What Qualities Does a Good NHL Owner Need to Have?

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • It is a topic of conversation often, one on who the good or bad owners are. I figured why not discuss the matter?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 174

  • @gohabs8918
    @gohabs8918 Рік тому +128

    Don’t be Harold Ballard. That’s the bar, and it’s super low

    • @calebkent6706
      @calebkent6706 Рік тому

      Exactly hes the reason the leafs havent won anything during his tenure

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue Рік тому +9

      Urinating Tree be like

    • @gohabs8918
      @gohabs8918 Рік тому +3

      @@jonah.donohue haha exactly “burn in hell”

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Рік тому +1

      nah. the owners that yank teams out of cities are worse. like art modell

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga Рік тому

      ​@Q-N-A HOLD MY BEER!-James Dolan

  • @flarrfan
    @flarrfan Рік тому +40

    I don't know about all sports, but Tampa's Jeff Vinik has to be near the top of NHL owners. He bought the team at a low point, installed Yzerman and let him do his thing. Four finals and two cups later...

  • @Drainbamege
    @Drainbamege Рік тому +89

    Jeff Vinik is the pinacle of great ownership. Since he's owned the Bolts they've been on the up and up. What he has done for the team, the business, and community are unreal. He's helped devlop tons of Tampa, he's given the team and leadership the tools to succeed, he's grown the fanbase down here substantially.

    • @jfayiii
      @jfayiii Рік тому +14

      Came here to say the same. Made sure to tell him during one of the parades. The man likes making money, no doubt. He enjoys being respected as well.
      More than once I’ve said out loud that I hope he buys the Rays. He’ll make it work if he does.

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga Рік тому +2

      If people WENT to the Trop to see the Rays he would have

    • @vlad2838
      @vlad2838 Рік тому +10

      Vinik makes up for a string of dreadful Bolts owners, starting with a Japanese syndicate, Arthur Williams, and the disastrous duo of Koules/Barrie.

    • @MadMike1
      @MadMike1 Рік тому

      Mike Ilitch is another one. He is sadly missed in Detroit.

  • @abyssshriek7631
    @abyssshriek7631 Рік тому +65

    Steps to be a good owner:
    1. Know the game and have a clear vision for a team
    2. Hire a guy who shares that same view
    3. Stay out of their way

  • @bdonaghu
    @bdonaghu Рік тому +28

    Terry Pegula was very controlling in the Sabres operations when Tim Murray and Botterill were the GM, and we all saw how those rebuilds went... Pegula definitely seems to have backed off on his control and has let Kevyn Adams take the reigns, and it seems to be paying off. It's nice to have an owner that is passionate about the team, but also has the trust in his hired management to get the job done without being too controlling.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Рік тому +8

      i thought pegula was doing a great job with the bills but overboard with the sabres. mostly because he got a good staff running the bills before the sabres

    • @kenduffy5397
      @kenduffy5397 Рік тому +3

      Islanders fans are FINALLY fortunate. We were the most unstable team in the entire league, as you know. We finally have 2 owners with deep pockets who care about the team. They have literally turned the NY Islanders around 180 degrees! I was watching the Buffalo GM (I think it was the GM) taking questions from the reporters and I have to say I’m very excited for Buffalo to be good next season! I want every team other than the Rags to do well in the NHL. (If the Rags folded tomorrow? Id be jumping for joy 🤩) Anyways, it seems like Buffalo has finally got it right & I can’t wait to see them in the playoffs! Maybe they’ll play us? It would be awesome!

    • @kenduffy5397
      @kenduffy5397 Рік тому +1

      It was the GM Adams I think his last name is? I’m watching his interview again because I didn’t get a chance to finish it yesterday. Really solid dude!

    • @jeremytaft8247
      @jeremytaft8247 Рік тому

      @@kenduffy5397 Yep that’s our GM. Is it the interview where he kinda politely tells the one asshat reporter to go fuck himself? I love that one 😂

    • @jeremytaft8247
      @jeremytaft8247 Рік тому +3

      I think Pegula has actually learned from his mistakes. Which is really all you can ask for.

  • @jonlaw16
    @jonlaw16 Рік тому +10

    I think you can see a lot about an owner based on the average attendance. Karmanos was not a good owner for the Hurricanes because he was clearly letting the franchise die. The team was below average for year after year and the attendance just kept dropping and he didn't change a single thing.
    Dundon came in as partial owner initially and immediately he turned that middeling culture around and expressed a clear desire to distance the team from what was previously accepted. Attendance was immediately improved as well.

  • @darthvader3742
    @darthvader3742 Рік тому +32

    Don't be like Aquilini. Don't be meddlesome and allow people to do their jobs without interference.

    • @atomic_hok
      @atomic_hok Рік тому

      Apparently his wife does a lot of the meddling. Idk if that's true or not but it's what I've heard from people who would potentially have knowledge of that.

    • @darthvader3742
      @darthvader3742 Рік тому +1

      ​@AtOmIc_HoK, well, whoever it is needs to stop doing it.

    • @atomic_hok
      @atomic_hok Рік тому +2

      @@darthvader3742 agreed, the "we're gonna spend to the cap every season just so we can try and get our 2 games of playoff revenue" needs to stop

    • @viperswhip
      @viperswhip Рік тому

      I don't think it's the right approach, but to lend some context, apparently, he really wants to win a Stanley Cup before his Father dies, and since you never know when that will happen, he doesn't want to risk a rebuild.

  • @jean-philippedoyon9904
    @jean-philippedoyon9904 Рік тому +8

    Best owner is the one who see the team as a team and not just a product or his next yacht and the less involvement possible in day to day operation like trades ( except when it's a franchise player of course), contracts and player usage is better...that is the GM, president and coach job, not the owner. About the question, is it better a single owner or a group...we have a good exemple with Montréal being both. Geoff Molson is the actual owner and president of operation but it's still a group that own the team, meaning the business side is safe by the group and you have your PR guy in the actual owner.

    • @jeremytaft8247
      @jeremytaft8247 Рік тому

      The Best owner actually balances the two. It’s always easy for us to say that cause we got 0 dollars in it.😂

  • @jonasgorea3823
    @jonasgorea3823 Рік тому +26

    The best owners have to be involved but not meddlesome. They have to let the hockey men do their jobs but can’t stand for mediocre results. Also great community outreach is much appreciated as well

    • @PeterDrake
      @PeterDrake Рік тому +1

      Totally agree. Set the standard for how the organization operates. Accountability and respect should be expectations set at the ownership level and flow down through the organization. Accessibility and openness are important too, but only when appropriate. Owners shouldn't generally be front and centre during the season, just at a few times during the offseason, or when dealing with a crisis. Obviously, someone like Ryan Reynolds might be more visible, but that's acting more on community engagement than directing the team.

  • @mtbcyclist
    @mtbcyclist Рік тому +8

    Tom Dundon - Canes - Been happy with him so far. Huge upgrade over the old guard. Some have not liked some of his decisions as the runs it more like a business which for Carolina was sorely needed when he came in. I like to see his involvement, and he seems to be very down to earth. He, Tom Waddel and Rod B. have really turned the club around and make it fun to be a Caniac. Before Dundon took over it was over 9 years of pain and misery being a Caniac.

    • @viperswhip
      @viperswhip Рік тому +1

      You wouldn't be happy if you worked for him.

    • @tylersurles3630
      @tylersurles3630 Рік тому

      @@viperswhipyour employment is a choice. If you don’t like working somewhere then you can go work elsewhere. If people didn’t want to work under Tom Dundon they wouldn’t be there.

  • @wingsdiehard4135
    @wingsdiehard4135 Рік тому +7

    MR I was the best thing that happened to Detroit redwings

    • @AJBULLDAWG
      @AJBULLDAWG Рік тому +1

      Exactly He Bulit Hockeytown He Was The Best Owner in Sports And Hockeytown Misses Him Dearly Thank You Mr. I

    • @blackenedmagic888
      @blackenedmagic888 Рік тому +1

      I'm glad you mentioned him! In my eyes, he was not only one of the best owners in the history of the NHL, but one of the classiest as well. I doubt there were many owners in any sport as beloved as he was to the Red Wings' faithful - and for good reason.

  • @danmac9336
    @danmac9336 Рік тому +5

    Best owner in sports Jeff Vinnik. Why he has deep pockets, hires great people, gives them the ability to do their job and gives millions of dollars to local charities year round.

  • @kaydim5921
    @kaydim5921 Рік тому +3

    If my coworkers were fired wvery time they had doubts about if they wanted to stay or not, thr building would be empty.

  • @alaskanyeti907
    @alaskanyeti907 Рік тому +6

    Of you want to look at a horrible owner, look at the Oakland Athletics. The A's have cried and cried how Oakland is a small market, despite the fact the Bay Area is a massive media market. However the A's, despite their belly aching on how they have no budget and can't compete with the bigger markets, are one of the most valuable teams in the MLB. John Fisher refuses to spend any sort of money on the on field product, he refused to put any money down to renovate their crumbling stadium over the last 20 years, and though Oakland has dragged their feet when it came to a new stadium, they offered them what the A's wanted and more, and he turned that down.
    The A's have to be the poster child for terrible ownership.

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh Рік тому +2

      I feel for the Oakland fans for losing yet another team and at the end of all this it reflects poorly on Fisher who already decided to leave even during all the talk over the years.

  • @gordtulk
    @gordtulk Рік тому +3

    Don’t be a fanboy of a distant era spending 20 plus years trying to get the old boys together and create that feeling again.

  • @elephantrange
    @elephantrange Рік тому +3

    John Spano is a shining light!

  • @zmanjace1364
    @zmanjace1364 Рік тому +3

    Wish there were more ownership programs like green bay

  • @MadMike1
    @MadMike1 Рік тому +2

    There will never be a worse owner in the history of sports than Harold Ballard. He's been dead for over 30 years and he's still the most hated man in Toronto. He was a real life Mr. Burns.

  • @gregvogel9859
    @gregvogel9859 Рік тому +1

    I really like our owner and ownership group in Seattle. I prefer the owner to be more hands off with the hockey operations, but at the same time they are the ones that hire the GM and the front office staff, so they get the authority to hire the people they think can best execute their vision and to fire them if they don't feel they are executing their vision. It's just like a regular company as well. A good CEO very seldom is getting into the weeds in the day to day, but instead has hired the appropriate staff underneath them to manage that. Instead the owner is overseeing the bigger picture, working on the branding, and items such as securing a building or community outreach and other ways to bring in the money for the team and grow the popularity of the team.

  • @eduardo22121999
    @eduardo22121999 Рік тому +2

    I think the best case is public ownership by the people in either the city or state the team is in. It's not right for owners to be able to threaten moving a team unless they get their stadiums subsidized, and massive tax benefits, without giving up any equity for it. But if a team has to have a billionaire owner, the best option is probably someone like Steve Balmer and the Clippers who is willing to lose money on the team.

  • @benchow8851
    @benchow8851 Рік тому +1

    You want an owner who isn't a fanboy, else they get in the way of the President or GM making decisions...

  • @UserName-ts3sp
    @UserName-ts3sp Рік тому +3

    im a steelers fan, and im less than sold on art II. stability is a good thing, but complacency is a bad thing. i feel they’re going towards complacency, especially with mike tomlin still keeping his job. did you know he has only three playoff wins in the last 12 years? he also had a first ballot HOFer at qb for most of that time.

    • @troy4934
      @troy4934 Рік тому +1

      You just summed up the NFL. It's a crap shoot on who lands THAT QB. If I were a GM I'd draft 2 mid to late rounders a year until one hit. The good thing is now days it's pretty apparent with in a year if the QB has that IT factor or not.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Рік тому

      @@troy4934 there’s two ways to build a team in the nfl. build an elite team and get a decent qb (ex: niners) or get the franchise guy. i wonder how this is gonna go long term… it’s never been easier to find competent qb play but stars elevate so much

    • @troy4934
      @troy4934 Рік тому

      @@UserName-ts3sp That will get you to the playoffs and maybe even the Super Bowl. But to win the Super Bowl you need a HOF QB more or less. I can count on one hand the number of Super Bowls won by non HOF QBs.

    • @brycemcneil4404
      @brycemcneil4404 Рік тому +1

      ​​@troy4934 Fun fact:
      If you look at the last *40* Super Bowls and the 80 teams that advanced to them, there's an interesting note re: QBs. Only *13%* of the teams have been led by a QB they've gone four years or more without playing in a Super Bowl. If you up it to five years, the odds go down to 7%.
      So basically you can't go too long without knowing your QB is your guy. I actually think some QBs in recent NFL history (Philip Rivers immediately springs to mind) would have benefited from a trade just for that fresh start.

  • @difoolgc5211
    @difoolgc5211 Рік тому +3

    Gritty could have been a footnote, had Flyers' SoMe team handled the backlash/mockery on him the first days differently.

  • @richard_nj
    @richard_nj Рік тому +1

    A thing to remember is that we're judging owners based on how they're ultimately impacting their team's fortunes on the ice, but these people generally don't become owners because they want to win championships, that's not the motivation.

  • @ExoticWreckmaster
    @ExoticWreckmaster Рік тому +3

    The exact opposite qualities as Dolan

  • @lankancheetah
    @lankancheetah Рік тому

    There is another side to this; that had Shanahan kept Dubas and the team lost again, or did worse than this year, there would have been a lot of "Dubas screwed up because his heart wasnt in it/ Shanahan screwed up giving a contract to a guy who wasn't fully committed" type comments, fairly or unfairly.

  • @chrisstopher2277
    @chrisstopher2277 Рік тому

    Hopefully one day the Avs will have their own practice facility

  • @daydaviddunn
    @daydaviddunn Рік тому

    In the cap era
    I would say good people/social skills

  • @yoholmes273
    @yoholmes273 Рік тому

    Dr. John McMullen. WWII vet, USS Indianapolis survivor, & NJs orginal owner is the sole reason NJ has the NJ Devil's...and he is also the reason NJ never moved away.
    Will always love & respect that man.
    The new owners Harris/Blitzer are tremendous in NJ as well.
    Speaking of world class terrible ownership...NJs ownership just bought out
    Dan "the worst" Synder
    of the NFLs Washington Commanders (formerly Redskins & The Football Team).
    DC goes from the worst to a first class ownership group.
    Cant wait to see the turn around in a couple of years in the nation's capital. What an enormous upgrade.

  • @terskatti4994
    @terskatti4994 Рік тому +4

    Tom Dundon is the best owner in the NHL

  • @gordonfan291
    @gordonfan291 Рік тому +3

    I saw the controlling? point and immediately had my mind go to baseball with my beloved Halos and Arte Moreno who based on reports has been massively controlling in what happens with the team going down to even overruling his GM on who the Angels sign at times

    • @tiffanynaidoo2003
      @tiffanynaidoo2003 Рік тому

      And that's why Jerry Dipoto got a bad name. Moreno was the one who forced that Josh Hamilton deal to happen and Dipoto got blamed for it. Then, Moreno sides with Mike Scioscia during that constant feud. Just hire someone and let them run the team, or else do it yourself. He has the best ballplayer of all time for his entire career (Mike Trout) and still they haven't won a playoff game.

    • @gordonfan291
      @gordonfan291 Рік тому

      and now we have 2 of the best in baseball and we cant even get over .500 lol got people outside of the fandom wanting to see Trout and Ohtani in the Playoffs while Im just sitting here hoping, praying, and cheering for 82-80 because it would be at least something

  • @brycemcneil4404
    @brycemcneil4404 Рік тому

    To me, it's a Venn diagram: there's good owners and there's a good situation to pursue ownership. Where the two meet is when you're truly in the sweet spot.

  • @oceanshrugs9235
    @oceanshrugs9235 Рік тому +1

    "How rich are you?" *Memories of John Spano intensifies*

  • @matthewryan9323
    @matthewryan9323 Рік тому

    I think that long-term, above-average or better success reflects well on an owner, no matter their control style. If they like to be hands-on, and it delivers well for a few years, then everything goes to hell for the next 5 seasons or whatever, then they got lucky, but are too controlling. If they're hands-OFF, and have that same couple good years followed by a long dry spell, then they're not doing enough to help the team.
    But if overall the team has more success than failures, the fans are more likely to think that the owner(s) are trying to make the right moves, and likely to give them more leeway when the team hits an inevitable downturn, especially if the organization seems to have a plan for how to turn it around.
    And while I'm not sure what makes the best owner, or who that is, I can say for sure that what will make an owner look like The Worst Owner in Sports is one who moves the team out of the region it's been in. Fair or not, that's how most of the local fanbase that was affected will see it anyway.

  • @jeremytaft8247
    @jeremytaft8247 Рік тому

    I do think he was or is the best but I do think Pegula has become a solid owner and it’s because he’s actually learned from his mistakes where some owners would just continue to be Stubborn

  • @Authorangelaguajardo
    @Authorangelaguajardo Рік тому

    ownership sets the tempo and is reflected in everyone below him.

  • @LatinxGoyslop1994
    @LatinxGoyslop1994 Рік тому

    I mean, realistically the owner of the team can do as much or as little as he wants. Some will micromanage, which i think is well within their right. Some will just sign the check and stay out of it. For good or bad its really their perogotive

  • @WillSams
    @WillSams Рік тому

    I don't know, I keep thinking that deal in Calgary will be a tougher sell than folks think..

  • @georgenelson8284
    @georgenelson8284 Рік тому

    Nobody was cheaper than former Blackhawks owner "Dollar" Bill Wertz

  • @darkestbarrierIV
    @darkestbarrierIV Рік тому +1

    Liking the Jersey!

  • @NCISCherno
    @NCISCherno Рік тому

    I would be terrified if a team I enjoy is run like the Steelers. "Our way" that is unbending and refuses to adapt is a great way to never put a winning product on the ice again.

  • @GenericUsername23
    @GenericUsername23 Рік тому

    As a Bears fan I hate to admit the Packers have the best ownership situation

  • @maxpowr90
    @maxpowr90 Рік тому

    James Dolan remembering he also owns the Rangers will torpedo that franchise lol.

  • @Aarron656
    @Aarron656 Рік тому

    unrelated to hockey but related to this video. Is Mark Cuban a good owner? I know he's a great guy with deep pockets but I swear I've heard of him getting in the way of his own GM to do things that he thinks is right and not letting the GM do his job

  • @ShannonFerguson
    @ShannonFerguson Рік тому

    Shannon, how do keep your hats clean?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 Рік тому

    promotes the sport, develops the league, gives franchise a good chance to win

  • @YesNo-qr4id
    @YesNo-qr4id Рік тому

    It's honestly funny considering past ownership, but I think the Islanders ownership is quite good at the moment. I've run into Jon Ledecky at UBS and the man is a riot; a little quiet at points but that might just be old man lou.

  • @jeffzrockhistoryresource101
    @jeffzrockhistoryresource101 Рік тому +1

    I would say look who has had the most sucess over a long period of time. The Hurricanes have been competitive since they moved from Hartford. The same for the Dallas Stars since the move from Minnesota. Both teams are seen as stable and they keep their good players. You are always going to have the rich kooks like Harold Ballard or Charlie Finley, that just comes with successful businessmen who think the entire world revolves around them.

  • @ShannonFerguson
    @ShannonFerguson Рік тому

    I wonder if Dubas's dithering was just part of the reason for his firing.

  • @JustMikeDotTv
    @JustMikeDotTv Рік тому

    Aside from the whole realignment... And if Toronto and Buffalo are okay with it, i wonder if a different person tries to get a team in Hamilton would the NHL still be against it.

    • @ravensshadow2179
      @ravensshadow2179 Рік тому

      I don't think Buffalo would be ok with it since Buffalo sports teams draw many fans across the board. I think if the Sabers ever moved Hamilton would get a team fast.

    • @JustMikeDotTv
      @JustMikeDotTv Рік тому

      @@ravensshadow2179 I said IF Toronto and Buffalo would be okay with it. As in an alternate universe.

  • @kangarooswild
    @kangarooswild Рік тому +1

    don't be like Peter Pocklington who sold Gretzky off the dynasty Oilers for $15 million dollars haha😅

  • @kangarooswild
    @kangarooswild Рік тому +1

    don't be the Atlanta Thrashers owners haha😅

  • @ChadSimplicio
    @ChadSimplicio Рік тому

    Anschultz Entertainment(?) has been solid owners for the Kings, while the Samuelli's have been good for the Ducks.

  • @georgeblair3894
    @georgeblair3894 Рік тому +5

    Not seen, nor heard. Essentially the anti-Jerry Jones.

  • @psynque
    @psynque Рік тому

    How often have the canadian experts called Dundon a bad owner?

  • @thesuneversets
    @thesuneversets Рік тому +1

    Mario lemieux and Rooney family good. Bob Nutting bad. Fenway sports absent.

  • @Timbo-yg9zj
    @Timbo-yg9zj Рік тому

    Your point is well taken, THG. The premise is wrong of course. Don't compare yours and my warehouse jobs to being the GM of Toronto, which is the best job in the world next to the GM of Dallas cowboys. And I love how you completely deny the possibility that Dubas had the whole presser and counter offer planned out, because he's as sneaky as his fox face suggests.
    And yes, those nasty warehouse foremen would fire you for being malcontent, because workers have no rights in Canada, even less so than American workers.

  • @liguy181
    @liguy181 Рік тому

    As a Mets fan, it's easy to say Steve Cohen is the perfect example of a good owner. He invests heavily in the team (both on and off the field), he seems to care about the fans and he treats the players well. He doesn't seem to have too much of a direct hand in day-to-day operations, but he's not hands off. Really the only big mistake I think he made as owner was when he publicly called out the team for not doing well in 2021, but that's it. Oh yeah, and he's a financial criminal, but that's not related to baseball
    He is still new so we're gonna have to wait quite a bit of time before I can say he's good or bad, but he seems to be in the right direction

    • @yoholmes273
      @yoholmes273 Рік тому

      As a Mets fan.....anyone not named Wilpon is a sent straight from Heaven on high.

  • @erictremblay3044
    @erictremblay3044 Рік тому

    You are wrong Shannon, there is a BIG difference between saying it to people close to you and saying it in public. This is "public" business...

  • @StuartGreenley
    @StuartGreenley Рік тому

    I am not sure this is a great question. If you have enough money to purchase a hockey team you should be able to run the club the way you want, it's your money! If you can't play the game you still have the chance to win as an owner, Imagine having your team win the Stanley Cup!
    You have great points in the video, but there are so many variables and responsibilities to running a sports company good and bad. There is not one way to run a franchise, and I find it super frustrating that the owners must follow advice from fans that have never run a business before and have no idea of all the challenges. You need players, but if you think they are perfect you have never been in business before, they have their own goals and emotions as well. If you pay a player a contract to score goals and they don't, do they still get paid???
    I don't see a bunch of ex-players jumping up to own a team if it is so easy!

  • @joeb2151
    @joeb2151 Рік тому

    So Comcast... hmm... yeah...

  • @kiroolioneaver8532
    @kiroolioneaver8532 Рік тому

    A good sports owner doesn't view their team as purely a financial assest. They are willing to spend and invest in the team to make the team better and also want to engage fans (by keeping ticket prices reasonably priced among other things). To expect them to be nice people on the other hand is impossible I think lol As ESPN's Bomani Jones has rightfully stated; there's not a whole lotta nice ways to make a billion dollars or become a billionaire lol

  • @Jalreal
    @Jalreal Рік тому

    I would say not treating it like any other business venture and only own the team if you are invested in the sport as a whole. Using a team to make more money or buy clout off the rack so to speak isnt a sign of a good owner.

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc4178 Рік тому

    Good owners stay out of hockey operations, simple as that. Leafs like to point fingers (fans are the problem, media are the problem) when only the players and management matter.

  • @EvanEscher
    @EvanEscher Рік тому

    The best ownership group is the Green Bay Packers.

  • @phillyghost1256
    @phillyghost1256 Рік тому

    A rich man is just a poor man with money!💰lol

  • @wolfxp2
    @wolfxp2 Рік тому

    Don’t be like Dolan and you’ll be alright

  • @quivalla
    @quivalla Рік тому

    How many Gms have been hired in the NHL? its not like running a local fast food joint. Its one of the most prestigious jobs there is. You don't say anything about how you need to think things over in a season ending interview.

  • @keith96969
    @keith96969 Рік тому +3

    Look I love Kyle Dubas I defended Kyle to death however they had months to get a contract done. Auston Matthews has to have a framework of contract done or traded by July 1st. Every hour every day counts mlse couldn’t keep waiting on Dubas.Imo mlse has been kinda soft over the years they let raptors and leafs do what they want .When your franchise player is up you can’t just sit back.

  • @goldenchest2000
    @goldenchest2000 Рік тому

    Their name needs to not start with A and not end with quilini.

  • @d.c.courtney4953
    @d.c.courtney4953 Рік тому

    People give him shit, but as a Colts fan I'll take Jim Irsay over any other billionaire sports owner. He legitimately loves his team and Indianapolis. He does a ton for fans and the community in Indiana. Is he a bit goofy and eccentric? Yeah. But he's the biggest fan of the Colts and wants nothing more than their success.

  • @Mike_Poppe
    @Mike_Poppe Рік тому +2

    Dolan upsets me

    • @scoobcfc616
      @scoobcfc616 Рік тому

      Dolan is a great owner…. When he’s quiet. His henchman Sather however needs to either properly retire or kick the bucket.

    • @outsideredge
      @outsideredge Рік тому

      He seems to meddle less on the hockey side than the basketball side, but yes. You need a strong person in the President of Hockey Ops/Basketball Ops position that probably gets it in writing that he gets the final say. Otherwise the images of Dolan sulking courtside upset me big time.

  • @slidefirst694
    @slidefirst694 Рік тому

    Dubas should not have put it the way he did. He could have said he needed to assess his role in the disappointing end to the season and he owes it to fans and the management to take responsibility for his contribution to it. He made it worse by his agent asking for more dinero. He was slapping the team in the face. "This job is too demanding. I would stay if I got enough money so I could retire earlier." Bye bye, don't let the door hurt you on the way out.

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  Рік тому +4

      I find this response amusing since he didn't say that. Dubas was honest and was fired for being honest. If he wanted to slap the team in the face, he would have quit and trash talked the organization on his way out. Also, I didn't see anyone saying he should be fired until he was fired. Up until then, I was being told this was a tactic by Dubas and he wasn't actually serious about his hesitation.

    • @slidefirst694
      @slidefirst694 Рік тому

      ​@@TheHockeyGuy On Monday he says he's not sure if he wants it, on Thursday his agent asks for more $$ and he says now he wants it. He's not the chief of vending machines, he's upper management and a symbol to the public. It looks bad to me to publicly say it the way he did. It also seemed inappropriate for Shanahan to give so much detail in his press meeting.

    • @royanderson3478
      @royanderson3478 Рік тому

      ​@Slide First Nobody tells Bell 🔔 and Rodgers where to go. I did one time and they both banned me for life😢 No cable or fast internet.

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  Рік тому

      Dubas was negotiating a new deal. I can understand asking for more money because running the Leafs is a thankless job with a short shelf life. I would never want that job for any amount of money.

  • @cameroncampbell5948
    @cameroncampbell5948 Рік тому

    Can’t be much worse than the McConnell’s.. cheap and no standards

  • @brandonmartin9498
    @brandonmartin9498 Рік тому

    The complete opposite of franchesco

  • @michaelbecker2435
    @michaelbecker2435 Рік тому

    not gonna lie I'll side with owners 90% of the time. I know owners have more money. that being sad they also provide jobs (both on and off the ice) take on 60 % of the costs for said team not even factoring in costs. players want more money for a softer game, ie 70s and 80s player made so little they had to work jobs during the summer to make ends meet and even by 90s with lindros style contracts (million plus) they had alot more "legal hits" and general grittiness you don't see today.

  • @vank3780
    @vank3780 Рік тому

    Not be a boomer should sum it up.

    • @giantfactory
      @giantfactory Рік тому +3

      What does that even mean?

    • @jefjon423
      @jefjon423 Рік тому +4

      @@giantfactory he doesn't know

    • @giantfactory
      @giantfactory Рік тому

      @@jefjon423 I guess it was 'edgy' to say.

  • @Tharley87
    @Tharley87 Рік тому +11

    When ESPN does the ultimate franchise ranks, Vinik is always at or near the top for all major sports. The man can do no wrong in Tampa, has invested in the team, the community, and clearly has a passion for both.

  • @mason698
    @mason698 Рік тому +12

    During Veterans Night in 2021 I got the honor to sit next to Tom Stillman in the owners booth. We were playing nashville, and Binner made a fantastic save and I said "Thank God you paid him" and the dude laughed and said "He won us something this city has always dreamed of." This Blues team really changed under him and doug

    • @FrankieHresko
      @FrankieHresko Рік тому

      Stillman is a legend! Has to be the nicest owner in nhl!

    • @mason698
      @mason698 Рік тому +1

      @@FrankieHresko it was definitely an honor to meet him, even if it was for an upsetting reason, but him and Chris Zimmerman really do love this team and has a connection w the boys and it’s great to be apart of this blues culture

    • @FrankieHresko
      @FrankieHresko Рік тому

      @@mason698 100%! Blues and the whole community are in good hands 💪👌👍

  • @rmgagnon6283
    @rmgagnon6283 Рік тому +3

    I think a good successful owner allmost has to have there hands in other business, looking at Detroit with the llitch Family owning the Wings Little Caesar Piza, Detroit Tigers , Little Caesars Arena and building a district around the arena, parking garage hotels bars and shopping. Even offering a a bus in to Windsor as part of it,
    I think more citys need owners to do the same thing

  • @scott4259
    @scott4259 Рік тому +3

    Mario Lemiux's ownership of Pittsburg doesn't get enough love.

  • @elosogonzalez8739
    @elosogonzalez8739 Рік тому +1

    An owner must have respect for the fan! Fans pay their hard earned dollars to purchase a seat and to be disrespected or Blown off is unacceptable! Mararello and Gutierrez need to go IF there's any hope of keeping the Coyotes in Arizona! HOCKEY WORKS IN ARIZONA AND GLENDALE IF THE OWNERS HAD AN OUNCE OF RESPECT FOR THEIR FANS!

  • @269productions
    @269productions Рік тому +1

    90s hockey was much more "lark" owners and boy was that a much better time to be a fan. This non stop corporate crap and arena naming is just annoying

  • @JoelElRican
    @JoelElRican Рік тому +1

    As a Tampa fan, Jeff Vinik is the standard all owners should live up to.

  • @waverod9275
    @waverod9275 Рік тому +2

    With a group, it's not necessarily a matter of strength in numbers. It absolutely matters how they work together (exhibit A: Atlanta Thrashers).

  • @kieranperreaultdit-morin9262
    @kieranperreaultdit-morin9262 Рік тому +1

    Rule number 1. Don’t be Eddie Livingstone

  • @clydeblair9622
    @clydeblair9622 Рік тому +1

    The Leafs have the wrong ownership.

  • @AlexAnteroLammikko
    @AlexAnteroLammikko Рік тому +1

    I don't know about the opening point about Dubas. I think for certain positions you want people who are completely sold on the job and want to be there. Especially in those markets, especially at those salaries.
    Its completely unreasonable to expect a McDonalds employee to want to stick around every day. But the CEO of McDonalds? If he or she was like "you know, im not 100% sure burgers are a great business", and said it to the media?
    So I think it is different in that sense.
    Not saying Dubas should have been fired but just different view on the comparison.

  • @Jersh.
    @Jersh. Рік тому

    Shannon. Whatever job you’ve had where you can express your feelings about how much you do or don’t want do it *CANNOT* compare to being the GM of an NHL team, much less of the GD Maple Leafs. You can complain as much as you want when you’re on an hourly wage. You don’t have the right perspective on this issue.

  • @alanfox691
    @alanfox691 Рік тому

    Alan Shields
    Hamilton
    South Lanarkshire
    Scotland.
    I personally think Consortiums
    ( Ownership groups ) are for the most part highly problematic if you look at
    when Liverpool F.C where owned buy Hicks &
    George Gillett such owner often come in with bold brash statements of intent but in reality nothing ends up coming out of them that is positive they talk a good game but often can walk the walk to go with all the big bould brash statements they come out with when they fist take over
    Hicks & Gillett where all full of talk about this amazing football stadium they where going to build how it was going to be this & that but then they had a fundamental disagreement & would not even talk to each other directly .
    I tuse Liverpool F.C because that leads me directly to my next point I believe
    John Henry & his F.S.G. how also now own The Penguins to be the best owners in modern sports a team ( club as we say in Europe) could possibly have.
    Is John Henry & F.S.G. all good no they will put up ticket prices garrenteed but they will also back the team on the pitch , field or Ice 100% financially.
    The other problem with
    John Henry & F.S.G. they will own a team for a couple of seasons but if they think they are having to spend beyond expectation they will up the team or club up for sale as is the case with Liverpool.
    I believe the days of owners staying owners for decades are coming to an end globally
    I think modern owners look at such a business as an investment for a decade at most a way of building up there business reputation & portfolio with an ame to make mega money in some other kind of business further down the road all so it helps them wine & dine future business contacts it means they can show off look at me I am not special look at what I own is this not impressive to you.
    So I think John Henry
    & F.S.G for the most part do a good job of being owners be it
    Liverpool F.C , Boston Red Sox or Pittsburgh Penguins.
    I have seen many owners that are terrible & many how have made horrific mistakes & I mean absolutely horrific mistakes buy thinking they can tuch the stars with a team ( club ) only for it to destroy
    the team completely & need to start the team club from scratch
    as in Glasgow Rangers F.C.
    In terms of the N.H.L
    I think the worst township had been that of Eugene Melnyk
    Of The Sens in my view.
    Eugene Melnyk R.I.P.
    I have seen owners come in
    & assert strip completely
    to the point the team ( club ) is a shadow of the potential that
    team ( club ) could be
    Newcastle United for example.
    I hope we dont see
    Arabic Sovereign wealth funds take ownership of any teams in North America like we are seeing in Europe that is a very negative look for any sports teams or clubs.
    You had sead about my team
    Pittsburgh Steelers been a fan since 1996.
    I would never criticise
    The Rooney family but
    I dont believe
    Art Rooney II is as not as hands on as he should be unlike Art Rooney I & Dan Rooney they definitely had munch more passion for My Steelers than Art Rooney II
    dose he is not at as many games as he should be I font feel like My Steelers are a priority for him personally
    I believe that is a big part of what is wrong with the franchise & I see there is a hell of a lot wrong since
    Art Rooney II took over from
    Dan RooneyArt Rooney II has just let things slide & slide.
    I would say M.L.B. is jam packed with absolutely terrible owner how spend as little as possible & look for free agents
    in terms of players ones they can move of for big money buy low move on for a high price
    Robert Nuttting I am looking at you.
    I think over all
    The N.F.L , N.H.L & N.B.A.
    has a lot of good owners.
    I think the best owner
    in sports history was
    Lamar Hunt & he seems to have passed his passion for team sports on to his son
    Lamar Hunt Jr.
    I think someone
    like Jerry Jones of
    The Dallas Cowboys is far to hands on & has created a lot of problems the older he gets the worse choices he makes for The Cowboys.
    But Consortiums
    ( Ownership groups)
    are always truble in the making.
    Keep Safe.

  • @CruzerTre
    @CruzerTre Рік тому

    Ryan Reynolds! Owning a sports team isn’t about making money you already have more than enough money. You do it because you love the sport and want to be the best.(Stolen from Ted Lasso). You can’t be too cheap like the Oakland Athletics but also buying everything like the New York Yankees can only get you so far. Fine combination of both.

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 Рік тому

    As an owner, you have to realize that you’re not a hockey expert. You’re a fan. You just need to have deep pockets, hire the right people and let them do their jobs. And if the results aren’t there, you have to act and fire those people promptly before they’re able to do long term damage. The problem with the Canucks is that we’ve got people who don’t know anything about the day to day operations of a hockey club meddling and interfering with those who do. It’s like if Tony Khan thought he could book wrestling without having an experienced Booker on the payroll. Oh wait….

  • @JDrevolver66
    @JDrevolver66 Рік тому

    An owner at either extreme (only owning as business thing with no knowledge of game/fans' emotional investment, or being big ego, controlling, and irrationally reactive) = the conflict of interest with fans, and the odds of disaster, are high. Group ownership risks the old 'the IQ of a committee is that of its dumbest member divided by the number of people on the committee" problem. A moderate person(s) with a positive-sum mindset for their investment in team and community is ideal.

  • @canesfan1526
    @canesfan1526 Рік тому

    Everyone has their opinion on Tom but, he’s done everything needed to turn the hurricanes around. He’s spending to the cap, investing in quality marketing and building a consistent competitive environment.
    Karmanos was such a scumbag and let the product essentially die.
    No way we see an outdoor game or brand new practice rink under karmanos.
    The marketing side with stronger partnerships, naming rights to parts of the arena, our own beer etc, all things Tom has developed.
    In just 5 years this teams at a new peak in every aspect of the business.

  • @iLightSoundGeometry
    @iLightSoundGeometry Рік тому

    this is easy, the ability to get bad for 2-3 years and build around a true #1 D man and pivot .. im talking top 5 at least one of them and not a bust ..blues ownership only wants to be in playoffs each year to profit and not really worrying about a cup

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 Рік тому

    When you own a car, you can let the mechanics do the job and fix and maintain the car, or you can do it yourself and make a mess of it for most of the people who knows nothing about how a car works. Those people may have been making more money a mechanic can dream of for their entire life, doesn't make them an expert in fixing a car.

  • @murrethmedia
    @murrethmedia Рік тому

    To my mind Robert Kraft is the best owner in sports.

  • @George-wr9qw
    @George-wr9qw Рік тому +1

    I've been pretty impressed with the NJ Devil's ownership, it would have been so easy to be forced to sell/move or be swallowed whole when you're around the extremely major markets of the NY Rangers, NY Islanders, and the Flyers. But not only have they remained competitive and have a established marketed brand but was a successful team with 3 cups, and now is currently on a very optimistic upswing.

    • @yoholmes273
      @yoholmes273 Рік тому +3

      I'm a NJ diehard and have been my whole life.
      When brining up NJs ownership, I always like to bring up one of my heroes, a mentor, and one hell of a model American, NJs original owner Dr. John McMullen.
      Dr. John was a former WW2 vet and was a USS Indianapolis survivor. Dr. John was a minority owner of the Yankees and former owner of The Houston Astros ( back when Yogi was managing .)
      Without , Dr. John , there is no NJ Devils. He bought the team as The Colorado Rockies and solely because of his resolve , The NJ Devils even exist.
      He stuck through the lean years and even resisted many calls to move the team. (Many believed if NJ didn't win in 1995 the team would've relocated to Nashville)
      Dr. John won 2 Cups as sole owner and during the 3rd Cup run sold the team George Steinbrenner & the then Yankees/Nets corporation.
      That is where things in NJ get fuzzy with some terrible ownership groups.
      I will say, the current owner Mr Harris of Harris/Blitzer group who owns the team today is a real deal owner. I've met him & he is real classy, down to Earth man. He is a Billionaire who doesn't take his "side jobs" as NJ Devils & Philadelphia 76ers owners as a side job.
      Harris is dedicated to making his teams winners and the proof is in the pudding.
      Mr. Harris , in fact, just bought the lowly Commanders of the NFL (formerly Washington Redskins).
      Personally, this is the best thing to happen to the NFL & DC in a long time.
      Speaking of terrible owners, out goes Dan "the cancer" Synder & in comes the Harris/Blitzer group.
      What a huge upgrade for the fans for the NFL of for fans of DC football.

  • @gregofthelake
    @gregofthelake Рік тому +1

    When Tom Hicks owned the Stars (and Texas Rangers), they won the Stanley Cup in spite of him. He was only interested in making money and didn't care one bit about how the team performed. He wasn't ridiculous about cutting expenses and maximizing profit, he just didn't care about the on ice performance. It was another business venture and all he looked at were the financial statements. Nobody cried when he sold the team.

    • @dax138
      @dax138 Рік тому

      the end of the hicks era was really hard on the stars and the fans. One thing i really liked was those $15 game tickets, i went to almost every game and learned one of the most important lessons in life.. How to lose and be ok . lmao

  • @FINsoininen
    @FINsoininen Рік тому

    John Spano is the greatest owner of all time🐐