perfect picture every time you press the shutter. Figure out what works for your style and the equipment you have in hand - and have fun. You can pick up and try new tips and tricks along the way. Nice work, Take.
The camera was pretty cool too.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the video. And yes, the equipment is important, but it’s not the most important. I took pictures in the film era and still took epic photos without autofocus, auto white balance, the ability to change ISO mid roll, or even the ability to see the images until I got home a month later!!
Great review. This is the first review loaded with demo photos of different environment and lighting conditions. This camera is a perfect supplement to my full frame Nikon camera. A great travel companion as well.
My next portable Leica ❤ D Lux 8 ❤❤❤
Always great to see your reviews 👍🏻
J.
Awesome, congrats! Some Leica stores do have them in stock like Leica Store SF
Thank you for a great review as always 👍🏻
First review of a camera i have watched without any cons, so the perfect camera do exist!:) Btw i ended up buying it..!:)
Great review. I’m loving my little D-Lux 8. I just spent a few days in the desert with it, and I used it more than my X2D. It’s just so damn useful!
It’s the perfect little camera for travel! But X2D is pretty sweet too!!
@@bigheadtaco Indeed! After 40 years of shooting, I feel I have the perfect combo, now.
Thanks you so much for your vidéo ! May I ask you the référence of your red shutter button of your DLUX 8 ?
Thanks for watching. The red shutter button is from Squarehood. It’s really nice.
Where did you get the red dot shutter button from?
Honestly a very good camera, if whomever can develop a next generation micro four-thirds sensor (a slight bump to like 25 megapixels, but more importantly lower base ISO/more DR) and Leica gets rid of the silly aspect ratio thing, I can see the D-Lux 9 being a powerhouse. My wish list is the lens becomes a 20-70mm equivalent, that extra on the wide end would be amazing for this sort of camera.
A 25MP sensor does exist for M43 already, as well as a stacked sensor. It’s just a matter of price. As for a lens, I think 21-50mm without making the lens much bigger would be ideal for someone like myself, but the average person probably prefers 24-75mm equivalent. Let’s see with the next generation. Firmware update first 😊😊
How is this different from the Lumix LX100ii from 2018 apart from the revised Leica packaging? I think it is the same camera with the same lens and same sensor.
Definitely same lens, sensor is slightly different, MOS vs CMOS, but i don’t think that’s a huge difference. Maybe only read speed might be improved. So for IQ yes it’s basically the same.
Great review！
Thanks for watching!
Hoe easy is it to change photometry between average, center, etc?
The JJC auto cap for the LX100 fits the Dlux 8 and at only £12 ... not the £70 of the Leica branded version.
Cool, thanks for the heads up. I knew I saw someone making it.
@bigheadtaco it’s a surprisingly capable camera. It’s often negatively compared to the Fuji x100vi from a price and its micro 4/3 sensor perspective, but I think people underestimate the power of its lens both from quality but also from zoom capability point of view. As one can optically zoom 17MP is plenty and it’s a relatively fast lens. That combination is very powerful and I think the D-Lux easily stands its ground against the Fuji. Being a Q3 / Q3 43 shooter myself I find the D- Lux very tempting.
The original X100 was 12MP, and the first generation X Series was 16MP. It’s still a capable camera and I’ve seen images blown up huge with that sensor. 17MP is more than enough for the average person. Even for a professional, as long as they don’t heavily crop, you can easily print up to 20 x 24 size.
Great and detailed review. Helps a lot to make the decision. I sold most of my premium Fuji X gear and left my basic f2 lenses and some third parties with an XT20. Looking for a new system to motivate myself and am not sure if this can be my daily driver. It looks good what it can do for sure! Somehow they lack something probably due to lack of DoF and color graduation that come with the sensor size?😅
As long as you’re close to the subject, you can get shallow DOF, but from medium distance, yes it lacks that pop. That’s the trade off for such a compact camera but with a decent zoom range
Really good review I bought and returned the dlux8, just to Panasonic for me….I bought a gr3 so far very happy……. Maybe a Q in my future
The D-Lux 8 is a great camera, but you found what you liked, congrats.
I do appreciate the back buttons and Leica menu, but they should have done more to differentiate it from the Panny LX100
I will say that Panasonic and Leica typically have tech exclusivity agreements around their cameras meaning either Leica or Panasonic will release their equivalent a year or so later. I have zero doubts that a few months in Panasonic will release something new in the LX series.
If Panasonic makes a new LX series camera, I would be happy. But I think the Panasonic customer’s will be less forgiving than Leica customers, unless they put the 25MP sensor and add an articulating screen.
Leica explicitly said that there will be no Panasonic version of this camera.
@@umaraslam7731 they did? Do you have a link.
The Panasonic already made a version of this camera in 2018. It's called the Lumix LX100ii.
Colours are special and the texture is gorgeous ... better than big Leicas!!
Thanks. The big Leicas are also great, but for snap shots, it’s hard to beat a compact point and shoot with a zoom. It’s a super power!!
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How do so many young student at such expensive Leica class? What do they do in life? By the way, what you think of Nikon Zf with 28-400mm lens, same situation as SL, too big for these photos?
This wasn’t a Leica class. This was a field school which included various company and cultural visits, including a visit to the Leica Store in Rome.
Thanks for the review I really appreciate the very detailed info’s. And overall experience, this is one of you best videos lately ( don’t feel too much the gear obsession on this one )
I own the dlux8 as well and can understand some of the advantage but I feel there is too much compromised to be competitive in neither Category too big for a point and shoot like rx100, quality and bokeh and iso perf is not really better Than 1 sensor and its not compact its almost same size as new mirror less which make it not competitive in this category as well for the same reason
Is this better than Fuji x100 v/vi
If you use zooom a lot, then yes, having the range of 24-75mm equivalent in 35mm, versus only 35mm equivalent on the X100 series of cameras, the D-Lux8 might be a better choice. However, in terms of resolution, I/O, weather sealing, sensor size and resolution, the X100VI is ‘better’. It really depends on what you’re looking for.
Seems to be a lot of smoothing going on here?
like the leather jacket shot..
Thanks, ya it was just a quick snap shot. She had the jacket on for maybe 20 seconds, so the ability to zoom in and grab the picture was only possible because I had a compact camera with a zoom lens. The M11-P I wouldn’t have even attempted it since my primary job at the time was being an instructor for my students.
A Little More improvement and I will buy the d lux 9 for sure
I’m sure they see how popular this camera is. Leica typically don’t make new models so quickly, but I think maybe they make an exception with this one.
Nice review even though it felt like more like commercial sponsored by Leica! Considering you’ve been using a GRIII for 15 years it would have been valuable listening to you compare those two pocketable cameras.
Well, my point of this video wasn’t to compare. I did that in my other long format video where I pulled out all the various cameras. I was focused on my actual shooting experience with it on a very specific trip. Yes I could have brought the GR to compare, but my job was to teach, not to take photos for myself. Last year I had the Q2 and GRIII and I did showcase the difference.
I'm passing on this camera for now. As much as I like the menu system and overall design the D-Lux 8 lacks the customization of the preceding Lumix models and I wouldn't buy it unless Leica updates the firmware with these options: 1- Save current focal length : Yes/No. 2- Zoom on lens ring : Yes/No. 3- Step Zoom on lens ring : Yes/No. 4 - Step Zoom on W/T button : Yes/No. 5 - Digital zoom (75-105) : Yes/No.
It does have digital zoom but only for small or medium JPEG mode.
Yes, we need a proper firmware update with the features you mentioned. I also mentioned these things and more (long press on play just to view images without lens sticking out) in my first look video. Thanks for your thoughts .
In the realm of digital, I cannot believe that for 8000$ more value in a Leica camera.. Is there 8K of difference between
A full frame Fuji or Canon with their associate lenses?
I ran into a guy in Montreal who was shooting one of the Leica MONO cameras and I convinced him to send me some samples..
I did not see that much difference in cameras 1/4 the price...
Perhaps it is just that red dot that sets it apart...
That's y beef. ;-)
There’s no question that the files have the distinct Leica colour about them. Which is to say they’re gorgeous.
It’s not a Leica sensor.
@ I know and it doesn’t need to be to have the same colour signature.
Le lx100 et son précédant ont eu un gros coup de pub sur les reseaux.leica ccest reveille.
This has bored the hell out of me sorry!