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@@ayleslove4710 Currently they don’t. This is Criticals first Tattoo pen machine. I’m sure when a bunch more artist pick them up there will be a bigger market for the disposable grips!
I have come to this video a little late, but absolutely top notch and informative, thank you for all your hard work and great integrity. Thank you from your UK fans
Sorry for the late comment but i just came across your video and well i had just purchased the same machine at a convention from a tattoo supplier and i turned on the machine and noticed a rattle sound coming from the motor unfortunately ive heard of other people send their machine back and get their motor replaced back to back and still makes the same rattling noise…i absolutely love this machine and would love to keep using it but unfortunately cannot use it at the moment due to the noise im afraid of using it and make it worse.
Take a video of the issue and send it to Cheyenne on instagram. Anytime I have a rattle sound coming from inside my tattoo machine it’s because water from the rinse cup goes into the needle cartridge and runs backwards down into the machine and dries up in the motor assembly area. Unfortunately opening the machine voids your warranty so you have to send it to Cheyenne to fix it
@@Phantom_bride70 oh snap, I just uploaded a Cheyenne machine video and I thought this comment was in that 🤦♂️ Message Critical on instagram, they’re very responsive to messages and if they don’t respond tell them that I sent you lol
I got the 4.2 n i love this machine and finally they came out with the disposable grips and when you buy the kit it comes with one for free🤘😜..I see your in Wisconsin..im in milwaukee Wisconsin
I bought this machine last year, and when I got it i remember it was so quiet and had barely any vibration. After about 5 months it sounded like an old truck. It made a chugging sound. After 8 months it completely died mid-tattoo. I sent it in and got a replacement for free. The replacement has been fine, but its starting to do the same: slowly getting louder over time. Ive been looking, scouring the internet and criticals website for ANY type of maintenance instructions or tips. I cant find anything, and im so worried of ruining this expensive machine. If you know of any tips, or have gotten any info from critical please make a video on it!
I’ve had similar issues on other machines and in almost every case it’s from rinse cup water getting down inside the machine. Membrane needles don’t alow water to back flow into your machine but if you’re used band drive needle cartridges you have to be extra extra careful. I swore I was careful but one time I took apart my sealed tattoo machine and found a shit load of crap trapped in my machine. Use membrane cartridges even though they’re expensive 💀
Jumpstart is useful for low voltages. If you do stippling or low voltage packing; some needles may not work until higher voltages first or sometimes membrane is too tight. With jump start you got no issue at all.
Good vid brother i like the end explanations of your throw preferences i feel as though were in the same wavelength of preferences Im purchasing this machine coming from a critical power supply and axys Valhalla machine which ive run for in the neighborhood of 7 yrs
@@royltattooatl for me fk irons battery are the worst...i think it depends a lot for external stuff..and we use them every day for hours! i think they cannot stay "strong for too long" i got 3 critical and two are defiecient after 4 yers of use i think that's fair
I'm using coils at the moment have been since I started,I'm looking at buying this to replace them it's a big investment. My biggest thing is I'm used to using the bog of coils so I'm going to have to be careful with this thing (no give)..
This machine is very powerful no bog. There’s a new machine I’m testing right now that comes out next week called the Prime Pen and you might like that better. It’s compatible with the battery on the torque also. My review video on that machine comes out next week
Hey Adam. First year tattooer here. Thanks for posting such a sincere review. I’m lookin to upgrade my current setup because I’m having issues with adjusting the needle depth, almost taking apart the machine while making adjustments. I’m wondering how easy is it to wrap this machine and adjust needle depth while fully wrapped? Thanks!
Hey man welcome to the industry! I wrap the same way I’ve been wrapping all my pen style machines! I’m sure there’s a bunch of videos on UA-cam you can watch. I basically wrap the grip and the other half of the machine separately so you can still spin the grip freely. Hopefully that helps 😅
Hey Adam - thank you for posting this video, lots of good info, defo following your channel! I have two questions for ya . . . First, I do a lot of stippling and I'm wondering what the advantage would be to use the 4.2 vs the 5. Second, I have a question about wiping this machine down, since Madacide wipes wreck the surfaces of Critical power supplies - are these made of the same stuff, and if so, what do you use to wipe them down? Hella appreciate your insights, keep up the good work 🙏
5mm is just a little to powerful to line with 3rl but is better for stippling. Slapping the RCA port on this and hooking it up to a power supply would make it even better for stippling but isn’t needed. The machine is durable you can go crazy with Madacide wipes on it and not wreck anything. It’s possible that the power supply’s are not sealed properly so liquids might enter the inside 🤷♂️
You put a dot on machine lube in the hole every 200ish hours of use. You got to make sure you use the right lube tho so I’d check what bishop uses and use that
I actually put a dot of lube on the back of a new needle plunger and put it in and let it run, just be careful to not over lube. You can’t get the lube out if you had to
Dude UPS did a u turn in my driveway and left without dropping it off. I contacted the headquarters on Facebook because that’s literally almost the only way to get a answer from them and they made the driver work over time and they had to turn around to drop mine off 🤦♂️
@@inkedallegiance1227 That would be awesome. If you make the page invite me to it and share my stuff on it lol It’s always fun to talk equipment and supplies people would enjoy that!
Hi Adam ! Thank you for your videos ! Do you know if it’s the same motor between the torque and the power wand packer ? I don’t know which one to chose, and I don’t really care about the big screen on the battery.. If you had to compare the two machines (not the batteries but just the machine), which one worth it ? And last question ahah the torque seems to be really powerful, it’s more like the power wand shader or the packer ? Thanks again and have a good day !
When I talked to Critical they told me that it’s a different motor and drive bar system with a higher max torque than the Bishop machines. It’s more comparable to the Bishop Packer. I personally can’t stand the Bishop grip or the company so I prefer the Critical Torque over any of the Wands. But the Bishop Packer is a better all around machine to do all styles…. The Torque is a little too powerful for black & gray work in my opinion.
I have the critical and the bishop packer, and I would say that the critical 3.5 hits as hard as the packer. It can do both soft and hard. What’s your ig? I’ll do also florals
I dont know if im gonna like it. I put a cartridge in it and ran it and cant back the grip off as much as I usually like to where the needle exposure from the tip is less, backing it off to much makes the machine louder due to the cartridge stem and the cams bar stem.
Hmm 🤔 I didn’t notice any issues like that. What you’re saying is you don’t stick your needle out far so it’s making a loud sound? Maybe it’s the brand of cartridges you use I haven’t noticed a problem like that yet 🤷♂️
@@user-wc9mm3sq2m I actually tested it today also because you had me curious and I couldn’t replicate the problem! I’m happy you got it figured out I use these needles store.truetubes.com
Great video, really usefull! Im thinking between this one and the bishop wand liner. I’m using a 3.5 regular pen that can make all the works but is really slow for lining specially, I normally work between 3rl and 11rs, what do you recommend me? I want something more powerful
I’d get the 4.0 stroke unless you plan on doing some black & gray wash shading with it. The 3.5 is pretty good still though for lines. The Torque is a very well built, quality machine you definitely won’t regret it.
Yes! The wand grip only works with a few brands, bishop needles, kwadran, and a few others. They force you to buy their disposable grips that accept more cartridge brands. That’s why bishop pisses me off and if you ask them they will pretend like they’re not doing it
@@adamdarklord yes . Idk where you are from but out here in Cali we have a vendor that comes every week . Bought wand packer and told them the issue.they told me oh it happens a lot . I told them I want to exchange it or soemthing I wouldn’t have bought if I knew that .. I wonder if the bigger grips they sale have any difference as far as that situation. Thanks for your time
@@bigtm6216 the bigger grips haven’t been in stock in over 2 years since they were first released. There’s whole internet threads where people are offering $300+ for the bigger aluminum grip. When I talked to bishop they said it’s because Aluminum prices are to high lol Aluminum is not that expensive rn they just want everyone to be forced into getting the disposables.
I used the Torque 3.5 stroke around 8.5 volts sometimes lower. It’s hard to remember I test new machine’s every week but I do remember the Torque lining pretty fast. Probably slow it down more for smaller needle groupings
I prefer the Critical Torque because it has the screen. The SOL Nova 2, 3.5stroke comes out in June. It doesn’t have the battery built in so you would have to buy a battery separate but it might be worth waiting to see the reviews on that 🤷♂️
So I have all three bishops shaded, packer and liner. My packer needs to sent into for service and told 4-6 weeks. Can’t be down that time. So looking into the critical torque. Would you say the critical torque 4.2 would be more comparable to the bishop packer? All videos I watch don’t have that comparison but seems like more are running the 3.5 torque over the 4.2. Please help
Ok thanks bro!!! Really apreaciate it… from all the videos I watched seems like most people are leaning towards the 3.5 torque. Since I have the bishop trinity I was puzzled because it’s hard to believe the 3.5 would be like the 4.2 bishop packer but who knows. Every brand is different. I don’t think I could use the bishop shader as an all around machine !! But I do think I could use the shader for all around machine. So that’s what got me wondering. Maybe critical torques are some what in between the bishops specs Somewhere in between bishops
@@richardalvarez3655 The critical machines have very high torque to them. I’ve actually changed my mind since making the video the 3.5 is just a little to strong for b&g for me and a little to strong for fine lines. I know a lot of amazing artists that use the Bishop Packer machine for everything. The two best machines on the market right now to me, hands down is the new Neuma 5 flex and the Acus M1…. Both machines can do it all very very good
My wife is almost done with her apprenticeship and I wanted to buy her a tattoo machine as a present for a year and half of hard work getting to this point in her career. Would you recommend this as a good present for finishing up her apprenticeship?
I’m personally in my career trying to get back to using 1 tattoo machine for everything. I’m sick of setting up multiple machines and overthinking the process. So currently I’m sticking with the critical 3.5 machine over anything else.
@@Gravehandstattoo I seen some of my healed black and gray come back with the torque and I felt it looked a little choppy. The torque is an amazing machine and probably the most well built. I’m just used to less torque. I’ve been using the Cheyenne SOL Nova 2 the most right now and currently waiting for the Acus M1 to show up because I already know thats going to be my main machine
I’ve heard someone else in my comments say the Flux “learns how you tattoo” but in all my research and talking to the company’s I’ve never heard them bring that up ever or seen that advertised. So I don’t know where people are hearing that from. Do you mean electronic give? If so this machine doesn’t have it unfortunately 🤔
Why does this machine have to be so thick in its diameter? It's at least, what? 1.5" Of all the devices made for drawing, I've never seen one so thick. I assume this is what Tattoo artists want. If so, why? Just asking...
Probably because the sound and vibration insulation in the front on it 🤷♂️ I prefer a wide grip on my machine otherwise my hands cramp up instantly. It also ships with a smaller grip
Bro this seemed genuine and honest and the way you express yourself is dope seems like your a transparent person! New subscriber bro 😂💪🏽🔥🔥🔥 Edit : Change my mind bro I even unsubscribed !!! I was only into like 12 minute when I wrote that ^^ but after seeing minute 18:50 that’s Fake asf! Simply cuz u payed for it and your saying you’d want to see the motor as well but just cuz they say you can’t you won’t that’s bullshit bro.
Lol I genuinely don’t want to void my warranty incase my machine brakes. I don’t want to do something I currently don’t feel comfortable with that’s literally me being “genuine & honest” it’s all good man I’m going to keep grinding and one day I’ll see you back in my comments as a subscriber just give it time 🔥
unless you have a pac-man game hidden somewhere THIS MACHINE I FIND that for the price, it brings nothing new compared to a bishop or the machines from Neuma!!!
The machine seems interesting but it has a few "critical" issues in my opinion. Has the most proficient battery of all machines at the moment, it's strong and it has a few cool but not essential features. However you can't change stroke cams, it is not totally cleanable, if the batery dies on you, you're simply f*cked, it's ensanely expensive for what it brings. These machines are trying to be "smart fones" forgetting the most important features a machine must have. You can find machines in the market with the most important features, Acus M1, Blad Vad, etc...Give them a try you'll be surprised.
I’m not trying to defend Critical in any way because I agree to a point. Personally like the simplicity of Sealed batteries. If it was possible to charge them without taking the battery out of the battery shell I wouldn’t mind. I just wouldn’t take them out till they started discharging. I think the whole vape battery charger dock idea is dumb at a certain price point but it wouldn’t hurt be able to take then out to replace after a few years. As for the cams that you can unscrew and swap out. I’ve never been a fan of that. If you have one stroke length you can use for everything what would the point be. It seems like something more for a apprentice that’s still stuck between what they want and just wants to feel the difference. I’d never sit there during a tattoo and be like hold up I got to take my machine apart and switch stroke lengths lol I like the idea of it but in reality it’s just another thing I’d never use. I like adjustable stroke machine’s just not the adjustable cams you got to take off yourself and swap out. As for cleaning it I forgot to say that there is a screw next to the drive bar that looks like if you undo it you could gat at it. I’m sure it’s meant specifically for cleaning. The problem is they don’t advertise it as that and they possibly messed up by telling me not to remove it. The reason why I didn’t test it is because I didn’t what to do something and then someone see my video and void there warranty because of me. I’ll make a separate video on that in a few weeks if it’s made to come off for cleaning because I feel that’s very important. I’m happy there’s other machines out there that hit all them marks it’s important so we can see what works and what doesn’t!
@@adamdarklord I understand you point of view but... A machine with the ability to change cams is important because it is not necessary to have more machines for absurd prices. For example, in pieces with only lines, I can use 4.5 or 5mm stroke, if it's realism, I can change it to 3.7 or 3mm and if you need both I can use a 3.7 or a 4.1mm stroke changing the motor torque (in Acus case) depending my needs, the perfect solution! Having this possibility in just one machine is fantastic. When I say the machine must be fully clenable and autoclabable, I'm referring to examples like Acus (to me, best machine out there), where you have complete access to all parts that come into contact with contaminated ink. Finally, the internal batteries cost 20 or 30 dollars and you can have as many as you want, the same cannot be said about critical or F.K.Irons batteries. But it's like you say, everyone has their opinion and tastes.
@@bullsheeptattoo What's "absurd" to you? $5k-10k of owning machines is about right if you're a professional artist making close to 6 figures a year or more. As for batteries, how are you fucked if you have two batteries? This machine is definitely not for the apprentice or starting out in tattooing. Acus requires you to take apart to access the cam which I think is an issue itself and putting in the VAPE battery is a pain. Not a fan of that. Again it's about preferences...
@@V8laca Absurd is the calculation you have just made. A machine must be evaluated for its quality and characteristics. A less than versatile machine that fails in things like cleanliness and versatility shouldn't cost more than machines that do. Saying that machines must be expensive just because my paycheck justifies it is like saying that a ball must cost tens of thousands because players make millions. Can you see the ridiculousness of the situation? In any machine to change batteries, you have to change gloves, unwrap the machine, clean it etc, so it doesn't make any difference if it's vaper batteries or otherwise. The difference is in the price and that's important to most people. Having the possibility of having several configurations on a single machine is incredible, you can have a machine dedicated to old school, realism, all-round, etc... To say that this is not relevant because you have to disassemble the machine, makes me believe I'm talking to a newbie!
I spent 2 full days working on this video, almost 8 hours both days and multiple times my video editor crashed so please show that like button some love!
Dope video thank you. How many needles can that 3.5 push?
@@elmoy5759 I don’t use anything over 27 and that worked just fine. I’m sure anything you put in it would work it’s a very strong machine
@@adamdarklordI just bought mine in the 4.2mm stroke
The video is still processing the high definition version of this! High Definition should be up in about 30 mins!
Do these machines have disposable grips available?
@@ayleslove4710 Currently they don’t. This is Criticals first Tattoo pen machine. I’m sure when a bunch more artist pick them up there will be a bigger market for the disposable grips!
@@adamdarklord I think you are right, more companies will make disposable down the road. I may invest in a Autoclave.
Great review. Using the 4.2 and digging it. Still getting used to it but overall pretty happy with the purchase.
I have come to this video a little late, but absolutely top notch and informative, thank you for all your hard work and great integrity. Thank you from your UK fans
I appreciate you checking it out 🔥
Always here for the support and Thanks Brother..Sick Review 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks man 🙏 it means a lot!
Sorry for the late comment but i just came across your video and well i had just purchased the same machine at a convention from a tattoo supplier and i turned on the machine and noticed a rattle sound coming from the motor unfortunately ive heard of other people send their machine back and get their motor replaced back to back and still makes the same rattling noise…i absolutely love this machine and would love to keep using it but unfortunately cannot use it at the moment due to the noise im afraid of using it and make it worse.
Take a video of the issue and send it to Cheyenne on instagram.
Anytime I have a rattle sound coming from inside my tattoo machine it’s because water from the rinse cup goes into the needle cartridge and runs backwards down into the machine and dries up in the motor assembly area. Unfortunately opening the machine voids your warranty so you have to send it to Cheyenne to fix it
@@adamdarklord so I can message Cheyenne for my critical torque rattle sound issue?
And thank you for the reply!
@@Phantom_bride70 oh snap, I just uploaded a Cheyenne machine video and I thought this comment was in that 🤦♂️
Message Critical on instagram, they’re very responsive to messages and if they don’t respond tell them that I sent you lol
@@adamdarklord i was about to say haha and will do Adam thank you for the help!
I got the 4.2 n i love this machine and finally they came out with the disposable grips and when you buy the kit it comes with one for free🤘😜..I see your in Wisconsin..im in milwaukee Wisconsin
I’ll be at the Villain Arts Convention by you this year!
I bought this machine last year, and when I got it i remember it was so quiet and had barely any vibration. After about 5 months it sounded like an old truck. It made a chugging sound. After 8 months it completely died mid-tattoo. I sent it in and got a replacement for free. The replacement has been fine, but its starting to do the same: slowly getting louder over time.
Ive been looking, scouring the internet and criticals website for ANY type of maintenance instructions or tips. I cant find anything, and im so worried of ruining this expensive machine.
If you know of any tips, or have gotten any info from critical please make a video on it!
I’ve had similar issues on other machines and in almost every case it’s from rinse cup water getting down inside the machine.
Membrane needles don’t alow water to back flow into your machine but if you’re used band drive needle cartridges you have to be extra extra careful.
I swore I was careful but one time I took apart my sealed tattoo machine and found a shit load of crap trapped in my machine.
Use membrane cartridges even though they’re expensive 💀
Man, I would love a comparison with this bad boy and the Flux Max ;) ;)
Good review mate. Always love your honest feedback.
Do a review on the new Critical Direct Drive machine please! Great review btw, ive watched a ton of your review videos and love them. Keep it up
Message Critical on instagram and tell them to send me a review unit! 🙌
Jumpstart is useful for low voltages. If you do stippling or low voltage packing; some needles may not work until higher voltages first or sometimes membrane is too tight. With jump start you got no issue at all.
Thanks for the info 🔥
Good vid brother i like the end explanations of your throw preferences i feel as though were in the same wavelength of preferences Im purchasing this machine coming from a critical power supply and axys Valhalla machine which ive run for in the neighborhood of 7 yrs
You’re going to enjoy this machine!
Great video. I’ve had two critical batteries die on me in the past year and a half. I’m over it
I feel that I have at least one or two batteries go bad every year, no matter the brand. They make these things to brake, I swear 🤦♂️
@@adamdarklord yea you’re probably right about that! I’m currently using the batteries from FK Irons. So far so good
@@royltattooatl for me fk irons battery are the worst...i think it depends a lot for external stuff..and we use them every day for hours! i think they cannot stay "strong for too long" i got 3 critical and two are defiecient after 4 yers of use i think that's fair
@@RemySoAndCie I think I have had bad luck with my critical batteries. I know they are good products but they just don’t seem to work well for me.
Good review 👍 happy critical took care of you they did a good job replacing a connect footswitch for me within the warranty period
That’s good I’m happy you had a good experience I was hoping I didn’t get special reviewer treatment from them!
I'm using coils at the moment have been since I started,I'm looking at buying this to replace them it's a big investment. My biggest thing is I'm used to using the bog of coils so I'm going to have to be careful with this thing (no give)..
This machine is very powerful no bog.
There’s a new machine I’m testing right now that comes out next week called the Prime Pen and you might like that better.
It’s compatible with the battery on the torque also.
My review video on that machine comes out next week
Those problems with the batteries are not rare, I've had similar issues with the critical batteries within the first year of owning them.
Awesome review thanks!
Hey Adam. First year tattooer here. Thanks for posting such a sincere review. I’m lookin to upgrade my current setup because I’m having issues with adjusting the needle depth, almost taking apart the machine while making adjustments. I’m wondering how easy is it to wrap this machine and adjust needle depth while fully wrapped? Thanks!
Hey man welcome to the industry!
I wrap the same way I’ve been wrapping all my pen style machines!
I’m sure there’s a bunch of videos on UA-cam you can watch. I basically wrap the grip and the other half of the machine separately so you can still spin the grip freely. Hopefully that helps 😅
Yeah! Helps a lot. Thanks man!
We want darklord on top, sick review
That’s right! Thanks for the support 🙌
Hey Adam - thank you for posting this video, lots of good info, defo following your channel! I have two questions for ya . . . First, I do a lot of stippling and I'm wondering what the advantage would be to use the 4.2 vs the 5. Second, I have a question about wiping this machine down, since Madacide wipes wreck the surfaces of Critical power supplies - are these made of the same stuff, and if so, what do you use to wipe them down? Hella appreciate your insights, keep up the good work 🙏
5mm is just a little to powerful to line with 3rl but is better for stippling.
Slapping the RCA port on this and hooking it up to a power supply would make it even better for stippling but isn’t needed.
The machine is durable you can go crazy with Madacide wipes on it and not wreck anything. It’s possible that the power supply’s are not sealed properly so liquids might enter the inside 🤷♂️
Thanks for this comprehensive clip.. is there a best way to bag it section or clip?
I wrap it the same as I do all pen machines. I use cling wrap and grip tape. My newest video with the Cheyenne machine I show how I wrap pen machines!
I just bought one the 4.2 and was wondering how to lube it when needed????
You put a dot on machine lube in the hole every 200ish hours of use. You got to make sure you use the right lube tho so I’d check what bishop uses and use that
I actually put a dot of lube on the back of a new needle plunger and put it in and let it run, just be careful to not over lube. You can’t get the lube out if you had to
Killed it bro I’m still waiting for mine ups dropped the ball I ordered the 4.2 but wish we could change cams !
Dude UPS did a u turn in my driveway and left without dropping it off. I contacted the headquarters on Facebook because that’s literally almost the only way to get a answer from them and they made the driver work over time and they had to turn around to drop mine off 🤦♂️
@@adamdarklord lord that’s nuts bro thanks for all the work you do I thought about making a review page on machines inks equip ect ! Keep it up
@@inkedallegiance1227 That would be awesome. If you make the page invite me to it and share my stuff on it lol
It’s always fun to talk equipment and supplies people would enjoy that!
Hi Adam ! Thank you for your videos ! Do you know if it’s the same motor between the torque and the power wand packer ? I don’t know which one to chose, and I don’t really care about the big screen on the battery.. If you had to compare the two machines (not the batteries but just the machine), which one worth it ? And last question ahah the torque seems to be really powerful, it’s more like the power wand shader or the packer ? Thanks again and have a good day !
When I talked to Critical they told me that it’s a different motor and drive bar system with a higher max torque than the Bishop machines.
It’s more comparable to the Bishop Packer.
I personally can’t stand the Bishop grip or the company so I prefer the Critical Torque over any of the Wands.
But the Bishop Packer is a better all around machine to do all styles….
The Torque is a little too powerful for black & gray work in my opinion.
@@adamdarklordok thank you so much for your time ! So maybe the Bishop packer should be a better choice for my fineline floral tattoos !
I have the critical and the bishop packer, and I would say that the critical 3.5 hits as hard as the packer. It can do both soft and hard. What’s your ig? I’ll do also florals
@@da-monti😊
I dont know if im gonna like it. I put a cartridge in it and ran it and cant back the grip off as much as I usually like to where the needle exposure from the tip is less, backing it off to much makes the machine louder due to the cartridge stem and the cams bar stem.
Hmm 🤔 I didn’t notice any issues like that. What you’re saying is you don’t stick your needle out far so it’s making a loud sound? Maybe it’s the brand of cartridges you use I haven’t noticed a problem like that yet 🤷♂️
ok I will give that a try thanks for sharing that with me dude @@adamdarklord
@@adamdarklord checked and tried a different cartridge and it fix this issue, wasnt the machine it was the cartridge.
@@user-wc9mm3sq2m I actually tested it today also because you had me curious and I couldn’t replicate the problem! I’m happy you got it figured out I use these needles
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Great video, really usefull! Im thinking between this one and the bishop wand liner. I’m using a 3.5 regular pen that can make all the works but is really slow for lining specially, I normally work between 3rl and 11rs, what do you recommend me? I want something more powerful
I’d get the 4.0 stroke unless you plan on doing some black & gray wash shading with it. The 3.5 is pretty good still though for lines. The Torque is a very well built, quality machine you definitely won’t regret it.
Doc you ever have any issues with the wand grip ? As far as the cartridges getting stuck?
Yes! The wand grip only works with a few brands, bishop needles, kwadran, and a few others. They force you to buy their disposable grips that accept more cartridge brands. That’s why bishop pisses me off and if you ask them they will pretend like they’re not doing it
@@adamdarklord yes . Idk where you are from but out here in Cali we have a vendor that comes every week . Bought wand packer and told them the issue.they told me oh it happens a lot . I told them I want to exchange it or soemthing I wouldn’t have bought if I knew that .. I wonder if the bigger grips they sale have any difference as far as that situation. Thanks for your time
@@bigtm6216 the bigger grips haven’t been in stock in over 2 years since they were first released. There’s whole internet threads where people are offering $300+ for the bigger aluminum grip. When I talked to bishop they said it’s because Aluminum prices are to high lol
Aluminum is not that expensive rn they just want everyone to be forced into getting the disposables.
I just bought the 4.2 but lining feels kind of weird, I’m wondering which voltage u use for lining, I was used to 8-8.5 with a Chinese machine
I used the Torque 3.5 stroke around 8.5 volts sometimes lower.
It’s hard to remember I test new machine’s every week but
I do remember the Torque lining pretty fast. Probably slow it down more for smaller needle groupings
Cheyenne SOLnova unlimited 3.5 or Critical Torque 3.5, which one is better for you?
I prefer the Critical Torque because it has the screen. The SOL Nova 2, 3.5stroke comes out in June. It doesn’t have the battery built in so you would have to buy a battery separate but it might be worth waiting to see the reviews on that 🤷♂️
For the critical torque and bishop power wand.. are the batteries interchangeable?
Yup, I have a whole video on my channel about it
So I have all three bishops shaded, packer and liner. My packer needs to sent into for service and told 4-6 weeks. Can’t be down that time. So looking into the critical torque. Would you say the critical torque 4.2 would be more comparable to the bishop packer? All videos I watch don’t have that comparison but seems like more are running the 3.5 torque over the 4.2. Please help
4.2 would feel more like the Packer!
Especially if you like to stick your needle out further
Ok thanks bro!!! Really apreaciate it… from all the videos I watched seems like most people are leaning towards the 3.5 torque. Since I have the bishop trinity I was puzzled because it’s hard to believe the 3.5 would be like the 4.2 bishop packer but who knows. Every brand is different. I don’t think I could use the bishop shader as an all around machine !! But I do think I could use the shader for all around machine. So that’s what got me wondering. Maybe critical torques are some what in between the bishops specs
Somewhere in between bishops
@@richardalvarez3655 The critical machines have very high torque to them.
I’ve actually changed my mind since making the video the 3.5 is just a little to strong for b&g for me and a little to strong for fine lines.
I know a lot of amazing artists that use the Bishop Packer machine for everything.
The two best machines on the market right now to me, hands down is the new Neuma 5 flex and the Acus M1…. Both machines can do it all very very good
@@adamdarklordso would you say the 3.5 torque =to bishop packer and 4.2 critical =bishop liner liner
@@richardalvarez3655he said : Bishop Wand 4.2 = Torque 4.2.
not 3.5 = 4.2
My wife is almost done with her apprenticeship and I wanted to buy her a tattoo machine as a present for a year and half of hard work getting to this point in her career. Would you recommend this as a good present for finishing up her apprenticeship?
Yes, it’s one of the best tattoo machines on the market. I’m sure your wife would love it!
Ok so 4.2 is just for stippling or can I pibe good with it
The 4.2 is good for line work, color and stipple
Would you prefer this over a Bishop wand (power or classic) if you'd have to make a choice?
I think he will say critical torque as it's more of a middle ground since it's almost like a wand packer and shader combined
I’m personally in my career trying to get back to using 1 tattoo machine for everything. I’m sick of setting up multiple machines and overthinking the process. So currently I’m sticking with the critical 3.5 machine over anything else.
@@adamdarklord give a try to Acus m1 then. The most versatile machine on the market by far.
What about flux ? Can it stipple shade ?
Any 4.0 stroke or higher, Tattoo machine can stipple good
This one or the 3.7 cam on the acus ?
Im addicted to the Acus man
What would be 8 volts but in hertz with the acus?
Addicted why
8volts on the Acus would be 85hz
I run it at about 94hz for everything.
The machine and the team behind it are just the best. It feels amazing
@adamdarklord what about the M mode would the M2 be like a direct drive with no give or ?
Has your machine still been running well I got mine a week ago and the motor died after one 5 hour session
I put maybe between 100-200 hours on mine and then went back to my 4.0 flux lol I’d contact them and hopefully they can fix it for you
Why’d you go back to the flux?
@@Gravehandstattoo I seen some of my healed black and gray come back with the torque and I felt it looked a little choppy.
The torque is an amazing machine and probably the most well built.
I’m just used to less torque. I’ve been using the Cheyenne SOL Nova 2 the most right now and currently waiting for the Acus M1 to show up because I already know thats going to be my main machine
Guys someone knows can this machine learn your tattooing ? Like flux max or Ai tenitas
I’ve heard someone else in my comments say the Flux “learns how you tattoo”
but in all my research and talking to the company’s I’ve never heard them bring that up ever or seen that advertised.
So I don’t know where people are hearing that from.
Do you mean electronic give? If so this machine doesn’t have it unfortunately 🤔
Dropped that like button for the shout out in the video 👊 haha
Better click the like button every time! I see ya 👀
Why does this machine have to be so thick in its diameter? It's at least, what? 1.5" Of all the devices made for drawing, I've never seen one so thick. I assume this is what Tattoo artists want. If so, why? Just asking...
Probably because the sound and vibration insulation in the front on it 🤷♂️
I prefer a wide grip on my machine otherwise my hands cramp up instantly. It also ships with a smaller grip
Buttons or Buddons 🤔
Bro this seemed genuine and honest and the way you express yourself is dope seems like your a transparent person! New subscriber bro 😂💪🏽🔥🔥🔥
Edit : Change my mind bro I even unsubscribed !!! I was only into like 12 minute when I wrote that ^^ but after seeing minute 18:50 that’s Fake asf! Simply cuz u payed for it and your saying you’d want to see the motor as well but just cuz they say you can’t you won’t that’s bullshit bro.
Lol I genuinely don’t want to void my warranty incase my machine brakes.
I don’t want to do something I currently don’t feel comfortable with that’s literally me being “genuine & honest” it’s all good man I’m going to keep grinding and one day I’ll see you back in my comments as a subscriber just give it time 🔥
unless you have a pac-man game hidden somewhere THIS MACHINE I FIND that for the price, it brings nothing new compared to a bishop or the machines from Neuma!!!
Thanks for your thoughts 🔥
The machine seems interesting but it has a few "critical" issues in my opinion. Has the most proficient battery of all machines at the moment, it's strong and it has a few cool but not essential features. However you can't change stroke cams, it is not totally cleanable, if the batery dies on you, you're simply f*cked, it's ensanely expensive for what it brings. These machines are trying to be "smart fones" forgetting the most important features a machine must have. You can find machines in the market with the most important features, Acus M1, Blad Vad, etc...Give them a try you'll be surprised.
I’m not trying to defend Critical in any way because I agree to a point.
Personally like the simplicity of Sealed batteries.
If it was possible to charge them without taking the battery out of the battery shell I wouldn’t mind.
I just wouldn’t take them out till they started discharging.
I think the whole vape battery charger dock idea is dumb at a certain price point but it wouldn’t hurt be able to take then out to replace after a few years.
As for the cams that you can unscrew and swap out.
I’ve never been a fan of that.
If you have one stroke length you can use for everything what would the point be.
It seems like something more for a apprentice that’s still stuck between what they want and just wants to feel the difference.
I’d never sit there during a tattoo and be like hold up I got to take my machine apart and switch stroke lengths lol
I like the idea of it but in reality it’s just another thing I’d never use.
I like adjustable stroke machine’s just not the adjustable cams you got to take off yourself and swap out.
As for cleaning it I forgot to say that there is a screw next to the drive bar that looks like if you undo it you could gat at it.
I’m sure it’s meant specifically for cleaning.
The problem is they don’t advertise it as that and they possibly messed up by telling me not to remove it.
The reason why I didn’t test it is because I didn’t what to do something and then someone see my video and void there warranty because of me.
I’ll make a separate video on that in a few weeks if it’s made to come off for cleaning because I feel that’s very important.
I’m happy there’s other machines out there that hit all them marks it’s important so we can see what works and what doesn’t!
@@adamdarklord I understand you point of view but... A machine with the ability to change cams is important because it is not necessary to have more machines for absurd prices. For example, in pieces with only lines, I can use 4.5 or 5mm stroke, if it's realism, I can change it to 3.7 or 3mm and if you need both I can use a 3.7 or a 4.1mm stroke changing the motor torque (in Acus case) depending my needs, the perfect solution! Having this possibility in just one machine is fantastic. When I say the machine must be fully clenable and autoclabable, I'm referring to examples like Acus (to me, best machine out there), where you have complete access to all parts that come into contact with contaminated ink. Finally, the internal batteries cost 20 or 30 dollars and you can have as many as you want, the same cannot be said about critical or F.K.Irons batteries. But it's like you say, everyone has their opinion and tastes.
Is there anything with the Acus you would like to see added or changed?
@@bullsheeptattoo What's "absurd" to you? $5k-10k of owning machines is about right if you're a professional artist making close to 6 figures a year or more. As for batteries, how are you fucked if you have two batteries? This machine is definitely not for the apprentice or starting out in tattooing. Acus requires you to take apart to access the cam which I think is an issue itself and putting in the VAPE battery is a pain. Not a fan of that. Again it's about preferences...
@@V8laca Absurd is the calculation you have just made. A machine must be evaluated for its quality and characteristics. A less than versatile machine that fails in things like cleanliness and versatility shouldn't cost more than machines that do. Saying that machines must be expensive just because my paycheck justifies it is like saying that a ball must cost tens of thousands because players make millions. Can you see the ridiculousness of the situation? In any machine to change batteries, you have to change gloves, unwrap the machine, clean it etc, so it doesn't make any difference if it's vaper batteries or otherwise. The difference is in the price and that's important to most people. Having the possibility of having several configurations on a single machine is incredible, you can have a machine dedicated to old school, realism, all-round, etc... To say that this is not relevant because you have to disassemble the machine, makes me believe I'm talking to a newbie!
One machine that does “everything” will never perform as well as a machine built for a specific use. Overpriced, unsterile junk