Ryoma: argue in chapter 1* Ryoma: gets killed in chapter 2* Tenko: first to argue in chapter 2* Tenko: gets killed in chapter 3* Miu: first to argue in chapter 3* Miu: gets murdered in chapter 4* Kokichi: doesn’t argue in chapter 4* Kokichi: gets killed in chapter 5* Kokichi tryna outsmart the system.
@@calemmontiel338 it's already been said tsumugi I already knew due to how long she been gone for and she forgot to close the trap door that was connected to the bathroom
@@thenerd-bot9847 I think the best case scenario would be that ouma finds out about the secret door keeps quite until this rebuttal showdown and once kaede refutes rantaro he steps in with the evidence. This proves she isn't the culprit but I don't know how they could prove its Tsumugi
I swear Korekiyo unknowingly knew too much. Like he noticed that Tsumugi was in the bathroom too long. If people took him more seriously then the killing game would have been over much faster. (New Danganronpa If when?)
Ryouma and Angie (and Miu at some extent) were right all along. It was just the clues to direct Tsumugi as the culprit, and the true nature of their killing game, didn't appear until the last chapter.
And they didn't believe Angie, Ryoma, and Miu. Even Korekiyo for insane reasons. All becuase the hidden room was hidden until K1-B0 starts to battle against the Exisals, hell-bent on demolishing the academy without his ahonge (antenna) That's why it hurts to watch the first trial! And the climax of the sixth one! And Tsumugi downgrading us into a complete sobbing and crying despair before K1-B0 says to "remedy the situation". Can't there EVER be a Rebuttal mode where you agree with what your opponent is saying, instead of cutting through their words? If something like this were to happen, it would be a surprising turn of events.
Fun fact about Rebuttal Showdown - Kokichi and Angie are the only one who died that never had any R.S. , despite lasting so long - Maki is the only one who had a R.S. with Shuichi 2 times and is not the culprit. She's also the only one who survived doing it - the Monokubs are the first to have R.S. in a group /more than one - Rantaro is the only one who haven't done any R.S. for understandable reason - This also makes Himiko the only surviver who haven't do any R.S. - Kiyo is the only culprit who done 2 R.S. - Shuichi is the first ever protagonist to ever go against in R.S. Ok so Update! - Technically, Kokichi DID had a r.s. well.. sorta. It was only his animation. They didnt had a full r.s. because his point was already right (credit to Beta Nagito in the reply!) - Being the first one, Ryoma was the only one who's rebuttal point was actually right all along (Credit to Anita Finley in the reply!)
Kokichi technically had a rebuttal showdown, even if just the objection animation, there was no minigame because he was right and left shuichi with no rebuttal
Someone like Ryoma who's so openly to die early....can be so intelligent. After all. He was convicted for killing a mafia after they took his comrades' lives. The court and government treated him so unsympathetically, to the point of sentencing him to death, before he ended up with the other 15 students.
The part where the killer acted like they just rushed over was exactly what happened. The front entrance photos were used to have us make the wrong assumption.
All that needed to happen was for them to connect the alibis of the 2 groups (with the dining room group having tsumugi leave for the bathroom for a suspiciously long amount of time) and then take into consideration with the fact the killer could’ve used the door that was closing in the photo. They still got a ways to go...
Ryoma was actually correct when he was in the Rebuttal with Kaede, the mastermind actually did that but went back in the hidden room and back to the girl's bathroom. (You might know who that was.)
Neither Shuichi nor Kaede were careful enough and even Monokuma was fooled by the mastermind. That is why one could believe Ryoma's testimony was not correct while it actually was...
nice catch, this and the 2nd Korekiyo one show pretty well how Kirumi was liked and trusted by everyone, while Korekiyo was considered weird, creepy and untrustworthy (my 2 favourite characters by the way)
Shuici's savageness is on point👌👌 "You don't want to die? Do you know how many of my friends were sacrificed?!" And some of the words were a bit larger to show where to pressure the point of his argument like ohmygod
Rantaro: "I don't understand your reasoning." Kaede: "This isn't the way to the truth!" Angie: "May Atua have mercy on your soul!" Himiko: "Stop tricking us!" Tsumugi: "It's all fiction!" Keebo: "Allow me to light the way!"
For both SDR2 and V3, (one of) the last rebuttal showdowns with the sad music playing in the background always get me. _"I do not want to hear that!"_ _"I reject that hope!"_
Monokuma Imagine if there was a mode where you had to play AS Monokuma, and you got contradicted, he would be like "HOW DARE YOU CONTRADICT ME I WILL TEAR YOUR HEAD OFF!"
Kaede and Shuichi's faces before the Rebuttal Showdown are just... great. Both of them have a look of "Are we seriously going to debate this?" Or in the Monokubs case, "Why am I debating with these idiots?"
Literally the only good thing the Monokubs ever did, all game, was let Shuichi read them the riot act after he's gotten fed up with these mascot antics and reminds them of the stakes.
What do you mean. It's all in virtual reality riiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttt (don't even argue almost all the cast of v3 are cinnamon rolls so shhhhh they are alive 👍)
Rebuttal Showdown Aka *Ultimate deathflags* I swear every character that has a rebuttal showdown dies in the next chapter or in that same chapter, except for maki because main heroines never die in danganronpa -except if you are called chiaki-
In Dr 2 Mahiru was the first rebuttal and she died next chapter, and same with ryoma Hmmm If there IS any more DR games, be aware of the first person to rebuttal
But in SDRA the first who had a fight is big guy but he lives to chapter 4. In other game (i dont remember) Osone was the first who had a fight but she lives too
*SPOILERS:* Ryoma's rebuttal was correct all along. That someone else was lying-in-wait (and visited the girls bathroom) in order to slaughter Rantaro mercilessly.
Yes, also miu, angie and korekiyo. Miu stated that the killer was the mastermind. Angie said that atua said the killer was behind a hidden door. Tsumugi didn't mention going to the bathroom here, however korekiyo brought up a point saying that tsumugi had went to the bathroom and was gone for a long time.
Shuichi's "I reject that hope!" really hit me hard. Those lines right there for the final rebuttal showdown were soul-shattering. Grant George nailed that moment. How despairing Shuichi was, enough that the talk of hope makes him even more emotionally unstable, to the point where he wants to die, even in vain if so... Damn, Ryoma, Monokuba, Shuichi, you all broke my heart.
Also, quick detail!!! Ryoma's Rebuttal Showdown is the only one that startes with a different theme, which subtly foreshadows he was right! Nice atention to detail right there
Ryoma's hypothesis (in his rebuttal) was actually correct. The REAL mastermind was lying in wait, then manoeuvred over to the girl's washroom, witnessed Kaede fail to throw the shot put, and headed forth into the library to kill Rantaro.
Fun Fact: The first character to engage in Rebuttal Showdown in Chapter 1 seems to always be the victim in Chapter 2. Mahiru was the first in DR2 to engage in Rebuttal Showdown and Ryoma in this game.
Михаил Бганко He didn’t choose either. He basically refused to play the game by the rules and pleaded the audience (us) to end the killing game, presumably for good.
@@emerl298 We aren't the audience tho. The audience is an entirely different entity. We are the player. Unlike the audience we don't spectate and do nothing. We actually control( or rather, we are) Shuichi. The audience is shown as people who don't care about the characters. The only thing they cared about was hope and despair.
I like how Shuichi and Kirumi are arguing with each other on both sides of Kaito while he just stands there smiling. Honestly, watching glimpses of the others during these showdowns is kind of fun.
Doesn't anyone talk about how heartbreaking the last rebuttal was. When Shuichi finally snapped with the word "hope"? I'm glad we loved Ryoma for unconsciously being right the whole time, but can't anyone acknowledged the despair Shuichi was feeling?
He brought that monopad to the library , I think there no way that’s possible, all he had on him with the student handbook monopad he didn’t the survivors perk with him , you can’t assert that it was stolen , yep yep that right
my heart can't take it by how emotional and probably on the verge of tears while Shuichi's saying his rebuttal 😭 and then debussy just makes it even sadder in a good way
All rebuttal quotes: 0:10 The fog is lifted 3:41 MIND OVER STRENGTH 6:12 this is my selfless devotion 8:39 *I've got remodel right here* 10:09 your deductions are fiction/13:02 I will not fear, I will not back down 15:09 *Gonta no can ignore that* 16:13 Don't be naive Shuichi 18:03 can I kill that logic/19:45 I'll kill your logic 21:57-25:02 That's beary wrong 27:53 (Saddest Rebuttal Showdown Ever) I reject that hope
Ryoma: The fog has lifted. Ryoma: Hmph... You still got a ways to go. Kaede: Huh? Wh-What do you mean? Ryoma: The culprit coulda been in the library before the cameras were even set. You won't be able to prove anything with weak reasoning like that. * Rebuttal Showdown begins * Ryoma: Even if we rule out the hidden door, the library's got no shortage of hiding spots. There's piles of books all over. Since the culprit was there before the cameras were placed, they could've been hiding there, y'know? They took out Rantaro, then took off. Kaede: But if the culprit killed him and ran away, wouldn't they have been caught on camera? Ryoma: Not if they went back into hiding. Right after killing Rantaro. Then once everyone's gathered round the body, all they gotta do is act like they just ran in, *rejoin everyone* and we'd be none the wiser.
Honestly, I felt very bad for the Monokubs at the final trial, Monokuma was as horrible parent enough to kill them off, Monophanie's English VA had me crying there.. (And my boy, Ryoma Hoshi we should've listened to you, you would've saved us right there.)
@@djinnhoopa7599 no, because in the first chapter, when Monokuma talks about killing them all if a murder doesn't happen, he says something about the floor covered in pink stains (implying blood)
even if Ryoma was right and they voted Tsumugi as the culprit Monokuma will still make that Kaede was the culprit even if it's not true and they picked the wrong one. (i think)
That last rebuttal...Is just depressing...On mutliple levels... The music remains somber, Shuichi is completely broken, and just wants to give into despair... He genuinely belives that Hope, is the whole reason hat countless people have died... The worst part, is *He's not entirely wrong...* After all, *us, the RL fans*, support this seires, because we want hope to win out over despiar... To feel good, knowing that at the end of all these murders, of young teens... That somehow, some ray of hope truimphed... It kind of makes you feel like scum, for enjoying these kinds of tragic narratives... And yet..To just give into despair, means the villans win...And that fans will demand a sequel... Where "the good guys" get their "Happy endings"... So really...*The game was rigged from the start...* And what do you do, when you know a game is rigged... *You don't play...*
Oh, you are saying what I'm thinking what I wanna say. True, game rigged from the start. Killing game must follow the rules. Cmiiw but, Junko herself didn't break the rule, on the last drthh, she accept the execution fair after proven wrong So unless they find a way to revived the drv3 casts, rigged killing game is a no to play Who wanna play next Danganronpa killing game knowing that mastermind can do anything they want and bend the rules to their liking?
Finally, a Danganronpa vid with all rebuttal showdowns I’m glad cause these showdowns make it seem epic. If you can, can you make all scrum debates as well? That’d be awesome
Ryoma's statement (Vs. Ryoma/The first rebuttal) sounded kind of accurate to me at first, only to find out that it was indeed correct. Even more ironic to see Kaede countering it...
I've noticed that most of the people that rebuttal, are either dead next chapter or the killer for example. Ryoma, Tenko, Kaito. All characters that had a rebuttal showdown with you well I guess it counts twice in Kaitos case
Dang it, I was hoping Kokichi's argue scene would be here... It wasn't a rebuttal showdown, but he still did the argue thing, but I can't find it anywhere other than in actual gameplay...
No matter how many times I watch it, the one between Shuichi And Keebo, my two favorite characters, gets me everytime....I swear I'm on the verge of crying because of it...
Timestamps:
0:00 Vs Ryoma
3:21 Vs Tenko
5:55 Vs Kirumi
8:30 Vs Miu
9:56 Vs Korekiyo
12:25 Vs Korekiyo V2
15:05 Vs Gonta
16:03 Vs Kaito
17:50 Vs Maki
19:42 Vs Maki V2
21:52 Vs Monokubs
24:00 Vs Monokubs V2
27:37 Vs Shuichi
THATS BEARY WRONG
Cap'nCinnamonBun didnt kokichi had one as well?
"V2"
I just realised it everyone who does a rebuttal up until kaito Dies
Cap'nCinnamonBun no vs kokichi
Ryoma: argue in chapter 1*
Ryoma: gets killed in chapter 2*
Tenko: first to argue in chapter 2*
Tenko: gets killed in chapter 3*
Miu: first to argue in chapter 3*
Miu: gets murdered in chapter 4*
Kokichi: doesn’t argue in chapter 4*
Kokichi: gets killed in chapter 5*
Kokichi tryna outsmart the system.
But still, he did a fake Rebuttal Showdown Callout in Chapter 4 and then he got killed in Chapter 5
lmao
BUT!
Kaito: Argues in chapter 4
Kaito: gets executed in chapter 5
What I find interesting is that Mahiru and Ryoma are the first to do Rebuttal Showdowns and they both end up being the victim of Chapter 2.
He would have died at chapter 7 if the killing game continued
If you rebutlled at all real or fake then you die whether killer or killie
It’s a shame that Ryoma was actually right about his hypothesis
Runtaro Amemi oh fuck
Now I'mma cry even more for ryoma
What if the mastermind had actually been exposed in chapter 1, I mean, it was possible I think...
@@calemmontiel338 it's already been said tsumugi I already knew due to how long she been gone for and she forgot to close the trap door that was connected to the bathroom
@@ZebraCake200 I'm sorry if I didn't understand properly, but I meant in the game, as in, if they took the first class trial in that direction instead
Ryoma was right the whole time
Wow, they should have listened to him...
Hey Joji what if you chose Tsimugi instead of Kaede as the culprit?
Nothing would happen. Otherwise It would be a massive spoiler...
SpriteStar97 oh. Lol xd
@@thenerd-bot9847 I think the best case scenario would be that ouma finds out about the secret door keeps quite until this rebuttal showdown and once kaede refutes rantaro he steps in with the evidence. This proves she isn't the culprit but I don't know how they could prove its Tsumugi
2:59 Ryoma just described in perfect detail what Tsumugi did to frame Kaede
TheSSGSonic It's so true it hurts
And the one thats countering this... is Kaede herself...
Delicious irony. Just imagine how Tsumugi must felt like at that moment, lol.
Drooling from happiness
Nah. Ryoma deserved to die for my amusement
Kyahahahaha! Like I care for your hope! All I care about is despair! Kyahahahahaha!
"Your deductions are fiction!"
Best rebuttal objection ever.
Especially since he
turned out to be right.
The *Real* Mastermind.
I swear Korekiyo unknowingly knew too much. Like he noticed that Tsumugi was in the bathroom too long. If people took him more seriously then the killing game would have been over much faster. (New Danganronpa If when?)
Christian How to Object someone ⭐POLITFULLY ⭐
how??
Maki: the only one to cross swords with an Ultimate Ahoge and live
Fuyuhiko, Akane, Kazuichi too in DR2.
Bunty Hunter Don't forget Miss Sonia.
Theres only one ultamate ahoge tho...
@@mirillis6083 Makoto? Hajimeme (Hajime)? Komaru? Toko? Who?
@@buntyhunter4142 basically, including Sonia, every one that survived the killing game in SDR2
Anyone noticed that Ryoma was completely right about how the murder went down. What if tsimugi was found out. How awkward would that be.
Ryouma and Angie (and Miu at some extent) were right all along. It was just the clues to direct Tsumugi as the culprit, and the true nature of their killing game, didn't appear until the last chapter.
Sertiana Putra
Maybe the next motives where to get these people out. They pretty much guess the masterminds plans.
And yet, Shuichi was still tricked into thinking Kaede is the culprit. Somehow...
He was right, but at the time, they never had enough evidence to defend Kaede.
And they didn't believe Angie, Ryoma, and Miu. Even Korekiyo for insane reasons. All becuase the hidden room was hidden until K1-B0 starts to battle against the Exisals, hell-bent on demolishing the academy without his ahonge (antenna) That's why it hurts to watch the first trial! And the climax of the sixth one! And Tsumugi downgrading us into a complete sobbing and crying despair before K1-B0 says to "remedy the situation".
Can't there EVER be a Rebuttal mode where you agree with what your opponent is saying, instead of cutting through their words? If something like this were to happen, it would be a surprising turn of events.
6:52 lol, it's funny that Kaito is just like:
"Good luck with the maid girl, Shuichi"
@Exted Me as a spirit: *w t h Katio*
That’s why I love Kaito!
Thats my sidekick
*LMAO*
we love a supportive boyfriend
Fun fact about Rebuttal Showdown
- Kokichi and Angie are the only one who died that never had any R.S. , despite lasting so long
- Maki is the only one who had a R.S. with Shuichi 2 times and is not the culprit. She's also the only one who survived doing it
- the Monokubs are the first to have R.S. in a group /more than one
- Rantaro is the only one who haven't done any R.S. for understandable reason
- This also makes Himiko the only surviver who haven't do any R.S.
- Kiyo is the only culprit who done 2 R.S.
- Shuichi is the first ever protagonist to ever go against in R.S.
Ok so Update!
- Technically, Kokichi DID had a r.s. well.. sorta. It was only his animation. They didnt had a full r.s. because his point was already right (credit to Beta Nagito in the reply!)
- Being the first one, Ryoma was the only one who's rebuttal point was actually right all along
(Credit to Anita Finley in the reply!)
Kokichi technically had a rebuttal showdown, even if just the objection animation, there was no minigame because he was right and left shuichi with no rebuttal
Omfg hi. Your here. Same i love danganronpa too
Kokichi's death....
*IT'S A LIE*
Kokichi had a R.S against Himiko
Something I’d like to say
The first one to have a rebuttal showdown in both games was the second to die
Danganronpa 2 - Mahiru
Danganronpa V3 - Ryoma
Ryoma was right all along.
And they fooled us all by putting it under the guise of a tutorial.
maybe that's the reason why Ryoma was targeted in chapter 2
StarPlaysGames Angie too! She said that Atua said that the killer came out of that door
My cinnamon bun was so smart...
The problem was that the clues that prove Ryoma's and Angie's theories would not be reveal till chapter 6.
Funny how Ryoma was actually right about the killer... for the most of it...
Someone like Ryoma who's so openly to die early....can be so intelligent. After all. He was convicted for killing a mafia after they took his comrades' lives. The court and government treated him so unsympathetically, to the point of sentencing him to death, before he ended up with the other 15 students.
@@ShanelleDonkin ouch and he died looking at his hand cuffs drowning but the game still has A WAYS TO GO
He drowned in the sink before being stuffed into the tank.
The part where the killer acted like they just rushed over was exactly what happened. The front entrance photos were used to have us make the wrong assumption.
All that needed to happen was for them to connect the alibis of the 2 groups (with the dining room group having tsumugi leave for the bathroom for a suspiciously long amount of time) and then take into consideration with the fact the killer could’ve used the door that was closing in the photo.
They still got a ways to go...
Ryoma was actually correct when he was in the Rebuttal with Kaede, the mastermind actually did that but went back in the hidden room and back to the girl's bathroom. (You might know who that was.)
It was Tsumgi. There I said it
(What's the point of not saying who it was when you spoiled the fact that it *wasn't* Keade?)
If anyone's watching this video, its already safe to assume that they finished the game already.
Sadly the first chapter does not have evidence that proves Ryoma is right.
Neither Shuichi nor Kaede were careful enough and even Monokuma was fooled by the mastermind. That is why one could believe Ryoma's testimony was not correct while it actually was...
Jack NightYT monokuma was aware of the mastermind’s plan, that it was key Evidence to reveal that the killing game was rigged.
I love the fact that when Shuichi's arguing with Kirumi he starts out losing
wow i never noticed that, thats a cool detail.
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He also starts out winning during Korekiyo's 2nd rebuttal
PusheenHart312 Vids I read that as pope-
nice catch, this and the 2nd Korekiyo one show pretty well how Kirumi was liked and trusted by everyone, while Korekiyo was considered weird, creepy and untrustworthy (my 2 favourite characters by the way)
I wonder what was Tsumugi's reaction to Ryoma in the first rebuttal showdown lol...
Tsumugi
"shit im about to turn from tsumugi shirogone to tsmugi shiroGONEa
Tsumugi: “Oh no oh no oh no! This is plainly bad!”
Tsumugi :"Oh shit oh shit oh shit"
Probably why he ended up being the next victim
Probably sweating.
Shuici's savageness is on point👌👌
"You don't want to die? Do you know how many of my friends were sacrificed?!" And some of the words were a bit larger to show where to pressure the point of his argument like ohmygod
He's completely right though the Mastermind and most of the Monokumas are responsible on the killings on his friends
kaede is proud of him
That part of the rebuttal showdown hurt TT You can really feel his anger and anguish there
Rantaro: "I don't understand your reasoning."
Kaede: "This isn't the way to the truth!"
Angie: "May Atua have mercy on your soul!"
Himiko: "Stop tricking us!"
Tsumugi: "It's all fiction!"
Keebo: "Allow me to light the way!"
What about Kokichi?
"You know I hate liars!"
sergio matheus kokichi has a rebuttal without a showdown, actually. iirc he said “It’s my turn now!”
I feel like Tsumugi will have another interjection before Chapter 6 tho
v looks neat
@@Melecie "There's a flaw in your argument!"
How is this interjection?
For both SDR2 and V3, (one of) the last rebuttal showdowns with the sad music playing in the background always get me.
_"I do not want to hear that!"_
_"I reject that hope!"_
Erika C. Wasn't there a very easy Rebuttal Showdown with Junko at the end of Danganronpa 2?
@@johnwestensnorris6391 (Late but) He is referring to the rebuttal of Sonia
Sonia And Saihara...OoOh 0-0
@@faby2857 Yes
When Chiaki reveal herself as the traitor,none of them believe it
Shuichui: “The only possibility is that Tenko was killed during the seanc-
Miu: *I GOT YA REMODEL RIGHT HERE!*
Shuichi: “Oh god damn it.”
STAB THE F U C K OUT IF TENKO
And the that clean *W H I T E* got stained blood red...
"Everyone knows you're an embarrassment to the human race, Miu!"
Anyone playing this game: counters Miu. 2 seconds later: I GOT YOUR REMODEL RIGHT HERE!
@@themochifox4790 *pink
Love all of Shuiichi's shocked faces after every interruption...
Kaede/Shuichi: "I just got contradicted? wtf?"
Monokuma Imagine if there was a mode where you had to play AS Monokuma, and you got contradicted, he would be like "HOW DARE YOU CONTRADICT ME I WILL TEAR YOUR HEAD OFF!"
Shuichi when hes close to danger : oh fuk need to become a samurai rn
Shuichi when the moods in the center : i need to fuking think stfu
Kaede and Shuichi's faces before the Rebuttal Showdown are just... great. Both of them have a look of "Are we seriously going to debate this?" Or in the Monokubs case, "Why am I debating with these idiots?"
Keebo must be like: Why, Shuichi? Why are you doing this?? Why can't you understand!?
I wish Kaede wasn't killed because they would have gotten together. You KNOW they'd be like "Remember that time during the killing game when...."
Shuichi's sass in the 6th trial is my favorite thing
I know it came out of nowhere 11/10 They surely out did themselves this time
Literally the only good thing the Monokubs ever did, all game, was let Shuichi read them the riot act after he's gotten fed up with these mascot antics and reminds them of the stakes.
I didn't mind them so much, but that was a pretty good moment.
I just love how Shuichi isn't even trying to make his words difficult to slice, he's just talking his heart out.
27:47: Over the chat box: Shuichi looks yummy
What if the executions and deaths are fake, that would explain why the outside world doesn't care if the die or kill each other
kaede is watching over her husbando
Rip best girl in drv3 ;-;
What do you mean. It's all in virtual reality riiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttt (don't even argue almost all the cast of v3 are cinnamon rolls so shhhhh they are alive 👍)
@@luvub40 It has to be, given how Kaito died of a disease that didn't exist.
25:16
Monophanie, it's already Chapter 6...
She was recently revived, so she wouldn't know which chapter it is now
Rebuttal Showdown Aka *Ultimate deathflags*
I swear every character that has a rebuttal showdown dies in the next chapter or in that same chapter, except for maki because main heroines never die in danganronpa -except if you are called chiaki-
「Loru Apollo」 OMFG YEAH I NOTICED THIS TOO
rule #1 never be the tutorial rebutal showdown character. you will die the next chapter
「Loru Apollo」 Lmao like Mahiru. Or if you're a gamer grill avoid normal people who want to be god
Yeah me too
「Loru Apollo」 Also Angie, she never had one
I swear most of the responses were "wdym?"
given how the kubs weren't even trying
@@anonluca3971 👀
@@anonluca3971 shuichi bieber, someone make this an actual thing wjdjej
In Dr 2 Mahiru was the first rebuttal and she died next chapter, and same with ryoma
Hmmm
If there IS any more DR games, be aware of the first person to rebuttal
But in SDRA the first who had a fight is big guy but he lives to chapter 4. In other game (i dont remember) Osone was the first who had a fight but she lives too
Kaoof Ooffamatsu SDRA is a fan production. Not an official game/show from Spike Chunsoft- that’s why
@@partyfavours a year late but its just a fan mad game and not canon
Spoilers for V3
I mean technically there are still 50 danganronpas left
Welp,Just get some boxes if tissues for chapter 2
The Shuichi one was so unexpected and sad..
when claire de lune started playing, a really intense shiver went through my spine
You are french?
@@poiuytnhy859 Nah its because its a song that kaede mentions a few times before getting trialed and pianoed to death.
i was legit crying in the club
You cannot just tell me how sudden it was to see Korekiyo's second rebuttal (THE FACE) and Miu rebuttals after she was contradicted and acted defeated
*SPOILERS:* Ryoma's rebuttal was correct all along. That someone else was lying-in-wait (and visited the girls bathroom) in order to slaughter Rantaro mercilessly.
Yes, also miu, angie and korekiyo.
Miu stated that the killer was the mastermind.
Angie said that atua said the killer was behind a hidden door.
Tsumugi didn't mention going to the bathroom here, however korekiyo brought up a point saying that tsumugi had went to the bathroom and was gone for a long time.
0:17 You still *_goT A WAYS TO GO_*
OtterRonpas KIRUMIS ON
*tHE mEaT bOnE*
@@mfyuq XDD
Shuichi's "I reject that hope!" really hit me hard.
Those lines right there for the final rebuttal showdown were soul-shattering. Grant George nailed that moment. How despairing Shuichi was, enough that the talk of hope makes him even more emotionally unstable, to the point where he wants to die, even in vain if so...
Damn, Ryoma, Monokuba, Shuichi, you all broke my heart.
Well, he made up for playing Leon.
Ryouma was actualy right all the time about the killer O_O
That, my friend, was fourth-wall breaking
Also, quick detail!!! Ryoma's Rebuttal Showdown is the only one that startes with a different theme, which subtly foreshadows he was right! Nice atention to detail right there
@@jacknightyt9575 that, my friend, was a fiction :-P
14:58 That no-scope, yo...
fuandon Ikr!! That was spot on perfect!!
That's right get no scoped, GET NO SCOPED
DON
Ikr I thought they weren't gonna make
Korekiyo: "Of a dense, impenetrable fog!"
Where is Ryoma when you need him? 😢
Is it because of his quote "The fog has lifted!"???
Hes dead
Cats Dilbung ya no shit
when ryoma said "the fog has lifted" I thought of tangled
English Maki just...cannot talk over the music.
Mumble mumble mumble
Mumble mumble logic
Ryoma's hypothesis (in his rebuttal) was actually correct. The REAL mastermind was lying in wait, then manoeuvred over to the girl's washroom, witnessed Kaede fail to throw the shot put, and headed forth into the library to kill Rantaro.
It hurts me that Ryoma was right.
even if they voted Tsumugi as the culprit Monokuma will still make that Kaede was the culprit even if it's not true and they picked the wrong one.
Imogene Ellsworth oh yeah... o-o
Both of them are so smart :3
11:06 Miu just screaming like “OH DAMN YOU GET HIM SHUICHI
Fun Fact: The first character to engage in Rebuttal Showdown in Chapter 1 seems to always be the victim in Chapter 2. Mahiru was the first in DR2 to engage in Rebuttal Showdown and Ryoma in this game.
So Chihiro would've been the first rebuttal showdown if Thh had rebuttal showdowns
The music for Shuichi's rebuttal showdown seems like it would fit for a sad ending...
Little Eli Guy it's the music that Kaede mentioned to Shuichi in chapter 1 and later on played after her death 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
MissHappyGirl Oh...
Shuichi's depressive theme
I'm still sad about the last rebrutall showdown :( It's killing my heart
Altroughl, Shuichi was totally right about that hope isn't a choice(But wrong about Despair is the choice)
Михаил Бганко He didn’t choose either. He basically refused to play the game by the rules and pleaded the audience (us) to end the killing game, presumably for good.
@@emerl298 We aren't the audience tho. The audience is an entirely different entity. We are the player. Unlike the audience we don't spectate and do nothing. We actually control( or rather, we are) Shuichi. The audience is shown as people who don't care about the characters. The only thing they cared about was hope and despair.
15:43 "No one can use toilet paper"
Me: Yeah, because it's so rare you couldn't even find them in the grocery store anymore
So you use rope instead of toilet paper?
@@ImsbananaS. hell I'm not imagining that.
@@ImsbananaS. nahh you use black fabric 🤠💅✨
@@angelic4mimi nah you use a rag
I like how Shuichi and Kirumi are arguing with each other on both sides of Kaito while he just stands there smiling.
Honestly, watching glimpses of the others during these showdowns is kind of fun.
0/10 no "Allow me to cut through those words!"
It's Me, Sam. I liked Keebo's
"I will cut down your words!"
Lol
Doesn't anyone talk about how heartbreaking the last rebuttal was. When Shuichi finally snapped with the word "hope"?
I'm glad we loved Ryoma for unconsciously being right the whole time, but can't anyone acknowledged the despair Shuichi was feeling?
So the only reason Ryoma has a rebuttal is for the sake of just having some screentime. Oh well I noticed that right away.
Not really, he's just smart.
22:49 "Someone stole the Survivor Perk Mo n O _P A A A A_ D!?!?!?!"
Where is da proof(proof, proof, proof)
There no way there is a bloody thief !!!!!!!!!!
But remember, Rantaro brought the Survivor Perk Monopad to the library,If is missing now,that must mean someone stole it!
He brought that monopad to the library , I think there no way that’s possible, all he had on him with the student handbook monopad he didn’t the survivors perk with him , you can’t assert that it was stolen , yep yep that right
I'll cut through your words
14:54 I'm suprised you still got that V in time!
There was no evidence anywhere *WaS ThErE ShUIChI*
I like Ryoma, I wish he lived longer. I feel like he’d be a cool character
my heart can't take it by how emotional and probably on the verge of tears while Shuichi's saying his rebuttal 😭
and then debussy just makes it even sadder in a good way
4:28 Miu is just like: Damn this is good
All rebuttal quotes:
0:10 The fog is lifted
3:41 MIND OVER STRENGTH
6:12 this is my selfless devotion
8:39 *I've got remodel right here*
10:09 your deductions are fiction/13:02 I will not fear, I will not back down
15:09 *Gonta no can ignore that*
16:13 Don't be naive Shuichi
18:03 can I kill that logic/19:45 I'll kill your logic
21:57-25:02 That's beary wrong
27:53 (Saddest Rebuttal Showdown Ever) I reject that hope
Kirumi is very VERBOSE when she is angery
K1 B0 looked so sad when shuichi said ‘mate I ain’t having that hope’
Ryoma: The fog has lifted.
Ryoma: Hmph... You still got a ways to go.
Kaede: Huh? Wh-What do you mean?
Ryoma: The culprit coulda been in the library before the cameras were even set. You won't be able to prove anything with weak reasoning like that.
* Rebuttal Showdown begins *
Ryoma: Even if we rule out the hidden door, the library's got no shortage of hiding spots. There's piles of books all over. Since the culprit was there before the cameras were placed, they could've been hiding there, y'know? They took out Rantaro, then took off.
Kaede: But if the culprit killed him and ran away, wouldn't they have been caught on camera?
Ryoma: Not if they went back into hiding. Right after killing Rantaro. Then once everyone's gathered round the body, all they gotta do is act like they just ran in, *rejoin everyone* and we'd be none the wiser.
Damn it, he was right the whole timee RAWahH
0:16 i love ryomas pose
Sad thing is. Ryoma was right.
Hypocritically right! I guess being a hypocrite has its advantages!
That last one where you get to play as best robotboi for the tiniest bit
You mean Keebo
Jack NightYT Or "K1-B0".
Some of these came so unexpectedly, they scared me.
I just realized, does Korekiyo's chest grow when his sister "takes control?"
I didnt notice this.
But thanks for telling this detail
0:10 THIS was the moment when I realized Ryoma wasn't living for long
No matter how much I PRAYED for him to live...
Kaito: she's not just an object you know
Shiuchi: Thats WRONG
Respect Women 100
SORE WA CHIGUA YO
Honestly, I felt very bad for the Monokubs at the final trial, Monokuma was as horrible parent enough to kill them off, Monophanie's English VA had me crying there..
(And my boy, Ryoma Hoshi we should've listened to you, you would've saved us right there.)
About 27:47
"Shuichi looks yummy"
Shuichi:
*WTF?! IM NOT SOME KIND OF FOOD!!!!*
Kirumis was the most intense to me, she was so wordy and collected with it you almost want to believe she’s telling the truth
If you think about it, if Ryoma lived he could've supported Shuichi all the way with their deduction skills.
Ryoma's insanely smart
Yea. Outside of Kokichi, he was the closest to figuring out the truth
I’m sorry I love the detail of “Clair De Lune” playing during Shuichi’s showdown instead of the usual music. It just fits too well.
25:33
we all know shuichi has no mercy for them monokubs
mmm
Chapter 06: Super Sa--- did that just say Shuichi yummy
9:27 blood red?? I thought the blood in this world was pink lol
Its probably only pink to the "audience"
True, true
Same thing happens in DR1 with Hifumi's "death" in chapter 3.
@@djinnhoopa7599 no, because in the first chapter, when Monokuma talks about killing them all if a murder doesn't happen, he says something about the floor covered in pink stains (implying blood)
@@PeterLiu-wl2ox he's the "producer", he would know about the censorship
27:45
"Shuichi looks yummy
Lmao
But she might agree
Ryoma Was right the entire time
even if Ryoma was right and they voted Tsumugi as the culprit Monokuma will still make that Kaede was the culprit even if it's not true and they picked the wrong one. (i think)
Would have been cool if you included Kokichi's fake one.
"ITS MY TURN NOW"
7:01 I love how it’s so intense and then kaito is just like 😁👍
That last rebuttal...Is just depressing...On mutliple levels...
The music remains somber, Shuichi is completely broken, and just wants to give into despair...
He genuinely belives that Hope, is the whole reason hat countless people have died...
The worst part, is *He's not entirely wrong...*
After all, *us, the RL fans*, support this seires, because we want hope to win out over despiar...
To feel good, knowing that at the end of all these murders, of young teens...
That somehow, some ray of hope truimphed...
It kind of makes you feel like scum, for enjoying these kinds of tragic narratives...
And yet..To just give into despair, means the villans win...And that fans will demand a sequel...
Where "the good guys" get their "Happy endings"...
So really...*The game was rigged from the start...*
And what do you do, when you know a game is rigged...
*You don't play...*
Oh, you are saying what I'm thinking what I wanna say.
True, game rigged from the start. Killing game must follow the rules. Cmiiw but, Junko herself didn't break the rule, on the last drthh, she accept the execution fair after proven wrong
So unless they find a way to revived the drv3 casts, rigged killing game is a no to play
Who wanna play next Danganronpa killing game knowing that mastermind can do anything they want and bend the rules to their liking?
Finally, a Danganronpa vid with all rebuttal showdowns I’m glad cause these showdowns make it seem epic. If you can, can you make all scrum debates as well? That’d be awesome
Ryoma's statement (Vs. Ryoma/The first rebuttal) sounded kind of accurate to me at first, only to find out that it was indeed correct.
Even more ironic to see Kaede countering it...
Ryoma:someone else might be the killer. Kaede:no I am the killer
@@theguyman256 game:nah b
"You've still got a ways to go"
Yes we do Ryoma, yes we do.
ryoma's voice still hunts me
17:34 Kaito respecc wahmen.
korekiyo's "of a dense impenetrable fog" is probably my favorite voice line from this game
I've noticed that most of the people that rebuttal, are either dead next chapter or the killer for example. Ryoma, Tenko, Kaito. All characters that had a rebuttal showdown with you well I guess it counts twice in Kaitos case
Shuichi is so badass that even when he loses a rebuttal showdown he wins the argument.
12:56 Me during a test when I dont study
*I will fear. I will back down.*
I will no fear. i'm won't back down
*I will not fear, i will not back down.*
@@NightmareKana **immediately fears and backs down after overturning the exam paper**
@@mafublog XD
Can we all agree Ryoma is a flippin’ genius?
Miu: And then clean white sheet got stain blood red!
Me: BUT THE BLOOD IS PINK!
To them the blood IS red, to us, the players, it’s pink. Because the pink is used to censor the blood (in a way.)
Dang it, I was hoping Kokichi's argue scene would be here...
It wasn't a rebuttal showdown, but he still did the argue thing, but I can't find it anywhere other than in actual gameplay...
Everyone: justice for Ryoma, he has the only correct rebuttal
No one: Shuichi: I REJECT THAT HOPE!!!
God exists
And he is good
his name is atua
He doesn't exist, and even if he does, numbers 31 17-18 disproves him being "good".
@@blueworld1825 this was a comment from 6 years ago I’m an atheist now bruh
Also I know Kokichis Rebuttal showdown isn’t really one but I wou,d want to see that scene again
It's a shame, that Kokichi didn't participate in Rebuttal showdown
And Angie
And Himiko
And Rantaro
Angie:belive in atua
Himiko:my magic will show true
Rantaro:that’s not what I think
And Tsumugi
@@Dragonmongamer should've been Tsumugi instead if the Monokubs fr
Kiibo and Tsumugi too
Looking back on this game, Kiyo’s VA poured his heart out for this role
Yeah. I thought this too. His voice actor did great. He genuinely sounded like a madman
*I REJECTED THAT HOPE*
27:52
"Dancing in the dark"
Would have been the perfect song to fit
No matter how many times I watch it, the one between Shuichi And Keebo, my two favorite characters, gets me everytime....I swear I'm on the verge of crying because of it...
So Kiyo, if you have any objections, you can-
*OBJECTION!*
I like kaito's rebuttal cuz you can see his sprite next to shuichi change as well
And Miu's