Huge shoutout to Handmade for being open-minded. We know the stigma we carry because of where we're from. We know there are some terrible frames out there. A bike mechanic's worst nightmare usually starts with "Hey, I bought this cheap frame online and..." so THANK YOU for accepting Jasper's offer. "It surprised be a little." was the cherry on top 🍒 we're gonna keep working to surprise people. Of course, thanks to Jasper for documenting the process. Looking forward to you taking it for a ride!
Very impressed that you guys started facing your frames after another video that criticized the lack of facing. This frame is at the top of my list for an eventual custom build.
It says in the video that "building bikes from china is not a service they normally offer", where do they think the argon 18 in the background came from!
Dude, why are you so upset? All I said was they usually don’t build up bikes for customers that come to their shop with parts of random brands (in this case a chinese brand, Winspace). They have a certain assortment, which is selective. They have all right to since it’s their shop. Nevertheless, they where impressed by the quality which is clearly shown in the video. Even though argon and cervelo are made in china, they are not in the category “Chinese bike brand” like Winspace. Don’t hate me for it, hate the industry. It’s pretty clear I don’t have a problem with Chinese in general. 🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl Your mechanic friend is happy to take a frame made in China and sold by a westerner but won't take a frame directly from China. You are an intelligent guy, an airline pilot, you must be able to see why the statements are offensive. The comment you've just made implies that everything made in China must be trash and you were amazed that it was not.
@@theillegalimmigrant9314 It's completely normal for bike shops to not take random bike parts of random bike brands they haven't worked with. There is nothing offenisve about any of those statements.
The Argon18 in the background might be manufactured in China. But it was designed, engineered, assembeled and quality controlled elsewhere. There is a difference and you know it. There is the risk that non established and unknown brands from China produce bikes that don't hold up to these quality standards.
Mechanics always make bike builds look so easy. I can do it but takes me 3 or 4x's as long! Great build btw. Looks great. No rimtape is a big plus in tl in imo :) U need a booster pump with tubeless I find tho. Pita without it. Makes things so much easier!
@@jasperverkuijl Oh, no mines a booster but goes up to 240psi in the chamber so seems to work quite well. i hear some pumps only go up to 160/180 so maybe mine works better than some others? I like to rub some sealant around the tyre bead first which i think helps on stubborn tyres.
Hey Jasper I just wanted to let you know that your Videos keep motivating me to ride further and further. This Winter i bought my first proper bike a stevens prestige and now Upgraded it from 40mm gravel to 28mm road tires... What an incredible difference! Dankjewel Florian
Hello @jasperverkuijl, could you please comment on sizing? What is your height, leg lenght, what frame size have you ordered, and how well it fits you? Thanks.
I’m 183. Don’t know leg length my my saddle height is 76,5cm from BB to top saddle. I have an L but I find it too big. It’s quite high in front (head tube) so can’t get my handlebar low enough for racing. Nevertheless this is great for comfort and bikepacking etc
It would be nice Jasper to maybe get your thoughts comparing your steel gravel bike vs carbon gravel bike. I always thought carbon maybe too stiff and harsh.
It’s a lot lighter! Carbon is stiff where it needs to be and flexible where it can. That’s the crazy thing of carbon, the characteristics are not the same everywhere. So far I like it and rides like a dream 🤙🏻
Just buy it for the looks if you really want to. Performance gains are debatable and marginal at best just watch some Hambini videos. If it would make a huge difference all the world tour pro's would use them
I didn’t mention. Im 186cm. The bike is a size L. But in hindsight I would’ve chosen a M with a longer stem to be able to drop the stem lower and still get the reach I wanted.
Hey Jasper excuse the question but what region of Almere are you located? I’m looking for a first time home and almere seems a bit more affordable than the rest. From birds chirping it seems like you’re in a good nature area which I prefer
Leuk om te zien! Hoi Jasper, ik overweeg dit frame te kopen. Ik ben ietsje groter dan jij (1.88) op goede dagen (zadelhoogte normaliter 78.5). Ik lees hieronder dat je het frame als groot beschrijft. Zou je bij voorkeur met de L of M rijden?
Ik zou zelf achteraf een maat kleiner nemen. Heb nu L dus voorkeur naar M. Is wel afhankelijk van je voorkeur en flexibiliteit. Ik heb graag een kleiner frame met langere stuur pen. Met een L kan ik het stuur niet laag genoeg krijgen. Daarom zou ik een M kiezen met lange stuurnok. Met 188 moet je prima op een L passen denk ik. Afhankelijk wat voor “fit” je zoekt.
Hi Jasper, Awesome build first of all, can i ask, what size frame is this and how tall are you? I am 6.4ft and wondering if large will be too small or just right?
I’m 1.86 and this is a size large. It’s quite big. But you can find all the geometry info on the website of Winspace and you can compare some only geometry comparison tools too 🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl More just a sign of bearing alignment and therefore one sign of care/quality by the manufacturer. It is also a small loss in performance but I doubt it makes a huge difference. Some new builds you can see them spin (without pedals) for nearly 10 seconds by comparison
Hi, would you mind telling us the total price of this beauty? Is it indeed a lot cheaper than getting one similar gravel bike from brands like Canyon, Trek, etc?
I’ll have to do the math. Groupset was about 1000, frame 1000, wheels 700, seat, handlebar (carbon), tires, bartape, stem etc probably about +-500. So that’s like 3300-ish?
You REALLY need to take more care when sewing carbon fiber... Wear respiratory protective equipment and do it outside. And definitely don't blow the carbon dust everywhere, that's a massive health risk!
Funny how people don't understand that there is still a difference between bikes from China, and bikes made in China but engineered, designed, quality control and sold by *insert established brand*. The Mechanic is 100% well aware that all of those brands manufacture in China/Taiwan , but there is still this difference.
Yes absolutely. I’ve seen a few different products (carbon frames, wheels, e-bikes) from china and the spectrum of quality is very wide. I’m glad Winspace is at the top (higher end) of that 👌🏻
► Nova2Ride Pulley wheels 10% off code "jaspernova10" 👉 bit.ly/Nova2Ride
► WINSPACE CARBON WHEELS/FRAMES, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉 www.winspace.cc
► SIROKO cycling KIT & GLASSES - 10% EXTRA OFF 👉 srko.co/verkuijl (link applies discount automatically)
Huge shoutout to Handmade for being open-minded. We know the stigma we carry because of where we're from. We know there are some terrible frames out there. A bike mechanic's worst nightmare usually starts with "Hey, I bought this cheap frame online and..." so THANK YOU for accepting Jasper's offer. "It surprised be a little." was the cherry on top 🍒 we're gonna keep working to surprise people. Of course, thanks to Jasper for documenting the process. Looking forward to you taking it for a ride!
Thanks for the support @winspace! Let’s keep doing cool stuff !🔥🔥
Very impressed that you guys started facing your frames after another video that criticized the lack of facing. This frame is at the top of my list for an eventual custom build.
I'm liking that you actually communicate with your customers and respond with updates to your kit, im liking this a lot.
@@simonorr5987 that lad has wiffling skills beyond his years.
Couldn’t be happier with my SLC Bar stem and Hypers and the service I received from the Winspace crew
3:29 don't let Hambini see that!
also, that guy is a total pro. nice to see him work
REALLY cool build. Lovely. For someone only 24 years old,this guy has mastered the art of bike build! Impressive. Hope you enjoy.
Needs a Hambini BB!
Ok send one out and we’ll upgrade!!!
I gain more respect for the quality build of Winspace products each time I see a video with their products. They seem to really be in top if it.
Great to hear. The proper quality is one of the reasons I’m working with them!👍🏻
9:57 ow, d-shape steerer tube, so unique
Well I never saw that before
Parts used:
► Nova2Ride Pulley wheels 10% off code "jaspernova10" 👉 bit.ly/Nova2Ride
► WINSPACE CARBON WHEELS/FRAMES, 10% off with code CYCLINGFANATICS 👉 www.winspace.cc
► SIROKO cycling KIT & GLASSES - 10% EXTRA OFF 👉 srko.co/verkuijl
I bought my Cervelo from handmade almost 2 years ago and have had fantastic service from start until now. Gijs is such a friendly professional.
Awesome to hear!👍🏻👍🏻
Lovely to watch a bike been built by a professional
Niiice. A Boca Juniors Gravel Bike! 🔵🟡🔵
Probably that is the most beautiful bike you have currently. Enjoy Jasper, and thank you for sharing this with the simple mortals!😜
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
It says in the video that "building bikes from china is not a service they normally offer", where do they think the argon 18 in the background came from!
Cervelo as well... Are they totally stupid? This is a good reason to AVOID hand made in Weesp. It's 2022 not 1960
Dude, why are you so upset?
All I said was they usually don’t build up bikes for customers that come to their shop with parts of random brands (in this case a chinese brand, Winspace). They have a certain assortment, which is selective. They have all right to since it’s their shop.
Nevertheless, they where impressed by the quality which is clearly shown in the video.
Even though argon and cervelo are made in china, they are not in the category “Chinese bike brand” like Winspace.
Don’t hate me for it, hate the industry. It’s pretty clear I don’t have a problem with Chinese in general.
🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl Your mechanic friend is happy to take a frame made in China and sold by a westerner but won't take a frame directly from China. You are an intelligent guy, an airline pilot, you must be able to see why the statements are offensive. The comment you've just made implies that everything made in China must be trash and you were amazed that it was not.
@@theillegalimmigrant9314 It's completely normal for bike shops to not take random bike parts of random bike brands they haven't worked with. There is nothing offenisve about any of those statements.
The Argon18 in the background might be manufactured in China. But it was designed, engineered, assembeled and quality controlled elsewhere. There is a difference and you know it. There is the risk that non established and unknown brands from China produce bikes that don't hold up to these quality standards.
The gold and blue just looks fantastic! 👍🏽
Thats a cracking bike man Love it
Super professional!
Beautiful paint.
🤙🏻🤙🏻
Mechanics always make bike builds look so easy. I can do it but takes me 3 or 4x's as long! Great build btw. Looks great. No rimtape is a big plus in tl in imo :) U need a booster pump with tubeless I find tho. Pita without it. Makes things so much easier!
Yep the pump I use is a booster pump but maybe you mean compressor?
@@jasperverkuijl Oh, no mines a booster but goes up to 240psi in the chamber so seems to work quite well. i hear some pumps only go up to 160/180 so maybe mine works better than some others? I like to rub some sealant around the tyre bead first which i think helps on stubborn tyres.
Nice bike 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼watching you from California
Sup cali!!!
What about any import duties and VAT?
Ask Winspace directly. I think they have different ways of shipping that would influence this.
Hey Jasper
I just wanted to let you know that your Videos keep motivating me to ride further and further. This Winter i bought my first proper bike a stevens prestige and now Upgraded it from 40mm gravel to 28mm road tires... What an incredible difference!
Dankjewel
Florian
Super cool man!!! Keep on going. Cycling is awesome!!
Wow. It looks very clean and classy with the black wall tires as opposed to the tan wall.
i thought Jasper was going to put on gold bar tape. nice video. 💙💙💙💙💙
If I had it, I may have done that 😉
Hello @jasperverkuijl, could you please comment on sizing? What is your height, leg lenght, what frame size have you ordered, and how well it fits you? Thanks.
I’m 183. Don’t know leg length my my saddle height is 76,5cm from BB to top saddle.
I have an L but I find it too big. It’s quite high in front (head tube) so can’t get my handlebar low enough for racing. Nevertheless this is great for comfort and bikepacking etc
Sweet build! Looking forward to your next videos 🤟
Thanks!
The trip we did was awesome.
That build looks mint. Very nice looking bike
I love my Winspace G2.
Great to hear!🤙🏻🤙🏻
Nice G2 build, Luv some of the features such as the OSPW rear derailleur. Looking fantastic now let’s see how it handles in the Pyrenees Jasper 🔥😜🤙
Thanks man!!
We ended up having to cancel that trip but we did something beret awesome to replace it!👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@@jasperverkuijl Great I have ordered a nova derailleur GOLD. Will look great with a gold chain on a black Matt frame 😜🤙
Hey buddy, how is the wheelset holding?
Besides bad luck on the gravel trip it’s doing great.
My HUNT 35 Carbon gravel wheels are arriving tomorrow 😁I didn't realise you don't need to put the rim tape on for the tubeless conversion
Depends on what wheels/rim you have. These ones don’t require it. Lots of brands still have holes in the rims
A "pro mechanic" is someone who gets paid to be a mechanic, like the mechanics in every bike shop everywhere
Like a round circle? 🤗
Lovely bike 😎
Not my personal choice of design but still looks great 👌👌👌
Are you not concerned the OSP will be exposed to hitting rocks/ boulder gravel type terrain?
No not really. I think it’s similar risk to a stock one. They are not that much longer I think
congrats bro!!
Tan wall tyres on gravel bikes just look the business 😎👨🏻💼
I think it’s cool indeed. 🤙🏻
I'd have gotten this in green if I didn't just get two gravel bikes. Also waiting for Winspace to make a fully internal cockpit gravel model.
Is this 1×11 ? Will the frame and wheels can get 1×12 ?
Thanks and enjoy riding!
Yes it will take 1x12. The 12 speed groupset is designed so it’s compatible to 11 spd wheels. (At least Shimano is)
10:07 Bar tape manufacturer plz
It would be nice Jasper to maybe get your thoughts comparing your steel gravel bike vs carbon gravel bike. I always thought carbon maybe too stiff and harsh.
It’s a lot lighter!
Carbon is stiff where it needs to be and flexible where it can. That’s the crazy thing of carbon, the characteristics are not the same everywhere.
So far I like it and rides like a dream 🤙🏻
Hey Jasper, do you think the oversized pulley makes a difference? Or does it just look dam good?
Just buy it for the looks if you really want to. Performance gains are debatable and marginal at best just watch some Hambini videos. If it would make a huge difference all the world tour pro's would use them
It’s for the looks. They shift well but won’t make you faster.
Nice bike! What bottom bracket did you use?
Standard that came with the grx group
Hi there, great vid. What height are you and what size did you go with? Sorry if you already mentioned it in the vid.
I didn’t mention.
Im 186cm. The bike is a size L. But in hindsight I would’ve chosen a M with a longer stem to be able to drop the stem lower and still get the reach I wanted.
@@jasperverkuijl Thanks for the reply. 180cm here. Looks like the M is the right size for me. Now to try get a groupset!!
Hey Jasper excuse the question but what region of Almere are you located? I’m looking for a first time home and almere seems a bit more affordable than the rest. From birds chirping it seems like you’re in a good nature area which I prefer
Birds fly everywhere.😉
@@jasperverkuijl I was looking at nobelhorst area and looks very family oriented which I liked. Zeewolde also seems nice but a bit farther from Ams
@@barefeg yeah nobelhorst is growing fast. 🔥
What happened with pyrenees??
Had to cancel that unfortunately. We did something different! Cool videos will come!🤙🏻
Ooohh al die tools die die gast heeft! Ik word ook fietsenmaker :)
🤣
Leuk om te zien!
Hoi Jasper, ik overweeg dit frame te kopen. Ik ben ietsje groter dan jij (1.88) op goede dagen (zadelhoogte normaliter 78.5). Ik lees hieronder dat je het frame als groot beschrijft. Zou je bij voorkeur met de L of M rijden?
Ik zou zelf achteraf een maat kleiner nemen. Heb nu L dus voorkeur naar M.
Is wel afhankelijk van je voorkeur en flexibiliteit. Ik heb graag een kleiner frame met langere stuur pen. Met een L kan ik het stuur niet laag genoeg krijgen. Daarom zou ik een M kiezen met lange stuurnok.
Met 188 moet je prima op een L passen denk ik. Afhankelijk wat voor “fit” je zoekt.
@@jasperverkuijl De L is klaar. SRAM rival Axs erop en ik ben er super content mee.
@@PeterHalferkamps top man!🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl Top om te zien hoe je gaat in de HR!
Good choice on the tape! its easy to clean looks good as well, Have fun!!
👌🏻 and it was sticky at the same time 🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl I know it's a great tape 👍👌
Hi Jasper, Awesome build first of all, can i ask, what size frame is this and how tall are you? I am 6.4ft and wondering if large will be too small or just right?
I’m 1.86 and this is a size large.
It’s quite big.
But you can find all the geometry info on the website of Winspace and you can compare some only geometry comparison tools too 🤙🏻
@@jasperverkuijl thanks so much, will take a look at the geometry
That bottom bracket didn't allow the pedals to spin very freely on the initial installation.
Does it need to though? Put some pedals on it and it will spin much longer… put the chain on and it will spin less. It’s all relative
@@jasperverkuijl More just a sign of bearing alignment and therefore one sign of care/quality by the manufacturer. It is also a small loss in performance but I doubt it makes a huge difference. Some new builds you can see them spin (without pedals) for nearly 10 seconds by comparison
@@andrewcharlton4053 Allright makes sense.
not sure if anything would ever spin light with the standard Shimano bb bearing I put in 😅
Hi, would you mind telling us the total price of this beauty? Is it indeed a lot cheaper than getting one similar gravel bike from brands like Canyon, Trek, etc?
I’ll have to do the math.
Groupset was about 1000, frame 1000, wheels 700, seat, handlebar (carbon), tires, bartape, stem etc probably about +-500. So that’s like 3300-ish?
@@jasperverkuijl euros?
@@mateagoston8145 yes
looks way better with black tires!
42 front tooth?
I don’t know sorry
You REALLY need to take more care when sewing carbon fiber... Wear respiratory protective equipment and do it outside. And definitely don't blow the carbon dust everywhere, that's a massive health risk!
while i LOVE the GRX and ride it myself, it would have been real funny to see this built with a Sensah SRX to complete the china-factor ;)
Yeah that’s an option but I wanted to build a proper bike 😅
Don’t know anything about the quality of sensah
@@jasperverkuijl not bad not great. I would say it feels a lot like a tiagra with sram style shifting.
Did you consider the Campagnolo Ekar 13s groupset?
Yea but it’s easier to keep it all Shimano so it’s compatible with everything else I have
The bike looks beautiful, just a quick remark: Dispersing the pretty carcinogenic carbon dust away with pressurized air is maybe not the best idea.
Vacuum cleaner next time 👍🏻
Weight check? 😁🤙
Yeah haven’t done that!🤷🏼♂️
mooie fiets man
Dankjewel!
10:46
Didnt he do that bartape wrong or it's just me...
He did the bar tape up super clean. What is wrong in your idea? There are so many ways to do it. I never had it come undone esther way.
🤙
even his shimano wall is almost empty ☹
1280$ for noname frameset is really overpriced.
well, winspace is getting a name you know ;)
Include the weight!!
I need to get a scale!
What is so surprising with the fact that the bike is from china - almost every bike is from china! These days ...
From china is not the same as made in china. Very wide range of quality! (Watch my Winspace wheel review where we touch on that topic too!)
Funny how people don't understand that there is still a difference between bikes from China, and bikes made in China but engineered, designed, quality control and sold by *insert established brand*.
The Mechanic is 100% well aware that all of those brands manufacture in China/Taiwan , but there is still this difference.
And yet the Winspace is arguably better engineered with better QC than most of those *established brands*
Yes absolutely. I’ve seen a few different products (carbon frames, wheels, e-bikes) from china and the spectrum of quality is very wide.
I’m glad Winspace is at the top (higher end) of that 👌🏻
This is a ugly looking bike. Sry m8
Don’t apologize, it’s your opinion 👍🏻
Has to be the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen
Nice paintjob but not the most visually pleasing frame geometry.
Let’s say it’s special 🤪
they got muscular dutch bobby hill building bikes at this shop
🤣