*27R Departures* - some from the morning session: 33:12 Qatar QR6 B77W to Doha 34:26 JetBlue Airways B61621 A21N to Boston 42:16 Air Canada AC850 B789 from Calgary 57:51 Qatar QR10 A388 to Doha - with DL30 B764 from Atlanta landing on 27L (BCRF Livery) 1:01:08 British Airways BA554 A319 to Rome - BEA Retro Livery 1:03:04 Air India AI162 A359 to Delhi 1:06:18 Air Canada AC869 B38M to Halifax 1:08:16 Finnair AY1340 A321 to Helsinki - with VS188 A333 from Bridgetown landing on 27L to Veronica 1:10:40 Delta Air Lines DL59 A332 to Boston [N853NW] 1:13:04 Qatar Amiri Flight QAF3 A330 [A7-HHM] 1:19:02 Loganair LM652 E145 to Londonderry 1:20:29 ASG Business Aviation ESW84 Gulfstream G550 to Baku [4K-080] 1:30:59 KLM KL1002 A21N to Amsterdam 1:32:44 Emirates EK8 A388 to Dubai 1:39:34 Singapore Airlines SQ305 B77W to Singapore 1:49:56 American Airlines AA51 B772 to Dallas 1:57:23 British Airways BA207 A388 to Miami 2:01:46 British Airways BA139 A35K to Mumbai 2:30:25 Flexjet FJ052R Embraer Legacy 500 to Paris LBG [9H-RFX] 3:14:10 LOT LO282 B38M to Warsaw 3:16:13 Vietnam Airlines VN50 B789 to Ho Chi Minh City 3:17:08 Emirates EK1 A388 from Dubai - Destination Dubai Livery - landing on 27L 3:31:08 Singapore Airlines SQ317 A388 to Singapore 3:36:50 British Airways BA1390 A319 to Manchester [G-EUPW] Cheers to the FF365 crew, mods and chatters
[Important note: This Heathrow-based comment contains nothing relating to recent overseas news events.] What a gorgeous thumbnail FF365 chose for this video. Look at that monster, looming out of the cloud. Fantastic shot, guys - get it copyrighted and in an FF365 calendar asap!🙂 Lots of 'Likes' and HUGE viewing figures today thanks to yesterday's fog frenzy; I even saw that the BBC had borrowed some FF365 images to illustrate the Heathrow disruption. Here's a cheeky thought: will FF365 become the news media's first choice for LHR footage? Broadcast audio engineers and sound mixers LOVE a 'silent' video clip; with no commentary, editors know that they won't have to mute or remove a second voice in order to give their on-the-spot reporter a blank canvas to work with. UA-cam's most famous aviation live-streamer got his big break a few years ago with his exciting LHR storm footage; let's hope that Robo-Cam's easy accessibility has him heading in the same direction. Um... I had another thought. A whole one. All by myself. About nervous flyers. Peeps might find flying a bit less of a mystery (and we're often scared of the unknown) if they were more familiar with the mechanics of what's involved. Video games and (serious) flight simulators are a clean, modern, efficient, not-too-expensive way to become familiar with flying, but they're not really 'hands on'. Someone else is managing your involvement and environment. It's super-realistic if you want to know the exact procedure for starting up a 787 from cold, and all the controls and switches are exactly where they're supposed to be, but the actual flying is handled by the same systems which handle the full-sized aircraft. That's good, but also not so good, because it doesn't explain anything. However immersive, it's still a passive experience. It just does stuff; the virtual plane does as it's told. So... It might be helpful if nervous flyers (or maybe their kids) got into aeromodelling. Yes, yes, I know it's nerdy and old-fashioned and has got nothing to do with 'cool' drones and whizzy camera-quads and FPV videos, but bear with me a moment. A good way to conquer a fear of flying is to fly without risk. I got into aeromodelling when I was 9 or 10 (started with kites when a bit younger), and started building balsa and tissue gliders and planes. The thing about actually making aircraft yourself - and not just flying virtual ones on a screen - is that the whole business of aerodynamics is right there for you to explore. I'm not talking about ready-made scale radio-controlled models of Spitfires or Mustangs or modern fly-by-wire jet fighters which come ready to go from China and have gyroscopic self-stabilising flight control boards which let them (literally) fly themselves. They won't teach you much about flying because you're not involved enough; I mean planes made from plans you've drawn yourself on big sheets of paper. If you take the normal route through the hobby you start with free-flight [uncontrolled] gliders, then rubber-powered propeller-driven planes, then aircraft with internal combustion engines (or, more likely, electric motors and lithium-polymer batteries these days) and finally the more advanced radio-controlled stuff. There's no limit to what you can fiddle around with. And it's good because it's all real. From tiny balsa and tissue planes you can work your way up to building all sorts of home-brewed experimental aircraft - single engine, twins, biplanes, deltas, gyrocopters - I ended up making epoxy-carbon all-composite RC gliders with a 4 metre wingspan and all the flight controls of a full-sized sailplane, including variable wing camber and water ballast. All the time you're finding out about what works, what doesn't, about weather conditions, how planes actually fly, how to trim for stable flight, wing-sweep, dihedral/anhedral, wing loading, stall behaviour, engine-out asymmetric thrust, the design of wings and aerofoils, slats, flaps, spoilers, airbrakes, and all sorts of things that help to take the mystery out of the "WTF?" moment when you see 560 tons of A380 throw itself into the sky as if it hadn't got Mother Nature's memo about gravity. It's true that, if you spend your time with a (good) flight simulator you'll be able to explore a real virtual plane's flight control systems in amazing depth; move them and the systems will blend rudder and ailerons and elevator automatically just like the real thing to give those perfectly balanced turns which don't have passengers spilling their drinks or reaching for the sick-bags. But with an RC plane you can (if you want to) keep everything separate and mess about with raw flying and find out for yourself exactly how to do it badly. It's fun because nobody complains. You can juggle thrust and drag, lift and weight, and experiment with landing techniques without having to arrange flying lessons. Things like cross-wind landing, sideslip approaches, crabbing and ground-effect translate directly down from full-sized aviation to models - the mass/inertia involved is different but it's the same air and physics and you have to make the same control inputs - so you can see for yourself how, say, wingtip washout affects stall performance or how a flare that's too early or too late affects landing. When the 'QueasyJet' bringing you back from holiday suddenly lurches before touching down, you'll not be worried; you'll be picturing the ground-effect, the air currents, the flaps, slats and spoilers doing their thing, the control surface deflections, and anticipate the pilot's inputs on the yoke as you finally touch down. No biggie. No sweat. Knowledge is power, and it's good to know what's going on. You understand the perils of pilot-induced oscillations because you explored the phenomenon yourself in real life with the cheapo RC plane you built from the cardboard box your TV set arrived in. So a last-second go-around isn't a mysterious, frightening experience, it's just really interesting. The nicest part of aeromodelling, especially at the RC level, is that you can make major mistakes without major consequences or major expense. 40 years ago radio control gear was expensive but it's now ridiculously cheap, so you can do almost anything - and learn a lot - for very little cash. A decent flight simulator is arguably better than hands-on aeromodelling because it has a 'RESET' button for when disaster strikes, but it's not REALLY better because you're still one step removed from reality. There's no jeopardy. There's no real incentive to work at a problem until you get things sorted out. Whereas, if you're test-flying an experimental model aircraft you've just spent two months building, getting it right matters. A home-designed RC model can be as weird as you like, but it will be absolutely real in the way it flies. Or doesn't, as the case may be. The thing is, once you've had to go back to the drawing board a dozen times to correct some ghastly tip-stalling behaviour or change a flap/elevator pitch problem or fix a weird aileron reversal effect, flying becomes far less mysterious. Ask any of the hugely experienced spotters on this Channel or at your favourite viewing point at your local airport and they'll all say the same thing: that plane spotting is WAY more interesting and fun when you have some idea of what's going on and why pilots and planes do what they do. It makes flying less scary, too. Try it. You'll wonder what all the fuss was about.🙂 Right. I've not been especially naughty of late, so I'll end with a shocking revelation about a tart.💃👀 No, not me, I mean the name given to Virgin Atlantic's latest plane which spotters will have tracked and seen land today, registration G-VPIE. In line with company policy the jet's name is derived from the reg: 'Cherry Bakewell'. Most Brits will know what this means, but not all of them. Because... Because to many Brits of a certain age there's no 'pie' when talking about a cherry Bakewell. To them the teatime treat is a Bakewell tart. But that's only its unofficial title, derived from a popular brand of commercially-produced cakes. In the more-or-less famous 'Mr Kipling' range of apple pies and pastries, it's a Bakewell Tart, and that's what many Brits know it as. But the townsfolk who created the sweet pastry object with a yummy munchy base and a delicious sweet gooey filling - with half a cherry on top - call their thingy a Bakewell Pie. It's not a tart, and they get mighty upset when people call it one. I've heard it called a Bakewell Pudding, too, but... we'd better not go there. Imagine if you were told that from now on you HAD to call a pizza a 'flannoli', or a sandwich a 'breadlet'. A what? "I'd like a double fried egg breadlet, please." Hmm. Would you change the habit of a lifetime? Nope. A pizza is a pizza and a sandwich is a sandwich. And, alas, a misnamed Bakewell 'tart' is never going to be a Bakewell pie. And yet, Virgin has jumped into the fray and tried to reclaim the name for the tiny town of Bakewell by calling its enormous new jet, with its G-VPIE registration, 'Cherry Bakewell'. Sir Richard Branson is deliberately drawing the focus away from Mr Kipling's Bakewell Tarts, but... But we're talking about Brits, here, Richard. Brits, Dickie-boy. You know what we're like. We're not nice. Trying to force the inhabitants of this septic👑 Sceptred Isle to comply and call a tart a pie is only going to make people angry. Grrrrr. Many of us are far too grumpy, stubborn and contrary to be told what to think - even for the best and most wholesome of reasons - so you can be pretty sure that Virgin's G-VPIE 'Cherry Bakewell' will become known henceforth as Tarty McTartFace. Tarty McTartFace? Oh, dear. How simply dreadful. But gosh, it feels good to be naughty again...
Shout out to the grounds ops crew 6:34:50 loved this shot 6:54:04 runway transition time - SQ308 taxiing to arrival gate / runway check / SV120 takeoff from 27L / assortment of ground vehicles
*27R Departures until 3pm then 27R Arrivals* - some from the afternoon session: 3:58:10 Qantas 🦘 QF10 B789 to Perth - named Snowy River 4:00:35 Thai Airways TG911 B77W to Bangkok 4:10:20 British Airways BA358 A319 to Lyon - Double Duff 4:16:50 British Airways BA285 A388 to San Francisco [G-XLEK] 4:24:00 British Airways BA208 A388 from Miami - landing on 27L 4:24:35 Delta Air Lines DL17 A332 to Detroit 4:33:26 SriLankan Airlines UL506 A333 to Colombo 4:43:34 British Airways BA284 A388 from San Francisco - landing on 27L 5:11:40 British Airways BA107 A388 to Miami 5:25:22 Icelandair FI451 B38M to Reykjavik 5:40:10 British Airways BA448 A20N to Tenerife - BA Better World Liver *the Slayer* 5:59:03 Etihad EY61 A388 from Abu Dhabi - landing on 27L 🤩 6:13:46 Emirates EK2 A388 to Dubai - Destination Dubai Livery 6:32:16 Delta Air Lines DL33 B764 to Atlanta - BCRF Livery 6:45:58 Qatar QR4 A388 to Doha 7:08:54 Virgin Atlantic VS401 A339 from Dubai - named Cherry Bakewell - new plane smell 7:27:40 British Airways BA555 A319 from Rome - BEA Retro Livery Cheers to the FF365 crew, mods and chatters
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12 hours? This stream was immaculate. Thank you Flight Focus 365. It was a pleasure😊😊
*27R Departures* - some from the morning session:
33:12 Qatar QR6 B77W to Doha
34:26 JetBlue Airways B61621 A21N to Boston
42:16 Air Canada AC850 B789 from Calgary
57:51 Qatar QR10 A388 to Doha - with DL30 B764 from Atlanta landing on 27L (BCRF Livery)
1:01:08 British Airways BA554 A319 to Rome - BEA Retro Livery
1:03:04 Air India AI162 A359 to Delhi
1:06:18 Air Canada AC869 B38M to Halifax
1:08:16 Finnair AY1340 A321 to Helsinki - with VS188 A333 from Bridgetown landing on 27L to Veronica
1:10:40 Delta Air Lines DL59 A332 to Boston [N853NW]
1:13:04 Qatar Amiri Flight QAF3 A330 [A7-HHM]
1:19:02 Loganair LM652 E145 to Londonderry
1:20:29 ASG Business Aviation ESW84 Gulfstream G550 to Baku [4K-080]
1:30:59 KLM KL1002 A21N to Amsterdam
1:32:44 Emirates EK8 A388 to Dubai
1:39:34 Singapore Airlines SQ305 B77W to Singapore
1:49:56 American Airlines AA51 B772 to Dallas
1:57:23 British Airways BA207 A388 to Miami
2:01:46 British Airways BA139 A35K to Mumbai
2:30:25 Flexjet FJ052R Embraer Legacy 500 to Paris LBG [9H-RFX]
3:14:10 LOT LO282 B38M to Warsaw
3:16:13 Vietnam Airlines VN50 B789 to Ho Chi Minh City
3:17:08 Emirates EK1 A388 from Dubai - Destination Dubai Livery - landing on 27L
3:31:08 Singapore Airlines SQ317 A388 to Singapore
3:36:50 British Airways BA1390 A319 to Manchester [G-EUPW]
Cheers to the FF365 crew, mods and chatters
[Important note: This Heathrow-based comment contains nothing relating to recent overseas news events.]
What a gorgeous thumbnail FF365 chose for this video. Look at that monster, looming out of the cloud. Fantastic shot, guys - get it copyrighted and in an FF365 calendar asap!🙂
Lots of 'Likes' and HUGE viewing figures today thanks to yesterday's fog frenzy; I even saw that the BBC had borrowed some FF365 images to illustrate the Heathrow disruption. Here's a cheeky thought: will FF365 become the news media's first choice for LHR footage? Broadcast audio engineers and sound mixers LOVE a 'silent' video clip; with no commentary, editors know that they won't have to mute or remove a second voice in order to give their on-the-spot reporter a blank canvas to work with.
UA-cam's most famous aviation live-streamer got his big break a few years ago with his exciting LHR storm footage; let's hope that Robo-Cam's easy accessibility has him heading in the same direction.
Um... I had another thought. A whole one. All by myself. About nervous flyers. Peeps might find flying a bit less of a mystery (and we're often scared of the unknown) if they were more familiar with the mechanics of what's involved.
Video games and (serious) flight simulators are a clean, modern, efficient, not-too-expensive way to become familiar with flying, but they're not really 'hands on'. Someone else is managing your involvement and environment. It's super-realistic if you want to know the exact procedure for starting up a 787 from cold, and all the controls and switches are exactly where they're supposed to be, but the actual flying is handled by the same systems which handle the full-sized aircraft.
That's good, but also not so good, because it doesn't explain anything. However immersive, it's still a passive experience. It just does stuff; the virtual plane does as it's told.
So... It might be helpful if nervous flyers (or maybe their kids) got into aeromodelling. Yes, yes, I know it's nerdy and old-fashioned and has got nothing to do with 'cool' drones and whizzy camera-quads and FPV videos, but bear with me a moment.
A good way to conquer a fear of flying is to fly without risk.
I got into aeromodelling when I was 9 or 10 (started with kites when a bit younger), and started building balsa and tissue gliders and planes. The thing about actually making aircraft yourself - and not just flying virtual ones on a screen - is that the whole business of aerodynamics is right there for you to explore.
I'm not talking about ready-made scale radio-controlled models of Spitfires or Mustangs or modern fly-by-wire jet fighters which come ready to go from China and have gyroscopic self-stabilising flight control boards which let them (literally) fly themselves. They won't teach you much about flying because you're not involved enough; I mean planes made from plans you've drawn yourself on big sheets of paper.
If you take the normal route through the hobby you start with free-flight [uncontrolled] gliders, then rubber-powered propeller-driven planes, then aircraft with internal combustion engines (or, more likely, electric motors and lithium-polymer batteries these days) and finally the more advanced radio-controlled stuff. There's no limit to what you can fiddle around with. And it's good because it's all real.
From tiny balsa and tissue planes you can work your way up to building all sorts of home-brewed experimental aircraft - single engine, twins, biplanes, deltas, gyrocopters - I ended up making epoxy-carbon all-composite RC gliders with a 4 metre wingspan and all the flight controls of a full-sized sailplane, including variable wing camber and water ballast.
All the time you're finding out about what works, what doesn't, about weather conditions, how planes actually fly, how to trim for stable flight, wing-sweep, dihedral/anhedral, wing loading, stall behaviour, engine-out asymmetric thrust, the design of wings and aerofoils, slats, flaps, spoilers, airbrakes, and all sorts of things that help to take the mystery out of the "WTF?" moment when you see 560 tons of A380 throw itself into the sky as if it hadn't got Mother Nature's memo about gravity.
It's true that, if you spend your time with a (good) flight simulator you'll be able to explore a real virtual plane's flight control systems in amazing depth; move them and the systems will blend rudder and ailerons and elevator automatically just like the real thing to give those perfectly balanced turns which don't have passengers spilling their drinks or reaching for the sick-bags.
But with an RC plane you can (if you want to) keep everything separate and mess about with raw flying and find out for yourself exactly how to do it badly. It's fun because nobody complains.
You can juggle thrust and drag, lift and weight, and experiment with landing techniques without having to arrange flying lessons. Things like cross-wind landing, sideslip approaches, crabbing and ground-effect translate directly down from full-sized aviation to models - the mass/inertia involved is different but it's the same air and physics and you have to make the same control inputs - so you can see for yourself how, say, wingtip washout affects stall performance or how a flare that's too early or too late affects landing.
When the 'QueasyJet' bringing you back from holiday suddenly lurches before touching down, you'll not be worried; you'll be picturing the ground-effect, the air currents, the flaps, slats and spoilers doing their thing, the control surface deflections, and anticipate the pilot's inputs on the yoke as you finally touch down.
No biggie. No sweat. Knowledge is power, and it's good to know what's going on. You understand the perils of pilot-induced oscillations because you explored the phenomenon yourself in real life with the cheapo RC plane you built from the cardboard box your TV set arrived in.
So a last-second go-around isn't a mysterious, frightening experience, it's just really interesting.
The nicest part of aeromodelling, especially at the RC level, is that you can make major mistakes without major consequences or major expense. 40 years ago radio control gear was expensive but it's now ridiculously cheap, so you can do almost anything - and learn a lot - for very little cash.
A decent flight simulator is arguably better than hands-on aeromodelling because it has a 'RESET' button for when disaster strikes, but it's not REALLY better because you're still one step removed from reality. There's no jeopardy. There's no real incentive to work at a problem until you get things sorted out.
Whereas, if you're test-flying an experimental model aircraft you've just spent two months building, getting it right matters.
A home-designed RC model can be as weird as you like, but it will be absolutely real in the way it flies. Or doesn't, as the case may be. The thing is, once you've had to go back to the drawing board a dozen times to correct some ghastly tip-stalling behaviour or change a flap/elevator pitch problem or fix a weird aileron reversal effect, flying becomes far less mysterious.
Ask any of the hugely experienced spotters on this Channel or at your favourite viewing point at your local airport and they'll all say the same thing: that plane spotting is WAY more interesting and fun when you have some idea of what's going on and why pilots and planes do what they do.
It makes flying less scary, too. Try it. You'll wonder what all the fuss was about.🙂
Right. I've not been especially naughty of late, so I'll end with a shocking revelation about a tart.💃👀 No, not me, I mean the name given to Virgin Atlantic's latest plane which spotters will have tracked and seen land today, registration G-VPIE. In line with company policy the jet's name is derived from the reg: 'Cherry Bakewell'. Most Brits will know what this means, but not all of them. Because...
Because to many Brits of a certain age there's no 'pie' when talking about a cherry Bakewell. To them the teatime treat is a Bakewell tart. But that's only its unofficial title, derived from a popular brand of commercially-produced cakes. In the more-or-less famous 'Mr Kipling' range of apple pies and pastries, it's a Bakewell Tart, and that's what many Brits know it as.
But the townsfolk who created the sweet pastry object with a yummy munchy base and a delicious sweet gooey filling - with half a cherry on top - call their thingy a Bakewell Pie. It's not a tart, and they get mighty upset when people call it one.
I've heard it called a Bakewell Pudding, too, but... we'd better not go there.
Imagine if you were told that from now on you HAD to call a pizza a 'flannoli', or a sandwich a 'breadlet'.
A what?
"I'd like a double fried egg breadlet, please."
Hmm. Would you change the habit of a lifetime? Nope. A pizza is a pizza and a sandwich is a sandwich. And, alas, a misnamed Bakewell 'tart' is never going to be a Bakewell pie.
And yet, Virgin has jumped into the fray and tried to reclaim the name for the tiny town of Bakewell by calling its enormous new jet, with its G-VPIE registration, 'Cherry Bakewell'.
Sir Richard Branson is deliberately drawing the focus away from Mr Kipling's Bakewell Tarts, but...
But we're talking about Brits, here, Richard. Brits, Dickie-boy. You know what we're like. We're not nice. Trying to force the inhabitants of this septic👑 Sceptred Isle to comply and call a tart a pie is only going to make people angry.
Grrrrr.
Many of us are far too grumpy, stubborn and contrary to be told what to think - even for the best and most wholesome of reasons - so you can be pretty sure that Virgin's G-VPIE 'Cherry Bakewell' will become known henceforth as Tarty McTartFace.
Tarty McTartFace? Oh, dear. How simply dreadful.
But gosh, it feels good to be naughty again...
bye good night everyone 😴
Shout out to the grounds ops crew
6:34:50 loved this shot
6:54:04 runway transition time - SQ308 taxiing to arrival gate / runway check / SV120 takeoff from 27L / assortment of ground vehicles
*27R Departures until 3pm then 27R Arrivals* - some from the afternoon session:
3:58:10 Qantas 🦘 QF10 B789 to Perth - named Snowy River
4:00:35 Thai Airways TG911 B77W to Bangkok
4:10:20 British Airways BA358 A319 to Lyon - Double Duff
4:16:50 British Airways BA285 A388 to San Francisco [G-XLEK]
4:24:00 British Airways BA208 A388 from Miami - landing on 27L
4:24:35 Delta Air Lines DL17 A332 to Detroit
4:33:26 SriLankan Airlines UL506 A333 to Colombo
4:43:34 British Airways BA284 A388 from San Francisco - landing on 27L
5:11:40 British Airways BA107 A388 to Miami
5:25:22 Icelandair FI451 B38M to Reykjavik
5:40:10 British Airways BA448 A20N to Tenerife - BA Better World Liver *the Slayer*
5:59:03 Etihad EY61 A388 from Abu Dhabi - landing on 27L 🤩
6:13:46 Emirates EK2 A388 to Dubai - Destination Dubai Livery
6:32:16 Delta Air Lines DL33 B764 to Atlanta - BCRF Livery
6:45:58 Qatar QR4 A388 to Doha
7:08:54 Virgin Atlantic VS401 A339 from Dubai - named Cherry Bakewell - new plane smell
7:27:40 British Airways BA555 A319 from Rome - BEA Retro Livery
Cheers to the FF365 crew, mods and chatters
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