Kudos to Tom for being such a trooper and a true professional! That's a helluva day of driving. Big congratulations to the Lucid team for putting together an amazingly efficient product that is on another level when it comes to going the distance. 500 miles is unreal.
Such devotion to duty. Can you imagine sitting in a very special 1,000hp car built for speed driving on long straight desert roads for 7 hours and never once stabbing the accelerator? Such will power! 3:17
That's insanely impressive, I would have ZERO range anxiety in that and I remember being impressed with 300 miles of range. Lucid is just getting started, I can't wait to see what they do next.
Impressive!! The first car in the 500 in the 70mph hwy range test, and also only a mere 3.8% behind its 5 cycle EPA range estimate. New long range King, I suppose?
@@gburesh how is that possible? ev vehicles consumes more on highway driving... in city driving ev vehicles is even more efficient... what type of climate are you living?
More than a confirmation of (impressive) ultimate range, this defeats once and for all the "range anxiety" opinion. Any driver trying to Outrange this (and others) is stupid, dangerous, or both. That's even on an extended, day long journey.
@@rogerstarkey5390 correct my M340i gets 450 miles in a 15 gal tank. Thats good for 2 weeks worth of 50 mile 5 day a week commute. The range anxiety is now gone. I want the LUCID SUV in the future.
Definitely impressive, although 8 hours at 70 miles per hour is not really going that fast. But it's definitely impressive relative to anything else that's available. The 4.3 miles per kilowatt hour efficiency was very good. I'd like to see the same test done out west rolling it 85 mph just to see what the difference is. Where I live if you're running 70 miles an hour you're going to get run over lol..
Another perspective. What proportion of drivers wants to even *try* running 8 hours without a break for food, "relief" or even a walk around the car? (Not to mention social media) I would guess at below 1%.
@@rogerstarkey5390 The advantage of having that much range, is that you could stop and take that break you're talking about but not need to be forced to also make it a charging stop. There's not always chargers at the same place that there's food and refreshments, and vice versa. Always better to have more range if possible. I also suspect that if you could run just to 50% charge and then plug in you probably going to get a much faster charge rate in the lower part of the battery.
Tesla Model 3P owner here and I’ve been looking at Lucid for a long time. I just ordered a Lucid air grand touring (19” wheels) 516 mile range. This video, which looks easy and people take for granted is the #1 reason I ordered this car. I trust Tom and this confirmation of the range is what I needed. Thank you sir! Cheers!
It would be if it were real world. People will be using the radio, heat or a/c, windows down, charging their phones, not pre warming the battery, etc… you’re not getting this range in real world.
Terrific highway performance, what car will duplicate this range? Peter Rawlinson certainly has some serious secrets built into this car. Absolute Cannonball winner!
They already indicated what the "secrets" are. Compact, efficient drive units, efficient power management, a slightly larger pack and maybe a slightly reduced front cross section compared to others.
Yes, there is a secret. Apart of bigger battery, the main reason are narrow tires. Both Tesla S and Porsche Taycan use much wider, staggered setups, especially Taycan. LDE-235/235 to MS-245/255 and PT-245/305. Also, Lucid uses all-season tires, which have less grip and less friction also. It changes a lot! If you use similar narrow tires on TS or Taycan, you will get quite similar efficiency (MS at least). Bear in mind also, that MS is a bigger car slightly. It is a question if using narrow, low grip tires on 1000+ PS car is a responsible decision. Both Tesla and Porsche will not concur. So, Lucid is obviously well engineered car, but at the end the marketing derived configuration decisions are questionable - and typical for Lucid as a company.
one thing is for sure, Lucid has cemented its place in the industry. Crazy to believe that this is a startup. if Lucid can deliver in production they will quickly surpass all luxury automakers in the world. amazing stuff!
They will only cement their place in the industry if they can scale, produce quality vehicles, and manage customer service. Right now Tesla is producing OKish cars but the quality is not great and their customer service even worse. Nevertheless, this is an impressive result and I’m hopeful for the EV future.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis SO far none of the EV's are reliable. Look at the consumer satisfaction of Tesla, and the Volt. Everyone loves owning an EV but pissed at the constant need for repairs and no real customer service. I'm waiting for the big luxury brands to come out with product.
I just can't see how it could be the same range or close to the same range on the highway versus the street. Electric vehicles already favor lower speed so if you are getting 500 at highway speed then you would think that you probably could get almost 50+ miles more if you're doing 50 mph and under. It seems like they are greatly underestimating how far they could go on the street. Which is a great thing.
@@StephaunLovelace Wind resistance plays a huge part in a car's performance, so the faster you go the more energy you need to break wind resistance. So yes I will allow your comment
@@StephaunLovelace except that in the city, when you stop, you're still using energy if the radio is on, the ac or heat, brake lights etc. So it kind of balances out. As far as highway goes, it only has a .2 coefficient of drag, so wind resistance, even at ⁷⁰ compared to ⁵⁰, the difference is minimal... For the time being, this is the car, of my Lucid dreams!
@@Quickened1 I agree, in addition when driving city cycle you also have the extra battery drain from multiple accelerations from zero back up to speed due to the inevitable stop and go driving conditions. You will get brake regeneration when you slow to a stop at a stop sign or traffic light, however the energy used to accelerate back up to speed would likely use more kW than you recovered during brake regeneration. Not sure how this compares to steady state driving on highway with the wind drag and rolling resistance of the tires contributing to battery drain….
It IS "outstanding". Now, go away and think about why it WON'T be available in lower cost EVs. There are numerous reasons, all discussed at great length, most valid.
@@rogerstarkey5390 People can still hope. And I dont have to go anywhere, but when I do in my Porsche Taycan, I wont be worried about you pal. Anyway I’d like to see this and other tech make its way down to more affordable cars for everyone to use and enjoy. Just like I said.
There is a secret. Apart of bigger battery, the main reason are narrow tires. Both Tesla S and Porsche Taycan use much wider, staggered setups, especially Taycan. LDE-235/235 to MS-245/255 and PT-245/305. Also, Lucid uses all-season tires, which have less grip and less friction also. It changes a lot! Like 10%+ Actually, there is not really a tech in Lucid, which can improve cheaper cars. 1. 2170 cells in battery on ordinary chemistry. We have it already for years. No LFPs or 4680s or similar. 2. 800V architecture gives you advantage at the beginning of charging 5-10% of the very big batteries. Cheaper cars have smaller batteries and lower charging power because of that. Irrelevant. 3. 800V components are more expensive. 4. No structural battery in Lucid - old architecture small modules (e.g. M3 has 4 modules, MS 9 modules, MYB/A - 1 battery, no modules. Lucid ADE - 22 modules). 5. Full aluminium body - expensive material and manufacturing. Old school welding - a lot of robots. 6. Not very sophisticated body-in-white construction - car is heavy, even without battery and with light drivetrain. 7. Not very sophisticated software, no autopilot (now) or any future solutions. It is not a software company with a lot of experience. 8. No experience or known breakthroughs in manufacturing. Actually, they have very poor track record till now - something like 100 cars in a quarter? 9. No new optimized factory - it takes them ages to build anything. The only thing, which looks promising is small drivetrain. But is it cheap and easy to manufacture?
@@AndrewSienx Having the longest proven range in the market right now looks promising enough for me, unless you are one of those guys that hate EV in general
I like the efficiency 4.3 mi/kWh. Only Ioniq 38 kWh has higher efficiency 4.5 (Tom tested). While range decides how far we go, efficiency decides how quickly we gain miles while charging on Level 1 & 2. Also, more efficiency = less resources used.
Tom, wow that’s amazing.. 500 miles in not perfect conditions, I know when using the heater during a very long drive takes off a ton of range, using AC in summer takes off less then winter using the heater .. still amazing can’t wait to get one in a few years.. thanks for all you do Tom ... 👍
Now with the charge test you conducted I’d like to see how many miles per minute in charging you get back using the 70 MPH Range Test figure at _ _ _ miles you just got. Let me preempt you by saying it’s astounding on both measures but none the less we’ll wait for the stats as always. Awesome job testing a truly awesome EV. 💯 Great Job Lucid‼️
Doesn't really matter. What's important is it that it (along with others) smashes the "range anxiety" myth. From now on, when asked "how far" you can take the same stance as Rolls Royce always did when asked about "performance". Standard reply. "Sufficient".
Lucid is King of EV... Tesla Plaid S : 3.3 kWh vs Lucid 4.3 kWh. Amazing Technology 👏 🙀 😯 😮 5236lbs with 4.3kWh.. then later small Tesla3 like 3700 lbs with 50 kW battery could go as far as 300 miles and $25000.00 ??? That would be killer car ...Lets go. Lucid Tom How was ride ???
The amount of efficiency lucid could end up with could be pure alien.i can imagine them making a car that can go halfway across the US and still have range left.
Thank you for this, Tom. It's nice to see other manufacturers (start-up and OEM) innovating and moving the EV needle. This is a much nicer car than anything Tesla is making. Here's to the new era of luxury, style and grace.
I'd like it if my model 3 had that range. But that's more of a want than a need. That's incredible range though. Nice job lucid for giving what seems to be a reasonably accurate range number.
Lucid knows how to not overestimate their numbers, unlike Tesla. And it seems like they don't criminally underrate their numbers either like Porsche does.
@@snakeeyes9246 Don't you think that EPA is a botched procedure if such discrepancies are possible in both directions? I remember also very EPA optimised company before - VW. Diesels. Lucid uses narrow tires - it looks good for EPA, but is it good for safety of the 1000hp+ car?
My Model 3 EPA is way too optimistic. It's basically like 15% less in real life (with no AC/heater usage) and that was really disappointing. I'm surprised not many reviewers mention this considering that's a good 50 miles of range just never available
@@ult19x65 I could probably get EPA on mine with the right conditions...but that's kinda of the sad thing. These numbers don't seem to capture reality for a wide enough user base for some cars. And tesla pretty much across the board don't match up anywhere near reality. I could definitely get the epa rating if I stayed in my city and drove around for 250mi but that would take forever and be mind-numbing. The only time I care about getting my actual range is on a road trip which is why I find these test pretty useful.
@@OverlordActual I agree, but Elon's own statements is that the price increases are bc of "superior range", which has been disappointing. Lucid and Hyundai for instance, has better battery than its EPA range
What is actually insane is the consumption and how incredibly efficient the drivetrain is. 14,6kwh/100km with AC on while doing 70mph/112kmh is incredible.
Great vid, Tom! Always the consumate professional! I think the Air would have gotten 520+ mi if you tested on flatter ground like you say it is in NJ. A really phenomenal result. One of the things I have learnt is the narrower tires seems to make a big difference in range and I wish all EV producers would do this. It's an easy way to increase range without affecting grip and safety much (depending off course on how far you take it). EVs are coming full circle. No more range excuses. I know the Air is expensive and a low volume vehicle, but it is a fantastically engineered car.
Thanks, Tom! WOW! So glad to see Lucid is delivering what it claims. This is why competition is good for business. Every company that pushes the bar further ahead challenges all the rest to get even better. Congratulations Lucid!
@@Miata822Grow up and behave. Now that the name calling is done, challenge what was wrong in my statement? I heard nothing about TESLA or Lucid in his speeches. According to him, the union shops of GM were going to save the day and bring the electric cars to the world. I would love to see where that makes anyone a simpleton, other than a person with your reply. If you are some leftists, then I understand your limited intellect gets in the way. Those of us in the center prefer discussion and debate and will leave you to the name calling with the far right. You Biden voters can have your name calling, juvenile arguments with the Trump voters.
I will always give you guys credit for delivering such unbiased real world tests! This is what true journalism is all about and this is what we need to convince critics of emobility! Thank you so much!
*Smacks down Warren.* But Tesla chose not to build a 500+ mile range Model S so as _not to waste resources_ within such a ridiculous, *insignificantly tiny, uber-lux EV market.* Tesla actually has a highly profitable, high- volume business to run focusing on high margins and world-wide mass production, and Lucid has hand-built a tiny handful of vehicles in a micro-factory.
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 Tesla's 500 mile range car depends on batteries they haven't put into a production car yet. Cancelling it for the reasons you stated is was just making excuses.
With COVID and working from home I would only have to charge this once a month. Now, if I could just find $170,000 in spare change under my sofa cushions...
I always find it interesting that a gain of 30kWh over the Taycan leads to a 200-300 mile range increase. Admittedly they're tuned and aimed at completely different markets but it's impressive how different manufacturers drive units are so different in energy conversion considering it's the same natural laws governing said conversion.
I’m a big fan of Tom! At 88 kWh consumed, 374 miles driven? I’d be happy with that range in any car. I wish more SUVs with this battery size (~88 kWh) could get closer to this efficiency (4.3 miles/kWh)
Sensational... so if i understood this correctly the lucid has 18kw more battery capacity than Tesla and @ the 70mph test it provides 200miles more range!!! yes or no?
Kudos Tom for the ability to maintain dialogue without pausing to gather your thoughts all while driving. Holy moly. I couldn’t carry on a conversation with myself that well.
Air GT owner. Finally (even if it is 2 years ago) a video devoted to range and range only. Good eval of what a consumer actually cares about. I sure would like to see a follow up on the Air GT with the 21's installed, which I have. I consistantly get 470 miles of range on my 21's. I spoke to my service tech about possibly getting the 19's, but he tells me that this is only a free option at the time of purchase (which of course I didn't know) so that the car can be configured for both the 19's and 21's for optimal performance. If you choose to get it done after, it is a $5K charge. Hardly worth the extra 30+ mile range gained, not to mention the price of the wheels and tires. I personally liked that there was elevation changes for the real world test, because it represents what the consumer would expect to get on their day to day travels. To be fair, the 470 range I get is based on my ending mileage plus the range I still have when I pull into the EA station. It is unwise to drive in real world conditions to zero charge state, just like it is unwise to drive an ICE to empty. Again good eval, and I will search around for a follow up to this video for the Air GT with the 21's!
Tom thanks for doing the range test on the Lucid Air Dream Edition. 500 miles is a pretty good range for an electric vehicle. Since we only have one electrify America level 3 charger in Minnesota that vehicle Would be great for somebody in Northern or Southern Minnesota where there's no DC fast charging. Great job Tom
Awesome job. I’m looking forward to the day Lucid starts making more affordable cars. But it has to be said that with this car at least, the whole idea of range anxiety is completely demolished. You could drive this car ALL DAY, and then just charge over night and do it again. Or road tripping, drive longer than you would probably want to, and charge while you sleep at the hotel. We’re looking at the future of electric cars, and range anxiety for sedan and suvs type vehicles isn’t a part of it.
Even with 11 kWh L2 charging, it would take close to 12 hours to recharge this monster from 0%. In my experience, the L2 charging available at hotels is often a lot less than 11 kWh. But, point taken.
This just shows the Performance is the one to get. Who the hell wants to drive for 7 hours. Take the range penalty and get 1,111hp. You won't miss the extra range that the Range trim gives you.
@@rich8669 Disagree. The 900+ hp of the range edition is way more power than I want or need, but I’d gladly take that extra range. But hey, everybody’s different
As a sequel to this video, we need the Lucid Road Trip Bladder Challenge. Can you drain the battery without draining your bladder? That would be impressive. Thanks for the test; this bodes well for the future of great road-tripping EVs.
Great range test! I live in AZ and pretty I sure I know the route your took around the 202, 101 loop, which is beautiful this time of year. Hands down, Lucid is THE luxury car to buy.
That matches the best efficiency I’ve ever gotten from my 2021 Model 3 LR and soundly beats what it gets most of the time (usually around 3.8-4.0mi/kwh in non-winter conditions). Impressive that they can get such solid efficiency in a large and powerful car. I wish other manufacturers would make the same effort. We could have more affordable long-range EVs if they focused on efficiency rather than bigger batteries.
Man, I really hope Lucid can stay afloat! This is the range that I've been waiting for in an EV before I would even consider getting one. This is insane! With 500 miles of Range. Range Anxiety is completely eliminated.
That is 146 Wh/km if I calculated corr3ctlz and that at 110kmh (European style). That is close to 8nsane consider8ng it carries a battery pack that is app. 57% larger than that of the Model 3 LR I ride (118 usable to 75 usabel). So it must be substantially heavier. And I would just get about the same Wh/km value out of mine. So the Lucid Air must be substantially more efficient. Respect. Different level of a car but I doubt that the Plaid can come close.
In Europe we do 1000 km tests with EVs. If you stomach driving 100 mph (most testers don't go over 132 kph, 120 kph + 10%), and you have a 350 kW charger by the route, you could make a hip video logging 1000 km in like 8 hours or less. With a 132 kph cruising speed, 9 hours is really fast.
That's a very impressive range. And the efficiency is really high for highway speeds. If you guys get a chance to run one of these out west across Texas. It would be interesting to see what the efficiency is like running it 85 miles per hour. You could do that pretty easily west of Dallas.. lots of empty highway and the speed limit is 80 so you can run 85 without worrying about tickets.
That really is incredible range. Almost unnecessary range. For my needs it would probably be better to have a smaller battery pack and get better efficiency. I would probably need to always stop after 350 miles and take a break to charge. 500 mile range is still very impressive though.
Wow. Thank you so much for this content! So happy that someone made a REAL range test in a way that is also significant for many future EV buyers. Now i do wonder how this car is gonna hold up in the winter! Thanks again for your efforts :)
Any gas car with more than a 4 cylinder would have trouble hitting 500 mile range (unless you have a massive gas tank). In fact, I don’t think there is a single gas car with this kind of performance and range.
@@barryw9473 perhaps a PHEV is in her future? Charging every night, and filling up the tank whenever cheap gasoline can be found should help mitigate this.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis a BEV is in her future. No need for gas when 200+ mile BEVs at somewhat reasonable prices are available. Also, there is no cheap gasoline in the SF Bay Area.
This is absolutely crazy, amazing achievement! I can do about half of this in my Taycan. On the other hand, if I stop for a small break after 250 miles (like you did and like every normal person does in a gascar)for, let's say 20-30 min, my battery are topped up to 80-90% and ready to go another 200+ miles. This is a great car for people with rangeanxiety 😋
I was waiting for this video with great curiosity and wasn’t disappointed! Excellent (car and tester). It’s great to see that (unlike other brands… no naming here) the real world range is very close to the rated. Less than 4% deviation, and that at cool temps. At 70F it might have hit the ETA. I am waiting for the recliners in the rear, highway level 4 autonomy, and then get one for the night drives Charlotte - Miami with on pee and recharge stop, sleeping otherwise in comfort through the night.
Thanks, Tom! Been waiting for this video! Question: Why does the Cruise Control work in this car but not in the ones delivered to customers? Also, could u please do a range test on the Model S (non-Plaid) with 19 inch rims? U r a gentleman and a star!
It actually does work in customer cars. Lucid's suite of ADAS isn't complete, but the ACC works to customers as it did for me. Other features like lane centering don't work and will be updated later, but all cars being delivered now had ACC which I used.
This is super impressive for the first model of a Lucid car and it looks gorgeous in white. The next project would be to make Tesla model 3 like Lucid that more people can afford
Kudos to Tom for being such a trooper and a true professional! That's a helluva day of driving. Big congratulations to the Lucid team for putting together an amazingly efficient product that is on another level when it comes to going the distance. 500 miles is unreal.
Such devotion to duty. Can you imagine sitting in a very special 1,000hp car built for speed driving on long straight desert roads for 7 hours and never once stabbing the accelerator?
Such will power! 3:17
Incredible. Well done, Tom. Very satisfying that it hit 500 on the dot.
That's REALLY going to annoy "others", isn't it...... 😁
Lucid air is officially the king of the road. Congratulations to team lucid for delivering what they have promised.
Have to be out and on the road to be the king. Are they even shipping any quantity of these?
@@stevenmorgan8223 yes
@@stevenmorgan8223 you live inside or under a rock?
@@nicholasnimey4817 A Tesla-shaped rock, no doubt.
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There’s more moon rocks on the market, than these things.
That's insanely impressive, I would have ZERO range anxiety in that and I remember being impressed with 300 miles of range. Lucid is just getting started, I can't wait to see what they do next.
Sell your house to achieve zero range anxiety and live (in) the Dream ;-)
@@savedfaves Even if I sold my house I couldn't afford a Lucid...lol I do like the tech that goes into the cars.
Impressive!!
The first car in the 500 in the 70mph hwy range test, and also only a mere 3.8% behind its 5 cycle EPA range estimate.
New long range King, I suppose?
It's all gravy now.
Unfortunately it’s not the real world!
Ive had one for 3900 miles and the best I have gotten in good weather and conservative driving is 340😳
@@gburesh how is that possible? ev vehicles consumes more on highway driving... in city driving ev vehicles is even more efficient... what type of climate are you living?
@@fastanfun Summer conditions
Wow! We have a new range king in town. Well done Tom for your dedication to independent, real world tests.
More than a confirmation of (impressive) ultimate range, this defeats once and for all the "range anxiety" opinion.
Any driver trying to Outrange this (and others) is stupid, dangerous, or both. That's even on an extended, day long journey.
@@rogerstarkey5390 correct my M340i gets 450 miles in a 15 gal tank. Thats good for 2 weeks worth of 50 mile 5 day a week commute. The range anxiety is now gone. I want the LUCID SUV in the future.
Thank you for your dedication and work 500 miles is super awesome. Range anxiety is truly a thing of the past.
Great to see a luxEV get 500 miles of range. I like your no-bs style!
with the fan on 3 and temp set
Wow who would ever have thought an EV could travel for 8hrs at highway speeds incredible job Lucid (& Tom)
Definitely impressive, although 8 hours at 70 miles per hour is not really going that fast. But it's definitely impressive relative to anything else that's available. The 4.3 miles per kilowatt hour efficiency was very good.
I'd like to see the same test done out west rolling it 85 mph just to see what the difference is.
Where I live if you're running 70 miles an hour you're going to get run over lol..
Another perspective.
What proportion of drivers wants to even *try* running 8 hours without a break for food, "relief" or even a walk around the car? (Not to mention social media)
I would guess at below 1%.
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The advantage of having that much range, is that you could stop and take that break you're talking about but not need to be forced to also make it a charging stop. There's not always chargers at the same place that there's food and refreshments, and vice versa.
Always better to have more range if possible. I also suspect that if you could run just to 50% charge and then plug in you probably going to get a much faster charge rate in the lower part of the battery.
This is incredibly impressive, congratulations to the entire lucid team and thanks to Tom for bringing this content to us!
Tesla Model 3P owner here and I’ve been looking at Lucid for a long time. I just ordered a Lucid air grand touring (19” wheels) 516 mile range. This video, which looks easy and people take for granted is the #1 reason I ordered this car. I trust Tom and this confirmation of the range is what I needed. Thank you sir! Cheers!
That's a great result, Well done, Tom.
You'll need to move to 200 miles loop drives very soon.
500 miles of highway range with that efficiency is a milestone for EVs technology. This video deserves a lot more than 70k views.
It would be if it were real world. People will be using the radio, heat or a/c, windows down, charging their phones, not pre warming the battery, etc… you’re not getting this range in real world.
@@Dub-ry4cs well 70 mph speed is already a demanding test. Suppose to subtract 20/30 miles for the auxiliaries if needed. Still impressive imho.
@@gabrielecomensoli2787 you can lose up to 17% just from the A/C alone. So you’re talking up to 85 miles off range from just that.
@@Dub-ry4cs he had the HVAC on..
Terrific highway performance, what car will duplicate this range? Peter Rawlinson certainly has some serious secrets built into this car. Absolute Cannonball winner!
Probably a lot of cars over time. Battery tech will advance for more energy density.
They already indicated what the "secrets" are.
Compact, efficient drive units, efficient power management, a slightly larger pack and maybe a slightly reduced front cross section compared to others.
Secrets? It's just a large battery.
@@rogerstarkey5390 I saw an interview some time ago where the CEO said a large componet of the range was due to a lot of wind tunnel time.
Yes, there is a secret. Apart of bigger battery, the main reason are narrow tires.
Both Tesla S and Porsche Taycan use much wider, staggered setups, especially Taycan. LDE-235/235 to MS-245/255 and PT-245/305.
Also, Lucid uses all-season tires, which have less grip and less friction also.
It changes a lot!
If you use similar narrow tires on TS or Taycan, you will get quite similar efficiency (MS at least). Bear in mind also, that MS is a bigger car slightly.
It is a question if using narrow, low grip tires on 1000+ PS car is a responsible decision. Both Tesla and Porsche will not concur.
So, Lucid is obviously well engineered car, but at the end the marketing derived configuration decisions are questionable - and typical for Lucid as a company.
Awesome results and grueling endurance test. 4.3 miles/kWh is impressive for such a well built and equipped car!
Tesla S plad got 3.3m/KWh, one of the Taycan got 3.4m/KWh, Tesla M3LR got 4.3m/KWh. Lucid is very efficient for such a large car.
The only thing more impressive is Tom's bladder capacity. One bathroom break in a 500 mile road trip! My new Long Range Hero.
I calculate that as 145 MPGe. Not bad!
@@AhBeeDoi Long range bladder.
Absolutely fantastic test and result. There's no way on earth we can all wait until next Friday to talk about this.
Midweek bonus podcast?
one thing is for sure, Lucid has cemented its place in the industry. Crazy to believe that this is a startup. if Lucid can deliver in production they will quickly surpass all luxury automakers in the world. amazing stuff!
The factory is tiny, they are making hardly any of these. Lucid won't be around for long.
@@bluetoad2668 That makes servicing them crazy-scary if the company is so small, especially if one is located far from their HQ.
@@neergewleinad hopefully they will be very reliable as one would expect from an EV.
They will only cement their place in the industry if they can scale, produce quality vehicles, and manage customer service. Right now Tesla is producing OKish cars but the quality is not great and their customer service even worse.
Nevertheless, this is an impressive result and I’m hopeful for the EV future.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis SO far none of the EV's are reliable. Look at the consumer satisfaction of Tesla, and the Volt. Everyone loves owning an EV but pissed at the constant need for repairs and no real customer service. I'm waiting for the big luxury brands to come out with product.
This is a BIG DEAL. You should be so excited that you're the first that gets to do this.
Thanks Tom! Looking forward to Warren Redlich rant 🤣
With all the variables (elevation and AC use) it probably does do 520 in ideal conditions. Great review
I just can't see how it could be the same range or close to the same range on the highway versus the street. Electric vehicles already favor lower speed so if you are getting 500 at highway speed then you would think that you probably could get almost 50+ miles more if you're doing 50 mph and under. It seems like they are greatly underestimating how far they could go on the street. Which is a great thing.
@@StephaunLovelace Wind resistance plays a huge part in a car's performance, so the faster you go the more energy you need to break wind resistance. So yes I will allow your comment
@@StephaunLovelace except that in the city, when you stop, you're still using energy if the radio is on, the ac or heat, brake lights etc. So it kind of balances out. As far as highway goes, it only has a .2 coefficient of drag, so wind resistance, even at ⁷⁰ compared to ⁵⁰, the difference is minimal... For the time being, this is the car, of my Lucid dreams!
Good point.
@@Quickened1 I agree, in addition when driving city cycle you also have the extra battery drain from multiple accelerations from zero back up to speed due to the inevitable stop and go driving conditions. You will get brake regeneration when you slow to a stop at a stop sign or traffic light, however the energy used to accelerate back up to speed would likely use more kW than you recovered during brake regeneration. Not sure how this compares to steady state driving on highway with the wind drag and rolling resistance of the tires contributing to battery drain….
I was eagerly looking forward to this video.. I'm glad it's finally up. Thank you for the dedication. This Lucid is a range monster
That is OUTSTANDING! Would love to see this range in lower costing EVs!
It IS "outstanding".
Now, go away and think about why it WON'T be available in lower cost EVs.
There are numerous reasons, all discussed at great length, most valid.
@@rogerstarkey5390 yea it will be. EVs are still in the infancy stage right now. ICE cars had over a century to optimize. EVs had maybe a decade or 2.
@@rogerstarkey5390 People can still hope. And I dont have to go anywhere, but when I do in my Porsche Taycan, I wont be worried about you pal.
Anyway I’d like to see this and other tech make its way down to more affordable cars for everyone to use and enjoy. Just like I said.
There is a secret. Apart of bigger battery, the main reason are narrow tires.
Both Tesla S and Porsche Taycan use much wider, staggered setups, especially Taycan. LDE-235/235 to MS-245/255 and PT-245/305.
Also, Lucid uses all-season tires, which have less grip and less friction also.
It changes a lot! Like 10%+
Actually, there is not really a tech in Lucid, which can improve cheaper cars.
1. 2170 cells in battery on ordinary chemistry. We have it already for years. No LFPs or 4680s or similar.
2. 800V architecture gives you advantage at the beginning of charging 5-10% of the very big batteries. Cheaper cars have smaller batteries and lower charging power because of that. Irrelevant.
3. 800V components are more expensive.
4. No structural battery in Lucid - old architecture small modules (e.g. M3 has 4 modules, MS 9 modules, MYB/A - 1 battery, no modules. Lucid ADE - 22 modules).
5. Full aluminium body - expensive material and manufacturing. Old school welding - a lot of robots.
6. Not very sophisticated body-in-white construction - car is heavy, even without battery and with light drivetrain.
7. Not very sophisticated software, no autopilot (now) or any future solutions. It is not a software company with a lot of experience.
8. No experience or known breakthroughs in manufacturing. Actually, they have very poor track record till now - something like 100 cars in a quarter?
9. No new optimized factory - it takes them ages to build anything.
The only thing, which looks promising is small drivetrain. But is it cheap and easy to manufacture?
@@AndrewSienx Having the longest proven range in the market right now looks promising enough for me, unless you are one of those guys that hate EV in general
Thanks for dedicating the time to do the test, Tom! Fantastic numbers from Lucid!
Incredible results! Thanks so much for going through all that for us Tom!
Excellent video Tom!!! I'm blown away that it did 500 @ 70 with the AC on.
I like the efficiency 4.3 mi/kWh. Only Ioniq 38 kWh has higher efficiency 4.5 (Tom tested). While range decides how far we go, efficiency decides how quickly we gain miles while charging on Level 1 & 2. Also, more efficiency = less resources used.
Tom, wow that’s amazing.. 500 miles in not perfect conditions, I know when using the heater during a very long drive takes off a ton of range, using AC in summer takes off less then winter using the heater .. still amazing can’t wait to get one in a few years.. thanks for all you do Tom ... 👍
It's not the cabin heater that takes the range but the higher density of cold air.
That is a clear winner in the EV world for range
Tom you are a trooper, immense dedication on your part to inform the public of your findings.
Now with the charge test you conducted I’d like to see how many miles per minute in charging you get back using the 70 MPH Range Test figure at _ _ _ miles you just got. Let me preempt you by saying it’s astounding on both measures but none the less we’ll wait for the stats as always. Awesome job testing a truly awesome EV. 💯 Great Job Lucid‼️
Doesn't really matter.
What's important is it that it (along with others) smashes the "range anxiety" myth.
From now on, when asked "how far" you can take the same stance as Rolls Royce always did when asked about "performance".
Standard reply.
"Sufficient".
Damn impressive. Not only the range, but the efficiency. That is no small car to be getting 4.3 m/KwH. Great job as always Tom.
My chevy bolt gets worse
I was thinking the same thing: My new VW ID.4 has been averaging about 3.0 m/KwH in about 800 miles of mixed use driving.
Lucid is King of EV...
Tesla Plaid S : 3.3 kWh vs Lucid 4.3 kWh.
Amazing Technology 👏 🙀 😯 😮
5236lbs with 4.3kWh.. then later small Tesla3 like 3700 lbs with 50 kW battery could go as far as 300 miles and $25000.00 ???
That would be killer car ...Lets go. Lucid
Tom
How was ride ???
Plaid had 21" wheels not 19" and this compares to the Model S LR.
Great efficiency for such a big car, look forward to seeing the Lucid tech in smaller and more affordable cars in a few years
The amount of efficiency lucid could end up with could be pure alien.i can imagine them making a car that can go halfway across the US and still have range left.
Thanks for doing the hard work! Amazing result. In a league of its own.
Thank you for this, Tom. It's nice to see other manufacturers (start-up and OEM) innovating and moving the EV needle. This is a much nicer car than anything Tesla is making. Here's to the new era of luxury, style and grace.
I'd like it if my model 3 had that range. But that's more of a want than a need. That's incredible range though. Nice job lucid for giving what seems to be a reasonably accurate range number.
Lucid knows how to not overestimate their numbers, unlike Tesla. And it seems like they don't criminally underrate their numbers either like Porsche does.
@@snakeeyes9246 Don't you think that EPA is a botched procedure if such discrepancies are possible in both directions?
I remember also very EPA optimised company before - VW. Diesels.
Lucid uses narrow tires - it looks good for EPA, but is it good for safety of the 1000hp+ car?
My Model 3 EPA is way too optimistic. It's basically like 15% less in real life (with no AC/heater usage) and that was really disappointing. I'm surprised not many reviewers mention this considering that's a good 50 miles of range just never available
@@ult19x65 I could probably get EPA on mine with the right conditions...but that's kinda of the sad thing. These numbers don't seem to capture reality for a wide enough user base for some cars. And tesla pretty much across the board don't match up anywhere near reality. I could definitely get the epa rating if I stayed in my city and drove around for 250mi but that would take forever and be mind-numbing.
The only time I care about getting my actual range is on a road trip which is why I find these test pretty useful.
@@OverlordActual I agree, but Elon's own statements is that the price increases are bc of "superior range", which has been disappointing. Lucid and Hyundai for instance, has better battery than its EPA range
What is actually insane is the consumption and how incredibly efficient the drivetrain is. 14,6kwh/100km with AC on while doing 70mph/112kmh is incredible.
Great vid, Tom! Always the consumate professional! I think the Air would have gotten 520+ mi if you tested on flatter ground like you say it is in NJ.
A really phenomenal result. One of the things I have learnt is the narrower tires seems to make a big difference in range and I wish all EV producers would do this. It's an easy way to increase range without affecting grip and safety much (depending off course on how far you take it).
EVs are coming full circle. No more range excuses. I know the Air is expensive and a low volume vehicle, but it is a fantastically engineered car.
Thanks, Tom!
WOW! So glad to see Lucid is delivering what it claims.
This is why competition is good for business. Every company that pushes the bar further ahead challenges all the rest to get even better. Congratulations Lucid!
Unless you are Joe Biden and you ignore all of the leading EV's praising only union shops that are not in the business yet.
@@stevenmorgan8223 Simpelton.
@@Miata822Grow up and behave. Now that the name calling is done, challenge what was wrong in my statement? I heard nothing about TESLA or Lucid in his speeches. According to him, the union shops of GM were going to save the day and bring the electric cars to the world. I would love to see where that makes anyone a simpleton, other than a person with your reply. If you are some leftists, then I understand your limited intellect gets in the way. Those of us in the center prefer discussion and debate and will leave you to the name calling with the far right. You Biden voters can have your name calling, juvenile arguments with the Trump voters.
I’m glad that you hit 500. I’m guessing that you didn’t drink much liquid before the test began. Informative video and great job!
Seriously impressive range. 👏🏽
And the car😉
That is freaking amazing. It makes me almost want the 19" wheels on the Air.
*almost* 😆
Great video, thanks for spending that very long day verifying the 70mph range of the Lucid Air & showing it efficiency of 4.3 miles per kwh.🙂
That is incredible, Tom. It proves that this car is slippery - even at 70 mph. Thank you for doing this test.
Lucid NAILED IT. Where's Warren Redlich. Let's see what shit hell say about Lucid and the Air now.
I will always give you guys credit for delivering such unbiased real world tests!
This is what true journalism is all about and this is what we need to convince critics of emobility!
Thank you so much!
Well done Tom. That comprehensively gives Tesla and irrational Warren a huge smackdown. It's a fantastic car, time for the cheap people's car, Lucid.
*Smacks down Warren.* But Tesla chose not to build a 500+ mile range Model S so as _not to waste resources_ within such a ridiculous, *insignificantly tiny, uber-lux EV market.* Tesla actually has a highly profitable, high- volume business to run focusing on high margins and world-wide mass production, and Lucid has hand-built a tiny handful of vehicles in a micro-factory.
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 Tesla's 500 mile range car depends on batteries they haven't put into a production car yet. Cancelling it for the reasons you stated is was just making excuses.
@@D44rkFx
You say they haven't put them into a production car yet ...... (That we've seen .... Wait 2 weeks)
@@D44rkFx blah blah blah
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 I'm glad you agree with me
Nice. Wating for my Air Pure later this year. can't wait
hope you enjoy!such an incredible car👌🏽
Thanks Tom! Love the range test!
With COVID and working from home I would only have to charge this once a month. Now, if I could just find $170,000 in spare change under my sofa cushions...
That would be nice. This is currently the only American vehicle I would ever consider buying.
77k car available
Wow, congratulations on being the first official range test over 500 miles!!!
I always find it interesting that a gain of 30kWh over the Taycan leads to a 200-300 mile range increase. Admittedly they're tuned and aimed at completely different markets but it's impressive how different manufacturers drive units are so different in energy conversion considering it's the same natural laws governing said conversion.
I’m a big fan of Tom!
At 88 kWh consumed, 374 miles driven? I’d be happy with that range in any car. I wish more SUVs with this battery size (~88 kWh) could get closer to this efficiency (4.3 miles/kWh)
Sensational... so if i understood this correctly the lucid has 18kw more battery capacity than Tesla and @ the 70mph test it provides 200miles more range!!! yes or no?
Thank you so much, Tom! I hope the seat was comfortable.
Kudos Tom for the ability to maintain dialogue without pausing to gather your thoughts all while driving. Holy moly. I couldn’t carry on a conversation with myself that well.
Don't be so sure I did it in 1 take!
Very impressive range. Thanks for the test.
Lucid had definitely learned from its Formula E ventures. I guess EVs are no different in that racing can lead to some groundbreaking innovation.
Air GT owner. Finally (even if it is 2 years ago) a video devoted to range and range only. Good eval of what a consumer actually cares about. I sure would like to see a follow up on the Air GT with the 21's installed, which I have. I consistantly get 470 miles of range on my 21's. I spoke to my service tech about possibly getting the 19's, but he tells me that this is only a free option at the time of purchase (which of course I didn't know) so that the car can be configured for both the 19's and 21's for optimal performance. If you choose to get it done after, it is a $5K charge. Hardly worth the extra 30+ mile range gained, not to mention the price of the wheels and tires. I personally liked that there was elevation changes for the real world test, because it represents what the consumer would expect to get on their day to day travels.
To be fair, the 470 range I get is based on my ending mileage plus the range I still have when I pull into the EA station. It is unwise to drive in real world conditions to zero charge state, just like it is unwise to drive an ICE to empty.
Again good eval, and I will search around for a follow up to this video for the Air GT with the 21's!
Simply amazing. I'm hoping (and expecting) to get half of that with my standard range mustang mach e.
Hi Tom. Way to take one for the team on such a long range test! That is an amazing result!
After 3.5 hours of driving, I couldn't believe it was still at 50% SOC.
@@InsideEVsUS my hope is Lucid can translate these efficiencies to a more affordable car.
Tom thanks for doing the range test on the Lucid Air Dream Edition. 500 miles is a pretty good range for an electric vehicle. Since we only have one electrify America level 3 charger in Minnesota that vehicle Would be great for somebody in Northern or Southern Minnesota where there's no DC fast charging. Great job Tom
Warren redlish sweating rn
Thanks for the video. It must’ve been exhausting.
Awesome job. I’m looking forward to the day Lucid starts making more affordable cars. But it has to be said that with this car at least, the whole idea of range anxiety is completely demolished. You could drive this car ALL DAY, and then just charge over night and do it again. Or road tripping, drive longer than you would probably want to, and charge while you sleep at the hotel. We’re looking at the future of electric cars, and range anxiety for sedan and suvs type vehicles isn’t a part of it.
Even with 11 kWh L2 charging, it would take close to 12 hours to recharge this monster from 0%. In my experience, the L2 charging available at hotels is often a lot less than 11 kWh. But, point taken.
@@larrybehrendt4256 12 hours is a good break from driving to have👌🏽
Amazing. Great job!
Wow what an Amazing Test and car. Thanks Tom.
This just shows the Performance is the one to get. Who the hell wants to drive for 7 hours. Take the range penalty and get 1,111hp. You won't miss the extra range that the Range trim gives you.
And I would argue who the hell needs 1111hp??😅
@@CK-1000 who needs 400hp? Because more HP is more fun. When it comes to $100,000+ cars, "needs", completely go out the window.
@@rich8669 Disagree. The 900+ hp of the range edition is way more power than I want or need, but I’d gladly take that extra range. But hey, everybody’s different
fantastic long hauler. Surely that is as far as anyone needs to drive. Great video Tom.
Great! efficiency!
Respect Tom, for driving this much just to inform others.
Awesome! I watched the whole video Tom. I think your beard did grow.
It was a loooong day.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
"Take a load off"
We'll decimate the "alternative opinion".
Great Work! Once again, Lucid delivers its promises. The company is just as reliable as the vehicle, and soar as powerful as the range!
Reliability definitely hasn't been fleshed out.....
@@laloajuria4678 ???
@@tngermaine1 yes do you have a question?
As a sequel to this video, we need the Lucid Road Trip Bladder Challenge. Can you drain the battery without draining your bladder? That would be impressive. Thanks for the test; this bodes well for the future of great road-tripping EVs.
Unbelievable car 🚗
It's a top notch
I will be investing in this LUCID right now while the price/stock is still low
Great range test! I live in AZ and pretty I sure I know the route your took around the 202, 101 loop, which is beautiful this time of year. Hands down, Lucid is THE luxury car to buy.
Not the 101, the 303.
That matches the best efficiency I’ve ever gotten from my 2021 Model 3 LR and soundly beats what it gets most of the time (usually around 3.8-4.0mi/kwh in non-winter conditions). Impressive that they can get such solid efficiency in a large and powerful car. I wish other manufacturers would make the same effort. We could have more affordable long-range EVs if they focused on efficiency rather than bigger batteries.
Thanks sir! Great! Thanks a lot!
Man, I really hope Lucid can stay afloat! This is the range that I've been waiting for in an EV before I would even consider getting one. This is insane! With 500 miles of Range. Range Anxiety is completely eliminated.
That’s incredibly impressive!
Kudos to Lucid team. You did a very good job.
That is 146 Wh/km if I calculated corr3ctlz and that at 110kmh (European style). That is close to 8nsane consider8ng it carries a battery pack that is app. 57% larger than that of the Model 3 LR I ride (118 usable to 75 usabel). So it must be substantially heavier. And I would just get about the same Wh/km value out of mine. So the Lucid Air must be substantially more efficient. Respect. Different level of a car but I doubt that the Plaid can come close.
In Europe we do 1000 km tests with EVs. If you stomach driving 100 mph (most testers don't go over 132 kph, 120 kph + 10%), and you have a 350 kW charger by the route, you could make a hip video logging 1000 km in like 8 hours or less. With a 132 kph cruising speed, 9 hours is really fast.
lucid’s powertrain is extremely underestimated and this is nothing but their first model btw.pure insanity🔥
That's a very impressive range. And the efficiency is really high for highway speeds. If you guys get a chance to run one of these out west across Texas. It would be interesting to see what the efficiency is like running it 85 miles per hour. You could do that pretty easily west of Dallas.. lots of empty highway and the speed limit is 80 so you can run 85 without worrying about tickets.
That really is incredible range. Almost unnecessary range. For my needs it would probably be better to have a smaller battery pack and get better efficiency. I would probably need to always stop after 350 miles and take a break to charge. 500 mile range is still very impressive though.
Great job Tom! Fun video to watch!
Wow. Thank you so much for this content! So happy that someone made a REAL range test in a way that is also significant for many future EV buyers. Now i do wonder how this car is gonna hold up in the winter! Thanks again for your efforts :)
This is the kind of range that is needed
Amazing efficiency and pretty close to EPA, anyone still having range anxiety should consider staying with a gas car. I'm thoroughly impressed
There is just one problem, the price of the Lucid Air Range.
Any gas car with more than a 4 cylinder would have trouble hitting 500 mile range (unless you have a massive gas tank). In fact, I don’t think there is a single gas car with this kind of performance and range.
Huh? My wife has range anxiety in her gas car all the time as she likes to drive it down to ~1 to 10 miles left on the GOM.
@@barryw9473 perhaps a PHEV is in her future? Charging every night, and filling up the tank whenever cheap gasoline can be found should help mitigate this.
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis a BEV is in her future. No need for gas when 200+ mile BEVs at somewhat reasonable prices are available. Also, there is no cheap gasoline in the SF Bay Area.
Nice job Tom. Bladder of steel!
This is absolutely crazy, amazing achievement! I can do about half of this in my Taycan.
On the other hand, if I stop for a small break after 250 miles (like you did and like every normal person does in a gascar)for, let's say 20-30 min, my battery are topped up to 80-90% and ready to go another 200+ miles. This is a great car for people with rangeanxiety 😋
Superb vid Tom !! Keep it up man !!
I was waiting for this video with great curiosity and wasn’t disappointed! Excellent (car and tester).
It’s great to see that (unlike other brands… no naming here) the real world range is very close to the rated. Less than 4% deviation, and that at cool temps. At 70F it might have hit the ETA.
I am waiting for the recliners in the rear, highway level 4 autonomy, and then get one for the night drives Charlotte - Miami with on pee and recharge stop, sleeping otherwise in comfort through the night.
Impressive! Now they should be able to make a true SUV with around 400. That's the sweet spot for US sales.
Lucid SUV coming next year should be announced in few months
wow this car is insane
Thanks, Tom! Been waiting for this video!
Question: Why does the Cruise Control work in this car but not in the ones delivered to customers?
Also, could u please do a range test on the Model S (non-Plaid) with 19 inch rims?
U r a gentleman and a star!
It actually does work in customer cars. Lucid's suite of ADAS isn't complete, but the ACC works to customers as it did for me. Other features like lane centering don't work and will be updated later, but all cars being delivered now had ACC which I used.
Amazing. How does this only have 50k views? People need to see this, especially them Tesla fangais.
Just Wow!
This is super impressive for the first model of a Lucid car and it looks gorgeous in white. The next project would be to make Tesla model 3 like Lucid that more people can afford