Early Gould pump jacks used leather seals, these pumps dated back to the 30’s. Gould still makes quality pumps, my Dad was on board of directors many years ago.
Hello from the 15th largest brewery in the US, we still to this day buy a myriad of parts from Goulds for our city water booster system, carbon filtration system and UV systems - if it's weirdly particular, chances are it comes from Gould. I've come across many parts we've ordered from them.
We had a sucker rod pump exactly like that growing up on our farm in the 50’s. The leather seals would wear out and we would have to pull the rods. Each rod was about 12 feet long made of cypress cut into a one inch triangle with metal connectors screwed to each end that were screwed together to connect the rods. On one pull my dad lost grip on the rod and it fell into the well. He made hook out of a steel rod and ground a barb on the tip. We fished for the lost pump rod for hours and finally got and the lost rods out. I was so happy to see that rod come up out of the well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time.
I have been machining for 20 years and spent several servicing water pumps for Municipals and Agriculture and goulds pumps are still in business. That pump should go to a museum.
It's a rod pump. A wooden rod runs down the center of the pipe and operates a piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. The small broken plunger was an air pump to charge the water tank. An air release on the tank would keep it from becoming air bound. These pumps were very common as deep well pumps from the early 1900's until the 1960's, The part cut out was the check valve to prevent water backflow to the well.
I remember that pump and the gawoosh-gawoosh sound it made. When I was a little kid (early 1950's) my grandparents had an insulated pump house on their farm that also served as a root cellar for my grandmother's canned vegetables and jellies. Big green-tint glass mason jars. The door to the pump house was thick and heavy and it was dark inside. I was really scared of that pump. Sometimes when it was quiet, I would crack the door and peek in for an adrenaline rush. When it came on, I would jump out of my skin, slam the door and run, hoping that monster wouldn't break free and chase me.
I cant believe this well was ripped out. At the least it could ha e been left alone and used as a secondary emergency or auxiliary well. Or put new seals and refurbish the mechanism and keep using for another 80 years.
This is probably your most interesting service call, but I always enjoy watching your videos. That old equipment is further proof how good old American machinery was made back when companies cared to, and could afford to built quality products. Most likely original capacitor on that Wagner motor too.
Just pull the pipe out, change out the leathers and the bottom screen, reseal the threads, put in a new rod, some guide sleeves, put back down the hole and set it right, it'll last another 75 years.
Looked like it was working fine. Just needed to repack the rod seal. The leathers were obviously still good as it pumped up. And it is really hard to pull good leathers. Don't see many of his videos but if his dad is still around he should remember pump Jack's and sucker rod. Last 1 I worked on we pulled over 200 ft of wooden rods. 1 broke and after changing the leathers 3 more times we learned that you have to put it back to the exact same depth in the smooth part of the casing or it will tear the leathers up in a day that jack is not as old as you may think if it is more than 25 foot deep a more reliable system that would have ran almost forever if properly maintained a couple times a year.
@@kevinroberts9394 customer wanted more volume i bet . 30yrs ago i was in the exact same situation put our rod could be pulled out. 80 ft. it was only 2 inch pump. used 1/2 inch pipe as the pull rod. couldn't get enough water for modern living. maybe 1-2 gal / minute tops
If you watch till the end of the video he explains why the homeowner wanted a new well pump. It's an air bnb. That's why he was changing it out. So it could be easily serviced and sanitized.
I knew there’d be people in the comments complaining that they should have rebuilt this horrible contraption lol. Easy to say when you aren’t doing it, paying for it, or relying on it for your house.
My dad built a pump system using a similar sucker rod pump It was very reliable, and used an electric pump to drive pump. This brought back some very fond and distant memories of my Dad and me working on and maintaining our pump system.
The chunk you threw down was the check valve. The sucker rod with the pump on the bottom should have come out by pulling on it. That is the way those pumps were supposed to be fixed or releathered. The numbers on the casting side is the pattern number for the casting instead of a date. Our house in MI had a reciprocating piston pump so the water level was less than 25 feet.
You are limited to about 25 feet only if you have a suction pump, which that pump isn't. I don't know why you were unable to pull out the lift rod. The pump was lifting water, as proven by it building pressure in the water tank, so the piston at the bottom was free. It may be that there is corrosion above and below the area the piston contacts - it wouldn't take a lot to jamb the pipe.
My grandparents had one. no tank. just a knife switch on the wall. throw it on and out came rusty water. today you pumped tomorrows water. we let it slake off over night. the rust would settle on the bottom. we were left with cool sweet water. I also had one years later. it was my older pump that did not work. some oakum a belt and some grease and it was better water than my newer well. I have not heard that sound in many, many years. what a cool sound. thank you...kind of made me think of hot biscuits out of the wood fired oven...Man Man
We Had That Same Pump Growing Up!! When The Power Was Off For Weeks Due To Tornado Damage We Cut A Door In The Blocks And Used A Motor Cycle To Spin The Pump So We Would Have Water To Cook With On Our Coleman Camping Stove!
That system should be cleaned up and donated to a museum with a plaque showing that it was donated by that homeowner with a history of that well pump. I think that would be pretty cool.
My grandfather installed a hand operated well on his property around 1960 with a similar mechanism. The well was 90m deep, the water was around 18m below ground. They lowered a 4" pump cylinder on 1 1/4" galvanized pipe about 24m deep into an 8" well. The piston inside the cylinder was connected by a 3/8" rod to an arm at the top. You could buy these cast iron pumps in the hardware store, they were intended for water depths about 3m, with our setup it was extremely hard to pump (I as a kid was unable to push the arm down, I wasn't heavy enough). Later my dad converted to a submersible 3-phase pump with 4" diameter, we installed a 5" plastic casing inside and filled the gap with pea gravel. Still providing water for the lawn today. I came from Germany, so the house has 400V 3-phase power (230V per phase), and no fancy electronics box, just an old fashioned pressure switch with 3 contacts instead of 2.
That old gould pump will probably outlast 2 modern pumps and around 80 years old now. American made used to mean something. America built products that were built to last and be serviced. I have a refrigerator and deep freezer built in the 30s and both work like new. We have a gas stove from the 30s and a pair of gas parlor stoves we use for heat and both work great. Everything was salvaged from. An old mansion and we're totally restored. You cant buy that kind of quality and reliability anymore. I restored cars for over 35 years and restored a 1953 caddilac and after we were done we were amazed how cold the ac system was in that car. On a 110 deg day the ac would freeze you out. Its a shame American made Isn't what it used to be. We used to build the best looking cars and now we build over priced plastic junk . Truly a shame.
This is the second time I've watched this and I'm fascinated by that old pump how it keept working for so long they don't make them like that anymore I never miss your videos iv got a 290ft well here in rural Ireland myself iv pulled the pump up a couple of times in the last 25 years I'm dreading the next time it happens I'm nearly 70 not as strong as I used to be
Google Track Industries in Christchurch New Zealand, pretty sure they still manufacture a new Anderson deepwell rod pumps,beautifully engineered and smooth running pump gearing
Amazing effort to save this well. I'm delighted that you took video of the old pump working one last time. That whole place is a time capsule. It's great that the owner is keeping the old pump unit.
Brings back memories of working on an old reciprocating pump run by electric motor. It was in a basement because the house was added onto in the 40s or early 50s. Two 100 gallon galvanized pressure tanks. They had microscopic leaks below the water lines. I moved away before that became a disaster or someone else got to replace it.
I lived in Seneca Falls in the late 1960's. Gould pumps and the birth of the Women's suffrage movement was what Seneca Falls was famous for. I really enjoy your videos. They are very informative.
Serviced these deepwell pumps for 45 odd years,many different brands,Anderson, Mcewens,Davies etc,if you didnt have a wind mill you usually had a deep well plunger pump ,not much else before submersibles came into play bar ram style pumps
Pretty cool find I would love to have that pump that old stuff amazes me. This well is almost like servicing a oil well with that packing box over the wellhead . Sad that the well couldn't be saved but that's the way things go and you learned and gained experience so it's a successful day.
That piece you cut off was a Check Valve . My Great Grandmother had a converted windmill well hers was a gravity feed style not a pressure style it had an overhead water tank that fed the house . Hers had almost the same gear box it may have been a bit older .
It is called a working head. Has a cylinder on the bottom and a form of one on the top they were used on low output wells. You can use a monitor pump jack and a brass cylinder modified and mounted upside down for the top end.. some folks used Jensen jacks which did the same job but looked like mini oil field pumps.The Great Plains area will keep wellmen on their toes at least they have kept me learning for the last 35 years
Was a pretty common way to convert from windmill to electric pump using old sucker rod system. This being when rural electric power came to be. These old pumpjacks still show up in farm sales up here in the northern midwest.
Pump jack is the proper term for the device Shirley Coleman for converting a wind-driven pump AKA windmill operated pump such as these two Electric and yes on the world notification leading to this being converted to Electric Power. Once saw an old systemware firm power had been used as in DC low voltage surprisingly pretty much all the receptacles from the same as well as bulb bases so just be aware out there if you have some antique electrical equipment of various types and other devices check the voltage and sometimes things may be DC only as well. I was call bus and wanted and moved into a farm and what kind of baffled no power they could not find any indication that there was a connection to the grid but clearly at one point there was electricity and of course no meter nor normal service entrance. Even in ancient Antiquated one at all. However there was Warren running all over the place. Was checking things out where there was little white picture just looked in there add the bulb and said aha ha. Salsa appliances said ditto and so on right down to the old Kirby vacuum in the closet. Everything there was designed ran off low voltage DC. And was going around various places of the property shine my flashlight name of the outbuildings and said well there's your service entrance basically a big fuse board literally not even a fuse box just something that looks like more like out of Frankenstein not necessarily typical for the system but every once in a while you can see something like this apparently according to some old guys that still knew about this headband over the years. It was what was referred to as farm power I think it was 40 some odd bowls cannot remember what the voltage usually is. Don't think it was 36 but might have been at one point And the old batteries were still there even some of them still had acid in them! Glass jar lead acid batteries! There was a gasoline generator as well apparently that one was equipped for automatic start the thing is there were batteries but it is could be run by just turning on a load in the generator starting and of course topping up the batteries while in use the idea on that system was the batteries could be used without having the generator run constantly sometimes the generator was just ran by itself and other times it was a combination of batteries and in various different setups. By the way that place also had an acetylene generator for carbine lighting it looked as though they had used both not sure which was first or that originally it was gas but some of the fixtures had both Gas and Electric it's possible some of this was pre-wired for the system before it was installed don't know the full history of the place. For example the kitchens and acetylene gas stove that would have been run from the acetylene lighting plant did the settling generator was in a separate outbuilding that was essentially a big concrete box some people thought these were actually a storm shelter and in many cases were used for this after the system for the assembling lighting plant in head removed for good. Another interesting system that was on the property was using the some people call it Airgas but I'm not sure of the proper term for this. Essentially an underground giant enormous carburetor apparently would have wicks in there to get gasoline to pay for us and there would be some sort of lower possibly a Roots blower in some cases what are would be pumped into there and then the resulting air in fuel vapor what's my back and used for lighting. There was no connection as far as I know to the house with this but there was some stuff that was capped off maybe the acetylene have been used for one part and the other for another or one system superseded the other but I'm feeling they're both working around the same time period and there was a bit different fixtures and sometimes even electric and the two fixtures for these two different systems in the same building so hard to say what happened
The farm behind ours had alote of the same stuff in a shred behind the slave house big glass bottles with wires coming out the brick summer kitchen was bigger than some small homes.slave house has fire place so big it divided the house in halves.
I had friends use pump jacks like that powered by gas engine ( ie 5HP Briggs with horizontal shaft) in the Dakotas to water cattle on parcels that are not close to power. Suppose they could use a generator and motor like your setup.
Exactly the setup at may grandparents house up till the mid 70s when they made everyone go on to city water. He still used it to water the garden. And to drink water way better than the city had to offer.
Why? Do you like an oil contaminated water supply? Rewatch the beginning when the pump kicked in. There's the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water that leaks past the pump. That oil comes from the open side of the gearbox. The oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks past the pump piston, then oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't care how robust that old system may be, it's a health hazard. Not to mention all the poison from all that rust. It's so rusted that you can't even repack the seals so it won't leak. The old pump had it's day, and Long life. It's time to move on to something that won't posion it's owners.
They bought the house to rent out! I know from my past as a real estate agent that the well either passes or fails water quality and flow tests! I’m guessing the well failed inspection or the water samples fails due to oil and dirt contamination! It would have been a condition of the mortgage company that the well was replaced either b4 closing on the property or money was placed in escrow to pay for new well or retrofit of existing!
@@kenwillis8487 Exactly. Just because an old item is robust, it does not mean it has not out lived it useful life or overall better in it's current use.
The water was not safe to use as it was it was even stated in the video it would not pass current water standards. Also it was already partially broken and looked ready to break any time. Its just too bad we dont get to see them pulling out the 2 inch casing and drilling a new well
@@danmerillat What are you doing to well pumps that you're replacing starter caps that often? My neighbors and I are all on about 12 years without pumps without issues....
The pump was made about 35 miles from where I live, Seneca Falls, NY. They're still I business, I used to deliver steel to the factory in the 70's....1970s!
Wow built during the height of WW2. Just 3 days after that motor left the assembly line, the Allied troops bombed Iwo Jima. On the specific day it was made, Joseph Goebbels announced the V-2 rocket campaign.
My parents'house in the 70's had the same setup and worked great! Theirs was in a vault that was located under ground and had a manhole cover for access.
But why take one that that will outlast any new pump even after already used for 80 years? Should just rebuild all that in there, new seals fix that rod and get another 80 years.
@@kevamor The biggest problem with the old pump is it will NOT supply water at a rate suitable for today's demands. It was installed long before people had hot showers, flush toilets, and washing machines. Matter of fact, I doubt the well yield can keep up with a family of four, which will be over 400 gallons a day at today's standard.
When the deep well cylinder gets stuck in the well causing it takes lots of patience by pulling it up & pushing it down to clear & scrap some of the corrosion from the insides of the casing. It can take lots of time, but eventually with perseverance you will get the deep well cylinder out!
Early Gould pump jacks used leather seals, these pumps dated back to the 30’s. Gould still makes quality pumps, my Dad was on board of directors many years ago.
I used to install and service Goulds Pumps back in the early/mid 1980's.
I love how comments on UA-cam bring historical connections like this. Cheers to your pops
They make most of them cheap in China now. Motors too. Sad to see another once good company selling junk and coasting on their name.
It was acquired by another company called Xylem.
Hello from the 15th largest brewery in the US, we still to this day buy a myriad of parts from Goulds for our city water booster system, carbon filtration system and UV systems - if it's weirdly particular, chances are it comes from Gould. I've come across many parts we've ordered from them.
Let's give props to current and previous owners, who kept up the oil level AND passed on the information of how to do it.
We had a sucker rod pump exactly like that growing up on our farm in the 50’s. The leather seals would wear out and we would have to pull the rods. Each rod was about 12 feet long made of cypress cut into a one inch triangle with metal connectors screwed to each end that were screwed together to connect the rods. On one pull my dad lost grip on the rod and it fell into the well. He made hook out of a steel rod and ground a barb on the tip. We fished for the lost pump rod for hours and finally got and the lost rods out. I was so happy to see that rod come up out of the well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time.
I have been machining for 20 years and spent several servicing water pumps for Municipals and Agriculture and goulds pumps are still in business. That pump should go to a museum.
It's a rod pump. A wooden rod runs down the center of the pipe and operates a piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. The small broken plunger was an air pump to charge the water tank. An air release on the tank would keep it from becoming air bound. These pumps were very common as deep well pumps from the early 1900's until the 1960's, The part cut out was the check valve to prevent water backflow to the well.
you are absolutely correct11
This right here is what I love about this channel. There is so much knowledge and people happy to share.
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@@dennislee444That's not much of an argument.
LOL...!!@@dennislee444
That pump needs to be restored and put on display.
Yes!!!
I have the same pump on my milk house. I was told it was 92 years old not sure. But still works as of today.
built obsolescence wasnt a thing yet ...that was when things were made right
I like plumbing that was a good video that looks to be what my brother work on when he started doing plumbing work stay prayed up and stay motivated
I remember that pump and the gawoosh-gawoosh sound it made. When I was a little kid (early 1950's) my grandparents had an insulated pump house on their farm that also served as a root cellar for my grandmother's canned vegetables and jellies. Big green-tint glass mason jars. The door to the pump house was thick and heavy and it was dark inside. I was really scared of that pump. Sometimes when it was quiet, I would crack the door and peek in for an adrenaline rush. When it came on, I would jump out of my skin, slam the door and run, hoping that monster wouldn't break free and chase me.
man oh man to be a kid again 😂😂😂😂
Great memory!!
😅😁😁😁 ! .
I bet Goulds/ ITT Corp. would love to have that pump mechanism in their museum. Or even the Seneca Falls Historical Society.
Thank heavens this equipment is being kept in a collection! Losing such a beautiful peace of history would hurt my heart something fierce.
I cant believe this well was ripped out. At the least it could ha e been left alone and used as a secondary emergency or auxiliary well. Or put new seals and refurbish the mechanism and keep using for another 80 years.
I worked at Goulds in Seneca Falls for about 20 years. Neat to see old equipment still in use.
This is probably your most interesting service call, but I always enjoy watching your videos. That old equipment is further proof how good old American machinery was made back when companies cared to, and could afford to built quality products. Most likely original capacitor on that Wagner motor too.
Just pull the pipe out, change out the leathers and the bottom screen, reseal the threads, put in a new rod, some guide sleeves, put back down the hole and set it right, it'll last another 75 years.
They don't know how to do that it's before their time so they basically disabled it and now they have nothing
Looked like it was working fine. Just needed to repack the rod seal. The leathers were obviously still good as it pumped up. And it is really hard to pull good leathers. Don't see many of his videos but if his dad is still around he should remember pump Jack's and sucker rod. Last 1 I worked on we pulled over 200 ft of wooden rods. 1 broke and after changing the leathers 3 more times we learned that you have to put it back to the exact same depth in the smooth part of the casing or it will tear the leathers up in a day that jack is not as old as you may think if it is more than 25 foot deep a more reliable system that would have ran almost forever if properly maintained a couple times a year.
@@kevinroberts9394 customer wanted more volume i bet . 30yrs ago i was in the exact same situation put our rod could be pulled out. 80 ft. it was only 2 inch pump. used 1/2 inch pipe as the pull rod. couldn't get enough water for modern living. maybe 1-2 gal / minute tops
If you watch till the end of the video he explains why the homeowner wanted a new well pump. It's an air bnb. That's why he was changing it out. So it could be easily serviced and sanitized.
I knew there’d be people in the comments complaining that they should have rebuilt this horrible contraption lol. Easy to say when you aren’t doing it, paying for it, or relying on it for your house.
That old pump belongs in a museum
My dad built a pump system using a similar sucker rod pump It was very reliable, and used an electric pump to drive pump. This brought back some very fond and distant memories of my Dad and me working on and maintaining our pump system.
The chunk you threw down was the check valve. The sucker rod with the pump on the bottom should have come out by pulling on it. That is the way those pumps were supposed to be fixed or releathered. The numbers on the casting side is the pattern number for the casting instead of a date.
Our house in MI had a reciprocating piston pump so the water level was less than 25 feet.
i had one 80 ft deep
You are limited to about 25 feet only if you have a suction pump, which that pump isn't. I don't know why you were unable to pull out the lift rod. The pump was lifting water, as proven by it building pressure in the water tank, so the piston at the bottom was free. It may be that there is corrosion above and below the area the piston contacts - it wouldn't take a lot to jamb the pipe.
I agree with you a modern pump in 80 years will be fkd every😅5 t 7 years and then replace with more rubbish
That is the coolest old setup I've ever seen. If it were mine I'd definitely restore it to like new.
My Mom, born in 1920, used a slightly different term for what you termed the leather wiper. She called it the sucker washer.
This thing is Amazing and still working 80 yrs later . I agree with you I would want to keep it as well.
In Mn, those are all over the upper nw corner of the state. They are called "pumpjacks". Our well was over 200' deep, and they do work!
It’s great showing us this antique well. Sad it was destroyed.
Made in AMERICA and that’s why it still hold the test of time. Amazing stuff to see.
My grandparents had one. no tank. just a knife switch on the wall. throw it on and out came rusty water. today you pumped tomorrows water. we let it slake off over night. the rust would settle on the bottom. we were left with cool sweet water. I also had one years later. it was my older pump that did not work. some oakum a belt and some grease and it was better water than my newer well. I have not heard that sound in many, many years. what a cool sound. thank you...kind of made me think of hot biscuits out of the wood fired oven...Man Man
Thanks for sharing the failures as well as the success
We Had That Same Pump Growing Up!! When The Power Was Off For Weeks Due To Tornado Damage We Cut A Door In The Blocks And Used A Motor Cycle To Spin The Pump So We Would Have Water To Cook With On Our Coleman Camping Stove!
When something is way over than you and never seen one before. Its best to leave it alone. The antiques were made to last.
Made back when things were made to work properly, to last, and to be repairable.
That pump is so cool! would be fun to rebuild it!
I love that old stuff
My grandmother had one just like that. When that pump started, it brought back a flood of memories. Thanks
My cousin is a supervisor at Goulds pumps located just outside Chicago. Great American made quality.
Why did I find it sad to see this old American built pump that still works have to be removed. 😢❤
I also detest air bnb. 😂
That’s a piece you take back and put on your shelf what a cool find !
That system should be cleaned up and donated to a museum with a plaque showing that it was donated by that homeowner with a history of that well pump. I think that would be pretty cool.
My grandfather installed a hand operated well on his property around 1960 with a similar mechanism. The well was 90m deep, the water was around 18m below ground. They lowered a 4" pump cylinder on 1 1/4" galvanized pipe about 24m deep into an 8" well. The piston inside the cylinder was connected by a 3/8" rod to an arm at the top. You could buy these cast iron pumps in the hardware store, they were intended for water depths about 3m, with our setup it was extremely hard to pump (I as a kid was unable to push the arm down, I wasn't heavy enough). Later my dad converted to a submersible 3-phase pump with 4" diameter, we installed a 5" plastic casing inside and filled the gap with pea gravel. Still providing water for the lawn today. I came from Germany, so the house has 400V 3-phase power (230V per phase), and no fancy electronics box, just an old fashioned pressure switch with 3 contacts instead of 2.
That old gould pump will probably outlast 2 modern pumps and around 80 years old now. American made used to mean something. America built products that were built to last and be serviced. I have a refrigerator and deep freezer built in the 30s and both work like new. We have a gas stove from the 30s and a pair of gas parlor stoves we use for heat and both work great. Everything was salvaged from. An old mansion and we're totally restored. You cant buy that kind of quality and reliability anymore.
I restored cars for over 35 years and restored a 1953 caddilac and after we were done we were amazed how cold the ac system was in that car.
On a 110 deg day the ac would freeze you out. Its a shame American made
Isn't what it used to be. We used to build the best looking cars and now we build over priced plastic junk . Truly a shame.
@@w124mercedes7 Hedge fund traitors and crooked politicians saw a way to get rich selling the rest of us out.
85% of you should help this man out and give him the Christmas he deserves 🎄
Thats a piece of history man
This is the second time I've watched this and I'm fascinated by that old pump how it keept working for so long they don't make them like that anymore I never miss your videos iv got a 290ft well here in rural Ireland myself iv pulled the pump up a couple of times in the last 25 years I'm dreading the next time it happens I'm nearly 70 not as strong as I used to be
One of the best videos You have posted. Very interesting.
They made stuff properly back in the day made in America built tough
We had a windmill pump well it was awesome
Yep, you fixed it.
Google Track Industries in Christchurch New Zealand, pretty sure they still manufacture a new Anderson deepwell rod pumps,beautifully engineered and smooth running pump gearing
Amazing effort to save this well. I'm delighted that you took video of the old pump working one last time.
That whole place is a time capsule. It's great that the owner is keeping the old pump unit.
Goulds ,the best I've ever worked with.
that belongs in a museum!
Old systems work, physics doesn’t change over time, just our understanding of it. I still like my jet pump setup at our cabin.
Amazing what you find on old systems, that was state of the art at one time.
I feel like Hand Tool Rescue would love this. The gismocity with this is incredible.
I used to work at a machine/ fabrication shop that specialized in rebuilding old machines. That would be a fun project to rebuild.
Brings back memories of working on an old reciprocating pump run by electric motor. It was in a basement because the house was added onto in the 40s or early 50s. Two 100 gallon galvanized pressure tanks. They had microscopic leaks below the water lines. I moved away before that became a disaster or someone else got to replace it.
I hope you had a good Christmas. A year later, the number was 114K. Keep doing what you are doing!
I lived in Seneca Falls in the late 1960's. Gould pumps and the birth of the Women's suffrage movement was what Seneca Falls was famous for. I really enjoy your videos. They are very informative.
You put the crown on the hustle! Nice work!
that pump is like the drop pump in a windmill
Be nice to see you drill a new well for that site.
Serviced these deepwell pumps for 45 odd years,many different brands,Anderson, Mcewens,Davies etc,if you didnt have a wind mill you usually had a deep well plunger pump ,not much else before submersibles came into play bar ram style pumps
Well you got the first and last video of one of those pumps running. Still cool
Put that pump in a museum
"hook this in that...and then we're gonna take this ...as a safety...and put that on there as well. okiedoke.". While using a knotted sling. LOL
That belongs in a museum. I wish we had a well museum in America that would ask for these systems and other 70+ year old systems
It'd be amazing to see a bunch of ancient pumps setup and maintained to keep on running like they originally did.
You should save that unit and put it in your museum.
I got your back.. im subscribe and I give the thumbs up Brother. Be safe and on your toes. Get better fast.
We have this same setup at our farm in a 50 foot hand dug well. still works as a backup. Same style pump, mabye little older.
Pretty cool find I would love to have that pump that old stuff amazes me. This well is almost like servicing a oil well with that packing box over the wellhead . Sad that the well couldn't be saved but that's the way things go and you learned and gained experience so it's a successful day.
That piece you cut off was a Check Valve . My Great Grandmother had a converted windmill well hers was a gravity feed style not a pressure style it had an overhead water tank that fed the house . Hers had almost the same gear box it may have been a bit older .
They used to call those "Sucker Rod" pumps in my area.
That is like an old fashioned galvanized hand pump with wood handle and leather wiper. We used them to pump out our wood sail boat and row boat.
It is called a working head. Has a cylinder on the bottom and a form of one on the top they were used on low output wells. You can use a monitor pump jack and a brass cylinder modified and mounted upside down for the top end.. some folks used Jensen jacks which did the same job but looked like mini oil field pumps.The Great Plains area will keep wellmen on their toes at least they have kept me learning for the last 35 years
Was a pretty common way to convert from windmill to electric pump using old sucker rod system. This being when rural electric power came to be. These old pumpjacks still show up in farm sales up here in the northern midwest.
My aunt was still using her well with a pump jack up until she passed away 10 years ago. I still have the original windmill the jack replaced.
Pump jack is the proper term for the device Shirley Coleman for converting a wind-driven pump AKA windmill operated pump such as these two Electric and yes on the world notification leading to this being converted to Electric Power.
Once saw an old systemware firm power had been used as in DC low voltage surprisingly pretty much all the receptacles from the same as well as bulb bases so just be aware out there if you have some antique electrical equipment of various types and other devices check the voltage and sometimes things may be DC only as well.
I was call bus and wanted and moved into a farm and what kind of baffled no power they could not find any indication that there was a connection to the grid but clearly at one point there was electricity and of course no meter nor normal service entrance.
Even in ancient Antiquated one at all.
However there was Warren running all over the place.
Was checking things out where there was little white picture just looked in there add the bulb and said aha ha.
Salsa appliances said ditto and so on right down to the old Kirby vacuum in the closet.
Everything there was designed ran off low voltage DC.
And was going around various places of the property shine my flashlight name of the outbuildings and said well there's your service entrance basically a big fuse board literally not even a fuse box just something that looks like more like out of Frankenstein not necessarily typical for the system but every once in a while you can see something like this apparently according to some old guys that still knew about this headband over the years.
It was what was referred to as farm power I think it was 40 some odd bowls cannot remember what the voltage usually is.
Don't think it was 36 but might have been at one point
And the old batteries were still there even some of them still had acid in them!
Glass jar lead acid batteries!
There was a gasoline generator as well apparently that one was equipped for automatic start the thing is there were batteries but it is could be run by just turning on a load in the generator starting and of course topping up the batteries while in use the idea on that system was the batteries could be used without having the generator run constantly sometimes the generator was just ran by itself and other times it was a combination of batteries and in various different setups.
By the way that place also had an acetylene generator for carbine lighting it looked as though they had used both not sure which was first or that originally it was gas but some of the fixtures had both Gas and Electric it's possible some of this was pre-wired for the system before it was installed don't know the full history of the place.
For example the kitchens and acetylene gas stove that would have been run from the acetylene lighting plant did the settling generator was in a separate outbuilding that was essentially a big concrete box some people thought these were actually a storm shelter and in many cases were used for this after the system for the assembling lighting plant in head removed for good.
Another interesting system that was on the property was using the some people call it Airgas but I'm not sure of the proper term for this.
Essentially an underground giant enormous carburetor apparently would have wicks in there to get gasoline to pay for us and there would be some sort of lower possibly a Roots blower in some cases what are would be pumped into there and then the resulting air in fuel vapor what's my back and used for lighting.
There was no connection as far as I know to the house with this but there was some stuff that was capped off maybe the acetylene have been used for one part and the other for another or one system superseded the other but I'm feeling they're both working around the same time period and there was a bit different fixtures and sometimes even electric and the two fixtures for these two different systems in the same building so hard to say what happened
The farm behind ours had alote of the same stuff in a shred behind the slave house big glass bottles with wires coming out the brick summer kitchen was bigger than some small homes.slave house has fire place so big it divided the house in halves.
Out with the good in with the Garbage
I had friends use pump jacks like that powered by gas engine ( ie 5HP Briggs with horizontal shaft) in the Dakotas to water cattle on parcels that are not close to power. Suppose they could use a generator and motor like your setup.
That old pump pretty cool
Exactly the setup at may grandparents house up till the mid 70s when they made everyone go on to city water. He still used it to water the garden. And to drink water way better than the city had to offer.
If I was homeowner, I would have said "Put it back together the way it was".
No you wouldn’t have because that’s the risk you take with wells and you sign off on it before hand
Why? Do you like an oil contaminated water supply? Rewatch the beginning when the pump kicked in. There's the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water that leaks past the pump. That oil comes from the open side of the gearbox. The oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks past the pump piston, then oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't care how robust that old system may be, it's a health hazard. Not to mention all the poison from all that rust. It's so rusted that you can't even repack the seals so it won't leak. The old pump had it's day, and Long life. It's time to move on to something that won't posion it's owners.
They bought the house to rent out! I know from my past as a real estate agent that the well either passes or fails water quality and flow tests! I’m guessing the well failed inspection or the water samples fails due to oil and dirt contamination! It would have been a condition of the mortgage company that the well was replaced either b4 closing on the property or money was placed in escrow to pay for new well or retrofit of existing!
@@kenwillis8487 Exactly. Just because an old item is robust, it does not mean it has not out lived it useful life or overall better in it's current use.
The water was not safe to use as it was it was even stated in the video it would not pass current water standards. Also it was already partially broken and looked ready to break any time. Its just too bad we dont get to see them pulling out the 2 inch casing and drilling a new well
Shame that was rusted to ruin. Definitely a unique pumping system. Looks identical on a smaller scale to the oil well pumps I drive by in Texas
Fixing the seal would have given them a system that'd work another 80 years. My "modern" pump had to be replaced 3 times in a decade.
There was more broken than the seal. The air piston was also broken
@@ian3580 I'm sure they'll be saying "Sure glad we got rid of that piece of junk with one worn out part" as they replace their fifth starter cap.
@@danmerillat What are you doing to well pumps that you're replacing starter caps that often? My neighbors and I are all on about 12 years without pumps without issues....
Awesome! 👍
You guys gave it your best. That was cool😂
Great video very interesting. Best video I have seen ever. Thanks.
I love your videos just starting to be a helper for a well pump installer 👍🏻👍🏻
The pump was made about 35 miles from where I live, Seneca Falls, NY. They're still I business, I used to deliver steel to the factory in the 70's....1970s!
It works like a little oil well with a stand valve and a traveling valve in a working barrel. I’ve never seen one that small.
It may not be as small as the creator is conjecturing. I have seen a number of similar setups that used about a 3" pipe.
@@buggsy5 it looks small. I have a couple wells that use 1 1/2 inch tubing and it’s bigger than that
New year new sub,been watching awhile enjoying your vids.regards from northern California
We have neighbors still using them on 3"casing here in Ontario canada
The side part was a priming collar, just made it easier to keep jack seals wet and primed.
My grandparents home had a similar setup the seals were leather I remember him changing them over 40 years ago
Wow I love ❤ your Southern accent from Norristown PA here 👍🏾👋🏾🤟🏾
The Wagner motor
Model G902 K4180
The model # is *G902*
The rest is a date code
*K=November*
*44=1944*
*80=8th day*
So, Wednesday November 8, 1944
Wow built during the height of WW2. Just 3 days after that motor left the assembly line, the Allied troops bombed Iwo Jima. On the specific day it was made, Joseph Goebbels announced the V-2 rocket campaign.
I get k4180 no real way to tell without it right in front of me if that last digit is a 1 or 4
@@kittyfanatic1980Thats what I said.
Using wind power before the word GREEN POWER was thought of.
My parents'house in the 70's had the same setup and worked great! Theirs was in a vault that was located under ground and had a manhole cover for access.
Took something out that lasted 80 years and still working. It will be lucky if a new pump lasts 8 years.
Good thing modern pumps have no problems lasting 50 years
you can easily get 25+ years out of a quality modern pump
But why take one that that will outlast any new pump even after already used for 80 years? Should just rebuild all that in there, new seals fix that rod and get another 80 years.
@@brando12343 idk about that ^^
@@kevamor The biggest problem with the old pump is it will NOT supply water at a rate suitable for today's demands. It was installed long before people had hot showers, flush toilets, and washing machines. Matter of fact, I doubt the well yield can keep up with a family of four, which will be over 400 gallons a day at today's standard.
I believe the last part you cut off is a back flow preventer. It keep water from draining from the pressure storage tank back into the well.
clean area, apply heat, use 2 pipe wrenches. and hammer. Don't give up.
Had pretty much the same system in my pump house in wisconsin
Enjoyed watching from Novato Calif. north of San Francisco
well I subscribed a while ago, this stuff is fascinating .
When the deep well cylinder gets stuck in the well causing it takes lots of patience by pulling it up & pushing it down to clear & scrap some of the corrosion from the insides of the casing. It can take lots of time, but eventually with perseverance you will get the deep well cylinder out!