The Host (Dead Meat Podcast
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- James and Chelsea talk Bong Joon-Ho’s 2006 monster masterpiece The Host & explore Korea’s relationship with the United States throughout the 20th century.
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MUSIC!!
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"U Make Me Feel" by MK2
Chelsea: We’re really busy so episodes are going to be chill for a while
Also Chelsea: Researches the history of the Korean War, how it affects modern Korean/US relations, and color what the color yellow means to Korean audiences.
you gotta love it
Still doesn’t know that they’re the Republic of Korea.
As a Korean, Chelsea did a FANTASTIC job in the beginning summarizing the unique and complicated history between the US and South Korea. Seriously, WELL DONE!!!!!!! :D
at this point, James is just Chelsea with a beard 😂😂
Or Chelsea is just James without a beard 👀
Chilllll 😂
I was thinking the same thing. 😂😂
Hey, they say couples start to look similar over time
Wait, isn’t that line on the middle of the screen just a mirror...
The food they served in the kiosk is what is typically called 'anjuu' which are foods you would eat while drinking. Korea has a particular drinking culture with rules and customs and traditions. But anjuu are not typically meals, we would consider them as snacks, but solely for drinking events. They're like beer snacks, the one in that particular scene is just dried squid (an acquired taste really). Now note that anjuu is like a genre of foods, there is no single concept of anjuu, it varies from dried squid to uncooked ramen noodles to spicy sea snail noodles... yeah its a weird thing, but think of them as Spanish Tapas, no two tapas are typically the same. Anyway, just thought I'd drop that nugget of knowledge... so... The more you know
Dried squid sounds amazing I'm getting hungry just reading this
@@Musicanimedork01 it's a curious dish because it is like jerky if you eat as is, but in the movie it shows a common practice of lightly roasting it over a stove fire, no pan or filter necessary. There is also an urban legend that the longest leg gives men extra endurance, so there's that... but then again they say that for a lot of long things, like eels and other edible sea creatures.
@@AsianAtTheDisco009 They also do that(dried squid) in my country. Women and children eat that here too and sometimes they dip it with vinegar. My mother craved eating dried squid that is roasted on charcoal when I was still a baby in her womb.
Oof now I'm craving dried squid.
Aioouui
Little background info: the reason Bong Joon Ho's movies have a strange focus or symbol on food is because of the fact the Koreans are literally STARVING during the world wars and the Korean War. They went thru some tough shit simply over the lack of food. It's really sad. Not to mention the fact that in North Korea TODAY, people are still starving and dying from lack of survival resources. So the Koreans value food so much on so many levels, spiritually, personally, ethnically, politically, etc. It's also the reason why they always greet each other with "Have you eaten yet?" instead of "hello" or "How are you?". If you watch kdramas or kmovies, you'll see that a lot because of that tragic historical past.
maybe they should just eat some food
@@aidandewaele7065 classic
James is a youtuber you can binge forever.
I can't wait for 6 months or a year down the line, when the earlier podcasts have faded from memory a bit so I can rewatch them.
And chelsea
I frequently turn on a playlist for this channel and just let it run while I'm cooking, cleaning, sewing, etc., especially videos I've already seen, because they're familiar and I just enjoy them.
And Lucy
When I'm bored I will rewatch and rewatch every killcount or podcast
James' quarantine hair is making him look like old school Drunk Disney James
I really appreciate that they took the time to provide some of the history between Korea and the US and how it relates to The Host - knowing the context adds a lot to this movie
20 minutes into this video and omg Chelsea THANK YOU for all of that history about relations between South Korea and the US before going into the movie. That amount of research and dedication is what makes this podcast amazing.
Dead meat: Bong Joon Ho creates characters you want to hang out and have a beer with
Curtis from snowpiecer: I've eaten babies!!
And you know what? I'd still like to have a beer with him. He's Chris Evans for crying out loud!
The Host is truly one of the best monster movies of the 21st century. It's been heard in discussions that include King Kong and Godzilla and rightfully so. It's a perfect mix of horror, suspense, and good moments of comedy. The monster itself is a clever mix of fish and amphibian and just looks iconic. It's great setup with this family being screwups in the beginning but they all come together and succeed in the end but at a price
I’m a huge kaiju fan and most would agree with you, including myself.
It makes my top 5 of all time easily. It’s not often a kaiju flick comes along with such substance.
I just want to express gratitude to Chelsea for all of the research she puts into these podcasts, especially this one. I didn't expect to come out of this video learning so much about the Korean War, but I did and I'm glad for it.
Lmao was not expecting such a heavy history lesson this morning. Thanks Chelsea!
I find it oddly cute that they're both growing out their hair
They're a very hot couple. Chelsea looks so pretty with longer hair
Nicky James ewww man
Ikr it’s so adorable I love them as a couple so much
Ok Ok one sec llllkllll2l2ll2lll22ll222l2l2
Honestly, a podcast where Chelsea teaches history would be incredible. You guys make everything interesting!
Hey James!
I was watching "The Mask" and noticed that in the part where The Mask & Tina were dancing, the villain finds out that The Mask was responsible for messing up his Heist and utters, "You're Deadmeat".
Use it! Lol
"It's a Spore creation" - I actually did create Steve in Spore once, lol. And yes, it's name, given to it by the makers, is Steve (like the shark in Jaws is named Bruce), because they thought it looked like Steve Buscemi.
On a side note, the killer kid from the 1985 film “Phenomena” is named in the film, but Dario Argento confirms that his name is Patau, named after the syndrome.
The symbolism of yellow is interesting, it's been a while since I've seen this one, but I think the sign that the American Sgt and the son use to attack the monster is partially yellow. I feel like yellow could symbolize humanity's attempts to combat the monsters they create and often find to be insufficient to the task. The hazmat suits, the "agent yellow" are kind of like humanity's science and technology that can't close Pandora's box.
That history lesson at the beginning was a pretty entertaining listen. I only had baseline knowledge on it so that was pretty informative
You should be on hot ones James and Chelsea Forget Sean Evans to talk about his favourite horror movie
Yes! This needs to happen now
1000% godly idea❗ 💡
Spelled favorite wrong Lol
@@ScopezzFr It can be spelled in different ways. Favourite is the British spelling term, as favorite is the American term.
Miranda Muse I didn’t know that
Australia is so proud of our first winter Olympic gold medalist. He won in this event even though he was coming last because all the other competitors fell down
Fun fact: there's a statue of Gwoemul in Seoul! Somewhere on the Han riverbank.
Right! I took a photo with myself next to it a while ago, it’s pretty big!
Dead meat podcast: history class
Fun fact American involvement in the Korean war wasn't just the US showing up and saying hey we're gonna make you a free country, it was the first peacekeeping action of the UN, very important to solidifying the body's legitimacy to the world. Sticking around isnt the best decision we've ever made tho for sure, and foreign involvement in a war is a pretty loaded topic that I dont feel like going into all that on a youtube comment :)
US involvement in Korea was also to propose a split of Korea on the 38th parallel, supporting the South Korean strongman, declaring the People's Republic of Korea interim government and its People's Committees as illegal and aiding South Korean government in hunting down and killing hundreds of thousands of leftists prior to the Korean War.
the US was there bc they were paranoid about the soviets. they needed an excuse to stash soldiers and firepower on the pacific west. it's always the same with proxy wars. no real peacekeeping looks like forcing a country apart, sowing instability and starvation, and secretly transporting nukes that in turn fueled NK's obsession with nukes.
If Chelsea ever needs to find a new job, I would listen to her lecture about history all the damn time. Incredibly captivating and she’s such a good storyteller. Maybe she could do a Crash Course series.
I went to bed expecting to hear about a horror movie podcast and instead I woke up knowing everything about Korea and America’s relationship thanks Chelsea ! 😂
I would love to know what both James and Chelsea think of Train to Busan
And Seoul Station!
Yes! They haven't covered it yet, right?
@@Noid1220 no they haven't but I think it would be an interesting episode!
i personally dont like it, but that is my opinion
@@root-beer that's completely okay! Have you looked at the trailer for the sequel? What do you think about that?
There’s actually a movie about the assassination called The President’s Last Bang.
The man standing next is also the movie about the assassination that released this year. Its pretty good.
Can we get like..a separate channel or something where James and Chelsea just talk about history? Idk why, but god damn the beginning of this was super fun to listen too.
The lobotomizing wasnt so effective because his dad explained earlier in the film how he didn't get enough oxygen to his brain, which is why hes kinda slow and dim witted. It could be a plot point as to why hes kind of normal after the procedure.
I thought the same thing, the dad was explaining to the drunk brother in that one scene while the blonde brother was sleeping right. So I assumed that scene was very pivotal to the lobotomy scene.
@@RazziPermana it also makes us wanna root for him to get his daughter back
Thank you! I watched this movie close to it’s original release and never quite got that scene.
It makes complete sense now, they happened to remove the part of his brain that was causing him issues. How did I miss that?!
Enjoyed the Korea info to explain certain themes in the movie. The most I knew about the Korean War was what they showed in the movie and tv show M.A.S.H. and technically the tv show's show runners admitted that they based it more on the Vietnam War than the Korean War at the time. I can remember the buzz around this movie when it was released and the effects were okay but it was really the family drama that got me into it. The office scene is so messed up, but I know people who would defend his actions sadly. It is interesting to see what creature features actually have some sort of social commentary in them and which ones are just there to be scary. As always a great podcast. B~)
the name of the monster is pronounced "gweh-mool" and it literally just means monster
As a US Army Vet who served in the ROK in the 1990s, thank you for talking a bit about the history, a history frought atrocities by the US, protests against US forces in the ROK were weekly events that happened at different bases from Pusan in the south to Camp Casey (where I served). I had the pleasure of making friends with many of KATUSAs (Korean Augmentation To the United States Army) that I worked alongside with in our electronics repair shop. From the time I had served there, many, if not most Koreans not only wanted the US gone but only wanted their home whole. I know those numbers have only grown. We don't know what this is like - to be separated from family by the ideologies of foreigners that have kept them apart for over half a century. Korea is a beautiful country, that we've held back to satisfy our archaic desires of being the last to the party that was colonialism, and because we, as a nation, can never seem to just let go of the past and move forward, an entire culture remains burdened by a shadow all but forgotten by those who cast it. Some of my best memories from the US Army remain forever linked to that wonderful country, and I've never been so glad and fortunate to meet its people and culture.
Started off a class about art in politics and collective political movements in East Asia by discussing this movie. You did a really great job giving context, especially as Bong Joon-Ho has such an interesting relationship with Hollywood’s influence in his work which kind of seems like a microcosm of the larger fraught relationship between the US and South Korea. Memories of Murder is really influenced by the dysfunction of the 80s South Korean government and daily life and America’s influence in it, for example. Thanks for doing such a great job covering this and the social/historical influences.
“Gwoe-mul” is the Korean name for the movie! It means monster
I just wish Chelsea
was my history teacher, she just sounds so interested and interesting the opposite of my current teacher.
I love when Chelsea goes ham with research! Yas research! Yas Bong Joon-ho!
I learned more about korean history than I did in all of high school. Thank you Chelsea!
Honestly I would be 100% onboard for a podcast where James and Chelsea are just telling us about history for a little while. I love it.
An interesting point in parasite relating to food symbolism is the steak the house keeper adds to the instant noodles shows how much excess money they have
Do Snakes on a plane (2006) and Crawl (2019)
Somebody get these mother ducking crocodiles of this mother ducking plane
They did snakes on a plane. If they actually didn't it was one of the "what's your favorite scary movie" ones.
@@Motivatededits0 This the 17th time in 2 days I have seen this. They were alligators. Not crocodiles.
@@lt187 I know but this was before that episode came out. Now please help me by trying to convince them to do Crawl (2019)
Lynette Build a giant snowman I know lol
I love these research heavy episodes! I'm not American and I only vaguely know about American-Korean relations! This podcast makes me so happy! Thank you so much Chelsea and James!
Little did I know that I would get a history lesson from the awesome Chelsea.
I came by just to say I’m really happy this is a thing that is happening, but I haven’t watched the Host all the way through yet, so I’m going to go do that first.
Idk why but this comment is so precious lol
That's some heavy history context. Love that, always love it when the background of a movie is explained.
I could listen to Chelsea talk about history for hours and hours. I love being informed about the context of a film!
i've been meaning to do a deeper dive into Bong Joon-ho's filmography for a while now, so thanks for giving me an excuse to finally watch this! it ruled so hard, and i was definitely also struck with the similarities to Parasite as i was watching
also one of the few useful things i've ever learned from imdb trivia, since you guys were wondering what the monster was called: Bong Joon-ho and the designer of the creature nicknamed it Steve Buscemi because they based its behavior on his performance in Fargo
I am 1 quarter korean because my grandfather was stationed in south korea after vietnam, he married a korean woman and she immagrated to the us after he came back to the states
I got so into the history lesson that I 100% forgot that this was a deadmeat podcast
(Unrelated, but yall should talk about train to busan sometime 🤔)
The fist bump was a power fist but not in the way you expect. In many Korean programs and dramas you can hear the characters or members shout fighting which is actually phiting which is a form of encouragement to one another.
As a fan of kpop, kdramas, and Korean movies. I’ve learned much about Korean culture. Moreso South Korean pop culture. The north and south are still technically at war and that is why every male is required to enroll in the military.
Love these episodes where we get to learn history and context from Chelsea surrounding the film.
I love hearing you guys talk about history! if it was 50% of the entire episode i wouldn’t have even minded
I love how Lucy just walks from one to another and just falls asleep.
I know you guys probably won’t read this comment but I’m gonna say it anyway. I’ve been a fan of your channel for 2 years now and I love almost all of your content. But, as an irakien-kurdish man, I especially appreciate you guys for speaking the truth about the geopolitical history of Irak and the US.
One interesting thing to note is that although the Korean War is considered the forgotten war, one of the largest and most watched Television shows of all time was actually about the Korean War. M*A*S*H takes place in South Korea during the war, which many people seem to forget.
I love how Chelsea's hair looks great in this vid and James is looking my cousin who started drinking hard liquor at 14 and who actually liked Larry the Cable Guy.
One movie you two should definitely watch is Flu (2013). It's a Korean horror/disaster movie about a virus. There's a lot of parallels between that and real life. There are some really hard to watch and kind of horrifying scenes in that.
Also, pay attention to where Americans show up and what positions they take in the film.
Also, a good psychological horror is A Tale of Two Sisters, another Korean movie.
I really do love these podcasts - the amount of research and information you manage to cram in to make it educational with all the fun facts is just so refreshing to see. Love this channel both 😊 x
I could listen to Chelsea giving history lessons til I die, she's so great at it
A taxi driver is a great movie about the Gwangju uprising
I’m super excited to see how their new setup in their new house will look like!!! I hope we can get a better view of all the things behind them. I love their stuff and finding all the different things from the different movies
I remember we watched this movie in year 9 for a Korean class, we laughed through the entire movie and we enjoyed it a lot
What an interesting and complete information Chelsea! Thanks for giving us all that
Who knew I needed a history lesson in the beginning of the podcast. Honestly learned more than in world history 😂
I kid you not, I was looking for a movie to watch yesterday and I always check the IMDB birthdays for inspiration. It was the actress’s birthday that plays Hyun-seo so this movie was my immediate go to.
Chelsea - your research into history gives such an amazing context to these podcasts. Thank you so much!
There's quite the humorous punchline in the film where after the homeless pair explain "The right of the hungry" the monster almost immediately swoops down to devour them, exercising it's own 'Seo-ri'.
Omg!!! You have no idea how stoked I am seeing ya'll go over this movie. It's amazing and I'm so disappointed that most people I meat don't know about it!
Your podcast keeps me sane while working ten hour shifts at work
Spent 2020 Easter Sunday watching this movie. Best Easter I’ve had in years
I've seen 'The Host' before, but now I am very determined to rewatch it knowing something of US involvement in South Korea. Thanks for the history lesson.
I watched this movie back in the late 2000's with no subtitles or dubs. Still really enjoyed it.
Dear James and Cheslea, never stop trying to pronounce names. I really respect that you try, and you put effort in finding out how. I hate it when people say "i'm not gonna even try" or "let's give this person a random nickname that I can pronounce instead". Small thing but mad respect.
Love,
A POC/Asian
Train to Busan next????? :)))
I could listen to Chelsea talk about history all day. 😍
i love waking up in the morning to a new dead meat podcast
The Man Standing Next is based on President Park Chung Hee's assassination that Chelsea mentioned. It just came out a few months ago. Great cast and a great movie.
Ever since I learned Parasite won best picture at the Oscars and subsequently saw it, I've been on a Bong Joon Ho kick. 😁😁😁
This reminds me of a time in school when we were watching a movie and someone made a dumb decision and ended up dying and I started laughing. People looked at me weird during that.
"It's a SPORE creation"
And the 23 of us who played it are like "I get that reference!"
When I was a kid, I saw my dad watching this on TV. I was always curious about what movie it was. And now I’ve discovered it.
New episodes of the podcast are the best part of my week
Why does James now look like that one guy all the neighborhood parents told their children to stay away from.
Speaking of lobotomy, You guys discussing Session 9 would be a great podcast episode.
James and Chelsea are Sabrina Spellman and Harvey Kinkle 15 years from now.
I love it.
FIlm talk actually begins 22:00.
You should cover Urban Legends. I feel it would make an awesome podcast as well as great movies to cover in the Kill Count.
I saw this movie when I was maybe 6, and I only remembered the movie and it's title maybe a year ago. Great movie, glad to see a podcast for it, guys!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Chelsea nailing the pronunciation of Saoirse Ronan?
In response to your question about Korea, the official name of the south is still the Republic of Korea. Neither one of them really acknowledges the sovereignty of the other
Chelsea giving me a history lesson and analyzing a film...heck yeah!!!😌
I once played a game with a Korean, he was toxic(assuming from how his talking was sounding) and i told him I dont speak rice fields, he responded by saying he doesnt speak obesity, thats the only english he ever said. hes my buddy now
@@renzou3276 does he realize that English comes from England or maybe even Germany, and not America?
@@defaulter264 dont know I dont speak rice
This topic makes me want a horror history hour with James and Chelsea
I'm impressed that one-third of the podcast is about the history of post-war korea until now just to explain the intro of the movie, which is the motive of the whole disaster. Just to add to the discussion, chemical pollution from the army base in korea may not actually create '괴물'(monster) in reality, but it is still an issue to be dealt with since some bases are now deactivated and are planned to be open to the public. Great podcast btw :)
The brief but comprehensive history lesson is much appreciated, thank you!
Them moving and having a new set for the podcast and kill counts is almost like a new season of dead meat
Listened to this at work earlier. Loved how informative the opening was in relation to Korea’s history.
I totally forgot this horror movie existed, I saw this like when I was like 10 or 11
I think a good quote to link the guy who tried to sell out nam-ill to is one from jurassic Park 3
Just after escaping spino yet again Alan confronts Billy about the stolen raptor eggs
Billy tries to say he had the best of intentions to which Alan replies
"Some of the worst things imaginable were done with the best of intentions"
As a whole you can go so deep with that quote and link it to many evils in the world
Another thing is how the good people in this movie are blatantly ignored
A good example besides the family would be the doctor who tries to tell the cop that they should try to understand gang-du and that he's not a bad man
'Underwater' surprised the hell out of me. Very much worth a watch a hopefully a podcast.